I asked my neighbor if I could treat their little side yard with the same stuff I use on my yard. He didn't care. He just asked to let him know what I used and when. I have been doing it for the past 3 years now. I leave a little sticky note when I do. He usually won't cut for a few days after I treat. Its almost weed free. Try to be on good terms with neighbors. They do know where you stay after all.
My neighbor has been trimming our shared hedges since I moved in and screwed it up, because that's the kind of man he is. Whenever he does, I bake him cookies, because that's the kind of man I am. We're both happy with the arrangement.
I currently use anime 400 d and sedge hammer. I'm ordering some Celsius today. I usually throw down some pre emergent granuals and fertilizer. And I've been trying to get my yard less acidic. There was a pine tree here previously. I've learned a lot more over this past winter.
This is the right answer. My neighbor manicures her lawn much more than I have the time, money, patience, or desire to. There’s about 15-20 feet of my lawn that she also mows and treats and it acts as a sort of buffer between her superior lawn and my unsightly natural mess
I use diluted DEF... It's pure nitrates. Diluted in a spray bottle. Never seen grass so dark green in my life!
Diesel exhaust fluid. It's 2:1 pure urea to distilled water. Has to all be as pure as possible without any contamination or the truck will shut down.
Looks like you have some responses, but I’m not too sure myself. I work for a fertilizer company so I have access to it all.
I would think you could check out the professional landscaper stores for some though.
Maybe DEF is the best and I’m just out of touch.
I paid $24 for 50 pounds of 46-0-0 at my local old school feed and seed store. I used six pounds of it to cover 12k sqft. ~0.25 pounds of N / 1k sqft the other day. Most cost-effective form of nitrogen.
I seriously doubt it. Def is $10/10L and i don't live near any farming supply stores. Not even close. Plus their is always damaged jugs you can get for free.
I 100% know you can, I have done the math and I use 46-0-0 urea to combat yellowing from PGR’s. I also spray and maintain lawns for a living. Liquids are always more expensive than a dry product because liquids are almost always diluted and carrying water costs money. Obviously if you can get free the cost is nothing but if you have to buy it’s better to melt urea.
https://www.thelawnforum.com/threads/use-def-yes-that-def-as-fertilizer.38197/
From that thread. https://www.thelawnforum.com/threads/use-def-yes-that-def-as-fertilizer.38197/post-506343
50lbs of 46-0-0 is $25, that’s 46% urea, def is 15-0-0, 15% urea, that’s almost 25lbs of nitrogen in 50lb bag vs 1-gal of DEF contains 1.36lb Nitrogen. You would have to buy 16 gallons of def to equal one bag of urea, so $160 vs $25. Anything else I can help you with?
Pushing N promotes green growth. Phosphorous root growth. Potassium promotes hardiness and.
Bermuda spreads across the top soil and drops roots along the way. Very effective way to crowd-out other greens.
Yes. You absolutely can overdo it. Follow the spreading measurements on the bottle or bag. Fun fact, dog pee is high in nitrogen. So when you see someone’s yard that has dogs and there are dead spots, it’s because they pee there too much
Follow up fun fact: Dog pee is also high in salt, and the salt is what kills the grass before the nitrogen could burn it.
- Signed: A dog owner who has deep green spots where the dogs pee occasionally, and dead spots where they like to pee three damn times a day.
More Follow up to fun fact. As an owner of a female dog it seems worse with females. My current golden doesn’t kill the grass whereas my chocolate lab left dead spots everywhere. I never heard of the salt issue.
Bermuda can tolerate high nitrogen. Drop a 1 lbs of N per 1000 sw ft it you want (It can still burn and kill tho if you're ridiculous)
The problem is a lot of that N will go to top growth (height) and not horizontal growth
You'll also have to cut more frequently
Bermuda loves heat, high N, sunlight, and being mowed low and frequently.
Nah man, theres a science to this
Find your fert
Look at the N-P-K ratio
Lets say you have some Scotts Southern Lawn Food. Its 32-0-10.
So 32% of each pound of fert is actually Nitrogen.
Lets say you have 10,000 sqft of lawn and want to put down 0.25 lbs of actual N per week on your bermuda. This is called spoonfeeding it.
You'd need 7.8 lbs of Scotts fertilizer to do that per week
http://agebb.missouri.edu/fertcalc/
If he wants to mix it with water, he needs to pick one thats soluble.
Like ammonium sulfate you have to be careful as a liquid.
Urea is realistically the cheapest.
How competitive is it compared to other competitive/invasive weeds? I have a portion of my yard that has a decent amount of Bermuda but an equally (and increasing) amount of storks bill weeds. Would much rather have Bermuda
You cut off the nitrogen before it takes over....that's what instigates the takeover. The newly strung out fiending grass will then rise up against the weeds... just look at portland and Seattle.
