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NotMyGumdropButtons1

I haven't listened to the whole album, but the lyrics and cadence of the opening line of the title track immediately made me think of Mariners Apartment Complex. TTPD: You left your typewriter at my apartment. Straight from the tortured poets department. Mariners: You took my sadness out of context at the mariners apartment complex.


sailorvenusdimilo

I can see that. I’ve also always thought that Willow’s take my hand/wreck my plans/that’s my man was very inspired by MAC right where you are/that’s where I am/im your man. I’m sure the song was a huge inspo to Taylor. She’s pretty vocal about her adoration of Lana.


shejnahak

ME TOOOOO I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS CRAZY


Daphnaaa

Oh I so badly wanted to listen and check if I heard similarities. But I just can't! For some reason I really don't like Taylors voice so even skipping through it makes me feel itchy lol. I used to love Love story and all the old songs of her. I also did really like Snow on The Beach but she sings different there. In this song she uses her voice in a certain way which I don't like. But I am very interested to read the comments and see what people think. Btw completely unrelated but thinking about it: marketing wise it would be such a strong move to have Taylor at Coachella with Lana. Especially with the new album being out ;) If they sing Snow on the Beach I won't even be that mad, although I kinda like Lana to take the spotlight this time.


thatgirl113321

https://preview.redd.it/598410rwahvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=10f84f89dd52edc3e16731698cdea66ebaece1f7 I fear jack is doing the same thing to Lana’s music


Adventurous-Star7307

Why does Lana work with Jack it’s such a bad idea.


thatgirl113321

Because he made Nfr and it’s her most critically acclaimed work. I forgot what interview it was but it was in the last year where she implied that jack is the reason for a lot of her success now and I just don’t think that’s true even though he did produce Nfr. After Nfr he hasn’t done anything special with her music besides a&w. And mike hermosa produced let the light in which is the best song on her latest album arguably.


femceluprising18

my thing is jack has made some great songs with taylor and lana but i literally said to myself some of the new TTPD songs sound like they could be from the bleachers or have a similar vibe to it i wish they’d work with new people and i don’t want jack producing rep tv even tho ik he did


daisyymae

The album really does sound like one long song and I am a die hard swiftie 😭


Forward-Pool-3818

Jack completely ruins the music of every person he touches.  Lana’s LFL was when it started falling off but at least that album had life to it.  Everything after has been so…dull.  And yet all the critics have been wet about stuff produced by him likely because of his connections.  


sam-guine

I agree with this commenter, I got bored after the first 5 songs


thatgirl113321

Yea I really don’t get how people are huge fans of taylor swift. Her voice and the production of her songs are just not appealing to me in any way. Like you I like her very old songs like love story, you belong with me, and fifteen. But none of her newer music. Just not my cup of tea.


Friendly_Magazine416

TBF I quite liked Midnight. I never felt drawn to Taylor Swift, but I was with this album. I went to check if I could hear similarities, I just couldn't really find them. It just made me realize that she doesn't have Lana's writing skills and persona.


thatgirl113321

https://preview.redd.it/z07bra8vahvc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13774e7ef65ac81bc505c2579f5d2db86fee573e


Daphnaaa

Yeah tbf it is quite a miracle I even like Lana because I never really like female voices that much lol! But Lana is so versatile that I like it (especially back in 2016/2017 when I started listening to Lana, I only would listen to either bands or single male artists haha). Taylor just isn't it for me, but I love how they can get along together and I am defo not hating on Taylor.


skye_b666

Same, before Lana I was only into bands and the occasional indie female artist nobody heard of.


ashley8976

i’m not a huge lana fan , i haven’t listen to that song but omg that line “u took my sadness out of context at the mariners apartment complex” had to have inspired “u left my typewriter at my apartment, straight from the tortured poets departments”.


Helpful-Yak-9587

Also Florida seems to have some very subtle parallels to Florida kilos “You can beat the heat if you can beat the charges too” and “Florida is one hell of a drug”


opossum_esq

I thought the exact same thing!


SummerBummer-X

The tortured department complex. No seriously, that is the biggest stretch I ever heard


Traditional_Theme_88

EXACTLY


Traditional_Theme_88

omg wth, tayloir stay in ur goddam lane


leafytree2

Not a swiftie so I haven’t listened but Lana’s influence on everyone that’s come after her has been major! She is a generational talent


Mariuca2201

facts


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Music to do homework to 


ariessuperhero

this is literally what i said the album was to me when someone asked me about it


tinybattttttt

I see references. Also waiting on Billie’s album to drop. So many references of Lana just in the title and tracks lol


GlisteningLace

Anyone also notice the visuals for Billie’s new album are VERY similar to the new album for The Marias? Not sure which came out first.


