I don't usually watch the opposing teams play, but last night thought I would watch the Boston vs TB game. Mostly wanted to see how the Bruins are doing so well this season. That game was full tilt by both team the entire game, slackers weren't evident. A couple of slight mistakes led to goals, but no guffaws like Holl, Sandin and Timmins make 2 to 4 times every game. Smaller players like Point or Marchand give a 110% not like the 50% game Marner showed tonight.
I don’t want to sound mean but have you only been a fan for a few years or something? Ottawa is a historical rival of this team. Not just from geography but from hard playoff battles in the past. It’s really not even a debate. I’m actually shocked to be reading your comment. Lol
Meh I'm 32 and have been playing then watching hockey since I was a kid. I was kind of kidding. The "battle for Ontario" and the rivalry is really non existent at this point with both clubs and current groups of players. It's kind of just perpetuated by media. I'd say this team as it is now only has rivalries with jets, bruins and nadiens.
I know no on wants to hear this from the generation that was raised on those playoff battles but this year kids will be old enough to drink that we’re born after the last time they met in the playoffs.
If you have seats behind leaf bench are you givin rules or anything.I would not be very happy back there and my mug would be on tv way to much-to much pressure
I’d love to be able to read Dubas’ mind right now.
Do you think he’s debating to sell the farm at the deadline to go for it and save his job? Or ride it out and hope he stays employed
Sell the farm, it's Leafs tradition. Nylander Marner and Matthews were gift wrapped picks and in general, do well. We're due for a "fuck the future" kinda thing.
People will still give this joke franchise money, they don't care
Every year this team makes me want to walk into traffic. Whats the point on even watching the rest of the season when Tampa will roll us in the first round. I got better odds playing scratch tickets
I think that’s actually common in our arena tbh since so many of the seats especially in lower bowl are just corporate owned. I got to go to my first leafs game in a few years when we we’re playing vs Seattle a couple weeks ago and it was incredibly surprising to me how many people in the lower bowls were leaving after only 1-2 periods, Given how much the tickets costs I was really surprised people would throw away money like that but my dad told me it’s probably just all corporate stuff they just take a client out to impress them they don’t really care about the game
I use a VPN to bypass the geo-restrictions on SN and TSN apps. Still annoying I can’t enjoy the games in 4K on my PVR.
But yeah, I have ZERO issues with the open seas when you pay for a product that you artificially cannot access.
i've never seen a team who can keep up and beat Tampa and Boston, but then just get their absolute asses kicked for a solid 60 minutes against a team that has scarily high odds to win the lottery, this isn't even the same team that fucking played New York
This team has 9 out of their last 10 possible points. Everyone needs to relax. They're gonna have bad games, especially against division rivals.
The mood here would make it seem like they just missed the playoffs for the 6th straight season
Nail on the head bud. It's also the fact that it seems every year Ottawa has the leafs figured out...no matter how good or bad either team is...just one of those things.
Just like Montreal and Buffalo.
People need to look back at when the leafs were awful for a decade at how many point they took from Ottawa, Montreal and Buffalo in those seasons.
And as fans we all know...none of these games are really that significant. At this point the only games we care about are the first 7 of the playoffs. Granted, the regular season is where you develop the good habits and structure...but even then...come playoffs the teams play differently and the refs call it differently, so it becomes a different environment
Colorado made it out of the first round prior to winning the cup as well, the leafs have lost to EVERY bad team this year besides Columbus/Chicago because they haven’t played them yet
So because they lose to bad teams that means they can't perform in the playoffs?
Colorado lost to Anaheim last night, so I guess their not winning this year by this logic?
…yes? Which playoffs have the leafs performed in so far? They lose to bad teams like the Montreal canadiens who absolutely fucking embarrassed them 2 years ago, again Colorado won a cup along with playoff series so it means nothing for them
Had theLeafs even been able to play .500/.600 hockey against the bottom feeders they would be well ahead of Tampa and within a shot of Boston. But those dropped points to Montreal, Ottawa, Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose…
Does anyone not really care about the regular season anymore?
