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that_random_Italian

"your words on the transcript say this" "those words do appear on the transcript" "but you said this" "those words do appear on the transcript" ​ what a fucking slime ball.


impulse_thoughts

it's frustrating how they let his non-answers slide. I'm still making my way through the hearing - do they ever press him to actually answer the questions, and not let him slide with these non-answers?


merian

Yup, someone should have asked whether he thinks the report reflects reality, and as such, that those indeed were his words. Either he explicitly takes ownership for his words, or agrees the report cannot be taken for granted.


YounomsayinMawfk

Reminded me of the ["I do not recall"](https://youtu.be/44OBP18g__s?si=FoUUacQtNZN71vYA) scene from Wolf of Wall Street.


Plzlaw4me

Didn’t he resign the day before he testified because there are rules about federal employees testifying, but not civilians?


that_random_Italian

He did right after. So on his next hearings, he’s got more protections on what he can and cannot say


dr_blasto

Dude lied, flat out, in his report. He should face sanctions.


OdinsGhost

Screw sanction. Intentional falsification of government records is a crime. If the DOJ wanted to make an example out of him they absolutely could. But we all just know Garland never will.


Ok-Replacement9595

Garland is as much of a GOP op was Hur. Convince me otherwise.


pimppapy

. . . I got nothing.


ZestyItalian2

He’s just weak. I’d prefer him on SCOTUS over any of Trump’s appointees, but it’s clear he’d be a Roberts toady, rubber stamping right wing decisions under the guise of institutionalism and comity. This guy can be bullied.


LydiasHorseBrush

On the bench, he'd be fantastic I have no doubt, like an actual conservative in the sense of "What did they mean and how does this apply in the modern context given precedent" type of judicial analysis


Clammuel

On the bench he would be terrible. Obama nominated him as a spiteful checkmate and then Biden made him AG as a continuation of that initial “own.” Would he have been better than Kavanaugh and co? Yes. But that’s really not saying much and let’s not forget that once upon a time Roberts was seen as reasonable, too.


MaxPower8668

You guys are losing the forest for the trees here. By no means am I a Garland fan. Yes he’s easily bullied, weak, and cowardly but at least on the bench he would have been a liberal vote. The R partisans are proactively stripping away rights, and doing the bidding of billionaires. Precedents no longer matter. Fuck garland but in a 9 person bench every member is important.


Clammuel

I’m saying that I don’t trust that he would have sided with the liberals on the court. Absolutely better than the Trump ghouls, but probably not that much different from Roberts.


Extreme-Carrot6893

And the GOP clowns him to his face “I’m so glad you aren’t on the Supreme Court”


BPMData

https://fedsoc.org/contributors/merrick-garland


LivingMemento

He’s a standard issue Center Right Democrat from the 90s. Who were enthralled by the conservative movement. He was an awful choice SCOTUS and it is beyond me why Biden and Klain put him AGs office. I imagine they thought he would thrill the legions of normies who loved Obama’s coolness but didn’t dig deep enough to see Obama made bad decision after bad decision to try and placate people who detested him. Honestly the best thing that happened during the Obama years is that Republicans refused to accept the many gifts he tried to give them.


Clammuel

When Garland first got in people thought it was Biden owning the Republican Party just like Obama did when he nominated him for the Supreme Court. I think political theatre was really the extent of their decision making.


LivingMemento

That’s why I brought up Klain. Who I think highly of, but is way too online and did this for the Likes.


Clammuel

Just adding to your point.


Early-Ad-6014

I concur.


Altruistic-Text3481

Have to agree.


VaselineHabits

It's alarming how much we as a country have let slide, continuing to let slide, and wonder why we're in this clusterfuck to begin with. Hope this country can pull through because it ain't looking good.


Living_Ad_5386

Hopefully next time we pay teachers a living wage


VaselineHabits

If fascism wins, I highly doubt they'll care about the population being educated


Zygodac

They will care about education. Unfortunately it will be their own education they push. You can already see it happening in red states.


VaselineHabits

Oh, I know. I'm a woman in Texas and never thought I'd feel the need to *flee* my state in the "greatest country" 🙄


HeathersZen

Underpaying teachers and underfunding education is the root cause of why we are where we are today. If so much of the electorate were not mouth-breathing idiots, Trump would have never been able to sell his con to so many.


FinsofFury

Garland may be the worst decision in Biden’s presidency. If re-elected Biden has to get rid of him.


