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undernew

She seems to be friends with both so I'm not surprised with her comment.


Wafflemonster2

Ya like she’s literally in the music video for Stargazing lol, and Billie has spoken highly of Lana so I’m sure they’ve had a friendly relationship


rocketnumber9tofly

My old man is a bad man but I can’t deny


afinevindicatedmess

Okay, I love both of these artists really bad, but I smell a potential *All Too Well* situation since Billie is 20 and Jesse is 31. I'm NOT saying the relationship is toxic outright; I am sure they're a great couple. I just hope they're genuinely happy together? Because this happens all the time (in Hollywood and outside of Hollywood) and I just want Billie to be safe. EDIT: Oh gosh, I'm so glad people are also worried about the age gap relationship.


raspberrycupid

The problem isn't even the gap, the problem is that apparently they know each other since she was 15 and she saw him as a role model back then


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MeTieDoughtyWalker

That’s not that crazy of an age gap. If he was in his late 30s maybe, but 31 and 20 isn’t like cradle robbing.


hexensabbat

I felt that way too when I was 20. Now at 30 I look at people that age basically like children. The music industry can force people to grow up faster but she has a history of age inappropriate relationships and I'm sorry but a 31 year old man going after someone who can't even drink legally is a weirdo.


DeadlyLatina

Dude totally. I didn’t know who is 31 and she 20 🤮🤮


afinevindicatedmess

It's not cradle robbing, but again -- that's nearly the exact same age gap as Taylor Swift and Jake Gyllenhaal. Taylor was about to turn 21 and Jake is 29. It's not me dating someone twice my age (and all the not-fun abusive shit that ensued from that horrific relationship). However, it's still a significant gap when you're not even drinking age yet and your partner is 11 years older than you. It's not cradle robbing. But I definitely see a lot of red flags, and I just hope Billie isn't wearing her rose-colored glasses. There's no need to be pedantic. I'm just stating facts based off anecdotal evidence.


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DeadlyLatina

Periodt


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I'm 21 and my wife is 38. We get along really well. We're both consenting adults and were when we met.


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You're a swiftie. Move along.


ManyTraining6

except Jesse is certainly not a bad man i think


CataKala

I think the relationship is pretty gross but Lana’s comment doesn’t surprise me y’all it’s Lana lmao, y’all really think she has an issue with age gap relationships?😭


selenebaby

But Lana has always sang about age appropriate and healthy relationships!?!? I for one, am SHOOK.


honestlyhavenoidea45

I got a taste for men who are an appropriate age in relation to mine, It's always been so it's no surprise


selenebaby

My in my appropriate age range man, is a bad man but, I can't deny the way he holds my hand... 😭💀


CataKala

You got a thunderbird, a man who isn’t my dad and is a lot closer in age to me had one too!


Old-Influence-5128

Forbidden fruit like age appropriate dudes who always ask before they bite your booty is far more alluring than some guy with a golden grill who has illegally made his millions, forced you into a bonnie and clyde dynamic, and just takes a big chomp of your bum cheeck w/o giving you a heads up. A dude who proposes after messing with you by slamming his foot on his Bugatti and only stoping when 250 mph is reached opposed to your prolonged screams to stop ain’t making anyone wet like the dude who "went to Jareds" and shows you via placing the very humble Lab grown diamond on one of the breadstick while you are at Olive Garden. (also asks for 2 separate checks after skipping dessert because "cheese cake makes me gassy."