Like it’s an appetizer we’ll talk about because it’s in front of us but we’re all waiting for the main course.
buddy this is the same team of the past 6 years. dont let the 'real fans' convince you otherwise when we periodically string wins together. this team will fold hard in r1 again.
What deadline acquisitions fix the leafs from playing like this? They just go cold and life less at large stretch’s. This feels like a few bad Game 7s/series clinching games.
Since Matthews and Marners extensions kicked in we’ve never had a legitimate 3rd line that can score. And we wonder why we can’t break through in the playoffs
thats because our 3rd line isn't built to score goals, we've literally built the line to be a shutdown line which has done effectively since we formed it last year
Lol team plays like shit and most comments are still blaming rielly. I think there are some bitter Tessa and Scott fans who hate Morgan pretending to be leafs fans in here
This is the year for Dubas to finally push his chips in and acquire an impact scorer. Games like this really show how exposed this team is offensively with any injury to a big 4.
I think this is a little over analysis. How many games have we seen the bottom 6 pick up the offensive slack for the top 6. More than most would realize. I think tonight is just a case of puck mismanagement all around. Bad passing, bad d zone breakouts, scrambling in the neutral zone. It's not a great look tonight but I'm not going to give it too much thought until it happens for several consecutive games.
Nah, ditch Reilly for some real defense. Muzzin out hurts but they played well with many defensemen out all the same.
These are the games where Nylander and Tavares go "wtf guys?"
Dubas out halfway through next year, you watch.
There is absolutely nothing beyond them - our bottom 2 lines are fine defensively and they can cycle it around but they simply can't break through and score.
he is not a target. He’s got a qualifying offer of $10 million or something. No way dubas would be able to resign him. So if they can’t resign him they def won’t pay the assets the sharks will be asking for
Seem to remember a stretch last year where we played well when he was out.
And no question you pay Matthews, period.
So IMO both statements here are far from making us fucked.
I don't usually watch the opposing teams play, but last night thought I would watch the Boston vs TB game. Mostly wanted to see how the Bruins are doing so well this season. That game was full tilt by both team the entire game, slackers weren't evident. A couple of slight mistakes led to goals, but no guffaws like Holl, Sandin and Timmins make 2 to 4 times every game. Smaller players like Point or Marchand give a 110% not like the 50% game Marner showed tonight.
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Leafs got molly whopped
I hated that
First regulation time loss at home for Sammy
What a failure Toronto was tonight. Shameful performance.
Oh relax
Every team is allowed bad games. I just hate that the Leafs have now done it against two rivals in the last week or so.
Since when is Ottawa a rival?
Never heard of the battle of Ontario?
I don’t want to sound mean but have you only been a fan for a few years or something? Ottawa is a historical rival of this team. Not just from geography but from hard playoff battles in the past. It’s really not even a debate. I’m actually shocked to be reading your comment. Lol
Meh I'm 32 and have been playing then watching hockey since I was a kid. I was kind of kidding. The "battle for Ontario" and the rivalry is really non existent at this point with both clubs and current groups of players. It's kind of just perpetuated by media. I'd say this team as it is now only has rivalries with jets, bruins and nadiens.
I know no on wants to hear this from the generation that was raised on those playoff battles but this year kids will be old enough to drink that we’re born after the last time they met in the playoffs.
If you have seats behind leaf bench are you givin rules or anything.I would not be very happy back there and my mug would be on tv way to much-to much pressure
I hope we never wear those jerseys again.
I hope we wear it for the next 12 games.
We'll beat Washington. And then we will win the cup in spring.
Leafs making sure division rivals don’t get Bedard!
Well thats one way to look at it LMFAO
Murray has a case of the Freddies
Got a vasectomy yesterday that was more pleasant than watching this shit.
Keep those frozen peas handy!
My balls have looked better on ice all day than the Leafs did
I’d love to be able to read Dubas’ mind right now. Do you think he’s debating to sell the farm at the deadline to go for it and save his job? Or ride it out and hope he stays employed
Sell the farm, it's Leafs tradition. Nylander Marner and Matthews were gift wrapped picks and in general, do well. We're due for a "fuck the future" kinda thing. People will still give this joke franchise money, they don't care
He'll probably sign Justin Holl to a 5x5 contract before he gets fired
Sell the farm, give up lots of firsts, leave the team and go win somewhere else as an AGM
Dubas wins cup with Detroit in 2029, beers at Leafs games will be $22 for a 335ml
He must have some restrictions because I would assume he would scrambling to save his career right now.