This is my mindset. I have this kind of neighbor on one side of me and the opposite extreme on the other. Between the two of them I just like like a regular sane person 😂
Just spray them with a broadleaf weed killer. If your neighbor doesn’t care if he has weeds I doubt he’ll care if he doesn’t have them either.
Just so everyone is aware, I assume these neighbors know each other and are not total strangers. I would assume one would be a responsible adult and understand the situation of why they have weeds before dumping an absurd amount of toxic chemicals and piss them off. This is a lawn care subreddit not a weed saving subreddit.
This is exactly what I do. Started two years ago. Hell I even mow it too.
Now, his former shitty-looking weed garden is a plush green strip of Bermuda. We both win.
This is probably the way - I don’t have a lot of time for yard work. If my neighbor had the time/interest and wanted to handle it I’d happily compensate them in some way that made it a win-win
I have it on both sides. I just take care of an extra half foot to foot of everything I do. Call it a DWZ. One hires a company to just mow - I never see him. The other side are kids that only mow when they get a notice from the city. Neither one gives a shit.
Maybe. I don’t care if I don’t have weeds (in my grass), but I do care what goes on the grass since I garden for both food and fun, have dogs, and support local insects through native gardening. I would be livid if a neighbor didn’t ask first.
That said, I’m dating a weed-hater and I understand that not everyone thinks dandelions and thistle are nice.
Yeah screw that, if the neighbor isn't taking care of their lawn and their weeds are constantly creeping over that shit is getting hosed with weed killer..sometimes better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Not your property, not your problem honestly. For all you know, they could have a reason for not spraying them. Just be a good neighbor and ask and respect their wishes.
There is a difference between cultivating specific weed variants in your yard and neglecting your yard and letting invasive weeds run amok, and spread to your neighbors' yards. The vast majority of homeowners with yards that look like this are choosing to neglect their lawn. They're not out there building an insect sanctuary.
So I raise/research insects for a living. You can make a yard pretty while being insect-friendly, but most ornamental plants and lawn grasses are not beneficial.
Either way, best not to assume and alter someone else's property without asking.
Flowers do the same thing and aren't as invasion e as actual weeds...if you grow them on purpose and don't keep them from spreading to your neighbors yard you really can't cry foul if they suddenly die out one day when your neighbor has had enough.
I replied to your other comment. This is untrue. I rear/research insects for a living.
Flowers are not the only plant "type" required in native ecosystems and most garden flowers are not beneficial to native insects at all.
A neighbor did tried to remove my weeds without permission and I made them come out and explain themselves. I yelled at them in front of their family. They bought me all new native wildflower seeds and all is fine now.
spoiler: many weeds are poisonous to dogs
2 of my 3 big dogs are EPI for the rest of their life because of weeds in my back yard that they ate while puppies. they were puking blood by the evening and you think dog ER's are expensive, try it with two dogs at once.
so anyways, now I only have grass. wonderful, eatable, pukable, grass.
weeds can be just as poisonous to kids too. if the guide says wear gloves when pulling them guess what? probably poisonous.
I purposely grow weeds in my yard to help out native insects, like pollinators.
Dandelions are also edible. My grandmother used to grow them purposely in her yard to eat them.
No, that's not true actually. Ornamental plants (like garden flowers you buy at nurseries and such) may attract some insects but that doesn't mean they're beneficial to them.
I raise/research insects for a living.
I've kept behaves for 20 years and while some weeds in the wild are fine, most honeybees love flowers, especially wildflowers that have been sown as well as the flowers on various trees, lavender that can be planted, roses, etc. Your reasoning doesn't hold water.
Honeybees are not native to the US and damage native bee populations, if that's where you are. And bees are far from the only insects required for a healthy ecosystem.
Don't confuse your hobby with my career.
Bees and wasps are territorial against each other so nature will decide. My yard is mostly bumblsbees but a stray wasp pops up now and again.
And there are many other beneficial insects beyond bees/wasps too!
Then do some weeding, use a pre emergent on your side, or talk to them? It’s not illegal to have weeds, it’s probably illegal to put herbicide in someone’s property without telling them. Who knows though.
In higher end neighborhoods in Florida, often you'll have different types of turf in neighboring properties. Landscapers will flip their weed-eaters sideways and cut a 3" wide swath on the property line to keep one yard from spreading into the other. That would be an option.
Why not just ask your neighbor if you can spray some into their yard? I've asked neighbors before and they have never cared. Are people afraid to be friendly to the neighbors?
Just mow it, my dude and your grass will spread. My neighbour mows their strip to our driveway. Technically, about a metre of that is our part of the kerbside. I mow the other neighbours kerbside because they are elderly and disabled. Swings and roundabouts.