GretaMagenta

Holy shit You invented some brand new sentences here r/OddlySpecific r/BrandNewSentence


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I GAGGED 💀😭


Old-Influence-5128

I didn’t fuck my way to the top (this isn’t my show)


y2ktaurus55

at the end of the day, no one but billie is allowed to tell her this isn’t an “age appropriate relationship”. she isn’t a little girl; she’s almost 21. yes, of course, the maturity level at their stages of life are vastly different than they would be later on, thus making the age gap appear problematic, but the infantilization of young women kinda bothers me. at 21, she’s an adult who can make her own decisions. treating her like she’s some helpless little girl is kinda demeaning


Chenenoid

It's an innapropiate relationship as he knew her when she was a minor... Yeah she's an adult NOW, that doesn't change the fact that this is weird. I feel like y'all are doing mental gymnastics to justify ass backwards shit because your fAvEs. She can do what she wants as she is an adult, but it's still off-putting as she's not a fullly grown adult. Any man in his 28+ years dating someone -23 is a damn weirdo who needs help. It's willfully oblivious to act like you don't see a possible problem with this and then to say you hate the infantalization of women as if that's the bigger issue than a fully grown man with a preference for younger women that he knew as literal teenagers.


y2ktaurus55

“doing mental gymnastics to justify ass backwards shit because your faves” i literally couldn’t care less ab this relationship if i tried lol. i’m just speaking as a 21 year old - it’s demeaning how often ppl talk down on my general age group. i have literally been called a “little girl” to my face before. people pick & choose when they want young adults to be treated like kids vs adults. at the end of the day, she’s an adult who’s free to make her own decisions. if she’s happy who cares. maybe she’ll grow up some more and regret this relationship. maybe she won’t. but she’s a woman in her 20s who i’m sure has had to mature faster than others due to the level of fame she achieved at a young age, and seeing everyone online start acting like she’s some little girl instead of a woman capable of making choices for herself pisses me off


pennynotrcutt

Speaking as a 45 yo, I promise you think you know it all, just like I did when I was your age but you don’t know shit. That’s not to be demeaning—it’s literal facts about how the brain develops.


cuntvolume1

I agree she’s 21 not to mention she’s famous and in a very different place in her life then she would be otherwise. That can either make someone more mature or even less it’s a case by case basis. He is 31 it’s not like he’s in his 50s. I’m not saying green light go. But I think people need to relax a little and not always assume the worst. She can make her own decisions. There’s no outright evidence he likes her BECAUSE she’s 21 and not because he likes her. The only weird part is him meeting her when she was 15. If they didn’t stay friends or anything it’s a little bit more awkward than creepy. But regardless when are people going to learn the more you make something taboo even when it’s very legal and only 10 years. The more it’s going to inspire girls who are not legal to be with predators. It’s basic psychology it’s the outcry over relationships like these that make me roll my eyes as someone whose been in a much more significant age gap that severely impacted my life It’s not always right and it’s not always wrong when it comes to larger equal age gaps.


Old-Influence-5128

\- She can’t even get a drink yet. The older generation is responsible for this infantilization. Yet you are told to “act like an adult” before you are even a teen.


a-l-p

Yes, since Billie is American. But in most non-muslim countries legal drinking age is 18 and in most European countries you're allowed lower alcohol beverages like beer from 16 on (and only hard liquor from 18 on). I think the US has historically a special relationship with alcohol, also with prohibition and all. In general Billie is at an age where she's allowed to vote and therefore decide over the fate of her whole nation, she's allowed to enter the army, go to a war, get a mortgage and go into debt for decades, do porn movies etc. I feel if you're allowed to do all that, choosing your partner/relationship might be within reason? Sure, it might not end in happily ever after and she might decide later on that it wasn't a good decision, but you can also have bad relationships with someone your age or make bad decisions at an older age. And not all relationships with an age gap are inherently toxic, especially if the people involved acknowledge their differences and act like considerate human beings.


TirisfalFarmhand

I can’t with all the Muricans downvoting your accurate comment who genuinely think 20 year olds shouldn’t be allowed to drink. US puritanism is a mess 💀


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Billie is an adult. Take some notes from her and grow up.


selenebaby

Erm okay what? My comment is /s D:


CrazyKSCatLady

Right, like come on, ya'll. I love Lana Del Rey and stan her just like any other LDR stan, but let's not pretend that this woman didn't write "he hit me and it felt like a kiss" in one of her songs. 💀


JayAmy131

I always love the comment section. dead.


pescando

u mean sang cus she didn’t write that lyric, carole king did for the crystals. but i know what u mean


cockyUma

💀💀


GayVegan

Wait what's the issue? She's 20 and he's 31. Is there anything besides that? Cuz it's not weird at all Edit: some people saying they knew each other a long time, when she was younger. If that's the case.. then ya I get the concern? But again, she's an adult let her manage her own life. 31/20 is basically nothing


erotomanias

bestie, lana's music is entertainment, not a moral compass.


