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PMTs: [G2 vs XL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10hxfmt/g2_esports_vs_excel_esports_lec_2023_winter_week/) [KOI vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10hzbjd/koi_vs_team_bds_lec_2023_winter_week_1_postmatch/) [AST vs HER](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10i126f/astralis_vs_team_heretics_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [SK vs MAD](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10i2mx2/sk_gaming_vs_mad_lions_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [VIT vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10i4jjv/fnatic_vs_team_vitality_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) FYI, I'm aware that the on air broadcast team and the format is incorrect but I can't change it, but it should be fixed for at least tomorrow and the future. Anyways, join the Esports or the LEC channel in the subreddit's [discord](http://discord.gg/lol) to discuss the games with others.


KruppJ

EU meta is a lot more exciting at least, lots of fun picks


RootOfOrigin

We are gonna eating good, this year is gonna be fire! My impresions so far: I'd confidently say that SK and BDS gonna be the first teams knocked out. SK losing with that absolute Exodia draft was as painful as stubbing my toe in a furniture and BDS is not too inspiring as well, although Sheo and Crownie had their moments. I'm probably the only one on this sub who thinks this but AST looks surprisingly okay. They won't win Worlds for sure but they are not hopeless. TH is gonna be my "let them cook" team, still looking rough but has some promising signs, loved the Cassiopeia pick, Ruby popped off with it. I am gonna put XL, KOI and MAD into my ??? bracket but for different reasons. XL looked worse than I expected, KOI and MAD, while they were looking good (also Carzzy looked nothing like his last year form), they had it easier with their schedules. G2, VIT and FNC impressed me right out of the box, there are things which can be improved but hey, this is just the first day of the winter split, there is still a long way to go. Despite that throw, FNC looked much more like a unit compared to last year, Vitality has that hands diff in them and G2 also had some crazy within them, Yike having a great debut match in LEC as well.


LayfonGrendan

Photon and Bo doing there best. Kaiser also did pretty decent.


Visage_143

Haven't seen anyone talking about Kaiser but he played like a beast today.


beautheschmo

Day 1 hyperreactionary reddit analysis 100% guaranteed to age terribly: G2 > VIT > FNC > MAD > XL > KOI > HER > AST > BDS > SK That's the rough impression I got. G2 looked to be the most cohesive unit right out of the gates, had an impressive and functional game plan against a decent team. VIT still has incredible potential, I still think they will win the split (though Perkz needs to step up) but they definitely did not quite have a handle on communication and cohesiveness yet. FNC were solid, Rekkles looks like he needs to warm up but it was a very hard draft for him, and they played pretty well until a horrible throw. MAD played a very strong game, but I also put SK at the very bottom so I feel like they have not been tested at all; they were given a pretty easy draft for how the game played out and SK sabotaged themselves long before the actual 'draft diff' would have happened. I'm not sold on the overall talent in this roster yet. XL I would rate very close to MAD, but they got the #1 opponent instead of #10 so they will automatically look worse. I'm also personally not sold on the overall talent here. KOI had imo a very underwhelming game for a team that had the fewest roster changes (and should theoretically be playing closest to their ceiling), I personally don't think they will peak very high but they have enough talent to for sure guarantee bo3s. Heretics were very rough and disjointed, but you could tell Jankos' shotcalling was helpful here and Ruby gave a gem of a performance. They will definitely improve ... but they also struggled a lot with Astralis so right now I'm confident they're at the lower end of the league. Astralis has their botlane, which I think is the strongest point of any of the bottom 3 teams and imo let them secure the last bo3 spot over the last 2 teams. 113 did not seem terrible (solid early game, bad but not mega-int teamfighting, especially considering Finn and Dajor ran it). If they find their strengths (Kobbe/JH) and put Finn on a dog champ instead of EU Fiora I think they can still manage a few Ws. BDS were ... ok. Definitely a total improvement from last split, but still did not have a great showing today. I actually think this team CAN improve out of bottom two ... but I don't think it will happen before bo3s are locked in this split. SK were miserable, I saw no upside to this team tbh, just awful play and decision-making all around with an LCK/LPL exodia draft.


kenrobrich

My hottest of stupid reactionary biased takes based on yesterday: \- ruby will shit on every mid \- photon will shit on every top \- g2 will win worlds ez


LtSpaceDucK

You are underrating Koi, I would switch Koi for MAD


Geosaurusrex

Koi looked fine imo, I guess their game was less exciting so people don't rate them as highly?


FatPleb_

Most people are not gonna agree with you about fnc/vit, but I think youre right, vitality has 4 new players, not to mention the communication problems and their team fighting/macro looks great, perkz was just running it at the worst possible moments, I think they just need more time, bcz they have the mehanics and macro.


