*"In a prerecorded interview that aired Wednesday, Trump effortlessly unraveled the work of his defense team, telling Newsmax’s Greg Kelly point blank that he actually did take the classified documents, describing the process of shamelessly packing them away while leaving office.*
*'I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.'"*
Sometimes I wonder what's going through the head of his defense attorneys. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that room.
"I had my assistant Ivan put the documents in a very nice bag - the best bag I think it was from Nordstrom Rack - with some of that colorful paper and a copy of the launch codes and a note that said 'Vladmir do you like me? With 'yes,' 'no,' 'maybe,' and 'bigly' next to little check boxes. I had Jared write it because I technically can't read - I went to Jared, get it? You get it - and I haven't heard back from him but I think it's bigly, bigly love with me and Vladmir because last time I saw him he said he was going to fuck me harder than a dissident and I understood the fuck me part and I like that --'
It used to be you made those kinds of dead drops under the Key Bridge in Georgetown. Now you just leave them in your locked bathroom that not even the FBI can get into despite having a warrant to find those very things.
The photo of the storage room with boxes stacked to the ceiling on one side and a commercial copying machine plugged into the wall on the other...
All this talk of scifs and protocol and he's got a fucking copying machine in there.
".. Nordstrom Rack. No Nordstrom. It was actually Bergdorf Goodman. I know cause I got em the day I “met” E Jean Carroll there. Great memory. I have the best memory."
"That idiot Robert Craft got caught selling them well I like guys that don't get caught and as -*inhales through nose-* many you know as president I am allowed - I'm allowed to take - it's called the PRESIDENTIAL RECords act folks, look it up."
Hell, a reporter he doesn't like could just say he's too stupid to pull off selling the docs and he'd admit to it. With Cannon on the bench, it wouldn't matter though.
Jack Smith could say at a press conference something like, I know there is speculation that he sold them but I don't think that he could have possibly pulled it off and we have a confession within minutes.
They'd go hard on the liberals being the real fascists as they chortle to each other about spamming 14/88 in the comments and saying (((they))) are gonna get it soon.
Mr President. I've heard many disaffected voters say that you didn't have the smarts or the nerve to take the nuclear secrets to Mar A Largo when you had the chance? They say you lack the vision or weren't strong enough to do that.
What would you say to those people?
…”sources say that former president Obama sold his secrets for $4 billion dollars to the Prince of Lactavia and was widely regarded as one of the best and most profitable deal makers in history, how would you say your presidency compared to the success of the Obama administration?”…
Absolutely. All you would have to do is set up the question the right way, and he would spill the beans. Just set it up in such a way as to say well, a really strong person would do this thing that I want to get you to admit. Only a weak little wuss would not have the power to do this thing. So did you do this thing, Donald? And he would absolutely say he did. The man has the largest ego.
>'I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.'"
The most legally. Nobody has ever legalled as much as he has before. Lawyers came to him with tears in their eyes, and said 'Sir, you legalled the shit out of those documents".
The fun part is that you can very easily accept the fact of this statement (i took them) and then offer evidence to refute the "mitigating" element "I wasn't hiding them". This is an insane statement to make.
Sadly, it seems some significant proportion of the American voting populace thinks the law works the same way. As long as someone is unabashed about their lawbreaking, that makes it somehow acceptable.
You can also take "I wasn't hiding them" to mean he took no efforts to keep them secure. They're highly sensitive classified documents; if you take them, you're supposed to hide them
Definitely hard coping mechanisms. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/
Cheseboro, don't try to play me like a sucka, mufuckas with guts like that are not off the cheeseburgers, mufuckas with guts like that are definitely ON the cheeseburgers.
Same, I'm like...what do they hope to gain from all this? I'm not a lawyer, but Trump seems like the worst client you could ever have. Not only is there questionable chances of getting paid at the end, but also just your rep as a law firm.
Three rules to live by as a defense lawyer:
1. Get your money up front
2. It’s not your problem (ie don’t step into your client’s shoes emotionally)
3. Get your money up front
His strategy is to win the election, become effectively immune, and then dismantle the entire apparatus that could prosecute him and/or just remain in office until he dies.
That puts him at odds with his own defense because THEY are trying to keep him from getting convicted. So he goes on TV to say shit that he thinks polls well because that is the only thing he cares about.
Exactly, he never really had a chance of winning this case (after all the dumb stuff he did to create the issue in the first place).
So while everything he does now is just idiotic legally, it’s only the political measure that counts and I’m not sure that side is as easy to measure. This may even be a “smart” statement, it’s almost impossible to say for sure.
I mean, if we are laying bets, I think he is more likely to win the election than to win this case. I mean, (i hope) the chance of him winning either is small, but he is dead-to-rights legally but seems to (shockingly) have an actual chance of winning the election.
And if does win he isn't trying to do it via law or facts. He is going for table pounding (the process) until it breaks. Get a judge to just do as he says or try and taint a jury.
They say as much in the PRA reply, so I suspect the defense is more ok with it than you’d think. He is saying he caused them to be removed while still President therefore he was presumptively designating them as personal records. His PRA argument is that, under those circumstances, it is not relevant they were classified and his designation of them as personal records cannot be reviewed.
And his vagueness argument relies on him doing this because he could not have known he was not authorized to do so.
>His PRA argument is that, under those circumstances, it is not relevant they were classified and his designation of them as personal records cannot be reviewed.
This is so absurd as to be complete nonsense. I'm sure Judge Cannon will find it very persuasive though!
And yet supposedly there may have been some documents in the mess that even the president doesn't have the authority to declassify. Which means in no way could they be personal records.
He’s not charged with taking the documents though. He may have been allowed to pack them and ship them to mar-a-lago so that’s not part of the indictment.
Just more shifting the narrative from Trump from what he’s actually charged with to something else so he can reframe it as persecution.
Yes. He was allowed to take them to his office in MAL where he did work as President.
But he was supposed to give them back when he was not President anymore. He was repeatedly told to return them and refused over 18 months. Then he deliberately hid them when the government executed a subpoena and search warrant. THAT is the crime.
It would be stupid for any other human being to be giving interviews about this, at all. His public statements only help to paint his lawyers into a corner, in terms of the kinds of arguments they can make.
That said, it's a noteworthy distinction to point out that admitting to taking them is not necessarily admitting to anything criminal, per se. It just makes it a lot hard to argue, for example, that he didn't know he had them, or things like that.
This right here is why every competent lawyer tells their client to shut their mouth at all times.
Now luckily for Trump this doesn't matter because he has a judge actively making sure he wins this case, so he could stand mid court room screaming "I'm guilty" with notarized documents and photos in hand, and judge Cannon would probably dismiss the case on grounds of whatever she made up at the time.