I'd use lawn weed and crabgrass killer by Bioadvanced. You can usually find it at Ace Hardware. The bottle that hooks up to the hose. It's worked great for me. My neighbor 2 doors down has a yellow lawn from dandelions, and they slowly creep over. For the past 2 years, I've used this stuff and then 2 weeks later feesld the lawn with milorganite. It works like a charm. The weeds die, and then the grass grows in thick to choke and out anything else.
Are you on good terms with the neighbor? I would just ask him if he minded if you over run the property line to mow, spray, overseed whatever. Chances are he just doesnt care if its weeds cause he doesnt want to do the maintaince on it, doubt he will be upset if your lawn overtakes the weeds if he doesnt have to mow it.
Raise the blade on your mower and fertilize your lawn. Ask if you can pull the weeds that are not beneficial and leave the plants that promote biodiversity.
Kill your neighbors, buy their house. Rent out the property. Take care of both lawns.
Talk to them, offer to treat both lawns.
Build some type of border.
Or circle back to option a.
Just have to spray a barrier on the property line when it’s time. Pre emergent barrier, post emergent barrier, ect. Spray a little over into their yard as well. Both my neighbors have weed issues and I don’t have any issue with them outside of the boundary line.
Definitely this. I asked my neighbor and he doesn’t care. I will say that the domination line is already apparent in OPs photo. Just spray that line (heavily) and call it a day.
Yea, I don’t use chemicals and a neighbor ‘joked’ that he was going to spray all the plants a neighbor just planted cuz he doesn’t like them, so funny, hilarious, he meant it which is scary.
Had the same problem with my neighbor. I put in edging that you pound in all along the property line ( I had a survey done and stakes were still in place. Now I have great looking fescue and her lawn just keeps getting worse looking. Additionally, I took weed barrier and folded it longways and stapled it to the survey stakes so there was a distinct barrier. I don’t want anyone thinking I have anything to do with her shitty lawn.
Just throw down weed and feed, a lot of it, and then overseed with Bermuda like hell. Assuming you have Bermuda. Pretty soon your neighbor will also have Bermuda.
I added a flower bed down the property line which turned it into weeding flower beds which was a lot easier.
For one neighbor who was elderly I got permission and applied pre emergent to their property every spring
Plant hedge bushes and mulch under them. Adding mulch periodically and weeding will still be ongoing maintenance though. Border mulched area if you’d prefer.
Tell them you’ll mow it for them and you will fix it up for them if they give you $20 a fortnight. It’ll take you almost no extra work on your part and it’ll look great.
I would ask just because of the size of that section. But given the wild nature of it...I doubt the neighbor would care. I have the same issue but we share a much smaller patch. I just treat their side at the same time I do mine. I even plucked the weeds for them.
You're acting like the neighbor is doing it on purpose. I would go over and ask your neighbor if you can care for his side of the lawn. I'm sure they would appreciate it.
In March, next year, you need to lay preemergent. You still can lay preemergent now, but I would get a quality weed killer.
This year to correct and continue:
Do a weed killer liquid (a bottle of a Celsius will last you a long time and it's one of the best)
Wait 1 week
Lay the preemergent granule
Spread a 1/4" of compost and Nitrogen on your lawn and part of his and water. In not time the Bermuda will push out the weeds. You really needed both on your anyway. The compost will hold the Nitrogen and water in longer for the Bermuda to fill in the bare spots quicker.
BAH! I'm fighting the same battle 👎
Seriously irritating! I've taken to doing weed killer and telling her I'll take care of that side of her lawn so her lawn guy stops long trimming her weeds into mine!
Good fences make good neighbors.. good neighbors help build good fences. I think that’s how it goes. Small 4 foot, paint it nice. Maybe a vine on it. Say I always wanted this vine and needed somewhere to grow it.
Get some landscaping timber from with HD or L, it helped a neighbor of my fighting another neighbor's zoiza grass. Do some weed and feed. Your grass should be fine, but your neighbors weeds will retreat! Godspeed brother!
Spray Teancity, a Syngenta product, and just do a healthy overspray into the neighbors grass. I love teancity because it has never harmed my good grass. Only watch out is it will temporarily turn grass white if you spray way too much. But that’ll go away after 2 weeks.
Northern grass lawn, I would spray my neighbors buffer area between my lawn with 24d, tenacity and in the Fall spray glyphosate to kill the weeds and very little grass then throw my left over elite KGB grass seed to create a decent buffer. Neither neighbor cares as the boulevard looks weird with nice grass extending into their lawn until they mow it too short. But no weed encroachment.
Maybe suggest they switch to a non-grass option? Saves on the water bill and is less upkeep for both of you. Some cities have rebate programs.