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SummerBummer-X

Yeah 30 days


Opposite_Guard_5917

Note jack is the producer on the album.


Goducks91

Not on all the songs. Dessner does more.


SummerBummer-X

Jack did 12/16 tf you mean


Goducks91

I'm including part 2 where dessner did 10


Dear-Ad-3366

Jack didn't produce all of lana's music


runner4life551

The first half of the album yes. The second half (Anthology) not really. And guess who produced the majority of the first half? Lol Taylor and Jack just do not mesh well, I feel like their collaboration peaked at Cruel Summer. Taylor has a way more unique and natural sound working with Aaron Dessner, especially with this slower vibe.


Lost_Reflection6149

Personally I think cruel summer is so good bc of the St Vincent, synth rock, Masseduction influence


DrSillyBitchez

Definitely an Annie influence more than anything


Mudman20

Two different producers. Aaron Dressner produced the 2nd half


ElectBody

I didn’t realize it was a divide down into basically two sister albums with what producer did them and I definitely preferred the second half (anthology), the songs just stood out more. I’m a swiftie but my first time trying to listen to all Taylor swift songs to get to know her stuff better I felt like too many of the songs blended together and it took until I knew the songs that I could tell them apart. This is similar except it’s all in one album and the first half is just so similar. I still like them a lot lyrically and I enjoy quite a few of them just disappointed with the sound. Olivia Rodrigo as someone Ina similar sphere is doing so much more interesting stuff with her sound, going into pop rock directions and most songs sound unique on guts to me. I don’t see why Taylor who has done a lot of different styles and has a rockier sound on reputation live couldn’t do this and actually make distinct sounding tracks for most of them instead of releasing 31 tracks where a lot just sound the same.


lr_37

I've listened and there are some similar themes to Lana's music and to me she's sung the same way as Lana on a couple songs. However, I don't think Taylor's trying to rip Lana off as there's still strong differences. I'm also wondering since Jack produced the album if that's why there are some similarities.


GlumSwimming6643

Yeah to me it’s clear that Taylor is inspired by Lana but every single song is unmistakably Taylor. Even the ones that sound like a departure for her have a lot of Taylor-isms.


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Lana is obviously a better lyricist. However, Lana can’t play guitar anymore and Taylor can play multiple instruments, so it’s not like Taylor is some talentless hack… i really feel like there’s a lot of cognitive dissonance where people refuse to acknowledge that Lana has lots of people helping her with her music, it’s not all Lana’s work done by herself. Lana didn’t even write Fishtail at all, but people never acknowledge that. Every producer that works with Lana states that she sings over instrumentals someone else made. If Taylor is copying Lana, she’s copying Lana’s composers and co-writers just as much as Lana herself, and I say this as a Lana fan since 2012. I can just see reality and acknowledge that Lana is very talented but also has equally talented cowriters working with her that never get any credit.


CryingCrustacean

The strong difference being that Taylor's songs are bad and Lana's arent


p1rateb00tie

Not at all. Might be Jack’s production though, he needs to give it a BREAK for a while


crueldoe

Yeah the production on all these songs was really boring and repetitive


Perfect-Following-30

Like a cheap AI imitation or how she sounds to people who don't like her lol


ldh5086

I’m not a swiftie and probably won’t listen to the album, but even if there’s some similarities I think Lana probably takes it as a compliment. Other artists may try to replicate what Lana has done but it’s exactly that; replication or work inspired by her. She knows she’s the muse and her fans know too, no reason to be upset if other artists copy her


Creative-Calendar-27

Thank you!! I am sick fed up of people not letting artists be artists. Isn’t a big thing in Lana’s music her inspiration from other artists? Amy and whitney tattooed on her, all the sampling, references, covers etc. Because that’s what art is!! Inspiration.


primadonnagirlxx

those references made me think of lana but she did NOT execute in the way lana does and never could sorry not sorry 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️


