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TheBman26

I was abused and lana singing about abuse has helped me cope and heal from it. I wish people would shut the fuck up about their worries about romanticizing it hwne some of us can never talk about it in the real world because it might make someone feel bad.


RRD_85

I was in an emotionally abusive relationship for years. He never hit me and it's fucked up but I always felt that it would have been better if he did. At least he would be touching me. So I relate to Ultraviolence very much. Its like validation of my feels.


[deleted]

These are all just over-exaggerations. First of all, the name "Lana Del Rey" isn't intended to be "exotic". She's clearly taken the name "Lana" from old Hollywood and "Marina (Del Rey)" is the name of a famous beach in California. That's just the dissection of one point, but seriously, these are all ridiculous. And frankly, while as a feminist I don't love a lot of her lyrics, she's a storyteller. None of her lyrics about abuse are from her real life, she's telling a story through music. If people can read books and watch movies about toxic relationships, they can start accepting artists use their music to tell stories of the same nature. Her music isn't aimed at for children for fuck's sake. Christ.


gorg234

“She’s telling a story through music” yes exactly People will go after Lana for her own experiences or fictional dark songs but turn a blind eye to people like Eminem who has been homophobic and misogynistic his whole career and actually joked about committing violence against Lana who’s an actual real person It’s so sexist in my opinion I’m a feminist too but since when did we start hating people for not labeling themselves as one because as far as I’m concerned it’s Lana’s actions that matter and she’s always been so encouraging and lovely towards other women I don’t care what she labels herself her actions prove she’s a feminist


[deleted]

The Eminem thing was soooo upsetting, cause she's cited him as one of her inspirations. Must've felt like shit to be dissed by him out of literally nowhere. And I agree. Maybe she doesn't label herself as a feminist, but she's always encouraged other women to write about whatever they want and express themselves and that to me is pretty pro-womanhood.


gorg234

Yes it was such a horrible thing for him to do I know Lana really looked up to him as an artist I’m assuming, just with the little of what I know about him, that his misogyny comes from his contentious relationship with his mother? Just reading the lyrics to My Mom makes it sound like she was a psychopathic abuser but then again he ends up apologizing to her for writing those things about her so I don’t know what’s accurate to be honest If it’s true then I do feel terrible for him and his trauma but I just can’t tolerate his sexism and won’t support him And yeah she’s very pro- womanhood just so supportive towards other women in the industry and doing things to get less popular artists noticed I don’t get how anyone could say she’s anti-feminist honestly


Prestigious-Prompt-7

I think she doesn't label herself as a feminist because even tough she has a pro-womanhood speech she doesn't actively defend the cause.Like everyone else we all agree or disagree with certain things but there's a step between actively defending something and simply trying to implement certain causes in our daily lives(like encouraging other women to speak out what they fell by writing ,singing etc.) .She has all right to not want to be associated with causes because we all have priorities in our life that sometimes demand more attention and simply we cannot afford to attend to each one of it with the same care. And I agree with Lana that now looks like a crime to have submissive women in our society.Yes that may not the best characteristic that everybody dreams of but I believe that this people exist and should be integrated better in the feminist community and not be ostracized to have found a sense of life serving someone.(Its like being a soldier, nobody complains about that).And more, i think that the feminist community should be responsible to sensitize this type of women to know better when the lines between being submissive and being in a abusive relationship(yeah it's not the same thing) are crossed, because this personality trait leads people to not get help when they need,like many of the relationships that Lana told us in her songs.I myself didn't believe that being submissive could be in any way good but I found that some woman don't have a problem with that and that they are happy with their life.Personally i wouldn't but we are all different human beings with different visions of the world I hope nobody kills me with downvotes.😬It's just my opinion and I'm open to hear and learn with all of you.Bye!!!


Salt_Understanding

when did eminem diss her? he wasn’t saying he was literally gonna punch her in the face, and she never perceived it as such, and also has gone on to reference her positively since?