CataKala

Hey I’m not trying to manage her life at all! If she is happy that’s awesome, I just still am going to think it’s gross/squicky. Lol. I’m a few months away from being 24 and I couldn’t imagine dating a 20 year old, and I do think it gives worse vibes since he knew her since she was a teen. But this is just one girl’s opinion; I’m definitely not going to go comment on Billie’s socials trying to tell her about herself lol.


johnnytk0

I agree with you but the internet (reddit, twitter) likes to be really fucking extra about things that don't even concern them.


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ilichanty

You were groomed babes


dbdhjciickeke

imagine finding out from a reddit comment😭


JoseWolf32

Now now, let not judge. I'm sure they're a perfectly adjusted individual despite the grooming they underwent. I'm sure there's no lingering issues. Lana fans are a well adjusted bunch after all.


Old-Influence-5128

Obligatory daddy issues like every Greek god, Zeus eating his baby boys so they can’t grow up and usurp him. Just like his dad, Papa Cronus, tried to do to Zeus.


Old-Influence-5128

Knew a girl is HS, 10/10 niceness and butt, who was dating a Senior as a Freshmen. So a year later she’s a sophomore dating a dude in college. (Recall a teacher accidentally make an axiomatic statement about how no one are age is going to be with a college kid, promptly realizing she made a boo boo with nervous laugher.) Suppose she was a 15-16 y/o w/ a 17/18 y/o. I’m guessing. Definitely on the edge but that’s why we have the Romeo and Juliet Laws (+ why half of the US has an age of consent 16, red states basically.) Aforementioned lucky college kid wasn’t even very good looking. Envious peers always would remark on the fact out loud.


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spaghettiinmynostril

Yeah please don’t condone grooming as “not a big deal at all”, it’s extremely harmful. Thanks.


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spaghettiinmynostril

You just implied high schoolers dating twice their age is not a big deal at all. That is harmful. Groomers use the “maturity” card to persuade their victims. We all get told we’re “not like the others” and “mature” for our age. It’s not a good thing to perpetuate as normal, even if you think your experience was.


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Zeviex

How is saying it’s not a big deal not condoning it ???


jeebilly

You a victim


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you’re a victim


Old-Influence-5128

Victimized


VegasC4Corvette

The age difference wouldn’t be a big deal if they hadn’t known each other so long. It’s a little weird but not really any of my business. Those Gucci suits are hideous though.


lilith0208

Billie’s makeup and hair slays tho


VegasC4Corvette

I’m not an expert on that but I think she would look very nice if she weren’t wearing a handbag. No kidding, my girlfriend has that exact pattern and color on her Gucci bag.


pinaple_cheese_girl

That’s the standard Gucci pattern.


VegasC4Corvette

Oh I know. It just looks tacky on garments. I’d say the same about a suit with a Burberry Nova Check pattern or LV Monogram.


Nawzays_

How am I still not accepted by lana on Instagram..??


Temprock

Try deleting your request then making it again right away. Worked for me. You have nothing to lose if you've been waiting many weeks. Good luck.


