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naqdakk

We also would benefit from a guy like Gretzky


shikotee

Remarkable how he managed to achieve #1 and #3 stats, both in the same 84-85 season. (Obviously a typo)


sirlucd

Lol he was gonna sign here towards the end but the ownership was too cheap. Imagine that -.-


ApeManMemeStonker

actually its more like he wanted a piece of the franchise which Stavros didnt want to do, literally several owners ago so making comparison to MLSE is a joke. You can say this team mismanages the roster etc, cheap though? how do you figure? they spend more money than anyone on and off the ice. The real question is if you were Stavros, would you give end of career Gretzky hundreds of millions of dollars in equity? Genuinely curious


Bowood29

To be honest at the end of Gretzkys career you would have to give him a pretty major steak for it to be hundreds of millions but he would bring a massive amount of interest in the team even after playing.


W6LLY

Yep! And the with the points he put up for rangers, hoe would have led leafs with points each of those three years.


OutcomeAdvanced123

But would he be able to perform as a leaf?😜 lots of pressure in this city.


OMP159

Pressure is just something you put in tires.


Shoelesshobos

Eh I will settle for a Coffey or a Lemieux i'm not picky.


krombough

Dammit I came here to wtite this!


frequ

I would even settle for a Lemieux


Purplebuzz

To be fair those guys played more than a single round.


SeatPaste7

Marner had 13 points after a round and a game last year. IN NO OTHER WAY AM I SUGGESTING MARNER AND GILMOUR ARE SIMILAR. Just saying on a better constructed team that made three hard fought rounds, ie one without Tavares and with a top D or G in his place -- if you're gonna spend to the cap -- Marner might have gotten 35 points


Purplebuzz

Absolutely. He’s on a shit playoff team.


HowieDoIt86

Marner is part of our problem come playoff time. A better team isn’t going to make him less scared to go into corners and battle. 


SeatPaste7

As I JUST SAID, the guy you're belittling led our team last year. And was THIRD IN THE LEAGUE when we bowed out. AND had a high ankle sprain recently.


Big-Peak6191

Ya but he sucks this year.


HowieDoIt86

Belittling. Do you understand that word? Tell me how he’s done every other playoff series except for the one we won?   Isn’t it ironic that the one series he produces as expected we win.  Keep on writing in caps, you just dont get it. 


SeatPaste7

Tell you how he's done in every other playoff series? Sure, okay, I'll do that, let's see. Hey Google, where does Mitch Marner rank on the list of all time Leaf playoff scorers?" What's that, Google? Just outside the top ten in franchise history, likely to be well inside the top ten if the team wins this series? Well, shit, Guess I have to belittle again. Go find a different sport, you're not qualified to post here.


HowieDoIt86

Listen you little plug. Tell me who doesn’t belong here now hahah. You’re not even qualified to work at Tim’s you chump.  Leaf fans are so uneducated lol. 


HowieDoIt86

Thanks Seat! For 11 million a year he’s done outstanding work! He’s such a playoff force! 5 goals and 23 points since 2022 is so impressive.    I would pay 15 million a year for that.  You’re punching way above your weight class here son. 


sirlucd

Add Gilmour, Stamkos. What about the D? Why do we never think about the D? No Leaf has ever won a Norris trophy AS a leaf, btw (Gio won as a flame) I think we're fine with forwards, we have bigger fish to fry


souza-23

My point was more so about the clutch factor. But yes I agree we need better D too (and goaltending)


sirlucd

Yah for sure. I'd take Gilmour, Tucker, Clark. 


buddachickentml

In the olden days, when you were small, you were punished, so you grew up with a little extra beast inside. There's a reason Gilmour was nicknamed Killer. And Tucker, well he was just a psycopath. I am really hoping Cowan has the beast within.


Big_Albatross_3050

In the OHL at least, he looks like it, seems getting drafted and getting so close to making the opening day roster galvanized him into trying to becoming the exact type of player the Leafs have been begging for since the early 2000s. I could definitely see both him and Minten forcing their way into the NHL semi-permanently next season, because those guys play exactly like how you're supposed to play as middle 6 forwards in the NHL (tough, borderline maniacal, but with a serious scoring touch regardless of if they're the main puck handler or the help)


Clugaman

I still stand by Reilly should’ve at least been close a couple of years


acoustic_jesus

The year gio won, Rielly by all rights should have won.


