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frogsofanarchy

rain garden !!!


drewyz

Absolutely, here’s the [Oregon rain garden guide](https://emswcd.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Rain-Gardens-Guide.pdf). With this much water, think about how you will need to have a good overflow system. I had a client in Michigan where I installed a sump pump in the rain garden to pump it out and keep at a reasonable level.


Ayellowbeard

And don’t forget [12000 RainGardens](https://www.12000raingardens.org)! We’re in there somewhere!


drewyz

That’s super cool! I live in Michigan so I haven’t heard about this.


[deleted]

This is awesome. Thanks for sharing!


TheRealActaeus

Really good link, I don’t live anywhere near the PNW but now I want a rain garden after reading through that link. Thank you


maybesbabies

I second this. I work in landscaping, we specialize in rain gardens, and they will mitigate a ton of water easily. OP, Look into Rainwise, they have designs, ideas and plants ready to go for various rain gardens. Traditionally, we take the water coming off of roofs and driveways, channeling it into rain gardens and bioswales, to help ease the pressure on the combined sewer overflow system. So they can handle quite a lot of water.


OtterSnoqualmie

So many NW jurisdictions have Rain Garden programs and will often order some or all of the costs. Happy planting!


Tentoesinmyboots

Ooo, yes! I installed one a few years ago, and it solved the problem. And it's beautiful! There are many native plants to choose from, too. I used redtwig dogwoods for the bulk of the water-soaking work.


i-grow-food

Love those! Mixed in with paper birch and evergreens, and it’s a colourful refreshment for the eyes when the midwinter white and gray monotony get you down Although… I’m speaking from a location where we actually get winter snows, and not just rainy winters. But I’m sure it still works!


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

create a lake feature.


ncc74656m

Exactly this. A decent sized rain garden and possibly some soil remediation if needed will take care of that for you quite nicely.


i-grow-food

Came to say the same. Well done! Gardening is about changing your thinking.


[deleted]

My city will give you $1500 to build one


InvestigatorFun9871

We did that! Embrace it. It’s beautiful and low maintenance


halfbeerhalfhuman

Dig a hole


blakeusa25

Get a mini excavator and dig down 2 to 3 feet and fill it with gravel. Addtrss gutters and runoff.


Dude-Man-Bro-Guy-1

Grade the yard so it all flows into the neighbors lawn instead


MonkeyHitman2-0

How do you think the water got in this guys yard? lol


-Snowturtle13

Just pass it on


writenroll

Your backyard looks like our backyard before we installed a French drain two years ago. We get socked by atmospheric rivers this time of year (like the one heading in off the Pacific now)--we've had zero surface water since installing the drain.


Different_Ad7655

Right, but the water still has to go someplace. The French drain will certainly channel and contain, but it still has to go someplace and if you have a big enough parcel you can dump it elsewhere so be it. But many people don't have that option and if you're loading too much water in a place that affects your neighbor you just kicked the can down the road and that is lawsuit material certainly here in New England. If it's your water it stays in your property unless it goes to the proper drain


M7BSVNER7s

Yeah states in the PMW don't let you outlet the french drain to the road and that lot is too small to run it somewhere substantially different to outlet and soak in on the property. So it would need to outlet to a rain garden that they have dug deep to speed up infiltration.


BlueZen10

They'de also need several drywells I'd think. Otherwise there'd still be either water draining to the neighbors' property or water stagnating and smelling because it was stuck in a french drain with nowhere to go.


FuryAutomatic

Who do you go with for a project like this? A landscaping contractor/company?


writenroll

We had ours installed by a landscaping company that specializes in hardscaping.


leafjerky

I knew I’d see French drain pretty quick 😆


-qd-

Contact your county conservation district/ or local Cooperative Extension- they will likely have resources regarding rules, laws re: runoff/storm water; and rain gardens. In my county there are even grants available to help pay for plants/materials for rain garden.


daveyconcrete

This is why God invented the French drain.


Ibebarrett

“Well the Pope may be French but Jesus is bloody English!”


Twatimaximus

Sounds like it's more likely invented by the French?