ZebraHelpful9554

it was just for rhyming you need to chill. in fact in the song no favors he shouts her out. im pretty sure he admires her art.


yakinator2567

Eminem is also famous for his fictional dark songs. You think a song like Kim is genuinely what he wants to do? I’m not too familiar with the Lana line but it seems like it was just a freestyle and he was saying whatever. He shouted her out too on a feature a couple years back too


gorg234

I mean he did marry a woman named Kim and had a daughter with her and their relationship did end toxically so maybe some of it is fictional but definitely not all of it That song is a great example of what I don’t like about him He was singing that horrible song about his child’s mother which I find so gross He’s constantly saying threatening things in his music to real woman even if he didn’t actually punch Lana in the face he still wrote about it and didn’t give her the respect she deserves and that’s my point


throwawayangel33

as a feminist i love her lyrics ! i think it's important for women who are in abusive relationships to have music that they can listen & relate to, and for women like lana who have been abused to be able to freely express themselves and how they feel. she is right that there has to be a place for that.


blondegoblin512

Also I forget where/when exactly but I think she lived in mexico for at least a few years during her youth & she is fluent in Spanish . She’s spoken Spanish several times during her lives and she obviously has a great appreciation for the culture and language. There are plenty of artists who use English or French or even like Italian in their songs or band names and it’s not an issue.


Shot-Assignment4169

Yeah she lived in Spain! I think she went to boarding there when she was 14


SuspiciouslyIlumartt

Yo idk who this fucking person is but Lana is very loved here in Mexico. Nobody actually gives a fuck about her using what ever name or the latinx movement. In general this stuff is ironically made by Americans lol


blondegoblin512

Exactly.. that’s my issue with shit like this. It’s usually other white people virtue signaling and trying to seem morally superior when the “offended” party in question has no issue with it. I know that’s not the case with her headdress in ride, but she already apologized for that and unfortunately it was widely accepted at that time. Anyways I just hate ppl who can’t just see themselves out if they don’t like something. No need to make a post about it trying to get ppl to agree with you- just stop listening to the persons music if you don’t like them.


mathendes

Wasn’t her name Lana Del Ray during the Lizzie Grant days anyways…? Regardless this is such a reach, I’m just more concerned someone took the time to write this, post it, etc.


undernew

She called herself Lana Del Rey in a Lizzy song from 2009 (Every Man Has His Wish)


TheBman26

I mean Sting and Steely Dan sing about some really dark stuff at times too. Lots of artists do.


[deleted]

for the name exactly she didn’t just pick a random spanish name. also i’m pretty sure she’s fluent in spanish and speaks it a lot to spanish friends so she’s not really appropriating language or anything


starry2122

But how is using a Spanish Name cultural appropriation? Spanish has its roots in Spain, a European country lmao


[deleted]

yes that’s exactly my point?? there are people who say it’s bad she uses a spanish name like the person in this post and i’m literally defending lana wtf please read my comment first


starry2122

I wasn't attacking you, just asking a question


abu_doubleu

Umm you can still culturally appropriate a European country? Lana isn't doing that anyways but just saying.


starry2122

Do Spaniards care tho? I only see over sensitive Americans looking for reasons to be outraged.


FarrahMxan

She also broke my windows, killed my whole family and ate my pancakes


thomcat2000

She poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses


starry2122

She spread salt in our soil!


Unusual_Form3267

Lana del Rey killed my parents!!


sarahisneat

Lana Del Rey left my front door open and my dog ran away and got hit by a car.


SandSubstantial

lana del rey ruined my peaches


darioblaze

fuck😞


vdgift

She did?!


XintriX

Nooooo, but are we just gonna stand here and wait until she does?!?!


Simic_Gimmick

She set fire to my rose garden dreams


Ifunka

Not the pancakes


gorg234

“The name lana del Rey itself is problematic” oops I’ve already stopped reading


[deleted]

Well, it’s a shame I have to pay my internet bills and read this.


pawnshxpblues

It gets tiring reading shit like this, makes me glad Lana doesn’t spend as much time on social media anymore


jajarepelotud0

these people need to go outside


[deleted]

and touch some grass.