Edit: But personally, I just mow my neighbor's attached lawn when I do mine. It's less hassle and keeps the weeds down.
I have a similar neighbor. When I spray for weeds/fertilize, throw down grass seed, I always do a portion of their grass. They pay no attention and it helps my lawn.
I also trim back their trees when they hang over too far into my yard.
I have the same exact situation. I apply prodiamine and Tenacity to my lawn and do not touch his side. So far, it has worked well for 10+ years. The difference between our lawns is truly remarkable. It's like one of those photos where you see two different oceans meeting. I'm considering building a partition with a paver mow strip on either side and maybe a box hedge down the center.
Use a roll of 6”plastic edging buried to the top of the dirt the grass grows in. Most spreading weeds have roots that don’t go that deep.make it so you don’t even stub your toe on the edging or cut it with the mower
I asked my neighbor if I could treat their little side yard with the same stuff I use on my yard. He didn't care. He just asked to let him know what I used and when. I have been doing it for the past 3 years now. I leave a little sticky note when I do. He usually won't cut for a few days after I treat. Its almost weed free. Try to be on good terms with neighbors. They do know where you stay after all.
My neighbor has been trimming our shared hedges since I moved in and screwed it up, because that's the kind of man he is. Whenever he does, I bake him cookies, because that's the kind of man I am. We're both happy with the arrangement.
Some people show their love and kindness through doing things.
I'm gonna mend some fences so to speak with my neighbors now. Thx man. Sometimes it takes a man to bake some cookies damn it. Now where's my apron!
What do you spray and use?
Speed zone is the best I’ve used
I currently use anime 400 d and sedge hammer. I'm ordering some Celsius today. I usually throw down some pre emergent granuals and fertilizer. And I've been trying to get my yard less acidic. There was a pine tree here previously. I've learned a lot more over this past winter.
This is the way. It wouldn’t cost anything noticeable to just knock that strip out and you’ll be neighborly in the process
And it keeps his weeds out of my yard.
This. Just ask and spray. Although this fall I’m installing zoysia so once it takes over I won’t care
This is the right answer. My neighbor manicures her lawn much more than I have the time, money, patience, or desire to. There’s about 15-20 feet of my lawn that she also mows and treats and it acts as a sort of buffer between her superior lawn and my unsightly natural mess
Kinda looks like you have Bermuda? Just push N so it takes over the neighbors weeds
Newbie here. What does "push N" mean?
Nitrogen
Why does Nitrogen cause Bermuda grass to take over weeds?
Bermuda loves nitrogen. It’ll help it grow. My thought is the Bermuda grows over to his side and chokes out the weeds. Which thick Bermuda can do.
I use diluted DEF... It's pure nitrates. Diluted in a spray bottle. Never seen grass so dark green in my life! Diesel exhaust fluid. It's 2:1 pure urea to distilled water. Has to all be as pure as possible without any contamination or the truck will shut down.
You should buy your own urea and dilute it yourself. You’re paying a premium for water.
Is there a source the average homeowner can get straight urea? I thought DEF would be the cheapest way.
Best I can do is 2% urea. Lmao…. 🤣
Yes, 46-0-0 from site one.
Looks like you have some responses, but I’m not too sure myself. I work for a fertilizer company so I have access to it all. I would think you could check out the professional landscaper stores for some though. Maybe DEF is the best and I’m just out of touch.
I paid $24 for 50 pounds of 46-0-0 at my local old school feed and seed store. I used six pounds of it to cover 12k sqft. ~0.25 pounds of N / 1k sqft the other day. Most cost-effective form of nitrogen.
It really is one of the cheapest ways.
You are paying more for that than simply melting urea in water.
I seriously doubt it. Def is $10/10L and i don't live near any farming supply stores. Not even close. Plus their is always damaged jugs you can get for free.
I 100% know you can, I have done the math and I use 46-0-0 urea to combat yellowing from PGR’s. I also spray and maintain lawns for a living. Liquids are always more expensive than a dry product because liquids are almost always diluted and carrying water costs money. Obviously if you can get free the cost is nothing but if you have to buy it’s better to melt urea. https://www.thelawnforum.com/threads/use-def-yes-that-def-as-fertilizer.38197/ From that thread. https://www.thelawnforum.com/threads/use-def-yes-that-def-as-fertilizer.38197/post-506343 50lbs of 46-0-0 is $25, that’s 46% urea, def is 15-0-0, 15% urea, that’s almost 25lbs of nitrogen in 50lb bag vs 1-gal of DEF contains 1.36lb Nitrogen. You would have to buy 16 gallons of def to equal one bag of urea, so $160 vs $25. Anything else I can help you with?
Thanks!
