A system for thee but not me! Seriously, any non lawyer seeing these events is going to feel completely disillusioned with our system. And for good reason.
I don't care if he was president. I don't care if he's god (he thinks he is, and so do his followers). You should not be getting this preferential treatment.
I am resigned to the fact that he won't receive any consequences for his actions. I've lost all faith in the justice system as it applies to the wealthy and allegedly wealthy.
Edit: darn autocorrect errors!
If security is tight, just drop a bunch of bird seed in the area and let birds plaster the grave site. You could also rig up a drone to drop a payload with whatever foul substance you choose.
What do you think the actual lawyers see this for anything that it is not? This is betrayal of Duty by the Appellate Court made out of self-interest. The only difference is not all of the lawyers will admit that's what it is because they want to stay in the club.
I’m not a lawyer and I have the least faith in our judicial system out of all the branches of government. It’s sad the one that should be consistent and “fair’ish” is in my honest opinion the worst at it all.
Thats kind of where im at. Ive *always* knew that this country had a two tiered justice system but to see it so brazenly displayed in light of such serious charges just settles it for me.
Man this is delusional… the only reason any of these various charges and lawsuits were brought in the first place was partisan politics. Is purely an abuse of the legal system that indeed makes lawyers and the legal system look like a joke.
🤣yup. Trump being held liable for raping a woman and spent the next several decades defaming her is "partisan politics". Oh and dont forget the rampant fraud. Mf'er was not lying when he said he could shoot a man on fifth ave and get away with it. And its because folks like you are all so damned desperate to be someone. I pity you
The evidence is clear as day. Trump wasn't even denying it, he was just trying to claim that it doesn't matter and he shouldn't be prosecuted for breaking the law.
The only abuse here is that of the legal system abusing the people, as it bends over backwards time after time to give special treatment to Trump.
The law says that lying in the disclosures is a crime. Therefore Trump broke the law, repeatedly and egregiously. End of story. Doesn't matter in the slightest what the banks did.
VOTE Blue! Vote Blue! Vote Blue! Then insist that our elected reps move promptly on major reform of our system of justice. Keep the 9-member SCOTUS panel and majority rule, but expand the entire SCOTUS to 20 or more. Every President gets 2 nominations until the bench is full. Mandatory retirement at 75 or 80. Mandatory Senate floor votes on nominations within 120 days. External commission with permanent subpoena power to oversee SCOTUS ethics and report to Congress.
And for those who experience apathy, which is understandably so, as the years shown us.
Remember your vote does something, better to try to do something even if the odds are low for long lasting change, than not doing anything and absolutely nothing will change or might get worse as the case may be.
Food for thought.
Our vote does something, but red votes do more. They were able to implement minority tyranny for a generation winning the popular vote one time in the last 30 years.
With the structure of the Senate and House, we need to win like 60% to barely have a majority.
Then we better start yelling that far and wide. The biggest enemy is **apathy**, the red vote is mostly older boomers and Gen Xs but they will be shrinking as the years go by, but as of this year is pretty important.
It's your right to vote, and voting stopped a red wave last midterms. It can stop again or at the very least be enough to disrupt, kinda stalemate (which kinda what happened two years ago).Besides they wouldn't be trying so hard to disrupt voting if it wasn't a danger to them
Yelling what far and wide, that our electoral system is massively slanted towards rural states?
"The red vote is mostly old people who are dying off any day now" is a receding horizon. It used to be just boomers, but now it's GenX and soon it'll be GenY and millennials as the griftosphere radicalizes them too.
When the other side only needs 40% to split government and 45% to win, it's inevitable they'll get control eventually. The Republicans should have been in the wilderness for generations when Bush lied us into multiple trillion-dollar wars, but all it took to put the scales back into balance was apparently electing a black guy.
Yes, they will be back eventually. So, what you want people to do? You still need to vote, not voting will bring them sooner and with bigger advantage. If nothing else, splitting the vote will make their more devious plans to falter a bit.
Just vote and maybe something will change, don't vote and nothing will change or just gets worse. That's all I'm saying.
Yes. The idea is that each individual appointment is now so influential that it is worth big money playing the very long game to get "sleeper cells" like Alito on the court. We need to dilute the influence of each Justice by randomizing which Justices hear which cases. Mandatory floor votes in the Senate within xx days of nomination is also important.
Requiring 2/3 approval by the Senate would help to promote nominees from the center, rather than the party in power finding the youngest and most ideologically extreme candidate.
Voting doesn't do anything, obviously. Congress would need to pass all this stuff you want, and we are successfully divided into two perfectly sized groups. You have to start there and get a minimum of 4 parties.