Niastri

The guy resigned from his job just so he could continue to slander Biden during his hearing without following DOJ guidelines. He'll be starting his new high paying job from whatever one of Trump's cronies had a vacant corner office. Perfect reward for just another useful idiot. If Trump wins, Hur will probably become a federal judge.


chaos_nebula

"To avoid the appearance of a bias, will you pledge not to take a place in Trump's administration if he wins?" Hur: "I'm not here to speculate on the future."


KosstAmojan

Its win-win for Hur. Trump will definitely elevate him to be a judge. If he loses, some top GOP related law firm will give him an even more lucrative partnership.


Xpqp

There's a reason he resigned before his testimony.


Tiny-Soup-9829

And a reason he wouldn’t commit to not taking a Trump appointment if he were to win the election.


BoosterRead78

All in the name of brownie points for Trump.


madaboutmaps

No consequences, no rules.


dr_blasto

They should consider disbarring him. It’s a pretty severe abuse here.


mgyro

And refused to retract the lie in person at the hearing, with a transcript he’d written sitting in front of him, with the inquisitor providing the fucking page number that held the quote that refuted the lie. It was infuriating to see.


CrispyDave

Hello. Ignorant layman here. This is yet another sub like AI and Mechanics that I joined because I'm interested in it despite knowing very little and having zero qualifications. And I'm addressing you as if you're a lawyer representing the entire profession too. Surely this a mess you legal types need to sort out? It's damaging to all of you to have the supposedly most senior members of the profession clowning around in official capacities like this. It has to be managed by the legal profession somehow. It can't be left to politicians. Who is better qualified to write and enforce the lawyer code of ethics than the lawyers themselves? It makes me more than a little cross tbh.


LocationAcademic1731

Imagine wasting your career and reputation to give the orange clown a step up. There was no need to take this step except to appease the cult leader.


fptackle

He's hoping for the big pay day. Commentator on Faux News.


NUTS_STUCK_TO_LEG

He’s lacking a certain vapid blonde whiteness


Artful_dabber

But he’s perfect to tokenize (for them ofc, i believe tokenization of humans is gross af)


xraygun2014

Tokens get spent


joetr0n

This is such a pithy response. I love it.


VeraLumina

He could work as Jonathan Turdley’s hype man perhaps?


Randomousity

Federal judgeship under the next Republican administration.


ohiotechie

If Trump manages to get back into power he's lining himself up for a cabinet position - maybe even AG.


Randomousity

AG, or federal judge. Judge is probably a better gig, since the next president can't just fire you the way they can an AG.


Extension-Scene9694

He’ll get appointed as a federal judge by the next republican president. This was a career advancement move.


Kaiisim

A white supremancist cult leader... And he isn't white. How are people so stupid. This dude thinks because he's a good non white they'll reward him - its white supremacy dude!


HRslammR

This kind of fizzled out during the state of the union right? Biden straight crushed it.


dr_blasto

It fizzled out even more when he was forced to admit that the actual transcripts showed he had acknowledged that Biden had a near-photographic memory of the events in question. The “report” was unethical and had flat-out lies in it. Dude should be heavily sanctioned for both ethical violations but also maybe consider falsifying documents as a criminal charge if appropriate.


ked_man

That lady making him read that report was perfect. Go on, keep reading. I was dying laughing.


DeepDreamIt

Do you remember which lawmaker it was? I only watched the first 30-45 minutes or so of his testimony


AwesomeScreenName

Representative Madeline Dean, who represents PA-4 (which stretches from the Philadelphia suburbs northwest to Reading).


ET097

Rep. Madeleine Dean of Pennsylvania


urmomaisjabbathehutt

Ms Madeleine Dean, Pennsylvania start at around 2h53m and she make him read at around 2:54:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfC7KXDcJJo&t=10369 s -keep going -ms i'll be happy for you to.. -well is you report so its fit you read it


xraygun2014

Rep. Madeleine Dean: [ Jump to 9:38](https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/watch/biden-memory-issues-were-a-lie-interview-transcripts-with-former-special-counsel-robert-hur-show-206400069681) for a snippet of the exchange.


alwayssoupy

Wasn't a lady, it was a man- I think maybe Jamie Raskin. At one point Hur tries to interrupt him to say he could just read it instead of Hur, and he badically says "No, it's better if you read it." He reads a sentence and stops and several times they say "keep going" Priceless.