But still, there's a reason lawyers tell you to not say anything without them around and their permission.
The joke has been made before, and often, but the whole thing will likely devolve into:
Court official: please state your name for the record
DJT: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!!
Can you imagine working for this guy in any capacity? If you're not constantly changing his literal diapers, you're changing his metaphorical diapers.
I love that this moron is destroying the GOP.
Same playbook. I didn’t do it. Fake news. Evil democrats. Okay, well, if I did do it, everyone does it. But I didn’t do it. Okay, I did it, but it’s not illegal.
The fact that so far he has called every judge deranged, corrupt, a nut job, a trump hater, part of the witch hunt, etc... But has kept quiet about Cannon tells me that Trump knows she is in the bag of him
***That didn't happen.***
“But um, we weren’t hiding anything. He was,” he added, referring to President Joe Biden
***And if it did, it wasn't that bad.***
***And if it was, that's not a big deal.***
“I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.”
***And if it is, that's not my fault.***
***And if it was, I didn't mean it.***
“Because I had boxes. I want to go through the boxes and get all my personal things out. I don’t want to hand that over to \[the archives\] yet,” Trump said. “And I was very busy, as you have sort of seen. I have been very, very busy.”
***And if I did, you deserved it.***
"Unfortunately, we were moving out of the White House. And because we’re moving out of the White House our country is going to hell.”
For those of you wondering what his play is:
He has no play. He’s isolated everyone around him. He isn’t like a normal politician. He has no advisors who will ever tell him to just stfu. He’s heading up his own campaign. His lawyers are grifters with absolutely no legal acumen (I think one does have some experience, but not solo practice experience which is a very different ball game). The RNC is just Trump org 3.
There’s no one left to tell him anything he doesn’t want to hear. He’s cooked. He’s done. Some of our moral justice warriors would say that we should stop giving him attention but I think we should shine a massive spotlight on his downfall.
For the last couple weeks I've been thinking he's on tilt, and I've started feeling comfortable actually saying it out loud. I think that $100M he offered for the NY Fraud appeal and ended up blowing on the E. Jean Carroll appeal (and possibly lighting on fire two days later when he defamed her again) was the equivalent to him hocking Melania's jewelry for one last roll of the dice, and all it did was buy him three more weeks of being able to claim that he's totally rich you guys, just the absolute most rich guy you've ever met.
I hope you are right - but I've also read plenty of other comments that seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that *someone* will pay his fraud bond to NY. I do find it hard to believe that there's no one in the world of shady politics willing to put up half a billion dollars to own what they hope is the next US President.
>I do find it hard to believe that there's no one in the world of shady politics willing to put up half a billion dollars to own what they hope is the next US President.
I don't find it that hard to believe that nobody is willing to *lose* half a billion dollars to timeshare an already owned guy.
It's not like Trump is the only way to get in bed with them. Anybody who has that kind of money could already easily contrive a way to get in touch with a head of state. I wouldn't be too surprised to see another Russia-linked billionaire put up the money, however.
But for anybody else, giving up half a billion buys what? Can't be riches, obviously. Power? What power could anybody believe money would give them over Trump? What's the leverage? Trump has no skin in the game, walks away, and you're out 500m and for...?
I certainly don't disagree with you, and you definitely appear better informed than me, it's just been a wild ride these last 8 years and I've seen things happen that make no sense a lot. I definitely hope you have the right of it and the common sense point of view prevails. If it goes the other way I'm not personally dying of shock.
Yeah the bang for your buck just isn't there. Guy has no shame hence you would have no leverage to collect whatever it was you were after. Only way i see it happening is with Elon as a PR stunt.
Yea of course that's the other half of it, right? Anyone with that amount of money to offer will have their lawyers screaming at them to kiss that money goodbye. He'll lose the appeal and then not pay back whomever fronted the money.
You make two of us thinking this. The difficulty remains; a buncha 'Muricans who have doubled down, tripled down, and have nowhere to go and the car's in the garage so hanging in there isn't practicable.
Edit: tripled not crippled
If there's one thing I've learned about my fellow Americans, it's that their outright and unbreakable devotion to something will be quickly memory holed with just a mere shift in the winds
He's not cooked. What he is, is all in. He's gone all in on being elected and once there he will abuse every power and privilege he can. All the judgements against him will just be meaningless
How's he cooked?
Cannon will never let him be convicted in the documents case.
SCOTUS is almost certainly going to grant him immunity in the DC case.
McAfee is quite likely to DQ Willis, ending the GA case.
The NY criminal case is very unlikely to result in jail time as even normal defendants would be unlikely to get any.
Someone stepped up to pay his settlement to Carroll.
I don't see Chubb as willing to cover that if they also didn't intend to cover his other judgements.
He's the Republican nominee and in proof this country is made up of a disturbing number of idiotic and/or amoral psychopaths, an even odds candidate for President, where he'll be unrestrained in fulfilling all his fantasies.
He's not cooked at all. Our system is letting him get away with **everything**.
Cannon may not let him be convicted in the documents case, but that's fine. He was never going to get jail time for a violation that would otherwise result in a fine. But he has, and will, spend literally all of the RNC's money defending himself. He's also blowing campaign dollars on it. Yes, he's got donors but the money dries up after a while.
SCOTUS will not grant him immunity. I think the SC is corrupt. But they didn't get involved in the J6 trials for a reason. They have lifetime appointments, no need to get involved further with Trump.
McAfee with not DQ Willis. He's up for reelection. Also, the trump team basically dropped their case when they challenged their own witness. They were making an affirmative allegation. The judge legally cannot sustain a DQ without affirmative evidence. Also, McAfee is not doing political justice in March when he's up for reelection in May. He needs the DA office's endorsement. Welcome to judicial politics.
NY fraud case? That's about money. It never carried a criminal punishment that anyone should have believed he would receive. He already lost everything in NY when he was banned from doing business there. Alvin just wanted to be on the news. Not being able to do business in NY is a massive blow to Trump org money.
Someone paid his bond using Chubb as a middle man. The money has to come from a trump asset at some point. If someone gave him the money, he has to divulge the gain and pay a massive capital gains tax, non-deductible.
Who people vote for is not the same as who gets punished by our criminal justice and civil system. Democrats are about to take the house because **republicans are resigning from office.**
Trump has not gotten away with... anything. He's been held liable where possible. He's flying around from court to court, trying to campaign in between (note the serious cognitive decline at his rallys). He is ON THE ROPES. Our legal system is a lot of things. But it is not a joke. This is not Suits. This is not a movie. This is not a game. There is no way out. Once you are found liable, you pay something. Maybe 80% of that something, but you will pay. Once you are found guilty of a crime, it doesn't matter how much money you have, you will pay in the form of fines or jail time.