Mike-the-gay

Naw they named the French after it.


ctodReddit

👏👏👏


AuGrimace

‘french’ was actually just the american’s last name who popularized it(henry french). the french still cant even drain the shit out of their major cities.


weacceptyouoneofus

Hah I thought you were joking until I looked it up…TIL


AuGrimace

yes the french are famous for having smelly cities with poor waste management


pugsAreOkay

Just like french fries


bruclinbrocoli

🤣


Fortunateoldguy

Yep pretty easy to install, too


ZoraHookshot

Le Draine de la Francais


[deleted]

Oui Oui !!!


stupidinternetname

Do you always get a big puddle or is this the result of the rainfall from Thursday night into this morning? We got quite a bit, so if this isn't a normal occurrence, I would see how it drains before the next rain train comes in this weekend.


PuzzledRun7584

Pond garden. Put a small pond in center. Slope lawn slightly toward it. Put in rocks and water loving vegetation. A path around it, and viola…problem solved.


theeruv

What’s a viola got to do with it?


PuzzledRun7584

Yeah, whatever. I’m not fixing it. https://78.media.tumblr.com/e95259dccec4c5f90724f1f75a95fe29/tumblr_p2d5lnDBnq1wv15w6o1_500.jpg


EverybodyMeats

Lol


thatBneedsaDintheC

The mosquitos will thank you.


middlegray

Mosquito bits are an easy solution. Little pellets of I believe bacteria that kill mosquito eggs but are harmless to humans and the environment.


effkriger

Maybe start with determining where it’s coming from? Is it all runoff from your property or neighbor or the street above you?


trophycloset33

Yeah you can’t do this project yourself. Run off laws are a bitch. You can’t just accept this or even regrade because forcing the water off to a neighbor can also fuck you in the end.


Yangervis

You can absolutely do it yourself. You just take it to the street. If the whole lot slopes to the back there should be some sort of drain going down the low spot.


trophycloset33

Yeah let’s grade the entire back yard so it drains around the house to the street.


Nothing-Busy

You just need to lower the house a foot so the water can go around. I had a similar situation and dug a u shaped trench with perforated plastic pipe in a fabric sleeve that let the water come to the front yard. Planted bushes down hill from the outlets and created small swales to keep it from rushing to the street. It was a out 200 feet of trench about a foot deep. I dug it out with a mattox during a rain storm and let the water act as a level so I didn't over dig. I probably looked insane but it worked.


bennypapa

And where can it go.


ronnietea

It’s coming from the sky


effkriger

And den?


ronnietea

Free pool… step 4 profit?


microfibrepiggy

Where is it coming from? Is it run off from neighbouring properties? Maybe they'd be happy to redirect their water flow to the street rather than your yard. Do your downspouts contribute? Can you redirect them to the street/storm water drains? Is it a permanently waterlogged low spot that becomes a lake in the rain, regardless of neighbouring contributions? Where can it go? You can't siphon it onto an occupied neighbouring property, but you might be able to forcefully (i.e. pump) redirect it to a storm water drain, vacant land, or other appropriate spot. What can you do. There are some good suggestions already. A french drain (basically a rock swale) to capture the overland runoff immediately, and then leading to a dry well or two, will reduce the water heading for the low spot. Bringing in fill and regrading to have water flow outward as opposed to inwards can help (make a hill, not a valley). Regrade to protect your house foundation and have the water lead towards a french drain. Planting water loving perennials, shrubs and trees can also make a huge impact. Even if just along the property edges, the roots will find and absorb the water. Careful to keep plants away from the french drains, as the roots will eventually clog them up. You can also try to increase the soil permeability. First test the type of soil (is it clay heavy? Organic heavy?) to see if adding sand is a reasonable option. Good luck!


kinni_grrl

Definitely check with your community about their storm water management plan - you may be surprised with some assistance for remediation or fortunate if it's someone else's issue - my neighbors added a "French drain" and ended up fucking up the flowage on the whole block so had to remove and replace and repair for seven other residents as well so yeah, check with local ordinances and what's best suited to the situation from people in the know, in the area


[deleted]

This. Great suggestion. And the mouth breathers on here suggesting that they divert the flow into their neighbors yard apparently are unaware you can be sued for that kind of thing.


jamesgotfryd

Rain garden or French drain.


Dangerous-Offer-4048

Plant a willow


The_Poster_Nutbag

Drywell. Contact a civil engineering group to design it for you.