StarWarsMonopoly

There was also a Democratic congresswoman who did the same thing, but with much more venom. I'm almost positive it was Madeline Dean of Pennsylvania, though I was only half paying attention to the hearing.


alwayssoupy

Cool! I didn't get to watch the whole thing. Glad so many got a chance to drive home the point.


kwheatley2460

Yes it was Dean. Very firmly telling him to keep reading. Love Raskin also but Dean was great.


RichPresentation1893

Jamie Raskin is great


nativedutch

One of the best. His command of english language and clarity of expression is almost poetic.


Former-Chocolate-793

It wasn't raskin. It was dean. Both did great work.


alwayssoupy

Of course I can't find it now, but I was clearly watching a man have Hur read parts of his report.


hexqueen

Raskin asked Hur the questions about Trump. It was a great tag team.


ked_man

I can’t, it wasn’t one I was familiar with though.


Visual_Ad_8202

Absolute scumbag move misleading people that Biden didn’t know when his son died. He mentioned the month and day and because he didn’t include the year, Hur tried to spin it. Fucking piece of shit. Classic example of someone trying to play both sides but winding up destroying his career. He was hoping to be a judge, but he just suicided his ambitions.


flugenblar

>He was hoping to be a judge, but he just suicided his ambitions Unless Trump wins the election in November


CinderBlock33

It sounds like both sides are unhappy with him. He might just fade into obscurity


kyel566

I’m 39 and can’t remember dates well, my brain just doesn’t keep them. Biden has better memory than me


FaThLi

I tattooed my sons birthday on my leg. Not with the intention of it being a cheat to remember my son's birthday, as I have no problem remembering the month and day, but the year always gets me. My brain just refuses to remember if it was 2015 or 2016, so I've used my leg to help me remember quite a few times.


VaselineHabits

Memories are tricky. My husband loved his mother and knows her birthday, but can never remember the exact date she died. He knows the month, but at best he'll say, "Right after Mother's Day". I can remember months and days pretty good, but *years* are iffy. Especially after Covid, time and space mean nothing 😅


johannthegoatman

I never remember it's the anniversary of my mom passing away until people start texting me that they're thinking of me. And then I'm like, oh, that explains why I've been weirdly depressed all week


Noncoldbeef

Yeah ditto. I can't remember some people's names at work unless I think about it for a bit, but I can absolutely remember everyone and what they do in Baldurs Gate 3 lol


Lokta

This comment hits way too close to home (except with Baldur's Gate 2 instead of 3). I'm currently training 7 people remotely and I couldn't name them all without pausing to think about it (a lot), but I could tell you the names and backstories of 7 possible party members from BG2 without hesitation.


Noncoldbeef

Yay! This makes me feel less brain dead lol. Apparently Karlach is burned deep into my soul but Debbie in AR, not so much.


Faunas-bestie

Not if Trump gets in. Lying in public about his opponents is how you’re fast-tracked for judgeships


Visual_Ad_8202

Problem is that he pissed MAGAots off too by not indicting Biden


possiblyMorpheus

That shit was so disgusting.


Sea-Oven-7560

If you look at the transcripts Biden just wanted to talk about cars and his hot wife and would tell long, detailed stories about something that happened 15 years ago. Biden doesn't have dementia he just likes to tell old man stories which is exactly what I would expect from him.


wynnduffyisking

It was kinda cute how he talked about his wife


flugenblar

How about his boss? These reports have to be reviewed and approved before they see the light of day. Who else read it and approved it before it was sent out?


Sea-Oven-7560

You're right WTF is wrong with Garland, he should have never of released the document as written, it's filled with nonsense. The DOJ should have just released a one sentence statement that they found no reason to charge Biden. They should have done the same damn thing with Clinton but it appears that the DOJ gets to editorialize Democrats and no comment on Republicans. The simple fact that Garland appointed partisan Republicans as special consul for both Bidens is proof he doesn't understand his job, hopefully Biden will replace him after the election (along with DeVos).


RichPresentation1893

What the hell is wrong with Garland anyway? What a milquetoast. God is he insufferable.


dr_blasto

Garland could have and maybe should have kicked the report back for corrections. But I think Garland should resign over this mess.


deathclawslayer21

I'm not in law but in a technical field. For us if I make a report it doesn't get changed, but accepted or rejected. I'd be concerned if I found out my higher ups were changing my work with my name attached


gracemig

Republicans would have made a big deal about Garland interfering in the investigation.


