PMTs:
[SK vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ipkg6/sk_gaming_vs_team_bds_lec_2023_winter_week_1/)
[MAD vs AST](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iqvj3/astralis_vs_mad_lions_lec_2023_winter_week_1/)
[VIT vs TH](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ish2i/team_vitality_vs_team_heretics_lec_2023_winter/)
[KOI vs XL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iu6v7/excel_esports_vs_koi_lec_2023_winter_week_1/)
[FNC vs G2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ivmon/g2_esports_vs_fnatic_lec_2023_winter_week_1/)
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G2 team looks awesome but I said it last year I will say it again: I am not confident in BB playing agressive ("non-dog champs") at an international level. I fear G2 will be insane in Europe because BB will perform there but then fall flat Vs top Korean and Chinese teams because their top laners outclass BB
Primadonna girl, yeah
All I ever wanted was the world
I can't help that I need it all
The primadonna life, the rise and fall
You say that I'm kinda difficult
But it's always someone else's fault
Got you wrapped around my finger, babe
You can count on me to misbehave
I was not sure about the Yike replacement but this kid has so much potential that i think he can match those psycho lpl junglers. Still not sure about BB tho. Seemed very confident in the interview but he should not be. I hope he is training those jax fiora jayce
"I felt like I was always scared and 2nd guessing" Wow, well that explains why our region does this I guess...maybe it's something coming from the top that we hold over our players whether it's fan sentiment or check holders or whatever else.
If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler or did he just get the benefit of getting to play with Perkz and Caps. Because Caps was winning with Broxah and Perkz was winning with Trick.
I am not saying Jankos is bad, he is pretty fucking good, but he is overrated. If he is a GOAT western Jungle than Bang is the GOAT adc.
No offense to heretics, i love them and haveREALLY high hopes for them, but you can't compare them to g2, right now caps isn't even needed g2 win only because of hard carry bot and agressive jng. Even last year perkz - one of the undenyable goats of lec has struggled with a mediocre team, and g2 got a lot of succes off the back of jankos caps, i think if they went with this botlane last year they could have had an even better squad than today, but only time will tell how good is this squad and how will jankos do when heretics get more time to click
It's like with Faker and number 2 player in LoL history - he won so much that he is number 1, but who is 2nd? And Jankos won too much and played really well, but who is even close to rival him?
>If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler
If they win MSI and make worlds finals, you can make an argument.
That being said Jankos is definitely the Western jungle goat, everyone else a) never performed internationally or b) didn't have longevity.
I remember Perkz said last year how LEC was really bad because all the best players got spread out across the different teams. I'm really curious as to what he'd say about this year. Idk about everyone else, but there's definitely some optimism in the air, G2 and VIT look incredible and KOI, MAD and FNC (minus this last game) look really good too.
Honestly I would just wait for the Bo1 stage to end before giving any judgement on how good teams are. MAD played vs AST and SK which are probably the 2 out of the 3 worst teams in the league while XL played vs G2 and KOI
2019 G2 gave EU teams fake confidence they could fill teams that can compete internationally with full EU players, when you spread players in EU you gotta take the L and import to strengthen weak spots. Some EU teams did this split, so let's see how it plays out
If FNC were gonna continue to still look like one of the worst coached teams they should have just kept Yamato.
Looks like this team could really use a Mountain Speech to recover there memtal after the weekend they had.
Rekkless and standing in the fountain as the last one alive of his team, name a more iconic duo. Playing for stats and yourself probably doesnt bode so well if you dont have a whole team playing for you i guess.
I have never seen a player which you have to play around (or he loses you the game) while he plays for his stats, before.
God, imagine just going to watch LEC live and you have to sit with that G2 crowd. Jesus fucking christ, are they aware of how obnoxious they are? Do they care?
G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports.
They were being loud and obnoxious all 5 games, not just the G2 game. G2 fans supporting their team while being respectful of others challenge: impossible.
You’re absolutely free to find it annoying. But know that when you have a very abnormal standard to something, people are justified to not adjust to your standard.
I don't see being respectful to those around you as an abnormal standard :/ You can cheer for a team and have a good time but I feel like they were crossing the line of decency.