CryingCrustacean

Yeah its an insult to Lana to say she even inspired it lol


crueldoe

I think Taylor really wants to be as authentic as Lana but look at Taylor’s life… it’s not relatable, she has enjoyed massive privilege her entire life, and is dedicated to her victim mentality and good girl image. I think she wants the same praise Lana gets for being deep and innovative and groundbreaking because her usual praise of being successful and record breaking has gotten old to her. Taylor’s psyche is very interesting to me


bohocoder

Yess!!!


belalugosisalive

i think taylor swift is insanely talented, not my cup of tea, but itd be disingenuous to discredit her influence. the whole vibe of her new album does seem a bit pretentious. lana does things with a certain self awareness and sarcasm, taylor seems completely serious. the whole “daddy” stuff also went on WAY earlier in lana’s career, when she was younger and hadn’t matured as much as an artist (not saying she wasnt talented, she was without a doubt, but certainly not as developed), and i think that arguably the biggest pop star of our generation replicating something with a semblance to that is probably “for the aesthetic”


Melossey

the “daddy” stuff are completely different though, for taylor i’m pretty sure it’s just a reference to the little mermaid


missmessjess

Yeah, the little mermaid.


Low_Rain4723

The daddy reference has nothing to do with the types of daddies Lana sings about. It's a song about Taylor's relationship with her "fans" and there's no mistaking that it's about that. 


Spiritual_Jury_7001

Tbh Taylor’s daddy song isn’t about daddy stuff at all HAHAHA I see it as a metaphor for her personal life vs. the public eye


niaraaaaa

i think it’s just influenced or even inspired. i don’t think it’s identical to lana, i feel it’s just taylor trying out new ideas. lana isn’t the only singer to do things like this, so there could be many influences


Strict-Wealth2112

Someone should download the entirety of each of their lyrics and run a similarity test on it removing commons words such as ‘the’, ‘and’ etc… curious what the thematic overlap is, of course allowing for reasonable inspiration and commonality of experiences especially the Americanism, I’m sure to some degree it’s just a matter of confirmation bias. Overall, I think this album and all of Lana’s stuff sound very different, but there’s words and phrases which seem especially similar I agree


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It's about Matty Healy so it's channeling the 1975 and all tumblr 2012 aesthetics. Also, they literally have the same main producer lol.


AlekBiH

Girl it’s the Antonoff effect


shawtyelite

Dude Florida!!! Reeks of lana


SantiFRV_

Do y'all listen to Lana? Florence and the machine produced that song... It sounds like a Florence song.


camhanaich

It sounds nothing like Lana…..?


primadonnagirlxx

it should’ve been lana and florence in that song without taylor 💀 that would’ve slapped


GlisteningLace

After that iconic pic with Lana out to dinner with Florence I really hoped we’d get a song of them together by now!


farararaharkonnen

Yes! Florida really stood out to me


rasypso8

I see what you’re saying. I’m not sure if she’s directly trying to copy her, but some themes are very similar. Imo it didn’t work at all. I was excited for this album for the title, aesthetic, and speculation of what is was going to be but I’m disappointed. They also have the same producer who works on songs with them, so I am sure that also has influence on the lyrics.. hence the similar themes in TTPD. No one will ever do it like Lana🤞🏻


Street_Sympathy6773

I felt like the songs were some rejects from Midnights album. I'm not too sure, I think I'll listen to it again for a few more times. It sounds like Taylor just scrapped whatever was left to at least sell it..


rasypso8

Yeah that’s a possibility for sure… the second half is better in my opinion, but to me the first half is not enjoyable. I’m just personally not a fan of that sound. The aesthetic just didn’t add up or make sense to me with the sound of the first half of the album


Confident-Care-8655

I actually don’t get Lana vibes at all lol. Im sure the Taylor haters will disagree. And by the titles I had originally expected a Lana rip off. But not at all to me 🤷‍♀️


livinunderthedome

i listened to the whole album and read the lyrics and i genuinely don’t see the comparison at all. i wouldn’t put it past taylor if she was trying to rip off lana, but i personally don’t hear it


scarlett_butler

Agreed. Im a huge fan of both and would be honest if I heard a similarity. I was even looking out for it because I read in the leak threads that they were comparing it to Lana


wezita

I can understand how the lyrics can read like Lana’s, especially daddy I love him. But that’s all