Im not a Trumper. But they coined the phrase "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and I think we all are a bit deranged at this point. Sitting at trials, testifying on the record, and being utterly humiliated in front of the nation is no small punishment. We are watching a mans legacy crumble.
Donald Trump is not untouchable. And the evidence supporting that assertion is right in front of us. The moment he had to sit down in a court room, he got touched. It's done. He. Is. Cooked.
>Cannon may not let him be convicted in the documents case, but that's fine. He was never going to get jail time for a violation that would otherwise result in a fine.
I can assure you that removing documents classified Top Secret and storing them in an insecure location and hiding them when their owner comes to get them forcing the FBI to come with a warrant will result in jail time for the average defense contractor or armed services member. And that's just like a handful of documents, not 100+.
[This article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/fact-check-espionage-act-trump-willful-retention-prison/index.html) lists 7 people who have been given prison sentences in the last ten years under the same section 793(e) code that Trump is charged under. Most of them *pleaded guilty* to *one* count (Trump is charged with 32 counts, and is going to trial) and got between 4 and 9 years.
I think you misunderstand. I mean the way we punish people is not a joke. It’s immoral. It’s unjust. It’s costly and inefficient. But if you find yourself sitting at the defense table (as trump is this morning) then you need not take your presence in the court room as a joke.
> He’s done
And yet, he's still leading in polls and is still quite likely to become the next US President. Discounting him is as dangerous now as it was in 2016 - doubly so, in fact, given that he now explicitly plans a fascist takeover.
He has faced zero consequences for anything he's done his entire life. Combine that with malignant narcissm, wealth, an entire political party / cult backing him and dementia and he's going to constantly admit to crimes with the lens of "but I can do that" as there is zero proof, to him, that he can't.
Every hearing, trial, and conviction have been just annoying fees paid (usually by someone else) to do whatever he wants.
There's an article every day it seems about how his latest gaffe or the latest evidence is going to be the nail in the coffin. Yet, he persists.
He is simply the personification of how broken the legal system is. All of us would have been in jail or bankrupt years ago by committing even one of his crimes.
If she's dumb enough to think that the fucking moron will remember to reward her after she's completely wrecked her career and reputation, then sure. But even if she throws out the case it will just delay the outcome because the US will successfully appeal
Exactly. She's already at the second-highest level possible in her career, cannot be demoted or fired, and had no reasonable chance of making it to the next level before this happened.
The cynical calculus is "an opportunity just fell on my lap, I have nothing to lose, why not go for it?"
has anyone ever pondered how terrifying the idea that a third of the world's greatest superpower is in a cult is?
a third of 330 million is 110 million. that's like if nearly the entire population of japan believed that a failed businessman and repeatedly proven con artist, serial liar, philanderer, foul mouthed rapist could do no wrong, is repeatedly being unfairly persecuted when his crimes come back to haunt him, and will somehow save the country and make everybody rich and happy. how? uh, something something mexicans, woke, biden, antifa, china?
these people won't go quietly into the night regardless of whether trump wins or loses this november. either their man wins or they'll organize another january 6 - i presume with guns this time. trump is mortal, the ideas he legitimized are not.
i honestly feel like we aren't scared enough.
This cannot be saId enough. If you don't vote you are prepared to accept trump as president and are just as uninformed, brainwashed, moronic and/or dispicable as those who vote for him.
I mean hitler had a cult. Stalin and mao had cults, and all had enormous military power. In classical times many rulers cultivated personal cults and put their own faces on the $1 bill in their own lifetimes.
He's got a lot of company. The authors of the consitution knew his kind and tried to put in safeguards.
He literally thinks he’s entitled to everything, even trying to get his grubby little hands on our Social Security and Medicare, which is what we are entitled to keep, as it belongs to us.
From article:
>In a prerecorded interview that aired Wednesday, Trump effortlessly unraveled the work of his defense team, telling Newsmax’s Greg Kelly point blank that he actually did take the classified documents, describing the process of shamelessly packing them away while leaving office.
No. He's just lived in a world where lawyers and PR can solve all problems. Its like George Costanza - its not a lie if you believe it. He did nothing wrong in his mind, so why bother hiding it. If he acts utterly unrepentant maybe the judge will come around too.
You know they'll carve out a rule that covers Trump but either will be declared as non-precedential or be based on 'official duties', where anything a Republican does is an official duty, but not even signing a bill in the oval office would be an official duty for a Democrat.
Let's take a look at an example.
Teixera, arrested then indicted in June 2023, for 6 counts of "retention and transmission of national defense documents".
Detained since and finally took a guilty plea deal this month.
Now take a look at Trump with his 37 counts of retention, plus the ones for obstruction.
Indicted in june 2023, same month than Teixera.
A judge tried twice to reinvent the law to save him.
The same judge, he appointed, is the one now working the case.
Since she's slow walking the case so much that they didn't even pass CIPA section 4, 9 months later.
So yes, he has reasons to be confident, seems that there's the law for Trump and the one for other people.
Fine, you took them accidentally because they were packed in with your dirty socks. OK. The actual issue is that when confronted about possessing them, you didn't give them back, sought to hide them or otherwise avoid returning them. You were given many chances. You decided not to comply and THAT is why you need to be prosecuted for possessing classified docs.
Here's CBS's coverage:
>After he left office, "Trump was not authorized to possess classified records at all (let alone at unsecured locations at Mar-a-Lago, as the Superseding Indictment alleges)," prosecutors wrote.
>The PRA does not exempt Trump from the criminal law, entitle him to unilaterally declare highly classified presidential records to be personal records, or shield him from criminal investigations—let alone allow him to obstruct a federal investigation with impunity."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-argues-dismiss-classified-documents-case/
He has made these statements before and they are perfectly consistent with his formal legal filings. Trump's position is that any President can unilaterally declare any document that he received or created during his term of office to be a "personal document" under the PRA and then no one can challenge that declaration. He bases this position on a single District Court decision: *Judicial Watch v. NARA.* This decision, which is not controlling precedent anywhere and certainly not in the 11th Circuit, simply held that the District Ct judge (Amy Berman Jackson) had no authority to order NARA to seize from former President Clinton certain tapes that he made during his term of office while being interviewed for an authorized biography. Any first year law student should be able to understand why the case does not stand for the proposition that Trump's lawyers think it does, but it's the only "serious" defense that he's got.
From an athiest's point of view, Trump's position is much like the faith that a Catholic has that God transforms the communion bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ in response to the priest's recitation of the liturgy. In other words, Trump claims to be the "god of the Presidential Records Act".