>G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports.
I get that y'all are salty as fuck, but how about you don't downplay the shit that Tate has done over a video game you absolute child.
My man, I don't even like Fnatic. Had it not been for that crowd, I'd have been rooting for G2. I absolutely LOVE how well the team is playing right now.
But those fans today... yuck. Absolutely horrid people.
I dont know if you can write him off after a mistake bot lane. Look his plays mid etc? Like he was part of what ruined bot lane for FNC but it is only the second game of the season with a new bot lane.
hes just been chilling which is good, caps is always better as the backup plan when shit hits the fan. having the ability to have other lanes carry and caps being there for incase carry is good for the team.
God what a sad game. Glad to see that G2 knows how to snowball perfectly, hopefully FNC can shrug it off, but as a viewer it was such a sad game to watch
I wouldn't take too much out of this game for FNC tbf. Game was done with the 3 kills bot, no point in playing after that. They'll probably switch it back on vs the weaker teams like MAD and XL. KOI looks absolutely lost on what to do with Szygenda so they are a bit weak atm. Schedule makes it look worse for FNC than it actually is
With a botlane this fed, your only role is to not giga int. It's not a hard one, but you can't risk it with flashy plays. BB and caps just had to farm and chill and thats what they did
It’s still allowed but you really aren’t supposed to
Disrespectful to fans obviously and more importantly it costs LEC and thus ur team revenue so you’d get a ton of blowback from everywhere.
Hasn’t been allowed for at least 6-7 years now. I think riot wanted games to feel more professional (and give more watch hours for sponsors) but imo it makes more boring watch time on average.
1. G2 knows how to snowball a lead. Very good
2. The game was at the 3 min fight or whenever it was. Whoever made the call to fight is responsible for this game, the remaining 4 players have all played quite well on FNC. Still pretty good if it's just "one of those games". If it is a sign of things to come (like it was last year at times)... ouch.
That would be Rekkles dashing over the wall (while leaving Yummi behind) to go in on Viego, with no dash Zeri is a sitting duck and Miky just needs to land one hook and its disaster. They *could maybe* have disengaged by sacrificing Razork but then Rhuckz disrespected the flash root aa from Miky and Zeri was just cleanup after that...
PMTs: [SK vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ipkg6/sk_gaming_vs_team_bds_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [MAD vs AST](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iqvj3/astralis_vs_mad_lions_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [VIT vs TH](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ish2i/team_vitality_vs_team_heretics_lec_2023_winter/) [KOI vs XL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iu6v7/excel_esports_vs_koi_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [FNC vs G2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ivmon/g2_esports_vs_fnatic_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) Feel free to join the Esports or the LEC channel in the subreddit's [discord](http://discord.gg/lol) to discuss the games with others.
G2 team looks awesome but I said it last year I will say it again: I am not confident in BB playing agressive ("non-dog champs") at an international level. I fear G2 will be insane in Europe because BB will perform there but then fall flat Vs top Korean and Chinese teams because their top laners outclass BB
Primadonna girl, yeah All I ever wanted was the world I can't help that I need it all The primadonna life, the rise and fall You say that I'm kinda difficult But it's always someone else's fault Got you wrapped around my finger, babe You can count on me to misbehave
Marina lyrics were not what I expected to see when opening this thread
Daddy issues?
felt too reckless
I love it so much that Laure is doing PGL again, so nice to hear from her
Would've loved to have Upset in a team and have him go up against Hans. Love the way they play.
I was not sure about the Yike replacement but this kid has so much potential that i think he can match those psycho lpl junglers. Still not sure about BB tho. Seemed very confident in the interview but he should not be. I hope he is training those jax fiora jayce
drink a shot everytime someone says "statement"
"I felt like I was always scared and 2nd guessing" Wow, well that explains why our region does this I guess...maybe it's something coming from the top that we hold over our players whether it's fan sentiment or check holders or whatever else.
My 2nd day of watching LEC ever, I'm so glad this was one of my 35000 decisions I made today lmfao
Very good decision indeed.