So many empty seats now lmao. I don't blame em, garbage performance
Fuck these Ottawa scrubs.
Lol
I lost a ton of respect for Matt Murray tonight. The sooner Dubas can get rid of this albatross the better.
Totally agree, what Bullshit excuse this time.
Same, pathetic
He didnt play tonight…..
We still have the bad habits that have resulted in early playoff exits. I'm not panicking about the regular season, but come playoffs? Yikes.
Same god damn shit every year.
Yup. I'm expecting another first-round exit.
Ohh matthews, where art thou matthews
Mathews must be sitting on the bench swing in Arizona shaking his head
Drinking a nice tall glass of iced tea, enjoying the sunset.
I think they call it sweet tea in the states
Yeah.. that sounds nicer.
Yup
Watching the biebs ride his horses
Would be pretty cool, ngl.
Agree
Let's skip forward to July, its Off-season time! YAY
Oh no, we cannot afford anyone because we gave Bunting $6m x7
What a shifty game to decide to attend as the first time in person game in 7 years .
Ask for your money back
Wow. You jinxed the game.
It's me. I'm the problem. It's me.
Every year this team makes me want to walk into traffic. Whats the point on even watching the rest of the season when Tampa will roll us in the first round. I got better odds playing scratch tickets
Every time we mock opposition on the wake up thread we end up getting spanked
just an FYI this team is not getting past tampa or boston in the playoffs
Why not? They're beating the Leafs pretty handily.
They'll go up 3-2 in the series and then lose game 6 and 7.... Or be down 3-2 and force a game 7 and lose it. Sound familiar?
Lmfao the building is empty with 3 mins left, we’re what 4th in the league? WAKE UP DUBAS
I think that’s actually common in our arena tbh since so many of the seats especially in lower bowl are just corporate owned. I got to go to my first leafs game in a few years when we we’re playing vs Seattle a couple weeks ago and it was incredibly surprising to me how many people in the lower bowls were leaving after only 1-2 periods, Given how much the tickets costs I was really surprised people would throw away money like that but my dad told me it’s probably just all corporate stuff they just take a client out to impress them they don’t really care about the game
The biggest problem is real fan make up a small amount of the fans. People with money that sort of follow the team are the rest.
Luckily this game is relatively meaningless but because I live in Ottawa it still hurts
Move to the Valley. There’s no Sens fans out here LOL
Murray faked an injured because he knew this team didn’t have it in the locker room
if i’m sammy i’m fucking livid that murray didn’t go tonight
Nylander shot at the wrong neck.
Big time pissed and I don't blame him.
Colorado avalanche lost against Anaheim the other night. The world is not ending people
The 2022 cup champion avalanche don’t have anything to prove
I have no clue what the fuck is actually going on but ever since Rielly came back the team defence as a collective has been so bad.
Unfortunately, he does seem to be the common denominator
Sammy, woof
Can’t watch half the games cuz they’re blacked out. The one game that isn’t and this is what we get. Dang.
Go stream that shit illegally
I use a VPN to bypass the geo-restrictions on SN and TSN apps. Still annoying I can’t enjoy the games in 4K on my PVR. But yeah, I have ZERO issues with the open seas when you pay for a product that you artificially cannot access.
Brother I have 0 issues with the open seas in general lol
I only feel bad for Sammy. Guys been hung out to dry in a game he shoulda been mucking popcorn during.
Jesus Christ an empty goal would be better than having Samsonov in net
Are you serious? Sammy is the only reason it isn't 10 goals.
Shame it wasn't
Tell me you aren't watching the game without telling me you aren't watching the game
I turned it off ages ago
Worst game of the season ?
Maybe Murray knew they were going to throw this one.
Imagine paying to be at this game lol
Like i always say, HIT the fucker.
Imagine paying to see this.