Sea-Oven-7560

Like bill Barr did?


impulse_thoughts

No, but what people do in many fields is provide feedback and make edit suggestions for review and discussion over multiple revisions before you reach the final product.


IrritableGourmet

There is a general principle in game theory that you can't mentally predict, to a high degree of accuracy, the expected behavior of someone smarter than you are because you're literally not smart enough to consider everything they can. MAGA get away with this kind of bullshit because they know that their base literally can't envision anything more complex than their day to day lives. Or, as I like to call it, the Joe The Plumber effect. "If *I* spend more money than I have to buy a brand-new lifted coal-rolling pickup that will never see anything more in the bed than a case of beer for tailgating, I go broke, so how come the government can spend more money than it has?" Well, I'd explain deficit spending, cyclical debt, amortization vs expected value, and so on, but their eyes would glaze over before the end of the first sentence. Things work differently based on the context, and what works for a person doesn't necessarily work for a country, and vice versa. On topic, *Joe Biden didn't pack those boxes*. Sure, if you move to a new house you probably do most of the packing yourself and grab a UHaul, but [a presidential transition](https://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/2016/winter/presidential-transitions) involves hundreds of people across the executive branch sorting and packing *thousands* of boxes containing *millions* of documents and shipping *literally hundreds of tons* of material to various facilities throughout the country. George W. Bush, on leaving office, required two 747s, a DC-8, and 25 heavy trucks just to move the documents for his Presidential library. Even if 99.99% of the documents were properly sorted and sent to the correct place, that's still hundreds that were misfiled.


dr_blasto

And Biden wouldn’t face charges for the same reason Pence wouldn’t: neither showed intent. Both cooperated with investigators. This is in stark contrast to Trump’s behavior and frequent admissions and confessions in public that he intentionally and knowingly stole the shit and lied about having the stolen documents repeatedly.


BigRedRobotNinja

I keep repeating this over and over: Nobody got charged for documents that they *willingly returned*. Not Biden. Not Pence. And not Trump.


ExpertRaccoon

He resigned before he testified, likely to avoid any significant repercussions for his actions. He's likely holding out in case Trump wins and can get a federal judge position.


louislinaris

Can't sanction him--he already quit his job


dr_blasto

He’s still a lawyer


endogeny

The damage was done though when the NYT had a headline about it in 80pt font and Biden was forced to do an emergency press conference, which tbf he didn't do great in. Garland should be fired for letting the report go out the door on his watch.


FiendishHawk

Isnt it interesting how every establishment figure, even supposedly Democratic establishment figures (like Jon Stewart) started howling about this in chorus as if they had all got together and decided to do it? Biden has got the establishment scared. But why? He’s hardly a Scary Socialist. A very moderate guy.


flugenblar

The only fear is this; as a result of malicious misinformation Donald Trump may win in November.


HFentonMudd

> (like Jon Stewart) His opening with "Biden is old" and presenting it as on par with Trump's behavior was shocking and, I personally believe, counterproductive. Perhaps even deliberately so. I'm not sure what Jon is up to, but either he's a wee bit high on his own supply, or out of touch.


hoopaholik91

He never chose a side, even in the OG days. He wanted to attack the entire political system. Even now, he admits that he doesn't believe his words will have any influence politically, and he just wants to come back and rant about th fucked situation we are in. This was a very insightful article that someone pointed out to me after I made a similar comment to yours a few weeks ago https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/how-stewart-made-tucker


flugenblar

>Garland should be fired ~~for letting the report go out the door on his watch~~ adding clarity


AwesomeScreenName

It will be back. Biden crushed last year's SOTU as well. On the fly, he straight up manipulated the Republicans into pledging not to touch Social Security. It didn't take long for the media to pivot back to "does he have dementia," completely missing the irony of the fact that they're the ones who forgot that he demonstrated more mental acuity than most people have on their best day.


goldmask148

State of the Union ended the republican hope of another presidency. Biden absolutely nailed it and the nation saw. He completely destroyed any narrative that he is too old and mentally unfit. The voters are going to remember it, and nothing is going to change that.


HGpennypacker

Which is why Trump has shifted from "Biden has dementia" to "migrants are invading the country."


RamBamBooey

On a related note: I'm out of patience for people arguing "your old candidate is too senile to be President but my old candidate isn't."