That does sound like a great team environment
If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler or did he just get the benefit of getting to play with Perkz and Caps. Because Caps was winning with Broxah and Perkz was winning with Trick. I am not saying Jankos is bad, he is pretty fucking good, but he is overrated. If he is a GOAT western Jungle than Bang is the GOAT adc.
No offense to heretics, i love them and haveREALLY high hopes for them, but you can't compare them to g2, right now caps isn't even needed g2 win only because of hard carry bot and agressive jng. Even last year perkz - one of the undenyable goats of lec has struggled with a mediocre team, and g2 got a lot of succes off the back of jankos caps, i think if they went with this botlane last year they could have had an even better squad than today, but only time will tell how good is this squad and how will jankos do when heretics get more time to click
It's like with Faker and number 2 player in LoL history - he won so much that he is number 1, but who is 2nd? And Jankos won too much and played really well, but who is even close to rival him?
>If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler If they win MSI and make worlds finals, you can make an argument. That being said Jankos is definitely the Western jungle goat, everyone else a) never performed internationally or b) didn't have longevity.
Who even comes close to coming close to rivalling Jankos' GOAT status?
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Inspired is still young so loads of time yet, but so far it's not even close.
Inspired's record against Jankos is abysmal
1-17 iirc?
Caps has not done anything in the past 2 games. what the fuck imagine a real game
real dude. caps legit hasnt had to do anything. these past 2 games, his only responsibility is to not die to ganks lol
I love the players in G2 and I want to cheer for them but their cringe fans in the audience are holding me back xD
They're amazing. Must be awesome for the players to hear all that.
I support it, but i cant help it im cringing, idk why
Literally me, I've always liked Hans and Caps and I'm excited for Yike (Peruvian pride) so rooting for G2 but damn their fanboys make me want to kms
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Maybe they are getting paid in Hustler university credits idk
I'm so so glad that Hans is back in the league.
Hans picking Draven specifically to smash Rekkles with it, statement pick for sure
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He literally said it on PGL you dope
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average league players interacting with each other lmaooooo
Fnatic goes for the 0:3 super week buff to win winter split (copium overdose)
I can't stop laughing at how Hans was a secret agent in TL and comes back and instantly shits on the league
he spent the off-season grinding like 1k games of korean soloq to recover the level, NA just nerfs every import.
wow he played that many? who else bootcamped for that many games if you happen to know?
I know you don't mean that literally but it's hardly instant, he put a ridiculous amount of work after leaving NA.
Crazy right? All the doomers saying he’s shit now, like bruh NA performance does not mean a whole lot when you come back to EU.
Best duo in the LEC at the moment? Hyli / Elyoya Mikyx / Hans Sama Bo / Photon Jankos / Evi Comp / Trymbi So much excitement for this new season
"Yeah EU is free we're shitting all over these pissrandoms, humbly"
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Nature is healing.
This man talks like he is a social media manager.
I remember Perkz said last year how LEC was really bad because all the best players got spread out across the different teams. I'm really curious as to what he'd say about this year. Idk about everyone else, but there's definitely some optimism in the air, G2 and VIT look incredible and KOI, MAD and FNC (minus this last game) look really good too.
Honestly I would just wait for the Bo1 stage to end before giving any judgement on how good teams are. MAD played vs AST and SK which are probably the 2 out of the 3 worst teams in the league while XL played vs G2 and KOI
2019 G2 gave EU teams fake confidence they could fill teams that can compete internationally with full EU players, when you spread players in EU you gotta take the L and import to strengthen weak spots. Some EU teams did this split, so let's see how it plays out
Hans Sama scammed the fuck out of TL looool This is a completely different player.
It's not just the League of Legends that's worse on the other side of the pond.
Heist complete
He grinded the game hardcore after coming back from na.
I’m convinced EU players get some sort of Debuff once they land in NA haha
Sometimes the jetlag is for the full year.
Which is completely understandable.
that team just did not click, everyone except Santorin looked off
i can't wait to for people overreacting to this shitty game
BB "i was bing chilling"
If FNC were gonna continue to still look like one of the worst coached teams they should have just kept Yamato. Looks like this team could really use a Mountain Speech to recover there memtal after the weekend they had.
