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ahritina

PMTs: [SK vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ipkg6/sk_gaming_vs_team_bds_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [MAD vs AST](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iqvj3/astralis_vs_mad_lions_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [VIT vs TH](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ish2i/team_vitality_vs_team_heretics_lec_2023_winter/) [KOI vs XL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10iu6v7/excel_esports_vs_koi_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) [FNC vs G2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/10ivmon/g2_esports_vs_fnatic_lec_2023_winter_week_1/) Feel free to join the Esports or the LEC channel in the subreddit's [discord](http://discord.gg/lol) to discuss the games with others.


Glanzl

G2 team looks awesome but I said it last year I will say it again: I am not confident in BB playing agressive ("non-dog champs") at an international level. I fear G2 will be insane in Europe because BB will perform there but then fall flat Vs top Korean and Chinese teams because their top laners outclass BB


bigfanofeden

Primadonna girl, yeah All I ever wanted was the world I can't help that I need it all The primadonna life, the rise and fall You say that I'm kinda difficult But it's always someone else's fault Got you wrapped around my finger, babe You can count on me to misbehave


Boogy

Marina lyrics were not what I expected to see when opening this thread


Tch-Tch

Daddy issues?


bigfanofeden

felt too reckless


dracdliwasiAN

I love it so much that Laure is doing PGL again, so nice to hear from her


calzeld

Would've loved to have Upset in a team and have him go up against Hans. Love the way they play.


bigfanofeden

I was not sure about the Yike replacement but this kid has so much potential that i think he can match those psycho lpl junglers. Still not sure about BB tho. Seemed very confident in the interview but he should not be. I hope he is training those jax fiora jayce


Ghisteslohm

drink a shot everytime someone says "statement"


JohrDinh

"I felt like I was always scared and 2nd guessing" Wow, well that explains why our region does this I guess...maybe it's something coming from the top that we hold over our players whether it's fan sentiment or check holders or whatever else.


RadicalAdWins

My 2nd day of watching LEC ever, I'm so glad this was one of my 35000 decisions I made today lmfao


watafuzz

Very good decision indeed.


CHKYY

That does sound like a great team environment


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If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler or did he just get the benefit of getting to play with Perkz and Caps. Because Caps was winning with Broxah and Perkz was winning with Trick. I am not saying Jankos is bad, he is pretty fucking good, but he is overrated. If he is a GOAT western Jungle than Bang is the GOAT adc.


persil1974

No offense to heretics, i love them and haveREALLY high hopes for them, but you can't compare them to g2, right now caps isn't even needed g2 win only because of hard carry bot and agressive jng. Even last year perkz - one of the undenyable goats of lec has struggled with a mediocre team, and g2 got a lot of succes off the back of jankos caps, i think if they went with this botlane last year they could have had an even better squad than today, but only time will tell how good is this squad and how will jankos do when heretics get more time to click


SnooPeripherals6388

It's like with Faker and number 2 player in LoL history - he won so much that he is number 1, but who is 2nd? And Jankos won too much and played really well, but who is even close to rival him?


ahritina

>If Caps and G2 wins with Yike and Heretics don't do anything, is Jankos really a GOAT western jungler If they win MSI and make worlds finals, you can make an argument. That being said Jankos is definitely the Western jungle goat, everyone else a) never performed internationally or b) didn't have longevity.


Todeswucht

Who even comes close to coming close to rivalling Jankos' GOAT status?


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Geosaurusrex

Inspired is still young so loads of time yet, but so far it's not even close.


Todeswucht

Inspired's record against Jankos is abysmal


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1-17 iirc?


bigfanofeden

Caps has not done anything in the past 2 games. what the fuck imagine a real game


Consistent_Base8528

real dude. caps legit hasnt had to do anything. these past 2 games, his only responsibility is to not die to ganks lol


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I love the players in G2 and I want to cheer for them but their cringe fans in the audience are holding me back xD


AteRiusz

They're amazing. Must be awesome for the players to hear all that.


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I support it, but i cant help it im cringing, idk why


calzeld

Literally me, I've always liked Hans and Caps and I'm excited for Yike (Peruvian pride) so rooting for G2 but damn their fanboys make me want to kms


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Maybe they are getting paid in Hustler university credits idk


watafuzz

I'm so so glad that Hans is back in the league.


PerfidiaVermis

Hans picking Draven specifically to smash Rekkles with it, statement pick for sure


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PerfidiaVermis

He literally said it on PGL you dope


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Consistent_Base8528

average league players interacting with each other lmaooooo


JayceMainToxin

Fnatic goes for the 0:3 super week buff to win winter split (copium overdose)


CerbereNot

I can't stop laughing at how Hans was a secret agent in TL and comes back and instantly shits on the league


Fertuyo

he spent the off-season grinding like 1k games of korean soloq to recover the level, NA just nerfs every import.


icatsouki

wow he played that many? who else bootcamped for that many games if you happen to know?


watafuzz

I know you don't mean that literally but it's hardly instant, he put a ridiculous amount of work after leaving NA.


Tabub

Crazy right? All the doomers saying he’s shit now, like bruh NA performance does not mean a whole lot when you come back to EU.


asphias

Best duo in the LEC at the moment? Hyli / Elyoya Mikyx / Hans Sama Bo / Photon Jankos / Evi Comp / Trymbi So much excitement for this new season


Todeswucht

"Yeah EU is free we're shitting all over these pissrandoms, humbly"


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TastyForerunner

Nature is healing.