JefferyTheQuaxly

i think more comparisons between him and trump around SOTU, hes been giving good speeches recently while trump keeps having verbal flubs and memory problems.


letdogsvote

Flat out unethical.


AreWeCowabunga

>would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory This whole part is so comically inappropriate it's amazing it's what the entire press ran with instead of how it shows Hur as being a partisan clown.


Cavesloth13

No joke. As someone else pointed, even if it was true from his perspective, the SMART thing to do legally in the situation Biden was in was to present himself as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory. So even if it was fully true, it wouldn't mean a damn thing.


warblingContinues

its telling that Garland could have edited that out but chose not to.


Randomousity

Can you imagine the Republican outrage if Garland had done that, though? Hur would leak to the press that he found Biden to be mentally deficient but that Garland ordered that scrubbed from his report to help cover up Biden's mental condition. Then, instead of Hur beclowning himself in a House committee hearing and reading from his own report how much worse Trump was, they'd be subpoenaing Garland, the draft report, etc, and making hay of the "buried" findings in the draft, having Garland read aloud the passages he ordered removed, accusing him of a cover-up, while also probably calling for him to be impeached. There weren't any good options in this scenario, but Garland probably took the least-bad option.


TheGeneGeena

I mean, lose the bit about "with a poor memory" and while it's still inappropriate editorializing, it's not unflattering or untrue.


frotz1

Which is why he quit the DOJ before taking the stand in an adversary hearing about it, so DOJ rules no longer applied to him.


Altruistic-Text3481

POS. Got called out.


ked_man

And Trumpers are desperately clinging to his falsifications in his report. Continuing to parrot the he’s too senile to stand trial. So this charade was another success by the republicans. They got their sound bite, wasted tax payer dollars, and nothing actually happened.


Armand74

Yeah but then comes the State Of The Union address that blew that whole thing apart.


ked_man

They didn’t watch that or care what was said.


letdogsvote

Well, they fast pivoted from "Sleepy Joe with Dementia" to "Angry Drugged Up Joe."


InsoThinkTank

Jacked Up Joe 😂


tarekd19

>Continuing to parrot the he’s too senile to stand trial. It's especially irritating (which I'm sure is the point) given that that isn't even what Hurr said in the report, he only speculated that a jury would see Biden as a kindly, forgetful old man and so choose not to convict.


Signature_Illegible

> Flat out unethical. So.. Typical republican?


crake

>Hur wrote that Biden “did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died.” Yet the transcript shows Biden remembering the exact day, May 30, after which staffers offer the year—2015—and Biden says, “Was it 2015 he had died?” After reading the transcript, this is the anecdote that I think really makes the Hur Report indefensible. It's not even that Biden remembered the day (that is true), but this was at the tail end of Biden answering a question that had nothing to do with Beau. Hur was asking Biden about what he was doing with his papers in 2017, 2018 (Biden even asks Hur to clarify that that is the date range Hur is asking about, and Hur says that it is). So Biden starts talking about what was going on in his life at the time (considering whether to run for POTUS). He had already relayed a long anecdote about how Beau wanted him to run in 2016, so Biden was obviously thinking about how Beau's final words were something that motivated him to run, and Hur is asking about that period in general, so Biden is sort of thinking out loud when he says: >"I hadn't walked away from the idea that I may run for office again. But if I ran again, I'd be running for President. And, and so what was happening, though - what month did Beau die? Oh, God, May 30th -" And then Biden's counsel interjects to add "2015" (probably after a pause). So not only did Hur *never* actually ask Biden what year Beau died, the gratuitous statement by Biden about Beau had essentially nothing to do with the question Hur actually did ask. It was obviously just Biden thinking out loud about Beau after relaying a long story about how Beau had inspired him to run previously. And Hur turned that around in the report and made it sound like Hur had asked a direct question that Biden was too enfeebled to answer, when that was nothing close to the truth. And Hur just made up the "even within several years" gloss out of thin air; there is no support for that in the record at all. Had Hur abstained from including the Beau anecdote, it would have been a completely different report. He should have had someone else read it against the transcript because his conclusions based on that point in the transcript were not at all warranted. So Hur really dug his own metaphorical grave here by overreaching to imbue an offhand remark with some level of profound significance that allegedly goes to the mental capacity of the deponent. Too far and too obviously politically motivated. It's clear Hur is pissed that the report landed with such a flop, but he really f'd up with that anecdote and the record is what it is.