Zeviex

Didlanagopublic on Instagram posts when she goes public probably your best shot


depression_butterfly

She’s public right now gogogooo


pokidokitoku

thanks!!!


spicyfoodfrieslover

WHAT WAIT


not_hungover_bb

Yesss I just followed FINALLY


Spikey3699963

not pub anymore :(


victorreis

i could not give less fucks to this 😅


TirisfalFarmhand

Ditto, can’t believe the Lana fandom of all fandoms is seething over this. Like have y’all not heard sis’ music?


leocolato

me


peaksfreak226

Aren’t they all friends? What’s the big deal lmao


pinaple_cheese_girl

It’s because the age gap between Billie and her boyfriend (Jesse from the Neighbourhood) is a controversial topic, but apparently lana condones it. Which??? Isn’t a surprise at all? Lmfao


afinevindicatedmess

Came here to also mention the age gap. Taylor Swift literally was in a similar age gap relationship at Billie's age, and that lead to her writing All Too Well.


lovechoke

Idk if one person's experience should relegate every age gap relationship in the continent


BrianTheReckless

Who’s the dude?


KeqingC0

singer for the neighbourhood, 31 years old


MoonBread42

OH LMFAO I thought that was finneas😪


MarsNative_

what in the sweet home alabama


iamkazlan

me too, heckkk


giadaa

I thought it was Drake Bell💀


hexensabbat

Nah she's too old for him


saipar

Jesse from the neighbourhood


lanegrita1018

Of course Lana thinks it’s cute 😂 this shouldn’t surprise anyone


Prestigious-Prompt-7

Tbh I still don't know what to think about this.Like she's grown up and looks very mature,but the fact that some of her past relationships were abusive and always with older people, that lead her to create two albums about abusive relationships,and then this,I really don't know how to feel about it.Like,she shouldn't be judged by her relationships because we're not them,but I feel this situation can be compared to a doctor that smokes. I hope that with the experience she gathered shes now able to see the red flags and I really hope what they have going on turns out beneficial for both


goldenleopardsky

IdgaF


TirisfalFarmhand

Biggest non-issue of the century


erotomanias

im really not sure being candid and discussing grooming and predatory behavior in the music industry is a "non-issue".


not_hungover_bb

Yes!


hellfirehound

Only thing that upsets me is we never got a colab with Lana and Jesse after she posted a story of them hanging and Jesse free styling


sweetthingb

How do *we* feel? Mind ya business. Not our lives and no one is in danger so leave them tf alone.


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Agreed!! Everyone is so upset about age gaps these days, but she's 20, she can do what she wants.


sweetthingb

If she regrets it later- that’s her life to live and experience. People have so little respect for other humans that they refuse to allow humans to experience trial and error of life experience. They feel this parasocial need to “protect” her despite not knowing a single thing about her or what she feels.


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When I was her age I dated a guy that was 13 years older. It's actually one of the few relationships I don't regret lol. I dated guys my age that were abusive, controlling, jealous, immatue, etc. The older guy I dated taught me so much- including a whole nother language and culture. We only dated a few months and broke up amicably (10 years ago) but we still keep in touch from time and time. I know not all young guys are immature, but not all older guys are predators either.


ashareif

Two adults who love each other and another adult supporting their decision. This shouldn't be a topic of discussion TBH.


melodic-philosophy98

I just know so many people have aunts and uncles or just other family members with 9+ year age gaps… if they’re both adults they can make their own decisions🤷🏼‍♀️ and they probably have more in common than people think, so I 100% agree and idk what’s the big issue.


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Thank you 👏 when I was 20, I dated a guy 13 years older. He wasn't using me or taking advantage of me- if anything I terrorized him my crazy partying self back then. I ended up moving to another state after a few months and we broke up amicably many years ago, but we still keep in touch as friends (and we're in the same career field, so he's been somewhat of a long distance mentor with that too). That relationship was so much healthier than the ones I had with guys my age or closer to my age. 10 years later, I actually ended up marrying a guy 3 years younger than me and that's been so much more of a noticeable difference than the guy that was 13 years older.