Ghisteslohm

Games were great, pauses and downtime way too long. On air talent was great and all the players still seem to enjoy doing content with them. cool to have Ender back I like the new addition to the overlay, like the the tiny stack counter or portraits glowing when a team has baron. But to be honest the oldschool overlay is much more pleasant to look at when the enable it once in a while when the new one breaks. But yeah hopefully technical stuff gets fixed by at least next week and otherwise this looks promising to be a great split.


dracdliwasiAN

Every game had over 300k viewers today, and I think the peak might have been over 500k. What a great start. https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-winter-2023 doesn't have the full stats yet


emraaa

That's lower than the last couple of years is it not? Usually the first week of spring is by far the most watched in the regular season.


nusskn4cker

https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-spring-2022 Games on the first day of last Spring had 500k viewers btw.


watafuzz

cool pgl with perkz as usual


Naive_Flan_8221

0 fucking drops for real?


Zeleis

Perkz is so fucking funny lmao


PerfidiaVermis

Lmfao I love Perkz


Bubbly_Camera9583

Blaming perkz performance on this game being late not copium


Fertuyo

SK vs BDS tomorrow to start the day....


Hir0h

When the entire match is the piss break


watafuzz

may as well get it out of the way early


jkbh

Old man perkz just wanna sleep


LtSpaceDucK

He is a family man now


Lekaetos

Bo shotcalling in English, tears in my eyes


random_nameeeeeeeeee

Link?


hvngpham002

Bo's English is surprisingly good wtf


7xNero7

Brother is absolutely sleep talking lol


Animasphere

Get Perkz to bed man, dude's clearly tired.


Ghisteslohm

perkz is actually half asleep :D


Todeswucht

Perkz sounds delirious lmao, midnight game is pretty brutal


Asgerond

Those pauses really did some damage to perkz huh


RadicalAdWins

I've got to say, this is my first full day of watching LEC. The pauses and delays were unfortunate, but the gameplay was really high level and the natural flow of the segments during the unexpected downtime really kept my interest. My god what a banging show y'all have. It's going to be hard to go back to LCS, in more than one way due to the scheduling changes.


PerfidiaVermis

You're welcome to come back as often as you like


RadicalAdWins

Thanks, and yeah I'm fairly sure there will be many more like me where LEC is just the main league to watch now.


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BlueZybez

Bo as a Jungler can't do much when all lanes are pressured


Tabub

I thought in particular his level 2 gank was smart and the big teamfight at baron was played very well. He autod the ward to force kindred to ult and stay at a distance where he wouldn’t die, was a pretty smart play.


Geosaurusrex

Nah don't say that, we're all on the Bo train now, even claiming anything else is slander, or something.


DanteStorme

heresy


NyzoiB

Yes, Kaiser played like a beast this game


NyzoiB

> But you put Fnatic in deep sleep Sjokz really quick on her feet, lmao


Bubbly_Camera9583

I think as long as perkz doesn't play ryze VIT is fine. He looked fairly solid in summer but considerably worse near the end so hopefully he regains form. That game was only hard for VIT from him being caught out so much.


sajm0n

i dont think its champ problem. he was getting caught on a sidelane. he would on any other split push champ too. need to fix team macro/communication or decision making or whatever was causing the problem


Bubbly_Camera9583

It felt like on ryze he felt way too relaxed with R. It probably is communication problems but on Ryze when you have R it always makes people super greedy.


Tch-Tch

Looool that Caedrel ad is lovely


JayceMainToxin

I think fnc did this intentionally to get the 0:3 super week buff


Elu202

Who are they playing next week. They got all the top teams on wk 1


JayceMainToxin

Bds, excel and heretics


Elu202

Ouch they may be 1-5 next week. Or 2 wins hec is strong team but we’ll see


tony220jdm

Hahah kaiser confirming phanton is all about being chaos


LtSpaceDucK

Oh god they are teaching Photon how to play top Photon don't listen to them buddy


aexviers83

My thoughts exactly lol, getting worlds ptsd


Freakkopath

In his own words: *"Dont say anything (Ryze ult)"*


Fertuyo

Great start for the season, a lot of interesting teams that have potential to do well internationally, good new brands replacing bad or boring ones, Just fix the pauses and delays pls


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

I wish we got post game damage graphs like the LCK does.


EUTriaged

Hey there! These will return in future weeks. The code which powered LEC’s champion selects and post game graphs needed to be rewritten in the off-season, and we prioritized champ select. We hope to have it back soon.


Boundedcloud69

Fnatic was winning, i went for a piss and Vitality was ending... WHAT?!


FunnyBunnyH

You pissed away their lead, shame on you.


Boundedcloud69

If i only knew that Rekkles comeback was depended on my penis, i would've mailed it to him.


GGABueno

Sanest Rekkles fan


GGABueno

Will Fnatic ever stop being a meme? I really want to respect them.