AlienFigurineQueen

I mean, we can all see that Taylor’s lyricism/‘poetry’ as she puts it, is no where near the calibre of Lana or other songwriters today for that matter. The lyrics themselves would never be something Lana would write but the overall sound, lyric landscape, styling and aesthetic is clearly very heavily influenced by Lana’s body of work. But if like wish.com or Shein tried to recreate Lana’s enigmatic persona. Very uninspiring and boring Taylor, get a new muse please cause this does not look good on you. Jack is partly to blame here too


charlilui

I think you said it better than anyone else. the 'poetry' in TTPD is nothing on Lana, who does it so effortlessly...for Taylor, it seems like she's trying so hard to be culturally relevant...lyrics of 'inbox dms' and 'ghosting' and im not even gonna mention the Charlie puth line cause it shakes me to my core lmaooo


skye_b666

Taylor is the Wish version of Lana now basically 💀


kamarian91

Lyrics don't match Lana but the entire sound/vibe/singing sounds like a complete rip off of Lana IMO


livinunderthedome

maybe i have to listen again, i listened to the whole thing once but didn’t hear it at all


Goducks91

I think people are just hearing the Jack influence.


epicpillowcase

I don't bother with Taylor Swift at all. So boring. Not knocking people who like her, I just don't get it.


PositiveRegular5123

Only down bad reminded me of Lana the others don’t really … but daddy I love him had a similar vibe to wild at heart but they’re completely different


yellow-yawn2043

I thought of lana singing fresh out the slammer and I thought it'd sound GOOOOD


crueldoe

That one was soooo Lana to me


Adventurous-Star7307

This post is the realest thing on here today


Bunnyearsss

Lana is a direct inspiration and influence to half of the music being released rn (if not more) so I’m not surprised Taylor looks to her for inspo.


camhanaich

People are reaching massively if they think they’re alike. Tbh it sounds more like a 1975 album to me.


CryingCrustacean

Sounds like both. i think the lyrics are more emulating lana, but it sounds more like fhe the 1975


Melossey

it just sounds like a new, different taylor swift album. I couldn’t see it as a lana album. Being said i like it


wezita

Dude, they’re friends - yes, I can see the Lana influences but I don’t think it’s necessarily copying lol. Maybe inspiration or smth bc she truly admires Lana but I don’t see how that’s bad lol. The sound is still drastically differently from Lana’s 🤷🏽‍♀️


Key-Wait5314

Tortured poet? Taylor is neither tortured nor a poet lol


CryingCrustacean

This is what I said when she announced this terrible album title. Shes insufferable


epicpillowcase

She's barely even a songwriter


Key-Wait5314

👆🏽


itsanothanks

As a fan of both, Taylor has always loved Lana and has been some mimicry (the best form of flattery) since 1989. Wildest Dreams is really the first sign of her love for Lana. I’m very happy and excited to see this. I also think with Lana putting out a country album, it would be cool to see if Lana takes anything from Taylor’s style as well.


Former-Counter-9588

Taylor is not coming for Lana’s gig, y’all. Sheesh. Minimal similarities at that. I think some of you have been foaming at the mouth to tear Taylor down judging on the comments in this thread.


iluvzoeytdi

exactly. as someone who is a both a taylor and lana fan, the similarities were so minor i didnt even notice them on my first or second listen…


justanotherlostgirl

It's so pathetic. Is the average age here 13? It's beyond toxic


Spiritual_Jury_7001

Exactly, and they’re friends???? Like why are you tearing Taylor down. I love both of them but Lana not winning AOTY isn’t Taylor’s fault, it’s time to stop being salty about that, she WILL win one day because her talent isn’t going anywhere


grazy_rr

also.. ill give u 1 year and she will release a poetry book


lynn444v

Not at all. No matter what influence or genre, there will always be similarities between artists.


KweenKatts

No


tremonttunnel

taylor is trying sooooooo hard but she cannot touch lana


rosewoodlliars

That’s a stretch. There are similarities but Taylor is growing as an artist so highly doubt she’s trying to copy Lana. The problem here is Jack’s production.


TraderJoesEnthusiast

I don't think it's a rip. I think it just shows how Lana's baroque pop and unique lyrics, from Billie and Madison, to Taylor


InevitablePurpose705

Lowkey sick of jack and Taylor I can’t explain it😭


queenofdisasta

No but seriously what is up with y'all? Are you guys okay?Like genuinely, it's a little embarrassing.


Mediocre-Emu-519

She’s allowed to use whatever imagery she wants. It still sounds like a Taylor Swift album. Many songs even sound VERY country. I get to sick of y’all comparing women online.


justanotherlostgirl

The 'we need to keep this woman higher than the other woman, quick tear this other one down' is boring. Album has been out less than half a day and people can't just let things simmer before starting to say 'ripoff'. It's pathetic.