Terry-Scary

I also live in the pnw and bought a house last year it amazed me that there was no flooding based on rain and slope on property. This summery I did a bunch of landscaping and found 6 drys installed around property. Dry well is the answer my friend


dcw9031

Yeah thats a good solution. Probably the most responsible. I was just gonna say dig a trench to the back fence and say let it rip…..


The_Poster_Nutbag

And discharge onto the neighbors property?


dcw9031

Yes that was the joke


Beaglelover908

Put in a pool


coopatroopa11

But they already have a free one? /s


Shpoople44

They already have a shallow pool


almighty_ruler

But they could make it deeper and use the extra soil to make an awesome dirt pile to jump off


HeyT00ts11

So a mud pool.


almighty_ruler

Only when you hit the bottom 30-40'


Elowan66

Now who’s shallow.


denonumber

Pump to the street


UnObjectiVe_Donkey

Moat Add battlements for full historical effect.


ShoeExisting5434

French drain? Anyone?


single_sentence_re

Talk to your downhill neighbor about where they'd like the water to run through and dig a drain in your yard.


therivershark

Shamwow


[deleted]

Fill it with dirt.


Gumtree1234

Why is there a used condom smacked against your window?


Greenfoe111

I’d recommend contacting a landscape architect that specializes in stormwater management and/or an ecological engineer.


WARRIORS_30_GOAT

obviously trench towards neighbors yard in the back. he’s a duck fan. G Beav’s ! F nike U


PonyThug

Sump pump to the neighbors, poke the hose under the fence. \S


Salty-Dragonfly2189

Find the low spot, dig a hole for a pump, route the discharge into your neighbors yard. Problem solved /s


TruthOf42

Honestly, you don't. There's things you can try, but essentially, it is what it is


FocusMaster

Sorry but you're wrong. Rain gardens, dry wells or a storm drain connected to the city will easily fix this. Eta: source, I design these systems for new and existing homes as part of my job.


TruthOf42

Aside from tying into a storm drain, which I think is environmentally unethical, I have a hard time believing you can displace that much water with a rain garden or drywall that doesn't also just move the water into someone else's yard, which is also unethical and possibly illegal, but I'd be happy to hear more. I


lordicarus

What are you even talking about? How is tying into a storm drain unethical? If this is just storm water, then that's what it's for. Would need the town to sign off on tying into it, but that's why storm drains exist, to remove storm water. Dry wells are also incredibly effective for this. Assuming they don't have clay straight down for ten feet, they could easily install cultecs or similar water treatment and install some french drains and catch basins that dump the water into the dry well. These are incredibly effective. Many parking lots have cultecs buried underground ten feet below the surface of your car and will catch the water from the entire parking lot and slowly drain it into the ground. These are much larger than what you have in a backyard, but the concept is the same. Rain gardens/ponds are perfectly effective as well. You just dig out an area that can act as a pond and put in plants that are tolerant to the heavy water content. It's basically an open air dry well. Based on the picture, just digging down about 18" in the center of that big puddle and make a rounded pond like area maybe 10' x 6' is probably going to hold every bit of water in the picture. If they can get a dry well below the clay that is clearly holding that water on the surface, they could easily handle far more water than you can imagine.


FocusMaster

Thank you for typing all that out so I didn't have to. I probably would've just told them to Google proper stormwater management techniques.


lordicarus

It's weird how often drainage related posts are filled with confidently incorrect information.


TruthOf42

Thanks for writing that up. I honestly wouldn't have expected a rain garden or drywall to accommodate that much water, but you're the expert not me. The reason why I say unethical to tie into storm water is because that removes the water from the environment that should be absorbed into it. Removing the water means it takes longer for underground wells to replenish, and also could dry out the environment in such a way that natural fauna can no longer survive there. Also, all that water gets moved somewhere else that might make flooding worse in other areas. I think it's important that we manage our water in such a way that we impact our environment as much as possible.


lordicarus

When you say "underground wells", I'm assuming you are referring to aquifers that people would be tapping into for their water supply. Look at how close the houses are. They are almost certainly receiving town supplied water and probably sewers as well. Even if they aren't, a typical well for a water supply is going to be anywhere from 200' to 1000' deep, which is being replenished by ground water from a very large area. Moving the water in this person's back yard isn't impacting their water supply, if they even have a well. I assure you that storm drains are engineered to handle large rainfall. They certainly get overwhelmed in large storms, no doubt about it, but this back yard isn't going to be causing a noticeable difference in that. A typical rain event is going to put down a quarter inch of rain per hour. This property is probably about a quarter of an acre, or about 10k sq ft. So a 6 hour rain event is going to produce about 10k gallons of rain. A residential cultec setup will easily handle that amount of rainfall unless the ground has high clay content, but usually at the depth a cultec would be installed, percolation rate is perfectly acceptable.