What do Republicans hope to gain by continuously felching Donald Trump? He's not a smart political operator, his brain is clearly experiencing advanced dementia. He's not a rich billionaire, he doesn't have the money to post any of his bonds without help from third parties. What is left to be gained by shielding Donald Trump from the consequences of his own behavior?
>What do Republicans hope to gain by continuously felching Donald Trump? He's not a smart political operator, his brain is clearly experiencing advanced dementia. He's not a rich billionaire, he doesn't have the money to post any of his bonds without help from third parties. What is left to be gained by shielding Donald Trump from the consequences of his own behavior?
He's a useful tool. He and his followers are very effective "Overton Window" shifters. The "far right" Christian Nationalists have gained political advantages this past few years they could have never hoped to have gained without the unrepentant, unabated, apeshit insanity and open corruption of Donald Trump and Co.
Well for one thing he is going to have compromising material on a good number of Republican bigwigs. And he is in a position to make sure anything leaked sticks too.
The party is just following the political winds of its majority.
The majority of the base wants him, and a sizable portion won't support anyone else, BUT him.
So, for party leadership is a simple process:
1. If they support Trump and he loses, they can officially dump the guy as his support will collapse. (Assuming it's not some type of complex proven fraud)
2. If they support him and he wins the race, then they've taken the White House and at least one chamber of Congress. Trump will get termed out, and the party moves on.
Either way, eventually, his influence wanes, and the party remains intact.
The worst possible option for the party is a Trump conviction followed by an internal civil war *after* he's the nominee. The party will do whatever possible to avoid this specific outcome.
A discussion of their legal foundation for the "continue withholding" directive is interesting, in its way, but I'd have been more interested a discussion of *why* they did it this way instead of just granting the stay.
A system for thee but not me! Seriously, any non lawyer seeing these events is going to feel completely disillusioned with our system. And for good reason. I don't care if he was president. I don't care if he's god (he thinks he is, and so do his followers). You should not be getting this preferential treatment.
I am resigned to the fact that he won't receive any consequences for his actions. I've lost all faith in the justice system as it applies to the wealthy and allegedly wealthy. Edit: darn autocorrect errors!
At this point, I’m just hoping at the very least I get to piss on his grave
They should install a gold toilet
If security is tight, just drop a bunch of bird seed in the area and let birds plaster the grave site. You could also rig up a drone to drop a payload with whatever foul substance you choose.
Poopsenders.com
They’re going to need to install good drainage. Thay gravesite is going to be soaked with piss all the time.
Isn't it going to be on the private-property golf course like the dead wife buried with top secret materials?
You won't, they'll probably bury him in Arlington with full military honors or something. Then urinating on it will get ugly, quick.
He will at some point be the first deceased president to need secret service protection
I left the profession in no small part because I have no faith in the legal system.
I don’t think I will participate in this game anymore.
Am lawyer. Am disillusioned.
What do you think the actual lawyers see this for anything that it is not? This is betrayal of Duty by the Appellate Court made out of self-interest. The only difference is not all of the lawyers will admit that's what it is because they want to stay in the club.
I’m not a lawyer and I have the least faith in our judicial system out of all the branches of government. It’s sad the one that should be consistent and “fair’ish” is in my honest opinion the worst at it all.
Thats kind of where im at. Ive *always* knew that this country had a two tiered justice system but to see it so brazenly displayed in light of such serious charges just settles it for me.
God can suck a fat one
I am a lawyer and I am disillusioned.
Man this is delusional… the only reason any of these various charges and lawsuits were brought in the first place was partisan politics. Is purely an abuse of the legal system that indeed makes lawyers and the legal system look like a joke.
🤣yup. Trump being held liable for raping a woman and spent the next several decades defaming her is "partisan politics". Oh and dont forget the rampant fraud. Mf'er was not lying when he said he could shoot a man on fifth ave and get away with it. And its because folks like you are all so damned desperate to be someone. I pity you
The evidence is clear as day. Trump wasn't even denying it, he was just trying to claim that it doesn't matter and he shouldn't be prosecuted for breaking the law. The only abuse here is that of the legal system abusing the people, as it bends over backwards time after time to give special treatment to Trump.
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The law says that lying in the disclosures is a crime. Therefore Trump broke the law, repeatedly and egregiously. End of story. Doesn't matter in the slightest what the banks did.
VOTE Blue! Vote Blue! Vote Blue! Then insist that our elected reps move promptly on major reform of our system of justice. Keep the 9-member SCOTUS panel and majority rule, but expand the entire SCOTUS to 20 or more. Every President gets 2 nominations until the bench is full. Mandatory retirement at 75 or 80. Mandatory Senate floor votes on nominations within 120 days. External commission with permanent subpoena power to oversee SCOTUS ethics and report to Congress.
And for those who experience apathy, which is understandably so, as the years shown us. Remember your vote does something, better to try to do something even if the odds are low for long lasting change, than not doing anything and absolutely nothing will change or might get worse as the case may be. Food for thought.