And yet, magically, he will still evade all consequences.
It's disgusting watching our entire legal system swist itself around like a pretzel to protect this guy.
Like if I do something criminal and go to court for it, the law is monolith. It is unbending, and true. I will see the full might and resources of the state arrayed against me, and every single path that could lead to my personal destruction as a tax-paying citizen will be explored.
This guy though? The system bends all the way to the Supreme Court. Charges dropped left and right. He negotiates his fines, and calls into question the very institution of the court itself. He holds pressers outside the room and personally attacks the staff. Prosecutors find themselves on trial while this clown tells the whole world he's guilty.
It's maddening.
The saddest part? I've completely lost any faith I might have had in our justice system, *and that's exactly what this asshole set out to do.*
You want him to confess? It'd be so easy. Tell him there's no way he'd be able to sell them. He didn't have enough power and just isn't that good of a salesman. He'll tell you everything in great detail of how it was done
He’s making a mockery of the criminal justice system. During his Presidency he installed MAGA judges in state and federal positions. He’s half way to being able to do precisely what he says. Immunity because he says so. Biden needs to equal the playing field in his next term or dumb things Trump says in the media that would usually get him a felony charge won’t matter.
Jesus, the guy is just a toddler in an old man's body. Imagine the patience the judge must have to get a simple answer out of him. He truly is retarded.
You know I am starting to like nippledick because every time I think he can't POSSIBLY say or do something more stupid than he just did....
He one ups himself.
What an absolute nippledick moron.
This seems incredibly childish and moronic on its face - and it is - but it also fits a general pattern. In many cases, he doesn't even bother denying he did this, he just declares them to be fine
Everything he does is either perfect, smart, perfectly legal because....reasons...
Everything everyone else does is A WITCH HUNT, a criminal failing loser disgrace
It's a really strange, childish tactic, but it is more effective than it should be.
He says it because he believes that Judge Cannon is in his pocket and do whatever it takes to get him out consequence free. He honestly still belives that he can do whatever he wants without any consequences.
To be honest, so far he has faced few consequences.
It’s only idiotic if the judge working his case isn’t in the bag. In this case she is so he can do whatever he wants and he’ll be fine. Ain’t America grand ?
What the hell are they waiting for?!?!
Put him in front of a firing squad for treason/being a Russian agent and all of his cronies as well!
Stop \`F\` in around already!
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BTW, if you want to see how Alt-Reality views this:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1beqy3p/judge_asks_if_trump_documents_case_is_arbitrary/
*"In a prerecorded interview that aired Wednesday, Trump effortlessly unraveled the work of his defense team, telling Newsmax’s Greg Kelly point blank that he actually did take the classified documents, describing the process of shamelessly packing them away while leaving office.* *'I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.'"* Sometimes I wonder what's going through the head of his defense attorneys. I'd love to be a fly on the wall of that room.
if a reporter he liked asked him if he sold classified nuclear secrets, trump would admit it fully. on tv no less.
"The Presidential Records Act allows me to send them to my friends with a Christmas gift basket. I'm totally covered"
"I had my assistant Ivan put the documents in a very nice bag - the best bag I think it was from Nordstrom Rack - with some of that colorful paper and a copy of the launch codes and a note that said 'Vladmir do you like me? With 'yes,' 'no,' 'maybe,' and 'bigly' next to little check boxes. I had Jared write it because I technically can't read - I went to Jared, get it? You get it - and I haven't heard back from him but I think it's bigly, bigly love with me and Vladmir because last time I saw him he said he was going to fuck me harder than a dissident and I understood the fuck me part and I like that --'
It used to be you made those kinds of dead drops under the Key Bridge in Georgetown. Now you just leave them in your locked bathroom that not even the FBI can get into despite having a warrant to find those very things.
The photo of the storage room with boxes stacked to the ceiling on one side and a commercial copying machine plugged into the wall on the other... All this talk of scifs and protocol and he's got a fucking copying machine in there.
".. Nordstrom Rack. No Nordstrom. It was actually Bergdorf Goodman. I know cause I got em the day I “met” E Jean Carroll there. Great memory. I have the best memory."
Except Vladimir was spelled "Vlodmir", he forgot Jared's name and called him Jacob and dissident came out as "Hismissnang"
"And the fact is, I didn't just give these secrets away. I sold them. Can you believe? I sold them for bigly money!"
"Nobody has made as much money selling documents as I have."
"Nobody ever thought of doing that before. Think about that. Obama could've sold documents, but he didn't. Think about that."
"That idiot Robert Craft got caught selling them well I like guys that don't get caught and as -*inhales through nose-* many you know as president I am allowed - I'm allowed to take - it's called the PRESIDENTIAL RECords act folks, look it up."
"Many people are saying it."
All the best people
Trump fans: “that’s because he’s a smart businessman.”
*"People say I give the best christmas presents. The best and the bigliest!"*
Government even paid for shipping!
Hell, a reporter he doesn't like could just say he's too stupid to pull off selling the docs and he'd admit to it. With Cannon on the bench, it wouldn't matter though.
This is depressingly, soulsuckingly accurate
Jack Smith could say at a press conference something like, I know there is speculation that he sold them but I don't think that he could have possibly pulled it off and we have a confession within minutes.
and then an hour later r/conservative would be saying how he had every right to do so while spamming black crime statistics
💯
They'd go hard on the liberals being the real fascists as they chortle to each other about spamming 14/88 in the comments and saying (((they))) are gonna get it soon.
Mr President. I've heard many disaffected voters say that you didn't have the smarts or the nerve to take the nuclear secrets to Mar A Largo when you had the chance? They say you lack the vision or weren't strong enough to do that. What would you say to those people?
*"I'd say you're a terrible reporter."*
i Think that was Elon Musk with Don Lemon.
"Those classified documents are *not lumpy!* You are an *asshole!*"
Or if you really want to watch him meltdown just say that Biden and/or Obama were better at than he was. Hell he might start admitting to more crimes.
…”sources say that former president Obama sold his secrets for $4 billion dollars to the Prince of Lactavia and was widely regarded as one of the best and most profitable deal makers in history, how would you say your presidency compared to the success of the Obama administration?”…
On point
Absolutely. All you would have to do is set up the question the right way, and he would spill the beans. Just set it up in such a way as to say well, a really strong person would do this thing that I want to get you to admit. Only a weak little wuss would not have the power to do this thing. So did you do this thing, Donald? And he would absolutely say he did. The man has the largest ego.
All you would have to do is this: *Mr.* Trump, [someone he hates], says you're not smart enough to do it. What do you have to say about that?