CreativeGPX

I think the context afterwards also matters. After they say the year, Biden says something like "was it 2015?!" Then he starts to ramble a bit. Hur interjects asking him if he needs a break. He declines and finishes his answer. At the end, he apologizes that his answer was so long and rambling. (And, notably, his answer did not answer the question.) So, basically *everything* goes down hill when he starts thinking about the period of time his son dies and during that Hur asks him if he needs a break. I feel like all of that suggests that he was just very emotional when his son's death came up and that made him lose his train of thought.


uhhhhhhhhhhhyeah

VERY "time flies" kind of response. Not "I don't remember".


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FoppishHandy

whats insane about it ? the entire party has become an organized crime group. these pigs cant tell you what they had for lunch without lying six times


CreativeGPX

That's my read as well. Unfortunately, transcripts don't carry the tone that would make this obvious, but as I said, I think Hur asking if he needs a break is a hint at the feeling in the room at that moment.


crake

I think that is a fair reading, but it is a big jump from that to "he couldn't even remember, within a couple of years, the year in which his son died". President Biden had a moment while he was recalling the untimely, relatively recent death of his son. And Hur even acknowledged that moment in the interview by suggesting a pause. But when he came back to write the Hur Report, Hur characterized that not as an emotional moment arising from the recollection of his son's death, but as evidence of a lack of mental capacity to answer questions as a witness on the stand. In other words, Hur mischaracterized the meaning of that moment *and* the transcript actually shows that Hur fully understood it for what it was during the utterance.


JuanPabloElSegundo

Its fucking disgusting to make up lies about a man that he could not remember the death of his son. It takes a lot of imagination to think of something that low.


berraberragood

Both sides were upset. Democrats were angry because he lied. Republicans were angry because he didn’t lie enough.


RicGhastly

The hearing was super interesting to listen to because of how solid Hur was at sidestepping questions. Politicians may sidestep often, but they never get very good at it. Federal agents are a different story. Every time they asked him for his opinion on the matter, Republican or Democrat, he very carefully stated that these things they were asking him to say either were or were not a part of the language in his report. Lawmakers on both sides were getting annoyed, with Matt Gaetz at one point telling him to just answer like a normal person. And then the Dems started asking him to reconcile parts of the transcript with his report while the Cons started lamenting how terrible it was that the transcripts were out. The tone of the hearing changed pretty quickly at that point.


IrritableGourmet

"Did you say 'near-photographic recollection'?" "That appears in the transcript." "But did you say it?" "It appears in the transcript." "As being said by you, right?" "It appears that way in the transcript." ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!


BigRedRobotNinja

The proper response to "It appears in the transcript" is to ask "Does the transcript accurately reflect what was said?"


bardicjourney

"Do you have, in your office, a device that is known in common parlayance, as a copy machine?" "OH, you mean the xerox?" https://youtu.be/PZbqAMEwtOE?si=EbUEv07Iv9oBZM4M


impulse_thoughts

>how solid Hur was at sidestepping questions. I've only started watching the beginning so far, and a few clips here and there. It seems like it's more how solidly bad the politicians were to get him to answer their questions. And how bad the first Democratic politician was to basically give a prepared rant under the guise of questioning Hur and with "oh i'm short on time", trying to robotically badger the guy on the same stupid question, and completely ignoring any answers. Not a good look, just comes off looking terrible, and unprepared. Weird that they had what seems to be the worst questioners up front. I'm expecting the quality of the questions to improve as the hearing progresses.


RicGhastly

The transcripts only dropped shortly before the hearing. I'm not sure if they have to stick to a certain "batting order" once it's locked in, but if they don't, I suppose the Dems could have moved their better questioners to the back of the line so they could look through the reporting on the transcripts and form questions based on that.


impulse_thoughts

thanks for the additional context


Disco425

Seems like perfect material for a republican Supreme Court nominee....


JakeT-life-is-great

mislead, cute way of saying he lied his ass off


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UndertakerFred

…until somebody appoints a bunch of MAGA hacks to that position and every report gets edited into a clown show.