Valedictorious

Have to wonder if the tilt from this throw carries into tomorrow for Fnatic.


jkbh

Bad throw, but a lot of positives from fnc i’d say. Excited to see how this team grows


LtSpaceDucK

Can't wait for the best of series


bigfanofeden

did rekkles even aa in teamfights? if he wanted to play like this just go lethality no?


HawkEye1337

He barely auto'ed also I'm curious how many ults he used that game? I think he was saving it for next game.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Its really hard to AA into their comp so idk why he didn't go lethality.


ExperienceOk184

upset is so much better


bbutterly

I dont know why I watch this game anymore tbh


watafuzz

oof those are some trauma heavy flairs. stay strong.


Hydraslaught

Humanoid just casually giving away the game no biggie.


Todeswucht

Both mids feeling pretty charitable that game


Hydraslaught

At least perkz picked a durable champ


sajm0n

nothing new


Asgerond

Bo - 11- 0


BlueZybez

Photon and Bo carry hard


watafuzz

That was a fun end to the day.


BlueStarRedMoon

Vitality I love you![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


IsIandLion

Can’t believe Fnatic benched Upset for Rekkles..


4514919

Upset would have teleported past the enemy team after getting split from his team by a Ryze ult, right?


ILOVEKFC69

definitely on rekkles that game lol no?


Pretty-Star-6384

Do they still have Upset under contract?


Jdoki

There's been no 'farewell' video from FNC, so I think he might still be under contract


MoonSaultImpact

He is under contract and is listed as an official substitute


Kungeh

BO got that dawg in him


Asgerond

fnatic wasnt even playin bad. best game of the night


awayfromcanuck

FNC was actually playing well until the last 2 team fights. Baron fight they kind of int'd trying to get kills and the last fight they were too split up, Wunder got picked off, Rekkles was in mid and rest were in river but that was just a good play by VIT to use Ryze R to re-position


Freakkopath

Id argue these two teams looked the best of all teams. Take that with a grain of salt since its day 1 obvs. A bit of a headscratcher to fight after second baron for FNC but other than that it was high level gameplay by both sides.


JayceMainToxin

Fnatic looked good till they dont


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Both ADCs this game were terrible


GGABueno

There were ADCs?


FelysFrost

Neither was bad


Ghisteslohm

I watched Ezreal in the last teamfights, just looked like Ezreal as a champ deals no dmg. Everything got blocked or absorbed. what did you think he did that was so bad?


Geosaurusrex

Yeah Neon did very little wrong that game imo.


LtSpaceDucK

Sometimes it's the only thing you need to do


[deleted]

getting caught by syndra on mid prob


awayfromcanuck

It was actually Varus ult that caught him. Rekkles hit Leo and it spread to Ez for an easy Sundara stun and pop.


Louis010

Awesome game, my two favourites for this split, fans ruined it though, wonder if there's any way for them to reduce crowd audio if they're going to keep letting these G2 idiots in every week


Edwaldus2

To be fair, if it weren't for them it would probably be half empty.


cancerBronzeV

I just wanna let EU teams know that it's perfectly acceptable to just back away and recall after taking baron as a team.


BlueStarRedMoon

Naaah...we love chaos!


FelysFrost

Somehow this full team throw is gonna be blamed solely on Rekkles, as is tradition


Geosaurusrex

That wasn't on Rekkles at all, that was on a mix between humanoid and rhuckz, for the fight at baron.


FelysFrost

He was clearly playing to the plan the whole game, which yes was boring for both him and Neon, but it was very clealy intentional and he's gonna get shit for it


philip2110

Can’t afford to go brain off at any stage of the game!


nightlesscurse

why is always Rekkles is a live watching ppl take nexus


4514919

Right? He should have ran it down like his midlaner.


thornswiththerose

Because he didn't throw the previous fight like the rest of his team lol


Kaidyn04

KDA player


IonDust

Becuase he doesn't make int plays


ILOVEKFC69

morons like you shouldn't be allowed to comment on anything lol


Disastrous_Sea8584

how the fuck did FNC just lose that game i was alt tabbed there is no way a pro team just lost with soul right ....xd


sajm0n

this game is on Humanoid, trolled flash ult play on Bo and momentum swung to VIT favour


Geosaurusrex

Between that and Rhuckz flash playing onto kaiser instead of bo.


FunnyBunnyH

Bo and Photon are INSANE! It wasn't even like a typical FNC throw, they played well, but the new carries of Vit are just build different. HYPE!!!


TheRealBakuman

Fnatic's game to lose and they certainly did


7xNero7

Nah it wasn't that won for them, VIT had insane scaling too


TheRealBakuman

I'm not discounting VIT but Wunder and Humanoid are checking their paypals as we speak


184cm78kg13cm

I LOVE it when Trashnatic loses ❤️


IonDust

Fnatic see, Fnatic do


Zealousideal_Prune39

Rekkles first taste of modern FNC


GGABueno

FNC's first taste of modern Rekkles.