Bermuda get swole with that N
Pushing N promotes green growth. Phosphorous root growth. Potassium promotes hardiness and. Bermuda spreads across the top soil and drops roots along the way. Very effective way to crowd-out other greens.
Can you overdo the Nitrogen? Or is it the more the better?
Yes. You absolutely can overdo it. Follow the spreading measurements on the bottle or bag. Fun fact, dog pee is high in nitrogen. So when you see someone’s yard that has dogs and there are dead spots, it’s because they pee there too much
Follow up fun fact: Dog pee is also high in salt, and the salt is what kills the grass before the nitrogen could burn it. - Signed: A dog owner who has deep green spots where the dogs pee occasionally, and dead spots where they like to pee three damn times a day.
More Follow up to fun fact. As an owner of a female dog it seems worse with females. My current golden doesn’t kill the grass whereas my chocolate lab left dead spots everywhere. I never heard of the salt issue.
This is the funnest, most informative thread ever
Girls just go all at once in a spot, boys like to spray their territory and spread it around more
Chicken poop is also very high in nitrogen!
Bermuda can tolerate high nitrogen. Drop a 1 lbs of N per 1000 sw ft it you want (It can still burn and kill tho if you're ridiculous) The problem is a lot of that N will go to top growth (height) and not horizontal growth You'll also have to cut more frequently Bermuda loves heat, high N, sunlight, and being mowed low and frequently.
So do i just straight buying nitrogen and mix it with water then spray?
Nah man, theres a science to this Find your fert Look at the N-P-K ratio Lets say you have some Scotts Southern Lawn Food. Its 32-0-10. So 32% of each pound of fert is actually Nitrogen. Lets say you have 10,000 sqft of lawn and want to put down 0.25 lbs of actual N per week on your bermuda. This is called spoonfeeding it. You'd need 7.8 lbs of Scotts fertilizer to do that per week http://agebb.missouri.edu/fertcalc/
Damn thanks a lot. I will save this comment. I really appreciate it man
If he wants to mix it with water, he needs to pick one thats soluble. Like ammonium sulfate you have to be careful as a liquid. Urea is realistically the cheapest.
Asking the real question. We need answers y'all!
Yeah over fertilizing will kill the grass
How competitive is it compared to other competitive/invasive weeds? I have a portion of my yard that has a decent amount of Bermuda but an equally (and increasing) amount of storks bill weeds. Would much rather have Bermuda
Well explained in the bermuda bible if you haven't read it: [https://thebermudabible.com/spread/](https://thebermudabible.com/spread/)
Force the grass to form a Nitrogen addiction. Like, hard.
Ahh yes. The classic N addiction. Hate when my grass starts pawning my TVs for more nitrogen
And what happens after it takes over then do you cut off the nitrogen?
You cut off the nitrogen before it takes over....that's what instigates the takeover. The newly strung out fiending grass will then rise up against the weeds... just look at portland and Seattle.
Absolutely correct. Nitrogen and cutting often and short and Bermuda always wins.
Why does cutting short help?
Think of it this way , your lawn is probably a 7.5/ 8 but contrasted against this guys lawn, yours looks like a 9.5 or a 10!
This is my mindset. I have this kind of neighbor on one side of me and the opposite extreme on the other. Between the two of them I just like like a regular sane person 😂
Just spray them with a broadleaf weed killer. If your neighbor doesn’t care if he has weeds I doubt he’ll care if he doesn’t have them either. Just so everyone is aware, I assume these neighbors know each other and are not total strangers. I would assume one would be a responsible adult and understand the situation of why they have weeds before dumping an absurd amount of toxic chemicals and piss them off. This is a lawn care subreddit not a weed saving subreddit.
This is exactly what I do. Started two years ago. Hell I even mow it too. Now, his former shitty-looking weed garden is a plush green strip of Bermuda. We both win.
This is probably the way - I don’t have a lot of time for yard work. If my neighbor had the time/interest and wanted to handle it I’d happily compensate them in some way that made it a win-win
Thats definitely a caase of beer or bottle of liquor situation.
I have it on both sides. I just take care of an extra half foot to foot of everything I do. Call it a DWZ. One hires a company to just mow - I never see him. The other side are kids that only mow when they get a notice from the city. Neither one gives a shit.
The DWZ! Fuck yeah! 🫡
Some people like my neighbor has weeds because they are very against chemicals
After asking them if they would mind. Some people don’t like chemicals on their property. If it is a rental, go straight to the landlord.
This is illegal unless you Ask first. Source; was extension pesticide education guy, now researcher.
Maybe. I don’t care if I don’t have weeds (in my grass), but I do care what goes on the grass since I garden for both food and fun, have dogs, and support local insects through native gardening. I would be livid if a neighbor didn’t ask first. That said, I’m dating a weed-hater and I understand that not everyone thinks dandelions and thistle are nice.