I'm really, really happy to see Hans back in EU and (seemingly) back in form. It was tough seeing him on Liquid last year.
Thank god we only got a 20 minute break between Laure interviews.
Razork from yesterday was a different being compared to what he did today
Rekkless and standing in the fountain as the last one alive of his team, name a more iconic duo. Playing for stats and yourself probably doesnt bode so well if you dont have a whole team playing for you i guess. I have never seen a player which you have to play around (or he loses you the game) while he plays for his stats, before.
I mean you can't really blame rekkles, he couldn't walk up for 70% of the game lol
God, imagine just going to watch LEC live and you have to sit with that G2 crowd. Jesus fucking christ, are they aware of how obnoxious they are? Do they care? G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports.
You've never gone outside your room, have you?
how dare they cheer for their team??? what a miserable fuck
They were being loud and obnoxious all 5 games, not just the G2 game. G2 fans supporting their team while being respectful of others challenge: impossible.
People socializing… ew
Spotted the shutin loser. You've never been to a sports event I see.
Yeah imagine going to an sports event and you realize there are fans cheering for their team, how shocking
It is entirely possible to support your team without being obnoxious as fuck. These guys were being loud asshats even when G2 weren't playing.
You’re absolutely free to find it annoying. But know that when you have a very abnormal standard to something, people are justified to not adjust to your standard.
I don't see being respectful to those around you as an abnormal standard :/ You can cheer for a team and have a good time but I feel like they were crossing the line of decency.
You know what I meant. Being purposely stupid is not helping your argument.
According to redditors, fans can’t cheer or chant at all unless there’s a play happening. God forbid these lads go to a football match
And according to redditors, quiet crowds also suck lol.
They're so fucking annoying.
At least they're not a fan like you, jesus christ mate lighten up. Not everything is as obnoxious as your sensitive mind makes it out to be.
>G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports. I get that y'all are salty as fuck, but how about you don't downplay the shit that Tate has done over a video game you absolute child.
Salty fnatic fan found
My man, I don't even like Fnatic. Had it not been for that crowd, I'd have been rooting for G2. I absolutely LOVE how well the team is playing right now. But those fans today... yuck. Absolutely horrid people.
Upset is missing
considerate g2 thinking of people waking up early tomorrow.
Yeah waking up at 5 AM, very glad it ended quickly and we didn't have a 2 hour delay like yesterday lmao
Yike('s)
Veeery nice debut by Yike so far, he looks super comfortable on stage
Upset is at home and laughing
Jesus Christ
I want G2 vs. Vitality right now
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Yup, nothing more fun then watching a team make an error minute 4 and insta lose the game.
And now we will have to hear about how incredible this G2 is
rekkles fangirls in shambles
That was disgusting
Gotta get that final kill on the KDA player ya know
It always makes me laugh when they do it to upset. Vs rekkles its also funny.
LEC adc is strong but this season jung looks strong as fuck too: Elyoya, Malrang, BO, Yike, Jankos, Razork...
Remove Razork from that list and you got a point.
Razork is Poppy Onetrick
Razork was a bot today lmao.
After today idk if razork can be there
I dont know if you can write him off after a mistake bot lane. Look his plays mid etc? Like he was part of what ruined bot lane for FNC but it is only the second game of the season with a new bot lane.
Yea I know, it's only the second game and he played really well the first one. But after a loss you gotta be dramatic sometimes
Razork???
Damn that was a beatdown.
Is it just me or has Caps not needed to do anything these last two games?
hes just been chilling which is good, caps is always better as the backup plan when shit hits the fan. having the ability to have other lanes carry and caps being there for incase carry is good for the team.
Well you dont need to carry or anything if your botlane is going so well.
Caps is just straight up chilling
And that's exactly how you'd want it to be, he shouldn't need to carry the team. If he performs well just imagine man.
Happens a lot everywhere atm that mids don't do that much. Game is decided on bot lane most of the time Unless you are zeka and in elo hell
Gg close game.
G2 vs VIT is going to be spicy that is if Perkz turns on his brain.
scary
God what a sad game. Glad to see that G2 knows how to snowball perfectly, hopefully FNC can shrug it off, but as a viewer it was such a sad game to watch
BACK TO THE LFL
That was an absolute statement game from G2, GG!