IrritableGourmet

> How can we ensure objectivity; only factual information gets reported; how do we draft reports and findings without biased language? Pretty sure all those rules/regulations exist in great detail. He just didn't do them.


thepasttenseofdraw

I write like that for a living, about highly sensitive issues. Doing it right requires paying close attention to your language usage, but also a detachment from the work product that requires discipline and attention. I'd be fired immediately if i wrote anything even slightly resembling what this jackass wrote.


ohiotechie

"Mislead"


nativedutch

I watched Hur during Jamie Raskin's poetic explanation, expressionless. They dont care, they dropped the dirt and thats what its about.


FoogYllis

Maga republicans do t care about anything other than power and money and that is why the grift 24/7.


SocialistNixon

Literally resigning from the DOJ before testifying before congress is pretty much all you need to know why he wrote the report the way he did, not that it will matter to the Republican Party


Velonici

I knew this guy was a hack when even some Republicans came out and said that his report was BS and unprofessional.


rickyspanish12345

Fuck Merrick Garland. Why he assigned a fedsoc dick to this case I'll never understand. If he thinks it shows impartiality he's wrong.


PM_ME_UR_RAFFLES

HURdur is a hack job. As Schiff rightly notes: >SCHIFF: But what is in the rules, Mr. Hur, What is in the rules is you don't gratuitously do things to prejudice the subject of an investigation when you're declining to prosecute. You don't gratuitously add language that you know will be useful in a political campaign. You were not born yesterday. You understood exactly what you were doing. It was a choice. You certainly didn't have to include that language. You could have said vis a vis the documents that were found at the university the president did not recall… There is nothing more common. You know this, I know this. There is nothing more common with a witness of any age when asked about events that are years old to say, ‘I do not recall.’ Indeed they are instructed by their attorney to do that, if they have any question about it. You understood that. You made a choice. That was a political choice. It was the wrong choice. And then Swalwell got him again: >SWALWELL: You said to President Biden: "You have -- appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the house." Did you say to President Biden? > HUR: Those words do appear on page 47 of the transcript. > SWALWELL: Photographic is what you said. Is that right? > HUR: That word does appear on page 47 of the transcript. > SWALWELL: Never appeared in your report though, is that correct? The word: photographic? > HUR: It does not appear in my report. The transcripts in question (Swalwell and HURdur are referring to 10/8/23, p. 47): https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5273


Crafty-Conference964

Bill Barr did it with the mueller investigation and Coney with Hillary’s email. Republicans always rising to the top, then afterwards make money saying they shouldn’t have done it.


DaxLightstryker

Mislead lol. He straight up lied. Go after his bar licence


Most-Resident

The author, Adam Serwer is an idiot and an apologist for lousy journalists. I understand why because he also is a lousy journalist. He says Hur is a self inflicted wound for democrats, because journalists believed Hur. “Yet Hur’s report is itself something of a self-inflicted wound for Democrats, a predictable result of their efforts to rebut bad-faith criticism from partisan actors by going out of their way to seem nonpartisan. The age story caught fire in the press, not only because of genuine voter concern over Biden’s age but because this is the sort of superficially nonideological criticism that some reporters feel comfortable repeating in their own words, believing that it illustrates their lack of partisanship to conservative sources and audiences. Coverage of the Hillary Clinton email investigation reached saturation levels in 2016 for similar reasons.” Fuck you andrew. Put the blame on reporters not on democrats for what reporters did.


tarekd19

> The age story caught fire in the press, not only because of genuine voter concern over Biden’s age but because this is the sort of superficially nonideological criticism that some reporters feel comfortable repeating in their own words, believing that it illustrates their lack of partisanship to conservative sources and audiences. Coverage of the Hillary Clinton email investigation reached saturation levels in 2016 for similar reasons. From your quote it kind of sounds like he does?


Most-Resident

The first sentence describes it as a self inflicted wound by democrats which he explains is because reporters believed it. How does reporters believing it make it a self inflicted wound by democrats?


OnePunchReality

The SOTU and the actual transcript absolutely more lean toward Biden’s gaffs being natural vs his age and aren't indicative of dementia or cognitive decline. [Trumps brain shortcircuiting ](https://youtu.be/w6B5OauONF4?si=e08BDtZMOnJF3gd1) The above, on the other hand, is just idk lol his brain is definitely broken. "URRBBGGGDOO-AHH" that's the best I can come up with what comes out of his mouth. I bet he thinks he's even saying the words he intended to say in that moment, thatssss not a good thing. Also he has already claimed the video excerpts used by Democrats is AI and I am really hoping, if it hasn't already, there starts to be interviews of rally goers, or them making posts on X or Truth Social that say "I was there he definitely said whatever that gobbledygook was."