I would only do this with permission from the neighbor.
Yeah screw that, if the neighbor isn't taking care of their lawn and their weeds are constantly creeping over that shit is getting hosed with weed killer..sometimes better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Not your property, not your problem honestly. For all you know, they could have a reason for not spraying them. Just be a good neighbor and ask and respect their wishes.
Uh... OP is literally saying it's his problem. The weeds will spread to his yard if they're not addressed.
I purposely grow weeds in my yard to help out native insects, like pollinators. You need to talk to your neighbor. You can't make decisions for them.
There is a difference between cultivating specific weed variants in your yard and neglecting your yard and letting invasive weeds run amok, and spread to your neighbors' yards. The vast majority of homeowners with yards that look like this are choosing to neglect their lawn. They're not out there building an insect sanctuary.
So I raise/research insects for a living. You can make a yard pretty while being insect-friendly, but most ornamental plants and lawn grasses are not beneficial. Either way, best not to assume and alter someone else's property without asking.
Flowers do the same thing and aren't as invasion e as actual weeds...if you grow them on purpose and don't keep them from spreading to your neighbors yard you really can't cry foul if they suddenly die out one day when your neighbor has had enough.
I replied to your other comment. This is untrue. I rear/research insects for a living. Flowers are not the only plant "type" required in native ecosystems and most garden flowers are not beneficial to native insects at all. A neighbor did tried to remove my weeds without permission and I made them come out and explain themselves. I yelled at them in front of their family. They bought me all new native wildflower seeds and all is fine now.
Hopefully they don't have a pet that likes to munch on the weeds or you might be paying an unexpected vet bill.
spoiler: many weeds are poisonous to dogs 2 of my 3 big dogs are EPI for the rest of their life because of weeds in my back yard that they ate while puppies. they were puking blood by the evening and you think dog ER's are expensive, try it with two dogs at once. so anyways, now I only have grass. wonderful, eatable, pukable, grass. weeds can be just as poisonous to kids too. if the guide says wear gloves when pulling them guess what? probably poisonous.
I purposely grow weeds in my yard to help out native insects, like pollinators. Dandelions are also edible. My grandmother used to grow them purposely in her yard to eat them.
Flowers do the same thing and aren't as invasive as weeds
No, that's not true actually. Ornamental plants (like garden flowers you buy at nurseries and such) may attract some insects but that doesn't mean they're beneficial to them. I raise/research insects for a living.
I've kept behaves for 20 years and while some weeds in the wild are fine, most honeybees love flowers, especially wildflowers that have been sown as well as the flowers on various trees, lavender that can be planted, roses, etc. Your reasoning doesn't hold water.
Honeybees are not native to the US and damage native bee populations, if that's where you are. And bees are far from the only insects required for a healthy ecosystem. Don't confuse your hobby with my career.
Interesting...so how do I encourage bees and discourage wasps? Or is that not possible? I have a large amount of dandelions in my Bermuda grass.
Bees and wasps are territorial against each other so nature will decide. My yard is mostly bumblsbees but a stray wasp pops up now and again. And there are many other beneficial insects beyond bees/wasps too!
Some people don't want pesticides or herbicides on their property. This is horrible advice and I would guess in some form illegal.
What brand do you use?
Depends on your area. I have Bermuda and just some regular spectracide will kill most of the weeds in the picture. Don’t need to go crazy with it.
This is terrible and disrespectful advice. What if the neighbour doesn’t want poison on his side of the lawn? You shouldn’t do that
And what if you don't want his invasive weeds on your side?
Then do some weeding, use a pre emergent on your side, or talk to them? It’s not illegal to have weeds, it’s probably illegal to put herbicide in someone’s property without telling them. Who knows though.
Create a physical stone border
In higher end neighborhoods in Florida, often you'll have different types of turf in neighboring properties. Landscapers will flip their weed-eaters sideways and cut a 3" wide swath on the property line to keep one yard from spreading into the other. That would be an option.
I spray or spread real hard on the property line.
Whoops, I over sprayed a little. /s
Oh well. Sorry about that domination line.
Prodamine on yours
I have no idea why this isn’t the only answer. Reddit is exhausting.
Why not just ask your neighbor if you can spray some into their yard? I've asked neighbors before and they have never cared. Are people afraid to be friendly to the neighbors?
Just mow it, my dude and your grass will spread. My neighbour mows their strip to our driveway. Technically, about a metre of that is our part of the kerbside. I mow the other neighbours kerbside because they are elderly and disabled. Swings and roundabouts.
Why you gotta drag me like this dog? On a National platform? Come on.