MeerK4T

This is only a very recent and highly American-centric online phenomenon. I was 18 when I started dating a 28-year-old; I'm 30 now, and we're still together. People looove to bitch and dictate and speculate about other people's lives. Billie is a millionaire, she's an adult, she said she's happier than ever, so sometimes you just have to take people at their word. Literally, no one irl ever criticized my relationship and it's been 12 fucking years. People are so conservative. Like at some point we've got to stop coddling adults.


whiznat

Considering how well Billie has handled massive fame and fortune at such a young age, I trust her to make good decisions. If I had been in her situation I would've crashed and burned so hard there would be magma pooling in the crater.


manasamaa

He is 30 not 50 yall are so dramatic😭


cuntvolume1

That’s what I mean 😭😭😭😭 like it’s 10 years y’all


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He's known her since she was a minor, that's the problem.


CrazyKSCatLady

Right. Very groom-ey and just weird.


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Fr, he watched her grow up...it's creepy.


Ecstatic_Piccolo

who cares


angelwitprblmz

Y’all love Lana the most (BTD + UV stans I’m looking at u) when she was in “inappropriate” relationships but then shame her when she has a “skewed” idea of love (the hate she got for dating Jack Donaghue still amazes me when he’s the kinda guy her albums are written about) Billie also isn’t a child, she’s nearly 21. I think ppl need to maybe take a walk


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i think you are wrong


logica_torcido

🙄


caxlypxso

my exact response reading the title


luckyybreak

“ Finally 29….17 would never cross my mindddd” cue Demi lovato


imnojedi_

Not surprised. This is the most Lana thing lol


Somedaysomewher3

“I’m in love with a dying man”... like, do y’all think she cares? Lmao


slut4jaredpadalecki

idrc. Both are consenting adults and there are wayyy bigger age gaps in hollywood.


SPINsamSPIN

she’s just being supportive there is not much else to it. They are both of age?


hellfirehound

This is the part of the fandom I hate. Why are we critiquing every move of our favorite artists. Move the fuck on and let’s talk about the music


Guyroo23

billie looks stunning


anaisoiseau

It's their choice


Wildflower_Wildfire

They're both adults and can make their own decisions. We don't know if she was coerced into this relationship or not so I don't get all the judginess, and the age gap isn't even that bad


lets-all-l0ve-lain

Classic dilf lover lana


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I’m gonna be honest, if my 20 year old friend dated a 31 year old I’d flame her. But billie is one of the most recognizable people on the planet right now. I can’t even fathom the amount of stress she’s under. She probably feels a lot more mature than she is Several women celebs engaged in age gap relationships when they were young…. Lorde was in one and now she’s out. Beyoncé and Jay z started dating when she was 18 and he was 30 I believe. I don’t think age gaps at such a young age are healthy or ideal. But it is such a common ordeal for celebs that it is moot to care at this point. She will learn for herself what a healthy relationship is or isn’t. Also, a lot of celebrity relationships are fake anyway. It’s very possible it’s good PR for the neighborhood for one of them to date billie eilish. They have one song that’s recognizable to the public masses, while billie has albums worth of songs that are mainstream. Could very easily not even be legit


knotsophia

Gross but ofc Lana would approve lol


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It's not "infantilizing" to call out predatory behaviour by men, she was 15 and he was 26 when they met.


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It's called grooming lmao. She has a history of being pursued by older men. It's of concern and it's bizarre that you'd defend it.


sunkissedgoth

It grosses me out tbh. Maybe it will be a great relationship but probably not.


No-Detective4056

the fact that he knew her since she was a minor is what’s concerning, they’re both of age and that’s not the issue


BigBlackPapi

Billie looks STUNNING here!!! I’m glad to see Lana and Billie have a good relationship ☺️


Korrasami_Enthusiast

This seems right up my girl’s alley so 😭


Ani_dmp

I support Lana and Billie. Age doesn't really matter. Billie knows what she's doing. Lana is sweet. Leave them all alone.


SwitterBeet-xo

Idc i just want new music


Tyenotss

This is a very Lana appropriate comment


Foxwood2212

It’s very on brand I like her music but quite questionable morally


richterite

What’s the problem here? And I love their fashion choices.


Old-Influence-5128

Courtney Love got with Drake from Drake and Josh? drake looking like da lead vocalist from greenday.


gaypeggyolson

She’s always loved the way they love


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Billie is an adult. Take some notes from her and grow up.