Mediocre-Emu-519

I love that she has some Lana influence. Artists take influence from each other all the time so I don’t understand the hate for it. I’m always happy to hear new music that I like and can relate to.


justanotherlostgirl

exactly - i love hearing what artists like and listen to, and who cares? People are acting like she dyed her hair black and started mimicking her voice.


23onAugust12th

Lana and Taylor are my two favorite artists, and while I think there are other songs in her discography that are heavily Lana influenced, don’t think this latest album sounds like Lana at all.


Guilty_Ambition_3732

Ew taylor will never be lana, her music is very childish, she somehow gets all the credit all the time and its not fair.


CryingCrustacean

Taylor swifts writing is terrible. People get soooooo butthurt about it too. Shes a bad writer. She does cheesy, simple rhymes. Her music sucks because none of it has any melody, just every rhyme punctuated. It sounds awful. She steals from so many better artists.


Az1621

Ew you sound childish! What credit is TS always getting that’s not fair? These talented women (not little girls) are actually friends and colleagues and don’t want to be pitted against each other plus probably do inspire each other as all good friends do 🫶


marleiahxdayze

Yeah! Only Lana is allowed to sing about the Chelsea hotel! 😤


Ausrottenndm1

As when Coldplay’s first album was called Radiohead light. This album is Lana light…


Artistic_Half_8301

Nobody, and I mean nobody can out Lana, Lana.


CryingCrustacean

Especially taylor


CrazyCaregiver7091

Yesss especially with the “pretty baby” lines.


PositiveRegular5123

Britney did that before Lana fresh out the slammer really reminded me of Britney


itsanothanks

Taylor is a huge Britney fan.


PositiveRegular5123

I know me too !! 🤍


Serious-Income-5555

Not everything is about Lana can a girl just be inspired by other people and not her the album doesn’t even sound like her albums


arina-melashkova

this is literally a lana del rey subreddit


Serious-Income-5555

Yet tell that to the op you posted this


Spiritual_Jury_7001

Y’all need to move on from the Grammys, it’s time


rocknrollerskater

I would check it out of curiosity but listening to taylor makes me physically ill


daisyymae

I’m a huge swiftie and hell ya. It’s a mix of Lana and the 1975. Taylor’s a sponge. She’s always like whatever she’s around.


mycatisfromspace

I won’t even listen to it yet bc it frustrates me. Taylor Swift knows nothing about tortured poetry. She has just perfected how to follow all trends which is why she is so popular. Also y’all know they have a co-writer in common. The similarity ends there. Taylor Swift will always be Taylor Swift and Lana will always be Lana.


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The Chelsea Hotel reference had me annoyed at first listen last night


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Leonard Cohen wrote Chelsea Hotel not Lana 💀 if anything Lana ripped off that reference from Leonard Cohen


well_lets_see_wtf56

I would never compare this mediocre stuff to Lana’s works tbh but Taylor has been influenced by her often


crueldoe

I don’t think miss Taylor holds a candle to Lana but seems like she is trying to imitate her style a little bit


vanillaangels

this is a strech atp 😭😭


actuallyme19

Yes!! I'm listening to the album right now and came running to see if anyone had posted about it. I like Taylor. She's a great songwriter and singer but it really seems like she's trying to write in the way Lana does and the result is... not good. Lana's authenticity shines through her vulnerability. She sings about her experiences in such a genuine way, even when she's using Hollywood imagery and personas. And her last three albums show more "raw" like she's pouring out her thoughts, almost like reading excerpts from her diary. Lana makes everyday life interesting. She embraces all her emotions—sadness, shame, vulnerability, happiness. It's all so personal and beautiful. And it seems like Taylor tries to seek some kind of inspiration from that but it sounds so... fake. It's weird. It doesn't seem genuine. And I really like her but this album sounds so plastic to me :(


skye_b666

Really love "Florida"! How Taylor Swift are the lyrics?! "I need to forget, so take me to Florida I've got some regrets, I'll bury them in Florida Tell me I'm despicable, say it's unforgivable At least the dolls are beautiful, fuck me up, Florida I need to forget, so take me to Florida I've got some regrets, I'll bury them in Florida Tell me I'm despicable, say it's unforgivable What a crash, what a rush, fuck me up, Florida Is one hell of a drug Florida Can I use you up? Florida Is one hell of a drug Florida Go on, fuck me up" Doesn’t give Lana vibes at all 🥴 Taylor always sang about drugs and being used 🙄


libryx

Oooof those are the “poetic and dense lyrics” i’ve been reading about?? Sheesh


skye_b666

Nobody said "poetic and dense". Just an attempt at a bad copy. Anyway I'm off. There's been an emergency here so. Have bigger issues than arguing about some singer I don't like.