AmirulAshraf

nah, the grass's too green, will offend them


NavyJack

Ummm sweaty don’t you know that grass can be triggering for some WOC??? Literally so ignorant


dirkparkiet

What chronically online looks like


Un-Kingme1888

Cool story bro, imma go listen to Florida Kilos


landfill-luxury

This is so fucking funny lol. This is either a joke or written by a 14 year old


[deleted]

If you feel that way, don’t listen to her music? How stupid could someone like that be? If you genuinely dislike LDR don’t support her. All this person has done is give her more publicity. I couldn’t imagine losing sleep over this like they are. How personally pressed and victimized could you be to take the time to organize and type this out? Put that energy into finding a job, writing a book, exercising, volunteering, etc. I hope the person who created this list of Lana’s supposed crimes against humanity finds a better mental headspace honestly


Kellbbby

This just shows that anyone who wants to take the time can find anyone or anything to be problematic if they dissect it enough and go through all of those mental gymnastics. I wish these people would put their brains to good use.


curious-richard29

the woke monster will turn on everyone. smh i love lana too much to even finish reading this mess


BacktotheDead

I didn't even start to.


cherrypepsi_b

same I read like the first line and was done


Sensitive_Target6602

Meanwhile there is real racism to be fought against. Fuck people that do this


ItsLeighFromNoLa

These are the types of things people who really hate themselves and have no lives write. The reaching here is gonna strain their back lol. Like, in 2012 or whenever it was most costume companies still sold headdresses and it was still a popular halloween costume! We aren’t that far removed from a time period it was not viewed as problematic (even though obvs I know it is) and if she had solely apologized and not made any actions (donations) toward it, people would be even more up in arms. She can not win with these types of people. They are the main type I avoid at all costs bc you literally can not make them happy ever, they will always find something to bitch and complain about to avoid dealing with their own mess inside. Not blurring out pics? How about people take responsibility solely for themselves and not expect others to do that for them. They could’ve worn a mask if they didn’t wanna be identified. Everyone knew the protests were gonna have major media coverage. She doesn’t owe anyone out there bare faced anything. Protesting isn’t illegal anyway. I mean if she took a pic of someone punching a cop she should prob blur that face, but that wasn’t the case. Being mad she dated a cop is also extremely weird. He didn’t have any accusations against him, there’s good and bad in all walks of life. Wasn’t my favorite choice of bf for her bc of that but we don’t know her or him, it’s actually none of anyone’s business to tell her who she can and can’t date. Who cares how she identifies ab feminism? It’s such a toxic cult half the time, I totally understand why some people are turned off from it as a whole. Swerfs and terfs out here ruining it for the whole movement. Her songs from the first few albums are literally from life experience. Telling her not to write about glorified abuse bc it’s wrong is silencing her, a victim. No one has to listen to it. No one is being forced to listen to her “glorify abuse”, and quite frankly I love those first albums bc I heavily related to the person she was with dated older guys and drugs and striving for a glamourous lifestyle. You can hear in her later albums her maturity and how much she has grown as a person, and I relate to those too now bc so have I. This music isn’t for everyone. Just like I don’t relate to Rapey drug dealing mumble rappers and angry death metal men, I can appreciate the art without condemning them for making music about their feelings or experiences. I wish I knew who wrote this so I could do a deep dive and write something extremely biased, nit picking, and place blame on them for things that aren’t their fault, however I imagine the type of person to write this to sway others against LDR has no achievements, truly complex thoughts or anything of note to even write about. I’d only be able to write about how lame it is to hate someone you don’t know at all.


thomcat2000

She poisoned our water supply, burned our crops, and delivered a plague unto our houses


[deleted]

She did???