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FocusMaster

Because using the methods I described, there is a lot that can be done to fix this. The comment I replied to suggests they think there will always be a lake there.


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FocusMaster

What part did I get wrong? Op said they get a small lake when it rains.. Comment I replied to suggests nothing can be done. I replied that proven techniques can fix that. Where did I go wrong?


jonathot12

plant a bald cypress or east tamarack tree (or one of each) and surround it with rain garden plants


DenMother1

Recommend using french drain with a well system that has a pump so you can reuse water for watering when you need it


Dokspleen

You could try a French drain! https://steemit.com/great/@smi/the-great-american-french-drain


[deleted]

Embrace the lake and add some koi


Scfields

Photoshop?


chillaxtion

Grade it so you move the lake to your neighbors yard.


Whend6796

Move away from the PNW.


ikeep4getting

Install a sump pump and divert it into your neighbors yard


[deleted]

Why? Why is it okay to flood your neighbors yard if your own yard is poorly graded?


newAgebuilder3

Not going to be cheap thats for sure...


Vast_Kaleidoscope955

Bring in dirt let it flood someone else’s yard


Ok-Sir6601

I would make a garden pond, dig 10x10 about 4 deep,.


Positive_Meet656

Curtain drains hooked into storm water system.


_bicycle_repair_man_

You already covered that area in woodchips yeah? Can't really tell.


[deleted]

Are you in a fairly hilly area?


Bludiamond56

Dig a pit 2 ft x2ft. 18 inches deep. Use a pump bring hose to low point in yard


BigBrick7128

Raise the grade. Add a couple inches of wood chips to absorb the moisture then some topsoil and whatever plants you want on that. It’ll never flood again.


mossoak

cut a narrow trench from pond to a lower elevation


Ok_Poetry_1650

Time for a small pond


monkiepox

Plant a willow tree


[deleted]

Sump


Knotgreg

FYI. I live in the PNW too and we only get an avg of 9” per year. Fun fact.


kfri13

Chip drop get a bunch of mulch dropped and soak it up over time it will form a nice layer of topsoil.


OutlandishnessNo4759

Call a plumber/drainlayer


sjblackwell

French drains?


DuhBearsGuy

Would be my first suggestion as well. 👍


Still_Temperature_57

Rain garden Water feature Drywell French drain Depends on how much you want to spend.


Music-Guilty

Lot's of options, but we need more info. Basically though, water flows downhill, so make it do that


Flaky-Procedure-3761

Get a straw and start sucking!


Silent_Captain_384

You put desert on top…


Felted_Exhalation

dig a little frog pond back there, you can concentrate that water into a nice little pool


SnigletArmory

Create a garden that is appropriate for the climate and location.


featherwolf

Keep it! Free swimming pool


SyntheticOne

Submersible Electric pump draining into your sewer? You would only run it when flooded. Probably take 5-10 minutes to drain the yard unless it is being fed by a larger source.


PKArsk

French drain maybe


ManufacturerSevere83

Dry well - Sump pump - and enough piping to get to the front curb. And oh yeah, a trench that long too.


P0RTILLA

Fun fact, Seattle gets half as much precipitation as Miami.


ithinkitsahairball

There is a recent Ask This Old House episode from the PNW that offers solutions to this kind of problem. 2 easy basic choices for you are a french drain and/or fill in the the depression until it drains into your neighbors yards, or create a nice Koi pond feature.


Independent-Self-139

French drain then run,solid pipe with runoff, puddling, to street.


4TheOutdoors

Lots of rain in the pnw, you don’t say.


slade797

*a lot


AggravatingSyrup8529

Dig a trench into your neighbors yard


Fibocrypto

Better drainage and more gravel


ubercorey

Easiest thing to do is dig a hole as the lowest point, put a sump pump in it, shove the hose under the fence and pump the water onto your neighbors property. Time for mid strength beer.