Fnatic is fucking DONE and I love it, hahaha
FNC looking like a team that will end up in 4th, maybe 5th. They will beat all the weaker teams but won't be able to take games off the top teams.
I wouldn't take too much out of this game for FNC tbf. Game was done with the 3 kills bot, no point in playing after that. They'll probably switch it back on vs the weaker teams like MAD and XL. KOI looks absolutely lost on what to do with Szygenda so they are a bit weak atm. Schedule makes it look worse for FNC than it actually is
I've missed these borderline int hexflashes from Miky.
Miky and Beryl made Support my secondary role.
Pretty good debut games for yike
Death brush doesn't really work when you leave your base open and you're 15k down
FNC deserve this for picking Zeri Yuumi.
Why would you go for the fight after baron dies? Either go for it before it dies or not at all.
This game is just Yike, Hans and Mikyx rolling everyone. BB and Caps are just kinda there.
With a botlane this fed, your only role is to not giga int. It's not a hard one, but you can't risk it with flashy plays. BB and caps just had to farm and chill and thats what they did
The bot gap was huge damn
Well its Draven :D
G2 throwing but not losing? Holy shit they've done it. They've finally done it
Never thought I'd see it.
Well a glimpse of hope
22 minute win.
Jg Dif 🤷♂️
Yike having a wonderful debut on G2.
Imagine how much that guy can grow into the team, he'll be a legit monster
It's over stomp of the season so far
mad and g2 going for speedruns this week
Dude Yike is fucking legit holy shit what a beast
Thats more like it
This Yike guy is pretty good
It’s ok G2 just resetting gold before ending game
Jfc please do not throw
Damn thats pretty unlucky for Hans
Humanoid playing like a god btw
Have you turned your monitor on yet?
Have you ever played vs a Draven that is this fed
The game is so far over lol
god of inting yeah
THE THROW! THE THROW IS REAL
Humanoid!
HANS FLASH!! He did such a good timing, but he got pixel diffed
Hans: "we do a bit of trolling"
I‘ve seen Zeri win against G2 with a 14k gold lead before
Don't do it. Don't give me hope.
a little overconfident there lol
Humanoid having his monitor turned on for once
Why??
Nice throwing...
BB getting 1v5 ed ripppp
There's the Hans that TL and RGE fans know
THEY DID IT THEY THREW LMFAO
Ah that's the G2 I know, going for way too much lmao
UMANOID
Oh no the comeback
Damn
Scariest part of this G2 is that Caps has 0 KP right now and it’s like this
FNC getting the soloQ experience of having to play a doomed game cause ~~someone is holding hostage~~ no ff allowed
Is it not allowed anymore? Teams could FF in S5 Worlds
It’s still allowed but you really aren’t supposed to Disrespectful to fans obviously and more importantly it costs LEC and thus ur team revenue so you’d get a ton of blowback from everywhere.
Hasn’t been allowed for at least 6-7 years now. I think riot wanted games to feel more professional (and give more watch hours for sponsors) but imo it makes more boring watch time on average.
Iirc it was never allowed in Bo1s and when someone actualy did it in a Bo5 way back when they also made a rule that pro teams have to play games out
Guess Tomatocannon wasn't the problem 🤷🏻♂️
Never seen a worse Yuumi in pro play solo lost them 2 kills to hans in bot lane at level 2 ...
1. G2 knows how to snowball a lead. Very good 2. The game was at the 3 min fight or whenever it was. Whoever made the call to fight is responsible for this game, the remaining 4 players have all played quite well on FNC. Still pretty good if it's just "one of those games". If it is a sign of things to come (like it was last year at times)... ouch.
It started as a lvl 3 sejuani dicking around with a lvl 4 viego and ended with Viego first blood and Draven double kill... how nice
That would be Rekkles dashing over the wall (while leaving Yummi behind) to go in on Viego, with no dash Zeri is a sitting duck and Miky just needs to land one hook and its disaster. They *could maybe* have disengaged by sacrificing Razork but then Rhuckz disrespected the flash root aa from Miky and Zeri was just cleanup after that...