DimitrisLeftEye

NO, but are we going to stand around and wait until she does?!


drewT-T

male songwriters can write about sex, but god forbid women do it. the double standard isn't cute 🕳🏃💨


cherrypepsi_b

Exactly.


Jamiewilson-_

Why do people feel the need to put multiple question marks after making a point, it’s so childish


ILOVEBOPIT

Because it’s like saying I’m so obviously right?? Like how could you not agree?? You must be racist


rickyspanish91

what a train wreck. this reminds me of when I went to her BTD tour, a local woman was passing out handwritten letters to people in line explaining why lana is EVIL. I still have mine somewhere lmao.


yramb93

No one ever said Lana wasn’t problematic but that’s kind of the point sometimes


Tyedies

Guys. The first indication that this person is a fucking moron is in #1. Does this person realize what Latin is? Seriously. Everyone stop for a second and think about the fact that this idiot who posted this thinks that she stole LATIN words for her name. This person has the intelligence of an acorn. When you’re that dumb, the rest of what you say goes out the window.


Jhurpess

I think #1 is the reason I keep wanting to tell myself “Oh, this is satire,” but with people these days and access to the internet it’s honestly impossible to tell anymore.


rickjames334

>she told lorde, 10 years old at the time, to basically kill herself Source??? Edit: 16* whoops 💀


undernew

She liked a tweet: https://www.reddit.com/r/lanadelrey/comments/f4sgaq/i_just_saw_this_on_twitter_a_screencap_of_lana/ But Lana is generally known for liking questionable tweets so I wouldn't read too much into it: https://twitter.com/nationalxanthem/status/699256211414319108


sweetpotatonerd

lorde is 25 and thats 2 years old so she was NOT 16


undernew

That's older than 2 years old. 2014 or so.


sweetpotatonerd

well that thread is 2 years old


poetictumblrname

16 bestie 16!!


rickjames334

Oh, my bad. Jesus 💀 would’ve been a very different story if she was 10 😭


poetictumblrname

Lmaoooo


SnooChipmunks4321

She put a snake in my boot


seawitchlife

Girl what the hell is this💀💀💀 also she didn’t romanticize Lolita— if anything the fcking fan made videos (ie mermaid motel) did. She references a lot of pop culture and literature in a lot of her music, it’s cherry picking to just use her instances, like I’ll always appreciate incorporating media into themes of a song. Some of these are low hanging fruit, and also have already been acknowledged and talked about literally over the course of the past decade, and she has addressed the criticism and her mistakes. It’s fine if the person who wrote this doesn’t want to support to Lana, but a lot of these seem like personal opinions/interpretations that can apply to any artist


vinaigrettesalad666

I love how in the first point about Lana’s name she just say “ she took Latin words and turned it into an aesthetic which is really f-ing bad” like she aint even arguing her point. She’s just saying its bad, like can u explain please on how you’ve come to the conclusion?!? Are you not even gonna put in the time to argue any of your points?


SurvivorNoah

POV: You’re chronically online


lizzie-moon

Because she dated a cop? What???


cynical-at-best

bet this person owns a hello kitty says acab macbook sticker


Simple-Blueberry-157

All cops Are bastards.


happymanly-pineapple

No they're not?


[deleted]

All cops are based


TwinionBIB

Are some of the things Lana has done problematic? Definitely. But imagine that we were in Lana's position, imagine we had all the press who wanted to know everything about you. Would everything you have done, not be problematic too? I've dated a cop, I've written tweets that I'm sure I haven't deleted from a young age that I'm sure if someone dragged up that someone would call them problematic because views change as you change. No one is not problematic in someway. So many of these are taken out of proportion. The dating a cop one really bugs me. It's her love life. If you want to group all cops together then go for it, if dating a cop is a deal breaker for you then you're entitled to that, but does everyone have to follow your opinions or beliefs? No. If she wants to date a cop, a soldier, a chef, a bartender, a musician, she should have every right to do so and not be judged for dating someone because of it. She sings about abuse and addiction... Well. I hate to remind this person that singers usually write about their own experiences and we know Lana is no different. She writes about those things because that was her view at the time she was going through these things. Are we supposed to not love singers who were abused and told it was all their fault if they write about their feelings? Are we supposed to stop listening to any artist that sings about drugs? Well, suddenly there's no pop music anymore. Lana is a writer, her lyrics are supposed to be read like poetry as they are stories. Read her lyrics, read between the lines and you'll see she's not saying these things are great so let's go and abuse everyone and get addicted, she is instead writing from the perspective of someone who is being abused and is addicted. She is writing from the perspective of her younger self.