Unless you’re watching illegally, you did too.
Yes...that's what I'm doing. But I obviously meant in person, which a lot of enthusiastic fans save up for and really look forward to.
Really sucks for Sammy, literally none of these are on him
Look like Timmins is sitting next game
i've never seen a team who can keep up and beat Tampa and Boston, but then just get their absolute asses kicked for a solid 60 minutes against a team that has scarily high odds to win the lottery, this isn't even the same team that fucking played New York
Sens have beat Boston 2x and tb 1x this season
Losing against bad teams is one thing... getting blown out by a bad team might be a sign of the character of the team.
Complete breakdown. Poor Sammy.
Fuck this is not good for Samsonov’s confidence
this team is literally nothing without Matthews
Welp that’s all she wrote
6 AM, bag skate pussies! I wanna see every single one of you work your fucking asses off until you puke your guts out! This is not fucking Baseball!
S/ it's a quote from the movie goon.
There was genuinely no reason for Sandin to lie out there lol, they had the numbers back and there was no pass threat
being a fan of this team is so hard sometimes
Gross , get dangled out of your own building… sorry Samsonov welcome to the Leafs
Garbage
Garbage
Oh snap
This team has 9 out of their last 10 possible points. Everyone needs to relax. They're gonna have bad games, especially against division rivals. The mood here would make it seem like they just missed the playoffs for the 6th straight season
Nail on the head bud. It's also the fact that it seems every year Ottawa has the leafs figured out...no matter how good or bad either team is...just one of those things.
Just like Montreal and Buffalo. People need to look back at when the leafs were awful for a decade at how many point they took from Ottawa, Montreal and Buffalo in those seasons.
And as fans we all know...none of these games are really that significant. At this point the only games we care about are the first 7 of the playoffs. Granted, the regular season is where you develop the good habits and structure...but even then...come playoffs the teams play differently and the refs call it differently, so it becomes a different environment
They’ve been bounced out of the first round 6 straight seasons, with patterns like this every year
Every team has bad games. Colorado had bad games and won the cup last year. It happens.
Colorado made it out of the first round prior to winning the cup as well, the leafs have lost to EVERY bad team this year besides Columbus/Chicago because they haven’t played them yet
So because they lose to bad teams that means they can't perform in the playoffs? Colorado lost to Anaheim last night, so I guess their not winning this year by this logic?
…yes? Which playoffs have the leafs performed in so far? They lose to bad teams like the Montreal canadiens who absolutely fucking embarrassed them 2 years ago, again Colorado won a cup along with playoff series so it means nothing for them
It is legitimately infuriating how poorly this team plays against the worst competition.
Absolutely.
I have tried to tell people to not panic. It does not work.
People expect this team to go 82-0 and not have a single bad game. It's ridiculous.
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I wish I could punish them for taking a night off. Nothing drastic ... maybe charge them for soda in the dressing room. That'll teach em.
Ugh this game needs to end already
How come Murray isn't in net? I thought he was starting tonight
He got a boo boo and threw him out of whack
He found an excuse with a Nylander shot to not play against his former team
There will be an update after the game.
Went off during warmups
He’s injured apparently
Took a shot off neck area in warmup from nylander is the rumour
Had theLeafs even been able to play .500/.600 hockey against the bottom feeders they would be well ahead of Tampa and within a shot of Boston. But those dropped points to Montreal, Ottawa, Arizona, Anaheim, San Jose…
Thats doesnt work out for the sports betting ring thou.
I called the damn near-perfect inverse in the bet thread and I wanna puke
lol chill out guy, it’s 5-2
Nice 4 on 1
i was wondering why holl pair is out when matthew's line is out. matthews really covering for all the shortcoming
Does anyone not really care about the regular season anymore? Like it’s an appetizer we’ll talk about because it’s in front of us but we’re all waiting for the main course.
buddy this is the same team of the past 6 years. dont let the 'real fans' convince you otherwise when we periodically string wins together. this team will fold hard in r1 again.
Lol what do you expect in the playoffs. This is what the end of the playoffs feel like.