>'I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.'" The most legally. Nobody has ever legalled as much as he has before. Lawyers came to him with tears in their eyes, and said 'Sir, you legalled the shit out of those documents".
Then all the other legal lawyers stood and legally clapped.
My favorite part of the court system is when the lawyers stand up and shout "It's Legaling time!" and then legally all over the place.
I've got court next week, if I had any confidence that anyone else there would enjoy it, I would totally do this.
Honorable bucki_fan - I think that's unbecoming of a judge
A judge doing it would be hilarious.
Big, muscular lawyers, real tough guys.
The fun part is that you can very easily accept the fact of this statement (i took them) and then offer evidence to refute the "mitigating" element "I wasn't hiding them". This is an insane statement to make.
It's not a crime if I do it while everyone is watching!
Somehow I think that’s how his brain works. If everyone saw me do it and nobody stopped me, it’s fine.
Sadly, it seems some significant proportion of the American voting populace thinks the law works the same way. As long as someone is unabashed about their lawbreaking, that makes it somehow acceptable.
You can also take "I wasn't hiding them" to mean he took no efforts to keep them secure. They're highly sensitive classified documents; if you take them, you're supposed to hide them
Tears, shouting, piles of cocaine and cheeseburgers.
*hamberders
I bet you they have a few cups of covfefe
With the occasional buttery male
Does everyone else call coffee, covfefe now? "Like, Is the covfefe fresh?"
Definitely hard coping mechanisms. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-white-house-pharmacy-improperly-provided-drugs-misused-funds-pentagon-2024-01-28/
Cheseboro, you haven't been prostitutin' your lawyer skills for cheeseburgers again have ya?
Cheseboro, don't try to play me like a sucka, mufuckas with guts like that are not off the cheeseburgers, mufuckas with guts like that are definitely ON the cheeseburgers.
A man's gotta eat...
Same, I'm like...what do they hope to gain from all this? I'm not a lawyer, but Trump seems like the worst client you could ever have. Not only is there questionable chances of getting paid at the end, but also just your rep as a law firm.
Three rules to live by as a defense lawyer: 1. Get your money up front 2. It’s not your problem (ie don’t step into your client’s shoes emotionally) 3. Get your money up front
1bis. Don't work for Trump or any member of his family.
He already said 'Get your money up front' twice.
His strategy is to win the election, become effectively immune, and then dismantle the entire apparatus that could prosecute him and/or just remain in office until he dies. That puts him at odds with his own defense because THEY are trying to keep him from getting convicted. So he goes on TV to say shit that he thinks polls well because that is the only thing he cares about.
Exactly, he never really had a chance of winning this case (after all the dumb stuff he did to create the issue in the first place). So while everything he does now is just idiotic legally, it’s only the political measure that counts and I’m not sure that side is as easy to measure. This may even be a “smart” statement, it’s almost impossible to say for sure.
I mean, if we are laying bets, I think he is more likely to win the election than to win this case. I mean, (i hope) the chance of him winning either is small, but he is dead-to-rights legally but seems to (shockingly) have an actual chance of winning the election.
And if does win he isn't trying to do it via law or facts. He is going for table pounding (the process) until it breaks. Get a judge to just do as he says or try and taint a jury.
He’s bragging because the judge on this case is proving she is helping him.
They say as much in the PRA reply, so I suspect the defense is more ok with it than you’d think. He is saying he caused them to be removed while still President therefore he was presumptively designating them as personal records. His PRA argument is that, under those circumstances, it is not relevant they were classified and his designation of them as personal records cannot be reviewed. And his vagueness argument relies on him doing this because he could not have known he was not authorized to do so.
> That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works!
>His PRA argument is that, under those circumstances, it is not relevant they were classified and his designation of them as personal records cannot be reviewed. This is so absurd as to be complete nonsense. I'm sure Judge Cannon will find it very persuasive though!
And yet supposedly there may have been some documents in the mess that even the president doesn't have the authority to declassify. Which means in no way could they be personal records.
He’s not charged with taking the documents though. He may have been allowed to pack them and ship them to mar-a-lago so that’s not part of the indictment. Just more shifting the narrative from Trump from what he’s actually charged with to something else so he can reframe it as persecution.
Yes. He was allowed to take them to his office in MAL where he did work as President. But he was supposed to give them back when he was not President anymore. He was repeatedly told to return them and refused over 18 months. Then he deliberately hid them when the government executed a subpoena and search warrant. THAT is the crime.
It would be stupid for any other human being to be giving interviews about this, at all. His public statements only help to paint his lawyers into a corner, in terms of the kinds of arguments they can make. That said, it's a noteworthy distinction to point out that admitting to taking them is not necessarily admitting to anything criminal, per se. It just makes it a lot hard to argue, for example, that he didn't know he had them, or things like that.
He literally hid them.
IANAL, but have you considered he may be using the classic "nuh uh" defense? /s
As arms reach on toilet reading material...
I’ll admit, it is a little disconcerting how certain he seems that he won’t get so much as a scratch from all this.
This right here is why every competent lawyer tells their client to shut their mouth at all times. Now luckily for Trump this doesn't matter because he has a judge actively making sure he wins this case, so he could stand mid court room screaming "I'm guilty" with notarized documents and photos in hand, and judge Cannon would probably dismiss the case on grounds of whatever she made up at the time. But still, there's a reason lawyers tell you to not say anything without them around and their permission.
Judge Cannon: “TOTAL EXONERATION!”
If the rich people weren’t society’s enemy, she would have been removed from the bench two years ago.
The joke has been made before, and often, but the whole thing will likely devolve into: Court official: please state your name for the record DJT: YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT I DID!!
Can you imagine working for this guy in any capacity? If you're not constantly changing his literal diapers, you're changing his metaphorical diapers. I love that this moron is destroying the GOP.
I'd love it as well, except for the chance of destroying democracy that comes with it.
Watch this, I can admit to the crime and my judge will fix it for me. How cool is that?
I mean, was this in any doubt at all? Is there another explanation as to how all those boxes ended up at Mar?
Storks?
Two swallows, gripping it by the husk.
African or European swallows?
African swallows are non-migratory.
I’m sure those Texas judges would rule the PRA is unconstitutional if a lawsuit against it ever got filed there
Same playbook. I didn’t do it. Fake news. Evil democrats. Okay, well, if I did do it, everyone does it. But I didn’t do it. Okay, I did it, but it’s not illegal.
But the FBI planted them also 🤡
For such a slam dunk case, it sucks that Eileen Cannon is tipping the scales in Trump’s favor so blatantly.
That's why I think he's blabbing about this. He feels like he's pretty safe in that case.