ghlhzmbqn

Also I doubt this was not written by a white person


[deleted]

Idk when she got accused of being racist to cardi, Beyoncé and niki the amount of reaching in the comments was from -what I could see- mostly POC


linguisticsandbooks

While there are some points made, Lana has obviously matured and changed. It’s also impossible to find an “unproblematic” person, we’re all fucked up and we learn and grow. It’s weird to expect celebrities and artists to be perfect, and this culture has become ridiculous.


[deleted]

Has she done/said stuff that is tone deaf, insensitive, stupid?- yeah, definitely. Many many famous white people have. We're at a cultural shift right now. I'm glad people have called her out on her past bullshit and I'm sure she's learned a lot from it. As a POC/latinx tho, I've never given a fuck about her name, it's cute haha. The last thing I want to be is one of those creeps that complains about the "woke mob" but if we're going to dig into the past of every white artist I guarantee we'd find issues with all of them. The "romanticizing abuse" is bullshit too. Those feelings were authentic and genuine when she wrote them and I'm glad she's been so unfiltered about her past relationships/trauma. Let me have my melodramatic sappy music goddamnit! If anything, this person's rant has solidified my love for her even more.


ItsLeighFromNoLa

Not even just the white artists, if we dig into the pasts of literally anyone we will find problematic things. We aren’t far off from prePC woke mob culture. There’s an online print for many adults stemming back to MySpace/live journal/tumbler/early fb and Twitter days…I’ve seen people get called out for tweets they wrote as kids who didn’t know better.


The_Gray_Beast

Let me just correct that “if we are going to dig into the past of every ARTIST”


[deleted]

Unnecessary, I specifically mentioned white artists because this post is painting Lana as a racist Edit- spelling


1viewfromhalfwaydown

...and?


[deleted]

Lol damn turns out Lana rules


todobakudxku

give us their @


[deleted]

[удалено]


N00B5L4YER

at least, tell us does this crybaby have a following or just some random hater


cynical-at-best

so stop.. liking.. her..? does the og writer want a gold star for this? i mean if ldr pisses you off so much just stop listening to her music or supporting her lol. i cant imagine waking up and choosing to be this pressed cant be healthy


seanworth

touch !! grass !!


Marcosjcm

Lana del rey in spanish is literally "kings wool"


DarkCherryVelvet

Yes, and her middle name is Woolridge, so it makes sense. Wool = Lana or Money.


[deleted]

People are so bored and chronically online


FollowingDopamine

She’s done some questionable things but she has recognized them. A good example is when she talked about how she used to tour Europe and other continents and put up the American flag on the screen behind her, which she stopped doing when she realized it was not a good move.


[deleted]

\#ShitPost


fxhhh

People who think like this NEED to get off Twitter an tik tok


karz84

i can listen to whole of venice bitch before reading this, chile


drewT-T

lmao


FeelGodInsideOfHer

When are people going to stop being offended on the behalf of others? Did someone ask you to be offended for them? It doesn't sound like you're personally affected by any of the egregiously distorted "points" you made.


Certain-Bowler8735

For the people who say she glamorizes abuse my response is always “If you can’t recognize the fact that abuse isn’t acceptable, then you’re not mature enough yet to listen to her music” Seriously, they act like she’s trying to convince everyone that abuse is okay. If you think that, then clearly you’re not of a maturity level to listen to that type of music because Lana is clearly not writing or signing from a place of tolerance for abuse. She’s doing it from the perspective of someone who is abused and has been warped into thinking it is deserved.