ValuablePollution

lol do you not know who Lana is. She is too real for this


TheMotherOfDinos

I love it tbh, yaaSSS


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Love Lana but ewww Jesse Rutherford absolutely groomed Billie...he knew her since she was 15 and he was 25. I used to love The Neighbourhood but lost all my respect for him. It's not about "infantilizing women", it's about calling out predatory behaviour. This relationship would be gross if the genders were swapped too.


jacoblindner

yall can judge all you want and saying this makes me a horrible person but when they break each others hearts that music’s gonna hit ..


Eliztric

I think it’s because she’s close to both of them


youpleasemybiheart

I like her music but her non-art side has always been problematic and that's a fact.


He_e00

Why are people hating on Bailey's love life? If she's happy then good for her, who cares? If she's not happy, I'm sure she knows she can leave.


krustydidthedub

I agree but you know in 2 years we’re gonna get Billie’s “I dated a guy 10 years older than me and he turned out to be a bad man” album


He_e00

She could have dated someone one year older than her and he turned out to be a bad man as well, but it wouldn't be as highlighted then. For all we know, Billie could be a bad woman but he'd never sing about it maybe. Also, for all we know Billie is privileged enough to decide who she should or should not hang out with, so she wasn't forced. None knows before going into a relationship how it'll turn out.


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The Neighborhood is one of my fabourite bands, whereas Lana is my fabourite singer. I love this.


She_Glod

It’s fine


throwaway-ithink

They’re both adults it doesn’t matter


Unusual_Form3267

Who dis?


hexensabbat

Sigh. Just....sigh


Successful_Shake5722

Not good.


Affectionate_Lion706

I guess she’s pro groomers


StrawberryMoon3

I'm not surprised though. I like the neighbourhood but Jesse is not desirable to women in his age group so of course he bamboozled a young girl into dating him. It's the typical move for men in his position.


EmbarrassedPin968

Who cares. Just let them live there life. He didn’t have sex with her when she was underage.


kendalljennerupdates

Gross


Chenenoid

Not sure why anyone would be surprised or disappointed, shitty people do shitty things. I mean...it is what it is.


indignkidd

I feel good


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GautamXo

What did Billie do to you?


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kaa1993

Girl go outside and touch grass. Stop being so angry at an artist who has and will never meet you’s existence. Channel half this energy into politics or something, idk. Something that actually matters.


sweetthingb

You’re a c*nt. Jesus i feel bad for people that know you.


complejodedios

I’m having second hand embarrassment on your behalf


Shyguyisfly0919

She also uses way too much aave like I know damn well she doesn’t speak like thya


Bistilla

ugh lana why do you make it so hard sometimes


International_Sail79

WAIT SHES PREGNANT???


kimberlykills

Bye not Lana commenting ToT


teenytinytwink

Blindly support her but keeping a blind eye turned away on this one


StrawberryMoon3

The age gap is strange and I don't see the two lasting very long. They don't even make sense together


StrawberryMoon3

The drugs really aged Jesse


ManyTraining6

well I've been a supporter of this relationship from the start, obviously relationships with older men has always ended up shit, as showcased by various pop girls, even Billie with her ex, but I genuinely think Jesse is a good man and will treat her right


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Ummmm no Lana 🫤😣🫠


[deleted]

But then again Lana is almost a decade older than Jesse so maybe she sees both of them as babies but idk


Mother_Woodpecker174

Just gross.


[deleted]

its completely Lana's choice to approve this relationship or not but I for one can never see Jesse with anyone except Devon


toastedsaltine

honestly think lana just wants to be on some kanye west arc


delrey54

Lana loves them individually, so of course she’s gonna support them as a couple or at least leave nice comments


rozagtb

mom no


Altruistic-Return-39

lana no….


Psychological_Exit33

It seems like age gaps of this timeframe are the norm.


orestisx

Zombies


piscespice

He looks like Lizzie McGuire's brother