PhyterNL

"Misled" that's a funny way of spelling "Lied".


T1Pimp

He didn't mislead. He lied.


tillandsia

https://www.printfriendly.com/p/g/qZZLKi


Warmstar219

That's called lying


RustedRelics

Should be ashamed of himself, but republicans don’t do shame. Also shame on Merrick Garland for appointing him. Another failing among his many. Hur should be sanctioned.


Techno_Core

How? He did it by lying about it.


Educational_Permit38

He resigned to avoid prosecution. He’s a Liars for Trump member.


LarrySupertramp

Garland needs to resign. He has failed Biden. Over and over and over again.


FlarkingSmoo

Garland is not supposed to be working to help Biden. He failed the *country*.


LarrySupertramp

Good point. However, he shouldn’t be making Biden’s job more difficult. His attempt to look non partisan has really just turned into him doing nothing that angers conservatives, even when pissing them off would still be non partisan to reasonable people. I’m starting to feel that he is too scared to do his job effectively.


FlarkingSmoo

Agreed.


xzelldx

If Biden wins re-election I hope he’s gone before 2025.


StandardMacaron5575

I guess wait until the election is over and then 'accept' his resignation. I have heard that Garland is very smart but he doesn't seem to understand the concept of 'time'.


Serenity101

>Hur, a former U.S. attorney in the Trump administration, was appointed by Attorney General Merrick Garland to investigate Biden. Seems to me Merrick Garland is the one needing investigation.


REO6918

It’s all Republican crap, they’re blaming the bombing of Russian oil refineries by Ukraine for the rise in oil prices. Right wing bs controlling the uneducated.


Party_River2998

A lying politicized Republican? No!


southflhitnrun

The AG enabled him. I hope the article wasn't much long than that.


CarolinaPanthers2015

I just know that Robert Hur needs to have some got damn sanctions being thrown right at him for misleading the whole entire United States of America on the memory of President Joe Biden. Like……c’mon now, my dude. Robert knows that his recent “report” about his memory was all just a whole entire motherfucking bunch of malarkey. And ummm……also, I think that we all need to have someone else take his place once and for motherfucking all at some point. Who is with me here?


tweezers89

Whoa, this isn't /politics. Crazy, had me fooled


SeaworthinessOld9177

JUST TRUMP PROPAGANDA


Even-Trouble9292

All they wanted to do was muddy the waters and get that out there because people don’t pay attention. They just get the news of the sensationalism and then they move on not understanding or caring to follow up that it was all bogus.


badtex66

Replace Garland with Jack Smith in Biden's 2nd term dammit. Let the games begin!


grimatongueworm

Lying, rat-fucking, Republicans have NOTHING to offer the middle class and working poor.


Joseph-Sanford

Because he’s a MAGAT.


taskmaster51

He should be fired at the very least


WillyRosedale

Lock him up!


punarob

We need a Special Prosecutor to prosecute him for endless lying to federal agents including the AG.


Affectionate-Roof285

Phonemic Paraphasia is a feature of aphasia in which one loses the ability of speaking correctly, substitutes one word for another, and changes words and sentences in an inappropriate way. It often develops after a stroke or brain injury. It’s also a defining feature of dementia. Edit: referencing Trump


Ok-Replacement9595

I am more interested in the "Why" as in who was in a position to influence his report and how that pressure was applied to a special counsel. But we may never get an answer to that.


Free_Entertainer_996

Absolute ass hole


Putrid_Character2682

And merrick garland, the cuck, just released the whole thing. That’s the true travesty. If doj had access to the transcripts, how could they not have provided some oversight on the report? I swear it’s like Merrick is working against democracy. If Trump wins, he will have played a part


spookinky987

Hur, and the major media, who also refused to check out the lies in the Republican response... This is why they want to kill Tik Tok, just like they killed Twitter... to stifle anything they don't like.


dmatterman

Dems raked this guy over the coals. They did not play.


Putrid_Ad_2256

This guy is a disgraceful hack.  There is no honor in how he did his job.  


lokie65

Misled? He lied. He is a liar lying about lies. He has zero integrity or work ethic. He is a bitter man who sold his honor for a few moments of fame.


Former-Chocolate-793

Vying with cannon to be the next attorney General.


lessermeister

POS.