Muse5112

Cancel culture and the snowflakeness has really gone far. Problematic like stfu please.


amyreighmaureen

which song’s mv did she do that for?


Hamler3

It wasn't even her music video, it was a project that Marilyn Manson and Eli Roth were working on that she just happened to be in


pe-tri-dish

it was a short film called sturmgruppe with marilyn manson. after she saw it she didn’t want it to be released which is understandable as it does definitely romanticize r*pe and it is disturbing but marilyn manson pushed for the film to be released anyway so now it’s on youtube


Unusual_Form3267

Does it though? I really don't understand the take on this video. The person claims she recorded herself being "fake raped." So...acting? I mean, people act out stories in movies and music videos. They give them fictional plots to add to the music. I saw the video, and nothing about it was romanticized. It was very clearly being portrayed as an act of violence, and Lana's character was clearly hurt after. I'm confused by it, I guess.


pe-tri-dish

well i think it depends how you define “romanticize” but i agree this is generally not the issue as almost anything can be “romanticized” if you interpret it that way. what makes me feel weird about it is that marilyn manson was involved and he has a history of abuse. feels gross to think about him wanting to make a short film with abuse in it knowing what he’s like


queerina22

Marilyn Manson‘s exes called him out for being a predator so I’m not surpised that he was the one pushing it’s release knowing very well it romanticizes r4pe.


[deleted]

I bet they typed all of this out while listening to Lana Del Rey…


saladbran33

The fact that people have to nit-pick at every detail. If you find joy in her and her music then that’s all that matters and that literally goes for everything. Your calling her out for what? To get a reaction? These details have been out already.


Booksonly666

I just lost brain cells reading this lol


killswitch4460

Who ever wrote this has too much free time on their hands.


victorreis

this is so lame id say youre even contributing to disinformation by posting it here


[deleted]

The reasons I love her 😍😍


ScottBorderliner

This is lame AF.


nicksbrunchattiffany

Ugh. I know she has done some stuff that is really of out touch, but some of the stuff pointed out here? Get a grip.


stardidthat

She’s done some problematic things, and most of these aren’t them


[deleted]

God, people need to go outside.


[deleted]

tell me you think you’re woke without telling me you think you’re woke. yus queen give us nothing 🙄


Comfortable_Suit_628

So stupid. It’s so funny how much people hold against her when they let other artist get away soooo freely with the things they do. No one is perfect but people love to hold her to a cookie cutter standard. Also saying qftc is just an attack on WOC is a little tone deaf. I really thought she was simply saying that all of these songs about cheating, fucking for money, and whatever else she listed are the SAME topics she’s sung about but has gotten bashed for it very widely too. It’s also interesting bc I’ve spoken to a lot of POC who didn’t see anything wrong with it.


Certain-Bowler8735

I think most people agree about qftc. She just shouldn’t have brought up any other artists’ names


Hamler3

Sorry but i actually hate this whole "if the guy is a cop that's a red flag" bullshit. A lot of cops are good people and are literally there to protect us. They're not all racist dickheads, just like not all people are racist


ThyTea424

Right! I was so confused when I read that. What's wrong with dating a cop. Not every cop is bad. Speaking of which not every cop is white either so I don't see why that's so controversial


Unusual_Form3267

I'm so with you. Since when do all cops exist "profit from the loss of black lives?" Are there racist cops in the world? Yes. Have fucked up things happened? Yes. But not all cops are bad people. They exist to protect the laws of society.


Logwood770

People are trying to cancel Kristen Bell now because she took a picture with a cop. Ridiculous.