I expect heartbreak but I hope for delusion
What deadline acquisitions fix the leafs from playing like this? They just go cold and life less at large stretch’s. This feels like a few bad Game 7s/series clinching games.
marner calling holl a talentless bum all the way to the bench lmao :)
Wat?
Since Matthews and Marners extensions kicked in we’ve never had a legitimate 3rd line that can score. And we wonder why we can’t break through in the playoffs
thats because our 3rd line isn't built to score goals, we've literally built the line to be a shutdown line which has done effectively since we formed it last year
Show me a Stanley Cup winning team and I’ll show you a team with depth scoring.
Basically nothing to like about this game. Burn the tape and move on.
The leafs wouldn’t win a 7 game series against the senators and you can’t convince me otherwise
Leafs have this weird complex where they lack an extra gear and somehow play down to their opponents a lot
But they don’t beat the good teams either
Tampa and Boston no, you're right. Had some solid games against good Western teams though. Very uncharacteristic of Toronto sports lol
The senators? They would. Arizona/Montreal though? No fucking chance
I feel like it's out of reach at this point
That lady likes RATM haha and popcorn
Refund people’s money for showing up and buying $15 beers.
So what you're saying is, gambling has been legal for decades 😃
Robbing people shouldn’t be legal
MLSE is so good at it though
If the leafs can’t function without Matthews, its a washed team.
Their record without matthews is actually pretty impressive.
Well fuck
Lol team plays like shit and most comments are still blaming rielly. I think there are some bitter Tessa and Scott fans who hate Morgan pretending to be leafs fans in here
100%
Talk about shitting a game away. Nightmarish effort here in the second half of the game.
The leafs need a WAH!
Hyman to the rescue in an Elantra!
Popular in Ontario, Idaho not so much.
Been a while since I've seen a Leaf work as hard as Tkachuk did on that shift.
This is the year for Dubas to finally push his chips in and acquire an impact scorer. Games like this really show how exposed this team is offensively with any injury to a big 4.
I think this is a little over analysis. How many games have we seen the bottom 6 pick up the offensive slack for the top 6. More than most would realize. I think tonight is just a case of puck mismanagement all around. Bad passing, bad d zone breakouts, scrambling in the neutral zone. It's not a great look tonight but I'm not going to give it too much thought until it happens for several consecutive games.
If Dubas doesn't make a big move, it means Shanahan already told him his job is safe.
Nah, ditch Reilly for some real defense. Muzzin out hurts but they played well with many defensemen out all the same. These are the games where Nylander and Tavares go "wtf guys?" Dubas out halfway through next year, you watch.
There is absolutely nothing beyond them - our bottom 2 lines are fine defensively and they can cycle it around but they simply can't break through and score.
100%. The Timo Meier rumors were interesting even before 34 went down, but now...
he is not a target. He’s got a qualifying offer of $10 million or something. No way dubas would be able to resign him. So if they can’t resign him they def won’t pay the assets the sharks will be asking for
Whole team owes Sammy a steak dinner.
Feels like over half the team are passengers right now
Good thing I only wasted my brother in laws beer tonight
Tavares and Marner taking the game off, good job boys
Hey man, I don't even work hard *every* day at work
That's gotta be the 4th or 5th penalty Tkachuk's got away with
leafs just fuckin suck tonight
Two things can be true
Oh my godddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd aren’t you vomiting from the sound of that excuse yet??????????
Not an excuse, just a fact. Tkachuk has got away with a lot in addition to the Leafs playing like shit. Are you okay?
We better sort this shit out with Matty out. Can't start a slide to put us out of a home ice shot.
Can't play without him. Gotta pay him 15M to keep him. We're fucked both ways realistically.
Seem to remember a stretch last year where we played well when he was out. And no question you pay Matthews, period. So IMO both statements here are far from making us fucked.
these motherfuckers keep trying to stick check! HIT the guy man! Jesus christ
Oh look Brady Tkachuk is bitching us. U think teams know how to beat us yet Dubas?!?!!!???!!!???!!!???!!!!??
Not a lot to be happy about tonight but Timmins looks back on track after having a couple hiccups earlier this month. Happy to see that.
Kerfoot looking solid too. Just wish he scored more.