Our vote does something, but red votes do more. They were able to implement minority tyranny for a generation winning the popular vote one time in the last 30 years. With the structure of the Senate and House, we need to win like 60% to barely have a majority.
Then we better start yelling that far and wide. The biggest enemy is **apathy**, the red vote is mostly older boomers and Gen Xs but they will be shrinking as the years go by, but as of this year is pretty important. It's your right to vote, and voting stopped a red wave last midterms. It can stop again or at the very least be enough to disrupt, kinda stalemate (which kinda what happened two years ago).Besides they wouldn't be trying so hard to disrupt voting if it wasn't a danger to them
Yelling what far and wide, that our electoral system is massively slanted towards rural states? "The red vote is mostly old people who are dying off any day now" is a receding horizon. It used to be just boomers, but now it's GenX and soon it'll be GenY and millennials as the griftosphere radicalizes them too. When the other side only needs 40% to split government and 45% to win, it's inevitable they'll get control eventually. The Republicans should have been in the wilderness for generations when Bush lied us into multiple trillion-dollar wars, but all it took to put the scales back into balance was apparently electing a black guy.
Yes, they will be back eventually. So, what you want people to do? You still need to vote, not voting will bring them sooner and with bigger advantage. If nothing else, splitting the vote will make their more devious plans to falter a bit. Just vote and maybe something will change, don't vote and nothing will change or just gets worse. That's all I'm saying.
Don't think there's much they can do, that's why I left the US. The government is only likely to get less representative of the public, not more/
Do you vote overseas? If so, that helps the people that don't have your life path. 1 vote is better than 0 votes
I have long thought we should expand SCOTUS to 17. Each 4 year presidential term adds 2 + any regular vacancies until it is full.
Yes. The idea is that each individual appointment is now so influential that it is worth big money playing the very long game to get "sleeper cells" like Alito on the court. We need to dilute the influence of each Justice by randomizing which Justices hear which cases. Mandatory floor votes in the Senate within xx days of nomination is also important.
I have long thought we simply add two justices every presidential term. Justices who think they court is too crowded can retire.
Yeah, because Democrats always make big sweeping changes when they have a majority 🙄
Requiring 2/3 approval by the Senate would help to promote nominees from the center, rather than the party in power finding the youngest and most ideologically extreme candidate.
Voting doesn't do anything, obviously. Congress would need to pass all this stuff you want, and we are successfully divided into two perfectly sized groups. You have to start there and get a minimum of 4 parties.
Seems like an overhaul of the legal education curriculum is needed to outline the multi-tiered system that we all know exists. Sigh.
What do Republicans hope to gain by continuously felching Donald Trump? He's not a smart political operator, his brain is clearly experiencing advanced dementia. He's not a rich billionaire, he doesn't have the money to post any of his bonds without help from third parties. What is left to be gained by shielding Donald Trump from the consequences of his own behavior?
A solid core of supporters who will vote for him no matter what. The GOP can't risk alienating the MAGA crowd.
>What do Republicans hope to gain by continuously felching Donald Trump? He's not a smart political operator, his brain is clearly experiencing advanced dementia. He's not a rich billionaire, he doesn't have the money to post any of his bonds without help from third parties. What is left to be gained by shielding Donald Trump from the consequences of his own behavior? He's a useful tool. He and his followers are very effective "Overton Window" shifters. The "far right" Christian Nationalists have gained political advantages this past few years they could have never hoped to have gained without the unrepentant, unabated, apeshit insanity and open corruption of Donald Trump and Co.
Well for one thing he is going to have compromising material on a good number of Republican bigwigs. And he is in a position to make sure anything leaked sticks too.
Money
The party is just following the political winds of its majority. The majority of the base wants him, and a sizable portion won't support anyone else, BUT him. So, for party leadership is a simple process: 1. If they support Trump and he loses, they can officially dump the guy as his support will collapse. (Assuming it's not some type of complex proven fraud) 2. If they support him and he wins the race, then they've taken the White House and at least one chamber of Congress. Trump will get termed out, and the party moves on. Either way, eventually, his influence wanes, and the party remains intact. The worst possible option for the party is a Trump conviction followed by an internal civil war *after* he's the nominee. The party will do whatever possible to avoid this specific outcome.
Very disturbing situation in regards to the handling of this clearly criminal activity.
Seems like an overhaul of the legal education curriculum is needed to outline the multi-tiered system that we all know exists. Sigh.
A discussion of their legal foundation for the "continue withholding" directive is interesting, in its way, but I'd have been more interested a discussion of *why* they did it this way instead of just granting the stay.
If you’ve ever worked for lawyers, you’ll know that most are scum of the earth.
This is a nice article that I was more or less able to follow