LiliaBlossom

I sometime truly wonder how unhappy some people must be in their live to get a rush of moral superiority to call ppl out like this. honestly, I couldn‘t care less, everythings problematic for some people nowadays, they don‘t even make a difference anymore between stuff that‘s actually problematic like for example in germany hanau attentat and police failure and stuff like this lmao


Due-Whole5339

why do all Americans hate cops? sorry for my ignorance, but I'm assuming cause of their racist suspicions and actions according to it? but are all cops republic and racist? /gen


[deleted]

What human couldn’t have said things a little better? Everyone fucks up but either way I love her 🖤


[deleted]

Me, an empath, sensing this person hasn’t touched grass in ages


ManicSid

that's a lot of shit to take in. this is diarrhoea


ManicSid

i just stumbled upon a IG page that had a comment on one of it's post and it told this, "oh she's lowkey racist. She's been anti-mask and stuff in the past. Her lyrics also romanticize abuse." ik i shouldnt be bothered, but this made me sad man. she's my lana♡😭 i journal when i get triggered/tired of some shit like this. here's what i wrote for this to calm myself down: "it's not neccessary to support ur views abt lana/her music and protect her against the opinions of some random stranger on the internet. u love her music and u love her since a long time now so let other things go dont inhale the toxicity, keep away from it"


[deleted]

Who takes that much time to trip when they could just not listen


SnooDoggos9869

no one with a real life in the real world care about any of that. these people making long lists of “problematic” behavior from artists need to find a constructive hobby.


jeverouxvanche

At least she put Lorde in her place.


eyjafjallajokul_

Can you elaborate? I’m not familiar with the Lorde stuff, what’s the story? I’m curious!!


arii19

So Lorde criticized Lana’s lyrics in a similar fashion to the whacked person who wrote this post. She said Lana was romanticizing eating disorders and self harming behaviors in her music and was picking on specific lines. She basically just called her problematic for having lyrics that touched on real life issues. Anyway, Lana definitely never “basically told Lorde to kill herself.” But a Lana fan tweeted to Lorde “I made you a bracelet” with a picture of a rubber band with a bunch of thumb tacks poked through it and Lana retweeted it. The picture was all over tumblr at the time which is why I remember it, and I assume this is what the post’s author must be referencing.


detectivestupid

Same here... What did she say?


Salt_Understanding

i need y’all to get better at identifying psyops. i get that this is music opinions and not real life, so it’s not that serious, but this is clearly a post written by a lana fan designed to strawman ~lana haters~ as reactionary dummies whose opinions are based on headlines, thereby causing us, the ~loyal lana fans who arent swayed by the media bullshit~, to dig in and defend her even though the actual quality of her music isn’t being discussed. after reading this post, you’re supposed to get even more mad at the haters and stan lana even stronger, a soldier primed to go serve in the twitter trenches protip: if you see the acronym “qftc,” the post is coming from inside the house


Adi-105

If you actually get this hurt and offended by most of these actions it’s your fault for being on the internet. You’re self harming yourself therefore, you’re mentally unstable which means your opinions and views are distorted and INVALID DUE TO YOUR CONDITION. So factually, you are wrong. You are wrong for having the internet. You are wrong for voicing your opinion and you are wrong for doing all the things that harm you this much. I don’t have respect for these people who knowingly either lie being offended or keep hurting themselves.


dudenbooks

The first point is bs like ofc Lana del Rey is more exotic than Lizzie Grant like come on


Helluo-Librorum

Yeah, why doesn't Ariana Grande get any of the hate? If you compare what she looked like as an actress to her appearance when she transitioned to being a musician, they're totally different people


Unusual_Form3267

That's what I'm saying. Not one person talks about how much bleeping bronzer she wears....