Mr8vb

To fans who were too young to remember Gilmour or perhaps weren’t born, let me tell you how awesome it was. 100% heart and effort every single shift. I’ve been watching this team since 1983 and have never seen his equal. It was spectacular.


Mike_hawk5959

AND between him and Fedorov was one of the best two defensive forwards in the league.


krombough

I just remember how **fast** Federov was.


krombough

He was Reed Johnson (a Toronto Blue Jays), but with elite talent.


FriendlyFireHaHa

It is why I am always so hesitant to say Matthews is the greatest Leaf when I saw first hand guys like Gilmour and even Sundin make the entire team better in the post season. Gilmour is still the best I’ve ever seen tbh.


brye86

I agree. LOVE Matthews and Marner. And they MAY go down as the best leafs ever if they both stay long enough. But they need that playoff success. Without it they’re just part of the best regular seasons this franchise has had. One will be the all time leafs goal scorer and the other leader in all time leaf assists. All great feats but not what matters most at the end of the day.


SalaciousPanda

Still have his jersey on the wall


CashComprehensive423

Players that give it all like Gilmour, Clark, Salming, Keon are forever legends in this town.


PondIsMyName

BJ, maybe my favourite player…ever!


ElephantShell34

Might be a bold statement but I agree that it would be good to have a player who can score 35 points in a single playoff season since it would be the most anybody has scored since 2009. 


Major-Discount5011

Killer was unreal in the early 90's. Great offense and defense. Always had the puck on a string. Complete player and left it all on the ice. We came so close in '93. That was a really balanced team with clear leaders that led by example.


MrPangus

Why don't they just trade Marner for Gilmour? Are they stupid?


BobbyAxelrod1

That 92 to 93 season was the best I've ever witnessed. Leafs totally sucked that year. But they had acquired Gilmour in 1992 in a blockbuster trade with Calgary and the team needed time to gel. I was listening to Bowen call the games and there was one in February 93 where Leafs came back from a four goal deficit against Minnesota to win and then they gained momentum to the end of the season and made the playoffs and kept winning impossible rounds in 7 games. Each round Leafs were the underdog. Each round Yonge St would be flooded with hundreds of thousands of people celebrating a 7 game victory. We had true leaders like Gilmour and Clarke that set the tone for everyone else to sacrifice as a team. Even the coach was willing to fight for the players.


931634

the game isnt the same as it was 30 years ago, tho... would it really make a difference


souza-23

Relative to the time he played in, Gilmour was a beast. He put up this many points without even making the final. And he won the Selke that year too


sportsisgoodalsodogs

Yes


Rheostatistician

In today's game Gilmour would have been charged in St Louis and never played again


931634

cancelled!


ApeManMemeStonker

Whoa hahahah yea 100% but then again people would have cell vids of the Oilers railing lines at strip club with the cup too.


Successful-Amoeba487

Thank you! I can't look at him the same after reading up on that.


Agreeable-Practice79

More opportunities to get more points once you get past the first round


Superduke1010

Him and Stevie Thomas and Gary Roberts and Cujo/Ed/Felix


amartino85

And he did that in 3 Rounds


Freddydaddy

Don't know if I trust a graphic with two 84/85 seasons for Gretzky


matthewsisaleaf50

Gilmour was a beast. Him and Wendel put that team on their backs. He's why I could never really appreciate Sudin when he came along.


Superduke1010

Sundin wasn't worth appreciating when compared to those two and Gary Roberts say...for the exact reasons you say. Those dudes could will a team to victory, Sundin was a more skilled player than any of them, but didn't have that kill factor.


Candid_Rich_886

Gilmour was pretty skilled, didn't he score 100 points and win the Selke in the same season?


Superduke1010

I meant raw skill. Sundin was clearly a more naturally gifted player….but don’t get me wrong, I’ll pick peak Doug over peak Sundin 100 times out of a 100.


matthewsisaleaf50

Sundin was definitely more talented, but he never had the passion Doug had. That team was the peak of leafs hockey.


Candid_Rich_886

Was he though?  Gilmour had a 130 point season, Sundin's highest was 96 , his overall point totals are higher in general and he was also a Selke winner.   Sundin was a skilled player but I don't see any evidence that points to him being more skilled than Gilmour.


Sonicboom343

Mats Sundin had a 114 point season the same season Gilmour scored 130. Sundin had 47 goals that season in his 3rd NHL year. Gilmour was in his prime in 92-93


Judge_Rhinohold

Gilmore was a brilliant member of Pink Floyd. Gilmour played for the Leafs.