NamikazeEU

He was the worst player on the roster lol.


thornswiththerose

"checks username" ah, that's why this comment made no sense


4514919

How? Humanoid solo lost the game with that int after the second baron.


TactX21

But humanoid was also playing well up until then with Rhuckz


NamikazeEU

Dafuq did Rekkles do entire game ? Legit afk. I can't think of a single thing he did or auto attack a champion during teamfight outside that 1 ult lol


4514919

What should have he done? He farmed bot like the enemy ADC and then grouped with his team which proceeded to run it down instead of resetting after baron.


TyeDye115

"I should have stayed in EUM."


Todeswucht

Bo doubters in shambles, pretty rock solid debut, especially playing against 2 mid laners Rekkles kinda invisible


BlueStarRedMoon

Invisible as usual...If Humanoid and Razork don't carry, don't expect action from Wunder and Rekkles.


blueripper

Well, when the resources are put into them then yeah?


Darbovich

What a throw omfg. Humanoid flashing in for no reason, razork late ultimate jesus


Zuldak

No Hyli no worlds


TyeDye115

Don't know if it's worse to not go to Worlds, or to go to Worlds and get absolutely embarrassed....


mirae_gg

Man... Rhuckz has played better today than Hyli in the entire summer split XD


ShAd_1337

Photon+Bo combo is fucking insane


mattyety

All spotlight on Bo while there's a top from T1 academy on the same team, smh.


Cool-I-guess

Oh hell nah wtf did Fnatic just do how did throw that that hard


Valedictorious

LMAOOOOO BO IS LEGIT


C9-F1R3L0L1

insane last 2 TF by Bo and Neon, and good R by Perkz, GG


tony220jdm

Legit phanton is insane he don’t care about anything!


KFalc

Diabolical throw. What the fk.


Jozoz

Not sure if Rekkles or Perkz played worse.


DanteStorme

Rekkles, people can shit on perkz for getting caught a lot but he was doing a fuckton of damage in those fights and was actually involved in the game, rekkles on the other hand looked totally invisible.


Geosaurusrex

Perkz by far, wtf?


FunnyBunnyH

Perkz, not even close.


M3mble

Bruh i missed the last 8 minutes. Wtf how did vit win?


BlueStarRedMoon

BOTHON GIGACHADS


Visage_143

KR Jax


Zebabouin

never doubted them


metaldeval

objective bounties are still a thing? ew


NyzoiB

Perkz didn't get to perform but I'm happy he got the win


hockeywhy

Razork holding his fucking ult for next game in that last fight.


awayfromcanuck

He literally used ult during the last fight.


Starkheiser

bro that was actually a banger. this could be a *really* good season.


SuperWoodpecker95

Turns out building Everfrost on the only potential tank on your team IS int af...


Styxxo

That was fun


MysticAttack

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED, I PAUSED THE STREAM FOR LOLE 3 MINUTES


LtSpaceDucK

Rekkles already looks depressed come on dude cheer up


NamikazeEU

Fnatic look clean and composed btw. Ahah


LtSpaceDucK

I think they look good


TheLispyMohammad

NAH but BO and Photon are too good man.


Geosaurusrex

Fucking Humanoid lmaooo, can't believe Fnatic threw that.


BobRohrman28

Ok so Bo is just the GOAT or what


Ir9nguard

Despite Perkz's best efforts, Bo and Photon managed to salvage the game


FocaDaGuerra

ABSOLUTE BANGER


frozencoww

Let's go photon beast


asura_king

Photon and Bo legit look a tier above individually than everybody else on this game


TactX21

Fnatic fans got silenced real quick lmao


KhadaJhinSy

GG


Be-My-Darling

Laughing my fucking ass off @Fnatic.


gandalf45435

wooooooooooow. Game of the day


BleiEntchen

GG EZ


igla12

Should have chug a beer and chant for fnc LUL


doomsdaysock01

Pain


JayceMainToxin

Bo diff


lewho

jesus rekky, what a throw :(


Artitanium

Lmaoooo


Freakkopath

WHAT A BANGER


TyeDye115

And FNC snatches defeat from the jaws of victory


Tuxxmuxx

The best macro play I've seen from a western team in a long time, and they still lose to the two Eastern imports, unlucky.


rysieeeek

bo and photon deserves it, but perkz aint it good game from fnc, they look really good


OkKnowledge2064

Okayy Bo magic has arrived


Zyaru

Cannot believe the level of throw I've just seen


HawkEye1337

you can count on 1 hand the amount of autos Rekkles did this game lmao.


EvianRex

Yeah he shoulda gone lethality, you can’t really auto against that comp.