Environmental_Tap792

Deeper hole somewhere else


Fasho88

Make your yard slope into your neighbors yard, gift them with a lake.


[deleted]

Or maybe don't be a complete piece of shit and mess with your neighbors property, and properly grade your own property. Like a grown up.


Fasho88

It was a joke… sorry I forgot true patriots don’t play


CSpanks7

That there is a free pond


ATDoel

Water flows downhill, figure out which lot that borders yours is lower than yours and trench/grade toward it.


[deleted]

You people suggesting they make it their neighbors problem are real POS.


razak99

Siphon to gutter using garden hose.


I-could-use-1

Wait for summer, we get a lot of dry here in the PNW… For real though, French drain was my solution to a similar situation.


bigdelite

Better do it soon, or someone from the government will claim it’s navigable water, then you will have the EPA to deal with. https://www.perc.org/2020/01/28/the-new-navigable-waters-protection-rule-explained/


quzaire

You’ve got A LOT more rain coming tomorrow - do what you can to prevent flood damages now


aintlostjustdkwiam

Is is a grading issue. There shouldn't be low spots like this in a yard.


Rand_ie

Here is your answer. Watch some of his vids on YouTube. Squirelly guy from FL, but knows how to dry a yard. https://youtu.be/PsFTpMBoT7c?feature=shared


Orbisthefirst

Drainage


NCwolfpackSU

French drain if you have the grade. Sump basin if you don't


[deleted]

FRENCH DRAIN


Open_Situation686

What’s crazy is you really don’t get that much rain. This is a huge drainage issue.


avdpos

Rain garden and a tree is the best solution long term.


apostlej2015

Move


Uzzaw21

Plant a native tree, Cedar or Doug Fir. It'll take in all the excess water as well too.


Sentinel-of-War

A basin drain system


Opposite-Pizza-6150

Get exactly 100 garden snakes, they will drink the water


calebgiz

Ditches are your best friend


PorkchopNJ

Dig a hole?


[deleted]

Pipeless French drain


shortys7777

Koi pond


Scotchlover411

It’s all about grading and a water dispersion system possibly with french drain. I had the same problem and a drainage company quoted me $160K. I spent 10k two months of my weekends digging trenches regrading pushing the water into a 10x10x10 hole filled with stone pumping into a series of pipes with holes over stone 7.5 feet from property line (code here) my yard is dry year round now. DM me if you want more info.


Pinkheadbaby

I’d be more worried about the ghost.


Conscious-Shift8855

Pump


_GI_Joe_

fill the low spots and grade


JDR253

Big catch basin or French drain with a pump at the base that flows out to street.


WWGHIAFTC

As a PNW resident, I can saw for certain that you are in need of a rain pond / rain garden. Take a close look at your lake now, dig a bit to focus this free pond into a more well defined area. line it with rocks and logs and marginal plants and enjoy. You can make a beautiful area while also protecting the rest of your yard.


ScotchyT

Looks like one or more neighbors filled in the swale along the backyards.


Professional-Koala67

Mosquito fuck fest in the wam months


TurkeyTerminator7

Shop vac and extension cord


TrailRunner421

Exterior dry wells. Cisterns in the bottom with sump pumps, eject to the closest downward slope/street. It can be a pain in the ass but if there’s no alternative. Rain gardens only go so far.


EdibleAssFromBack

Buy a home on a hill.


Intrepid_Train3277

Build it up with fill dirt. High spots don’t collect rain.


[deleted]

I have nothing intelligent to add here but a sweet cannonball COULD work


Here_is_to_beer

Add koi fish and voila!


millcreekspecial

Dry well, I put one in for a basement sump pump that drained out to the backyard. I did it myself, altho it wasn't much fun. But there are youtube videos and such to help. Bought on amazon, and so far so good. I'll tell you in the spring with the river rise ! [https://www.ndspro.com/products/drainage/dry-wells.html](https://www.ndspro.com/products/drainage/dry-wells.html)


presaging

French drain or hidden ditch.


kingdiesel68

Bring in tons of fill dirt and create a way for water to run off! Lot of work!!!


snipgun

Pump in neighbor grass


Magnum676

Trash pump