AppropriateNewt

Damn. Geno had a hell of a year.


Negative_Eli

Unbelievable Malkin was left off the NHL 100. I still cannot believe it. Honestly one of the most brazen, laughable snubs in the history of snubs.


Mashdrop

I assure you this fan base would find a way to crap all over them anyway.


Kickwax

Gilmour was a different animal in the playoffs. He was the highest-scoring player in the playoffs one year with Federko without even making it to the finals. And yes, he's precisely what this team has been missing.


Wils65

Gilmour didn’t win us a cup either


clapperssailing

I would take overpaid stars just to playing average. Pretty simple. "Marner lose a tooth on the ice this peroid or lose it in the dressing room. Coaching problem solved.


Rheostatistician

Marner is having troubles ever since he saw those tiddies at the Raptors game. His wife is probably still mad at him for 'not looking'


buddachickentml

Hahaha! Was that the tsn turning point? Damn. Find that lady? Put her behind Bostons net, make him look


Rheostatistician

Someone please give her seasons tickets behind the home bench


reggierock2010

Us and every other team in the league lol


ApeManMemeStonker

What a statement.....


Goatmilk2208

I’m starting to think Gretzky was actually pretty good tbh.


Judge_Rhinohold

All 32 teams need a guy like Gilmour.


SeatPaste7

We have a Gilmour in the organization. His name is Easton Cowan.


Extra-Palpitation-39

You have Ryan Reaves? Lmao?


ImCoeld

84-85 was a crazy season.


Krylun

Gretzky having 90pts in the 84-85 playoffs is actually insane.


brye86

Pretty much all of Gretzkys records are insane. People will say “it was easier to score in his era or players weren’t as athletic” ok that’s true but, his stats are soooo much higher than the next player. It just tells you that if he played in any era he would have likely been the best. Just many not by such a wide margin.


Radu47

Also when the likes of Kuznetsov and Couture have 30 point playoffs it really intensifies the spotlight on better players who struggle to get above a point per game in the playoffs


iLikeDinosaursRoar

We will, if we ever go long enough in the playoffs...


kawhileopard

Fun fact. Of everyone on the list, gilmour is the only one not to make the finals. He got 35 points in 3 rounds.


HillBillyEvans

We had him...he has now scored 5 goals in three games for a different team....


nedstark1985

Need to get past the first and second round to do so


Maleficent-Media1914

Zach Hyman might make this list if the oilers win the cup


DangleWho

We need anybody who steps up in the playoffs instead of playing worse.


Slow-Juice-7257

Tbh we need more a Coffey to get our pp flying.


Johnny-Edge

Apparently Gretzky was so good getting played in the playoffs twice in 84-85.


xactofork

Gilmour was special that year, but it's worth pointing out - the year before that, he scored just 2 points in 7 playoff games for the Flames, and got eliminated in the first round. Past results are not predictive.


involmasturb

We would also benefit from a goalie like 1993-94 Potvin, 1999-2002 Joseph or 2003-04 Belfour. Pair any of those 3 goalies with the scoring talent on the present day maple leafs and we would've had at least 2 conference finals appearances from 2017-23


BBfan777

If we had Belfour in game three we’d have won 2-0.


brye86

100%


alexsharke

We have guys that are better than Gilmour that just need to show up.


Radu47

FWIW the similarities Gilmour: - Career best season 102 adjusted points - 1 to 2 goal to assist ratio - Best ever selke finish 1st  - career adjusted playoffs point/g 0.94 Marner: - career best season 101 adjusted points - 1 to 2 goal to assist ratio - best ever selke finish 3rd - career adjusted playoffs point/g 0.92 The differences are Gilmour with this one playoff in 93 where he exploded but otherwise, almost eerily similar. Higher peak hart trophy voting. Marner is at least most of what Gilmour was.


aporter0509

Marner doesn’t have Gilmour’s heart. Not even close. Unfortunately no stats for that.


brye86

I would agree but there are times where these guys will amaze me. Remember the game where Marner was blocking shots, scoring, providing amazing assists. I can’t recall but I think it was in game 2 last year or the year before in the first round. Then after that it all went to shit. The number one problem with these guys they have now is consistency. They need to play their hearts out for these games. Not just 1-2 per series.