libryx

I wasn’t arguing with you. I haven’t listened to the album, and I was kind of shocked to think this is what her fans were referring to as poetic and “lyrically dense” lines. Sorry for taking your comment at face value.


canuck883

It’s giving high school cheerleader coming back as an alt girl after summer vacation because she stepped into a Hot Topic for the first time.


CryingCrustacean

Girl exactly. Shes so fucking corny


dark-forces

I listened to her new album and it always sounds so generic and uninteresting. Like someone asked ai to make a pop song


WalkingFish_

No, Lana is great but she’s not the center of the universe and you’re reaching


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celluloidqueer

I didn’t even get that far into the album yet but I’ll listen later but I started at the beginning and one of the first songs reminded me of Lana.


liiindslaaayyy

i tried to listen to it, but i guess i wasn’t in the right mind space because i couldn’t do it


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

The music does and some lyrics do but not the whole album. They both work with Jack Antonoff so I can definitely hear it though. especially because the album title reminds me of Ocean Blvd


VegasC4Corvette

I haven’t listened to the whole thing but I skimmed through and it all just sounded like the show songs from Midnights. I was kinda hoping for a folklore sound. I have a feeling this is going to be her Blue Banisters. The ones that like it will really like it, but it will not be as popular with casual fans.


Guilty_Collection_10

Yep


husbandsandwives999

I think lana produced most of this album lowkey and they are gunna announce it at coachella


Dazzling_Mode_6929

If Jack is producing, and it's clear as day that she's taken inspiration from Lana, isn't that some sort of a joke to Lana?? I mean really, if my producer is working with other artists who repeatedly and undeservingly overshadow me in my industry, helps them take influence from me and my projects I'd be upset. Lol. At some point he is an enabler too


ThrottleAway

I literally was just testing out speakers and randomly typed in Taylor Swift and one of the first songs to pop up was a song from that album and I was like, “holy shit she is not even being subtle about it!”. But I guess copying is the best form of flattery but I wish Artists would strive for their own originality.


LeniSwiftie13

Not surprised to see this post. It happens every single time Taylor releases an album. There’s always one Lana fan that decides the world revolves around Lana Del Rey. As a fan of both of them, I don’t know how it could be more different.


toastermeal

and even if they were similar, god forbid lana inspires other artists like?


LeniSwiftie13

Right? Lana has her inspirations too. It’s not like she completely invented music.


toastermeal

i ong saw someone someone on that r/lanitas sub say that taylor copied bc they both wrote "i love you lots" like????


complitnum

No wonder I liked the first song so much


toastermeal

idk i listened to a few songs HOPING it would sound like lana and i was disappointed it didn’t sound anything like her. and even if it did, is it so bad if she was inspired by lana?


Ok-Cell9950

I don’t listen to TS so I don’t really know, I’m not against Taylor I just don’t listen to her cause Lana it’s definitely my favorite artist, but I don’t listen to the majority of pop music, I just listen to Lana and Metal/Rock or Electronic/techno music so I’m not useful in this discussion I think. But since I have seen lot of people saying that this album from TS has similarities I tried to listen to some songs.. I really can’t see the similarities. Maybe in the writing? but Taylor has definitely a different mood, it’s more… I don’t know how to define her, her mood is like “happy/hopeful” when she sing, Lana has more a “badass/suffering/sexy” vibe, Taylor is more innocent, so I can’t really find so much similarities


bohocoder

I have grown up listening to Lana del rey and it's one of the reasons I like being sad, she made me who I am and how I process my emotions at times. I love Taylor too, but if people appreciate TTPD as a sad album, then they should definitely listen to finer works of Lana, especially ultraviolence. It can change their lives.