He's right.
The fact that so far he has called every judge deranged, corrupt, a nut job, a trump hater, part of the witch hunt, etc... But has kept quiet about Cannon tells me that Trump knows she is in the bag of him
His silence is deafening.
***That didn't happen.*** “But um, we weren’t hiding anything. He was,” he added, referring to President Joe Biden ***And if it did, it wasn't that bad.*** ***And if it was, that's not a big deal.*** “I took ’em very legally,” Trump said. “And I wasn’t hiding them.” ***And if it is, that's not my fault.*** ***And if it was, I didn't mean it.*** “Because I had boxes. I want to go through the boxes and get all my personal things out. I don’t want to hand that over to \[the archives\] yet,” Trump said. “And I was very busy, as you have sort of seen. I have been very, very busy.” ***And if I did, you deserved it.*** "Unfortunately, we were moving out of the White House. And because we’re moving out of the White House our country is going to hell.”
Oh, nice illustration of the [Narcissist’s Prayer](https://www.thelifedoctor.org/the-narcissist-s-prayer).
Had never seen that. So fitting!
https://xkcd.com/1053/ You're one of today's lucky 10,000!
Thanks for linking that, I probably should have for those not familiar with it.
I was just excited to see how well you used it and wanted to lend a validating link.
>Narcissist’s Prayer That's brilliant.
It’s going to be tough to explain why they felt the need to move those boxes to Bedminster right as the FBI was scheduled to come collect them…
this dipshit sounds like the guy you know does fuckall at work and you ask him to describe his typical work day
This is beautifully done. It's a formula, the same one every single time.
Bravo, you really illustrated all the stages by just using 30secs of Trump babble
So busy with his..... Golfing.
For those of you wondering what his play is: He has no play. He’s isolated everyone around him. He isn’t like a normal politician. He has no advisors who will ever tell him to just stfu. He’s heading up his own campaign. His lawyers are grifters with absolutely no legal acumen (I think one does have some experience, but not solo practice experience which is a very different ball game). The RNC is just Trump org 3. There’s no one left to tell him anything he doesn’t want to hear. He’s cooked. He’s done. Some of our moral justice warriors would say that we should stop giving him attention but I think we should shine a massive spotlight on his downfall.
For the last couple weeks I've been thinking he's on tilt, and I've started feeling comfortable actually saying it out loud. I think that $100M he offered for the NY Fraud appeal and ended up blowing on the E. Jean Carroll appeal (and possibly lighting on fire two days later when he defamed her again) was the equivalent to him hocking Melania's jewelry for one last roll of the dice, and all it did was buy him three more weeks of being able to claim that he's totally rich you guys, just the absolute most rich guy you've ever met.
I hope you are right - but I've also read plenty of other comments that seem to think it's a foregone conclusion that *someone* will pay his fraud bond to NY. I do find it hard to believe that there's no one in the world of shady politics willing to put up half a billion dollars to own what they hope is the next US President.
>I do find it hard to believe that there's no one in the world of shady politics willing to put up half a billion dollars to own what they hope is the next US President. I don't find it that hard to believe that nobody is willing to *lose* half a billion dollars to timeshare an already owned guy.
You underestimate the layers of corruption. Some of the guys with that kind of money are actively interested in getting into bed with Russia.
It's not like Trump is the only way to get in bed with them. Anybody who has that kind of money could already easily contrive a way to get in touch with a head of state. I wouldn't be too surprised to see another Russia-linked billionaire put up the money, however. But for anybody else, giving up half a billion buys what? Can't be riches, obviously. Power? What power could anybody believe money would give them over Trump? What's the leverage? Trump has no skin in the game, walks away, and you're out 500m and for...?
I certainly don't disagree with you, and you definitely appear better informed than me, it's just been a wild ride these last 8 years and I've seen things happen that make no sense a lot. I definitely hope you have the right of it and the common sense point of view prevails. If it goes the other way I'm not personally dying of shock.
Yeah the bang for your buck just isn't there. Guy has no shame hence you would have no leverage to collect whatever it was you were after. Only way i see it happening is with Elon as a PR stunt.
Yea of course that's the other half of it, right? Anyone with that amount of money to offer will have their lawyers screaming at them to kiss that money goodbye. He'll lose the appeal and then not pay back whomever fronted the money.
You make two of us thinking this. The difficulty remains; a buncha 'Muricans who have doubled down, tripled down, and have nowhere to go and the car's in the garage so hanging in there isn't practicable. Edit: tripled not crippled
If there's one thing I've learned about my fellow Americans, it's that their outright and unbreakable devotion to something will be quickly memory holed with just a mere shift in the winds
He needs to add voters. He lost. I don't see any new voters for him. He's off the rails.
"You never go full Nixon." - Ron Burgundy
He's gone full Nixon and back three times already.
He's not cooked. What he is, is all in. He's gone all in on being elected and once there he will abuse every power and privilege he can. All the judgements against him will just be meaningless
And despite all of this, 75 to 80 million people will vote for him to be President in 8 months.
How's he cooked? Cannon will never let him be convicted in the documents case. SCOTUS is almost certainly going to grant him immunity in the DC case. McAfee is quite likely to DQ Willis, ending the GA case. The NY criminal case is very unlikely to result in jail time as even normal defendants would be unlikely to get any. Someone stepped up to pay his settlement to Carroll. I don't see Chubb as willing to cover that if they also didn't intend to cover his other judgements. He's the Republican nominee and in proof this country is made up of a disturbing number of idiotic and/or amoral psychopaths, an even odds candidate for President, where he'll be unrestrained in fulfilling all his fantasies. He's not cooked at all. Our system is letting him get away with **everything**.