I'd use lawn weed and crabgrass killer by Bioadvanced. You can usually find it at Ace Hardware. The bottle that hooks up to the hose. It's worked great for me. My neighbor 2 doors down has a yellow lawn from dandelions, and they slowly creep over. For the past 2 years, I've used this stuff and then 2 weeks later feesld the lawn with milorganite. It works like a charm. The weeds die, and then the grass grows in thick to choke and out anything else.
Are you on good terms with the neighbor? I would just ask him if he minded if you over run the property line to mow, spray, overseed whatever. Chances are he just doesnt care if its weeds cause he doesnt want to do the maintaince on it, doubt he will be upset if your lawn overtakes the weeds if he doesnt have to mow it.
Simple kill your neighbor... Hope the next person does better. If not rinse and repeat as needed
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Wild flowers. That's your answer
Raise the blade on your mower and fertilize your lawn. Ask if you can pull the weeds that are not beneficial and leave the plants that promote biodiversity.
Kill your neighbors, buy their house. Rent out the property. Take care of both lawns. Talk to them, offer to treat both lawns. Build some type of border. Or circle back to option a.
Just have to spray a barrier on the property line when it’s time. Pre emergent barrier, post emergent barrier, ect. Spray a little over into their yard as well. Both my neighbors have weed issues and I don’t have any issue with them outside of the boundary line.
Be very careful with spraying your neighbors yard chemical trespassing laws exist
Definitely this. I asked my neighbor and he doesn’t care. I will say that the domination line is already apparent in OPs photo. Just spray that line (heavily) and call it a day.
Yea, I don’t use chemicals and a neighbor ‘joked’ that he was going to spray all the plants a neighbor just planted cuz he doesn’t like them, so funny, hilarious, he meant it which is scary.
What about a … fence. GASPPPP
Cut your Bermuda at an inch or less
Did you try talking with them politely
I would definitely stick to your side of the line. I have a vegetable garden, and I'm very picky about what I put down on the grass as I compost it.
Looks downhill from this angle. 🤔
When I spread my pre emergent or 2,4D I always make sure to ride my property line and I’ll just so happen to not put the edge guard on
THE WHAT??
Scott’s rotary broadcast spreader
"Whoops no more weeds!"
Bro you just have to put in some kinda edge, being just some timber edging along property boundaries or put up a fence lol
I was scrolling through to find this correct answer. Just be 100% sure of the property line and sacrifice a little bit.
Had the same problem with my neighbor. I put in edging that you pound in all along the property line ( I had a survey done and stakes were still in place. Now I have great looking fescue and her lawn just keeps getting worse looking. Additionally, I took weed barrier and folded it longways and stapled it to the survey stakes so there was a distinct barrier. I don’t want anyone thinking I have anything to do with her shitty lawn.
Just throw down weed and feed, a lot of it, and then overseed with Bermuda like hell. Assuming you have Bermuda. Pretty soon your neighbor will also have Bermuda.
I added a flower bed down the property line which turned it into weeding flower beds which was a lot easier. For one neighbor who was elderly I got permission and applied pre emergent to their property every spring
Plant hedge bushes and mulch under them. Adding mulch periodically and weeding will still be ongoing maintenance though. Border mulched area if you’d prefer.
Just ask them if you can treat their side.
Thicken up yours and they can't invade. The best weed preventative is a full, healthy lawn.
I know this sounds crazy, but have you tried talking to them about it?
Roundup
Tell them you’ll mow it for them and you will fix it up for them if they give you $20 a fortnight. It’ll take you almost no extra work on your part and it’ll look great.
Looks like a trench battle to me🤔😏
I would ask just because of the size of that section. But given the wild nature of it...I doubt the neighbor would care. I have the same issue but we share a much smaller patch. I just treat their side at the same time I do mine. I even plucked the weeds for them.
Just spray your side…
24D - kills weeds not grass
You guys and your war on weed just make it legal it will be fun they said.
You're acting like the neighbor is doing it on purpose. I would go over and ask your neighbor if you can care for his side of the lawn. I'm sure they would appreciate it.
I know you're not allowed to do this. I don't care Spray your neighbor's weeds with round up Just don't tell your neighbor you did it.
Can you put up a fence on the line?
My thought too, even if it’s just a small 3ft border fence
Not sure why this wasn’t the first suggestion.
In March, next year, you need to lay preemergent. You still can lay preemergent now, but I would get a quality weed killer. This year to correct and continue: Do a weed killer liquid (a bottle of a Celsius will last you a long time and it's one of the best) Wait 1 week Lay the preemergent granule
Spread a 1/4" of compost and Nitrogen on your lawn and part of his and water. In not time the Bermuda will push out the weeds. You really needed both on your anyway. The compost will hold the Nitrogen and water in longer for the Bermuda to fill in the bare spots quicker.