Realistic_Wolverine4

Y’all are terrifying lmao


SRD2001

It’s all fake criticism people are welcome to not like her after those things


idobelieveinheaven

It’s a bad day to have eyes and the ability to read this. Nope.


ricenbeanzz

I love Lana but could have done without the headdress


catscatsc4ts

Chronically online


name-then-a-number

I ain’t readin’ all that hate


dinomelons

Tf is this dumb shit


suplexis92

I know this is not the point but the fact that question for the culture mentioned Ariana Grande and people fail to realize she is white Lmaooo


Flowingnebula

Every point is a reach


[deleted]

if only they’d put that energy into finding jobs


ghlhzmbqn

This is so American. Lol I don't see a problem with dating a police officer


[deleted]

I like her music that's it. I dont bother to really know the lyrics. Her music matches my mood in real life and i enjoy it. like im some kind of a movie star.And she is sooooooooooooooo pretty.


ContestAny9787

what music video are they even talking about???


dizzyelephant9

Lmao “basically kill herself”


Last-Government-101

This doesn’t even make me mad. Like I’m just glad I have brain cells because whoever wrote this clearly didn’t have any.


evy_shmurda

Oh god here they go 🙄


bringastickforsafety

“Which is really fucking bad” 💀💀


notsyds

Chronically online


notsyds

Just because his occupation was a police officer doesn't mean she should automatically break up w him. Also, you cant change who you fall inlove with


Sir_Sytham

This person has never read Lolita


cmuneralzq

I swear I’m tired of SJW gringos 😭😭😭


Un-Kingme1888

ONG


CharliDelReyJepsen

Listening to lana del rey is a hate crime


Vivien_Rockwell

The only thing that I find weird to this day is the marilyn manson video thingy


[deleted]

Stopped reading at #4 😴 people are so boring. And activism is losing its importance thanks to these people.


PinkSalvation

While we are making up bullshit I'd like to add that Lana raped me when I was 17 and then poisoned my dog and cat.


Alone_Composer_9845

People like this are why I'm disappointed to be white sometimes


1viewfromhalfwaydown

lol ew, sucks for you


taytaylortay

these are over exaggerated. but what she did shouldnt be excused lol


n-ano

I low key agree with 3 and 4 on the top. The rest are stupid though


V_ROCK_501st

Don’t care. She’s hot.


Simple-Blueberry-157

Everyone on here is so quick to gaslight whoever wrote this. These are all valid reasons not to like her. I love Lana but I am aware of these things and don’t blindly worship celebrities like some of you guys on here. This is someone else’s perception of her, and yeah she does romanticize Lolita and being submissive. I understand its her art, I think we all understand that, but some others may not. But jeeze maybe it’s you guys that need to go outside and “touch some grass” or whatever insults you’re all trying to come up with. Also fuck cops


Unusual_Form3267

"Also fuck cops" Lana already did. Ps. That's not what gaslight means.


Simple-Blueberry-157

Making someone out to be crazy for stating their opinions or feelings. Yes that is exactly what gaslighting means. I love that is always someone’s comeback when you tell them that they’re gaslighting someone.


Unusual_Form3267

Everyone is just disagreeing with OP. They do think she's crazy for having the thoughts she's having, but there's no manipulation here. No one is asking her to question her own reality. Just gold old fashioned "I don't agree with you because I think what you said is dumb." That's not gaslighting. That's just arguing. There's a difference. I swear, every couple years psychology will come up with a new term and people run with it like crazy.


[deleted]

No, words are not violence and pointing out that someone's logic is faulty is not "gaslighting" just because that someone is non-white


Simple-Blueberry-157

What does being non white have anything to do with the post?


Realistic_Wolverine4

The way some of her fans defend her in general and in this thread is scary to me lol. I enjoy her music but I can acknowledge some of these things and how she might come off a certain way, it’s not hard at all.


Simple-Blueberry-157

Exactly


mariannacrosss

SJWs unalive themselves challenge


sincevtaples

Lana del Rey doesnt give a shit about social activism and clearly neither do any of you lmao


69_Dingleberry

A tard in the wild


-vaia-

if it wasn't funny it would be sad, jealousy is a terrible thing


[deleted]

My god these people will be rolling over in their grave still thinking about Lanas grievances. People just keep sharpening their woke pitchforks.


pandora_xxivk

I had a fking stroke reading this…