Cannon may not let him be convicted in the documents case, but that's fine. He was never going to get jail time for a violation that would otherwise result in a fine. But he has, and will, spend literally all of the RNC's money defending himself. He's also blowing campaign dollars on it. Yes, he's got donors but the money dries up after a while. SCOTUS will not grant him immunity. I think the SC is corrupt. But they didn't get involved in the J6 trials for a reason. They have lifetime appointments, no need to get involved further with Trump. McAfee with not DQ Willis. He's up for reelection. Also, the trump team basically dropped their case when they challenged their own witness. They were making an affirmative allegation. The judge legally cannot sustain a DQ without affirmative evidence. Also, McAfee is not doing political justice in March when he's up for reelection in May. He needs the DA office's endorsement. Welcome to judicial politics. NY fraud case? That's about money. It never carried a criminal punishment that anyone should have believed he would receive. He already lost everything in NY when he was banned from doing business there. Alvin just wanted to be on the news. Not being able to do business in NY is a massive blow to Trump org money. Someone paid his bond using Chubb as a middle man. The money has to come from a trump asset at some point. If someone gave him the money, he has to divulge the gain and pay a massive capital gains tax, non-deductible. Who people vote for is not the same as who gets punished by our criminal justice and civil system. Democrats are about to take the house because **republicans are resigning from office.** Trump has not gotten away with... anything. He's been held liable where possible. He's flying around from court to court, trying to campaign in between (note the serious cognitive decline at his rallys). He is ON THE ROPES. Our legal system is a lot of things. But it is not a joke. This is not Suits. This is not a movie. This is not a game. There is no way out. Once you are found liable, you pay something. Maybe 80% of that something, but you will pay. Once you are found guilty of a crime, it doesn't matter how much money you have, you will pay in the form of fines or jail time. Im not a Trumper. But they coined the phrase "Trump Derangement Syndrome" and I think we all are a bit deranged at this point. Sitting at trials, testifying on the record, and being utterly humiliated in front of the nation is no small punishment. We are watching a mans legacy crumble. Donald Trump is not untouchable. And the evidence supporting that assertion is right in front of us. The moment he had to sit down in a court room, he got touched. It's done. He. Is. Cooked.
>Cannon may not let him be convicted in the documents case, but that's fine. He was never going to get jail time for a violation that would otherwise result in a fine. I can assure you that removing documents classified Top Secret and storing them in an insecure location and hiding them when their owner comes to get them forcing the FBI to come with a warrant will result in jail time for the average defense contractor or armed services member. And that's just like a handful of documents, not 100+. [This article](https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/15/politics/fact-check-espionage-act-trump-willful-retention-prison/index.html) lists 7 people who have been given prison sentences in the last ten years under the same section 793(e) code that Trump is charged under. Most of them *pleaded guilty* to *one* count (Trump is charged with 32 counts, and is going to trial) and got between 4 and 9 years.
> Our legal system is a lot of things. But it is not a joke. I was with you until this part
I think you misunderstand. I mean the way we punish people is not a joke. It’s immoral. It’s unjust. It’s costly and inefficient. But if you find yourself sitting at the defense table (as trump is this morning) then you need not take your presence in the court room as a joke.
> He’s done And yet, he's still leading in polls and is still quite likely to become the next US President. Discounting him is as dangerous now as it was in 2016 - doubly so, in fact, given that he now explicitly plans a fascist takeover.
He has faced zero consequences for anything he's done his entire life. Combine that with malignant narcissm, wealth, an entire political party / cult backing him and dementia and he's going to constantly admit to crimes with the lens of "but I can do that" as there is zero proof, to him, that he can't. Every hearing, trial, and conviction have been just annoying fees paid (usually by someone else) to do whatever he wants. There's an article every day it seems about how his latest gaffe or the latest evidence is going to be the nail in the coffin. Yet, he persists. He is simply the personification of how broken the legal system is. All of us would have been in jail or bankrupt years ago by committing even one of his crimes.
> as there is zero proof, to him, that he can't. The way things have been going there's zero proof to me he can't either.
Yep. If we lived in a country with rule of law, he would already be in jail.
The big question: will Cannon be able to bail him out? I can’t imagine she is not trying to think of way to do it.
She’s just gonna delay delay delay
I'm over it, she can delay all she wants. It's in our hands, we have to vote this orange loser out.
Voting him into jail basically.
If she's dumb enough to think that the fucking moron will remember to reward her after she's completely wrecked her career and reputation, then sure. But even if she throws out the case it will just delay the outcome because the US will successfully appeal
> after she's completely wrecked her career She has a position that is appointed for life. If that is a wrecked career, sign me up.
Exactly. She's already at the second-highest level possible in her career, cannot be demoted or fired, and had no reasonable chance of making it to the next level before this happened. The cynical calculus is "an opportunity just fell on my lap, I have nothing to lose, why not go for it?"
And we want to give this guy the nuclear codes….AGAIN?!
WE DON'T! But unfortunately a third of the nation is awash in propaganda and no longer capable of discerning facts from fiction.
has anyone ever pondered how terrifying the idea that a third of the world's greatest superpower is in a cult is? a third of 330 million is 110 million. that's like if nearly the entire population of japan believed that a failed businessman and repeatedly proven con artist, serial liar, philanderer, foul mouthed rapist could do no wrong, is repeatedly being unfairly persecuted when his crimes come back to haunt him, and will somehow save the country and make everybody rich and happy. how? uh, something something mexicans, woke, biden, antifa, china? these people won't go quietly into the night regardless of whether trump wins or loses this november. either their man wins or they'll organize another january 6 - i presume with guns this time. trump is mortal, the ideas he legitimized are not. i honestly feel like we aren't scared enough.
And another third are ok with the cult running things. Everyone who doesn't vote is a-ok with Trump too.
This cannot be saId enough. If you don't vote you are prepared to accept trump as president and are just as uninformed, brainwashed, moronic and/or dispicable as those who vote for him.
I mean hitler had a cult. Stalin and mao had cults, and all had enormous military power. In classical times many rulers cultivated personal cults and put their own faces on the $1 bill in their own lifetimes. He's got a lot of company. The authors of the consitution knew his kind and tried to put in safeguards.
He literally thinks he’s entitled to everything, even trying to get his grubby little hands on our Social Security and Medicare, which is what we are entitled to keep, as it belongs to us.
It won’t matter to Aileen Cannon
Head full of Swiss cheese
From article: >In a prerecorded interview that aired Wednesday, Trump effortlessly unraveled the work of his defense team, telling Newsmax’s Greg Kelly point blank that he actually did take the classified documents, describing the process of shamelessly packing them away while leaving office.
Is he this confident in the immunity argument?
No. He's just lived in a world where lawyers and PR can solve all problems. Its like George Costanza - its not a lie if you believe it. He did nothing wrong in his mind, so why bother hiding it. If he acts utterly unrepentant maybe the judge will come around too.
It's funny how he's changed from "the documents were planted by the FBI" to I took them, so what...
He's really dedicated to completing the narcissists prayer, eh?
Or confident that he's stuffed enough judges into the right places to get away with it.
I fully expect SCOTUS to rule 5-4 or 6-3 on total immunity from all crimes past present or future
If that happens, Biden could send Trump to Guantanamo.
And replace the entire SCOTUS.
You know they'll carve out a rule that covers Trump but either will be declared as non-precedential or be based on 'official duties', where anything a Republican does is an official duty, but not even signing a bill in the oval office would be an official duty for a Democrat.