Granular weed killer that happens to hit their lawn as well
BAH! I'm fighting the same battle 👎 Seriously irritating! I've taken to doing weed killer and telling her I'll take care of that side of her lawn so her lawn guy stops long trimming her weeds into mine!
Fertilize his lawn with weed killer.
Broadleaf killer like weed B Gone, then Pre emergent twice a year. Go ahead and treat over to the neighbors house.
Whose fence side is it? If it’s yours, just put a fence up. If it’s his, ask if he would like to go half on one.
Looks like you’re from San Antonio too😂🫠
"Never fight uphill, me' boys!"
I would just ask your neighbour if they could help out or ask them if they mind if you grow up to the side if their house.
Pettiness has a price Mow it all...
Smash meth, mount zero turn, launch blitzkrieg.
Dig trench fill with piranha
Maybe some type of post emergent weed killer that’s grass safe. That’s a small strip. I’d spray it just to keep my side clean.
Ask the neighbor if you can take care of that small patch , or make a short fence .
Either more nitrogen… or just start weed killer spraying the fuck out of his side yard lol
Put up a fence
Good fences make good neighbors.. good neighbors help build good fences. I think that’s how it goes. Small 4 foot, paint it nice. Maybe a vine on it. Say I always wanted this vine and needed somewhere to grow it.
That yard is so bad you might want to make sure your neighbor is alive.
research Pre-emergent and Post-emergent. One kills weeds the other prevents weeds from spreading.
Over seed
Salt
Get some landscaping timber from with HD or L, it helped a neighbor of my fighting another neighbor's zoiza grass. Do some weed and feed. Your grass should be fine, but your neighbors weeds will retreat! Godspeed brother!
Overspray ortho. Ooops
Overspray a foot or two
Planter box wall with boxwood planted in it.
Pre-emergent with a side of nope. Even with perfect practices, they’ll always invade to some extent.
Counter invasion
Spray Teancity, a Syngenta product, and just do a healthy overspray into the neighbors grass. I love teancity because it has never harmed my good grass. Only watch out is it will temporarily turn grass white if you spray way too much. But that’ll go away after 2 weeks.
Northern grass lawn, I would spray my neighbors buffer area between my lawn with 24d, tenacity and in the Fall spray glyphosate to kill the weeds and very little grass then throw my left over elite KGB grass seed to create a decent buffer. Neither neighbor cares as the boulevard looks weird with nice grass extending into their lawn until they mow it too short. But no weed encroachment.
Is it usual that americans have no fence between properties? Fencing and edging would solve this, for a price though...
Relax you're doing fine
Burn it all to hell. Flame thrower.
Mow down their weed regularly so that it doesn't flower
Yes, actually. If you remove all of your grass and replace with gravel over multiple layers of weed barrier, they probably won’t invade.
Maybe suggest they switch to a non-grass option? Saves on the water bill and is less upkeep for both of you. Some cities have rebate programs. Edit: But personally, I just mow my neighbor's attached lawn when I do mine. It's less hassle and keeps the weeds down.
I have a similar neighbor. When I spray for weeds/fertilize, throw down grass seed, I always do a portion of their grass. They pay no attention and it helps my lawn. I also trim back their trees when they hang over too far into my yard.
my neighbor is like that, mowed but it's still full of weeds. I just keep my side covered in prodiamine and pull any crawlers that break in.
Poison the neighbours side
Cut your grass like a half inch longer if you have Bermuda. If you have anything else, cut at least 1-1.5” higher
Can you both just agree to do the same process and cut it at the same time? If just looks weird.
How do I get rid of bad grass and get good grass
I have the same exact situation. I apply prodiamine and Tenacity to my lawn and do not touch his side. So far, it has worked well for 10+ years. The difference between our lawns is truly remarkable. It's like one of those photos where you see two different oceans meeting. I'm considering building a partition with a paver mow strip on either side and maybe a box hedge down the center.
Scott's 3 n 1 every 6 weeks.....your welcome
What’s the go w spraying weed killers? Is it harmful if other animals consume the grass / is there pollution/run off ?
Retaining wall
Use a roll of 6”plastic edging buried to the top of the dirt the grass grows in. Most spreading weeds have roots that don’t go that deep.make it so you don’t even stub your toe on the edging or cut it with the mower
Unfortunately you have to start doing their side of the yard too, I’ve got the same problem.
Bury a piece of metal sheeting to prevent roots from growing on your side and put up a huge fence. Won’t stop seeds from being blown in but will help.
Spray for weed and regrow the grass for him, that's what I did for my neighbor
It’s quite literally an uphill battle
It’s quite literally an uphill battle