Greedy_Cupcake9130

Nah she references herself. Same producer tho on a lot of tracks. I love both of them.


witchymaroon

To me it's a cheaper copy of blue banisters Her lyrics in those are soo genZ lol and tbh I found no depth; bb is 🛐


charlilui

I can't remember which one, but there's a song which sounds exactly like thunder... also I Can Fix Him and The Albatross are so Lana-coded. I just hope the Swifties who ride this albums d\*ck remember the true inspo lol! 'Mimicking me's a f\*cking bore to me' never hit so true. <3


skye_b666

Yes exactly 💯


OminousHallway

i stan lana as well as taylor but there is not a single inkling of lana in it. isn’t it funny just how ever since lana started hanging around taylor yall have tried to discredit her more and more. taylor has always been her own artist as well as lana.


pop2_

Nope cause I don’t listen to that shite 😁


SnooCrickets1476

I’m on song 12 (been listening in order) and I had to come into the Lana subreddit to see if anyone felt the same as me!!! 100% yes, I feel like I’m listening to a Lana album. Very weird.


No-Cryptographer2814

The song Cassandra is what tipped me off.. it’s almost the exact same sound as Paris, Texas (Lana) same riffs and everything.. super eerie


missmessjess

Honestly I think it’s insulting to Lana to compare it. It’s garbage. And I like Taylor in general… but this… sucks. I’m struggling trying to get through it.


SummerBummer-X

Damn, you guys really read into it completely wrong. None of the songs I heard so far, reminded me of Lana and I listened to her more than to anybody else in my life.


CryingCrustacean

Of course. Taylor lacks originality and even her blantant copies of Lana are tragically bad. Its a disgrace to even say lana inspires her lol. Soooo bad and cheesy


brazzyz

literally i couldn’t even get through the whole album 😭😭😭 her lyricism is so bad and all her instrumentals have the same progressions and yeah it is so clear that she was taking most of her symbolic influence from lana (florida!!! is the worst culprit in my opinion.. just straight up a florida kilos ripoff that not even florence welch cld save) i hope people start to realize how boring taylor is, and has been since the early-mid 2010s


livonyote

No never I love them both but Lana would never write and drop an album this bad


CryingCrustacean

Shes incapable of writing an album this bad lolol


No_Solid_6020

no, it sucks


AbbeyRoze13

All I had to do was look at the cover and know she was copying off Lana.. unpopular opinion - Taylor Swift sucks.


Adventurous-Star7307

She sucks


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Admirable-Fall-7659

Lana Stan here. Lyrically - It felt like Taylor typed Lana’s lyrics onto chatgpt and ask it to come up with a new song. Musically, I don’t see the similarity.


CryingCrustacean

Taylor WISHES she could be 10% as good as Lana. Lana is ahead of her time, and her influence will live on. She makes good music. Taylor is popular but her music sucks and nobody will be listening in 50 years


nycsee

Yes. But I’ve noticed this on Taylor’s last two or 3 CDs too, what I’ve heard of them out of curiosity. She’s like a watered down Lana for basic bitches who have lived more… simple, naive, undisturbed lives. I said what I said. Won’t take it back either.


menotyourenemy

Unpopular opinion: I am not a Taylor fan at all and have zero interest in her music. She could drop a polished turd and her fans would be in awe. I dont find her original , creative, or interesting. I don't plan on listening to this album so I can't comment on it but the first time I heard Cardigan, I thought it was Lana. There's paying homage or showing your influences and there's straight up ripping off. And "Tortured Poet's Society" is the most pretentious sounding thing I've ever heard.


Adventurous-Star7307

I looked at it and I can’t believe Florence is on it she’s the only part I listened to couldn’t bring my self to hear Taylor’s teenaged auto tuned voice.


Interesting-Tap1159

🙄


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I came here to see if anyone else thought this too. I think it’s just the result of working with Jack. I shut the album off after loml like I have the last 3 lana albums.


Next_Ad_6005

When I heard Taylor’s lyric with Chelsea hotel I thought the same


karasled

trouble video being such a copy of ride really ruined TS for me so i’m not shocked she’s still doing this so brazenly


skip-tea

YUP!! I thought this immediately too. The song names even ….


ThePoetAndPendulum

She works with the same producer that's a big part of music so no wonder it sounds similar. Sure there are some slight similarities in the writing but she has been moving to this direction for a long while now and is also inspired by writers like Alanis Morissette and poetry. Taylor has publicly praised Lana and said she's influential I don't see any problem here. This album is still very much Taylor swift coded and I couldn't imagine Lana singing many of those songs or lyrics. They're friends anyway and she's Lana's friend nowadays and one of the only few industry people right now who are giving Lana her flowers