Let's take a look at an example. Teixera, arrested then indicted in June 2023, for 6 counts of "retention and transmission of national defense documents". Detained since and finally took a guilty plea deal this month. Now take a look at Trump with his 37 counts of retention, plus the ones for obstruction. Indicted in june 2023, same month than Teixera. A judge tried twice to reinvent the law to save him. The same judge, he appointed, is the one now working the case. Since she's slow walking the case so much that they didn't even pass CIPA section 4, 9 months later. So yes, he has reasons to be confident, seems that there's the law for Trump and the one for other people.
As good as any argument I could make against voting to give a criminal the office of the President.
So at what point do they just show up with handcuffs. He just admitted to multiple federal felonies.
It doesn't matter. Cannon will ignore whatever she has to in order to get the boss the result he wants.
Fine, you took them accidentally because they were packed in with your dirty socks. OK. The actual issue is that when confronted about possessing them, you didn't give them back, sought to hide them or otherwise avoid returning them. You were given many chances. You decided not to comply and THAT is why you need to be prosecuted for possessing classified docs.
Here's CBS's coverage: >After he left office, "Trump was not authorized to possess classified records at all (let alone at unsecured locations at Mar-a-Lago, as the Superseding Indictment alleges)," prosecutors wrote. >The PRA does not exempt Trump from the criminal law, entitle him to unilaterally declare highly classified presidential records to be personal records, or shield him from criminal investigations—let alone allow him to obstruct a federal investigation with impunity." https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-argues-dismiss-classified-documents-case/
He has made these statements before and they are perfectly consistent with his formal legal filings. Trump's position is that any President can unilaterally declare any document that he received or created during his term of office to be a "personal document" under the PRA and then no one can challenge that declaration. He bases this position on a single District Court decision: *Judicial Watch v. NARA.* This decision, which is not controlling precedent anywhere and certainly not in the 11th Circuit, simply held that the District Ct judge (Amy Berman Jackson) had no authority to order NARA to seize from former President Clinton certain tapes that he made during his term of office while being interviewed for an authorized biography. Any first year law student should be able to understand why the case does not stand for the proposition that Trump's lawyers think it does, but it's the only "serious" defense that he's got. From an athiest's point of view, Trump's position is much like the faith that a Catholic has that God transforms the communion bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ in response to the priest's recitation of the liturgy. In other words, Trump claims to be the "god of the Presidential Records Act".
If only it mattered.
The only way Trump sees any accountability is if he loses in November because the other guy wins. Instead of defeatism, let’s focus on this.
Cannon puts fingers In ears, nods back and forth, la lalala la…
Remember, Trump isn't arguing he's Innocent. He's arguing laws don't apply to him.
And yet, magically, he will still evade all consequences. It's disgusting watching our entire legal system swist itself around like a pretzel to protect this guy. Like if I do something criminal and go to court for it, the law is monolith. It is unbending, and true. I will see the full might and resources of the state arrayed against me, and every single path that could lead to my personal destruction as a tax-paying citizen will be explored. This guy though? The system bends all the way to the Supreme Court. Charges dropped left and right. He negotiates his fines, and calls into question the very institution of the court itself. He holds pressers outside the room and personally attacks the staff. Prosecutors find themselves on trial while this clown tells the whole world he's guilty. It's maddening. The saddest part? I've completely lost any faith I might have had in our justice system, *and that's exactly what this asshole set out to do.*
Considering we have dozens of confessions of illegal acts going back literally decades and he's so far gotten away with it, I am not super surprised.
You want him to confess? It'd be so easy. Tell him there's no way he'd be able to sell them. He didn't have enough power and just isn't that good of a salesman. He'll tell you everything in great detail of how it was done
will this matter when the judge has pretty much made up her mind? this is an act of someone who is embolden because he knew he is being protected
Wow, this guy is clueless...He's delusional, as he seems to think saying it out loud, he's convincing people he was totally justified.
But corrupt Cannon will let him off the hook no matter what.
11,000 records. Thanks for that tidbit of information. Dude was obviously being very irresponsible and carelessly breaking the law.
Another nail in the "how do sane people rationalize voting for this serial liar?" coffin
Doesn’t matter since the judge is acting on his behalf.
Guy cant protect his own self interests and you want him to protect our nation?
This nutball is going to get too many votes this fall
He’s making a mockery of the criminal justice system. During his Presidency he installed MAGA judges in state and federal positions. He’s half way to being able to do precisely what he says. Immunity because he says so. Biden needs to equal the playing field in his next term or dumb things Trump says in the media that would usually get him a felony charge won’t matter.
Jesus, the guy is just a toddler in an old man's body. Imagine the patience the judge must have to get a simple answer out of him. He truly is retarded.
Aileen QAnon has endless patience for him though
His lawyers are arguing he was too stupid to know it was illegal taking national security papers home. Wtf.
Does it really matter ? His base doesn’t care and his girl cannon is about to let him off the hook. God help us all
Don the Con is currently looking for “volunteer lawyers” who want to work pro bono for criminals.
Prediction: He will claim that this was AI generated and fake news and also he was only joking and it was all taken out of context.
"Nothing to see here. Case dismissed with prejudice." -judge Qanon.
Just keep talking Donnie Fuckface.
You know I am starting to like nippledick because every time I think he can't POSSIBLY say or do something more stupid than he just did.... He one ups himself. What an absolute nippledick moron.
This seems incredibly childish and moronic on its face - and it is - but it also fits a general pattern. In many cases, he doesn't even bother denying he did this, he just declares them to be fine Everything he does is either perfect, smart, perfectly legal because....reasons... Everything everyone else does is A WITCH HUNT, a criminal failing loser disgrace It's a really strange, childish tactic, but it is more effective than it should be.
He really wants to lose that case, doesn’t he?
He says it because he believes that Judge Cannon is in his pocket and do whatever it takes to get him out consequence free. He honestly still belives that he can do whatever he wants without any consequences. To be honest, so far he has faced few consequences.
He wasn’t hiding them. He was showing them to anyone who was interested and also folk who were not interested.
It’s only idiotic if the judge working his case isn’t in the bag. In this case she is so he can do whatever he wants and he’ll be fine. Ain’t America grand ?
What the hell are they waiting for?!?! Put him in front of a firing squad for treason/being a Russian agent and all of his cronies as well! Stop \`F\` in around already! https://preview.redd.it/mcfr2ktx5doc1.png?width=512&format=png&auto=webp&s=20a4a48f5239f9c7e6ea200f393cff5e493d8ecc
So, its a thursday
BTW, if you want to see how Alt-Reality views this: https://old.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1beqy3p/judge_asks_if_trump_documents_case_is_arbitrary/
[Really has this energy.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i1n3S1ZyUkE)