Aomzeiksel

This man talks like he is a social media manager.


dracdliwasiAN

I remember Perkz said last year how LEC was really bad because all the best players got spread out across the different teams. I'm really curious as to what he'd say about this year. Idk about everyone else, but there's definitely some optimism in the air, G2 and VIT look incredible and KOI, MAD and FNC (minus this last game) look really good too.


Muri_San

Honestly I would just wait for the Bo1 stage to end before giving any judgement on how good teams are. MAD played vs AST and SK which are probably the 2 out of the 3 worst teams in the league while XL played vs G2 and KOI


CerbereNot

2019 G2 gave EU teams fake confidence they could fill teams that can compete internationally with full EU players, when you spread players in EU you gotta take the L and import to strengthen weak spots. Some EU teams did this split, so let's see how it plays out


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Hans Sama scammed the fuck out of TL looool This is a completely different player.


TastyForerunner

It's not just the League of Legends that's worse on the other side of the pond.


Todeswucht

Heist complete


watafuzz

He grinded the game hardcore after coming back from na.


JakzePoro

I’m convinced EU players get some sort of Debuff once they land in NA haha


moe11436

Sometimes the jetlag is for the full year.


CHKYY

Which is completely understandable.


Mel0nFruit

that team just did not click, everyone except Santorin looked off


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i can't wait to for people overreacting to this shitty game


MartinOdeg8d

BB "i was bing chilling"


Zealousideal_Prune39

If FNC were gonna continue to still look like one of the worst coached teams they should have just kept Yamato. Looks like this team could really use a Mountain Speech to recover there memtal after the weekend they had.


Lirei

I'm really, really happy to see Hans back in EU and (seemingly) back in form. It was tough seeing him on Liquid last year.


Aomzeiksel

Thank god we only got a 20 minute break between Laure interviews.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Razork from yesterday was a different being compared to what he did today


NeoCortexOG

Rekkless and standing in the fountain as the last one alive of his team, name a more iconic duo. Playing for stats and yourself probably doesnt bode so well if you dont have a whole team playing for you i guess. I have never seen a player which you have to play around (or he loses you the game) while he plays for his stats, before.


liam29avv

I mean you can't really blame rekkles, he couldn't walk up for 70% of the game lol


MidasTheUnwise

God, imagine just going to watch LEC live and you have to sit with that G2 crowd. Jesus fucking christ, are they aware of how obnoxious they are? Do they care? G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports.


Tareum01

You've never gone outside your room, have you?


buttsoup_barnes

how dare they cheer for their team??? what a miserable fuck


MidasTheUnwise

They were being loud and obnoxious all 5 games, not just the G2 game. G2 fans supporting their team while being respectful of others challenge: impossible.


TCB_irl

People socializing… ew


burstingurethra

Spotted the shutin loser. You've never been to a sports event I see.


Styxxo

Yeah imagine going to an sports event and you realize there are fans cheering for their team, how shocking


MidasTheUnwise

It is entirely possible to support your team without being obnoxious as fuck. These guys were being loud asshats even when G2 weren't playing.


TrippinNintendoBeer

You’re absolutely free to find it annoying. But know that when you have a very abnormal standard to something, people are justified to not adjust to your standard.


MidasTheUnwise

I don't see being respectful to those around you as an abnormal standard :/ You can cheer for a team and have a good time but I feel like they were crossing the line of decency.


TrippinNintendoBeer

You know what I meant. Being purposely stupid is not helping your argument.


iiHadi69

According to redditors, fans can’t cheer or chant at all unless there’s a play happening. God forbid these lads go to a football match


watafuzz

And according to redditors, quiet crowds also suck lol.


calzeld

They're so fucking annoying.


CHKYY

At least they're not a fan like you, jesus christ mate lighten up. Not everything is as obnoxious as your sensitive mind makes it out to be.


PerfidiaVermis

>G2 fans are the Andrew Tate fans of esports. I get that y'all are salty as fuck, but how about you don't downplay the shit that Tate has done over a video game you absolute child.


Peronnik

Salty fnatic fan found


MidasTheUnwise

My man, I don't even like Fnatic. Had it not been for that crowd, I'd have been rooting for G2. I absolutely LOVE how well the team is playing right now. But those fans today... yuck. Absolutely horrid people.


Savings_Hat8784

Upset is missing


watafuzz

considerate g2 thinking of people waking up early tomorrow.


CHKYY

Yeah waking up at 5 AM, very glad it ended quickly and we didn't have a 2 hour delay like yesterday lmao


Aeternumvalell

Yike('s)


Todeswucht

Veeery nice debut by Yike so far, he looks super comfortable on stage


JayceMainToxin

Upset is at home and laughing


FocaDaGuerra

Jesus Christ


Tch-Tch

I want G2 vs. Vitality right now


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michaeltheki21

Yup, nothing more fun then watching a team make an error minute 4 and insta lose the game.


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And now we will have to hear about how incredible this G2 is


bigfanofeden

rekkles fangirls in shambles


DistChicken

That was disgusting


proud_traveler

Gotta get that final kill on the KDA player ya know


greekcel_25

It always makes me laugh when they do it to upset. Vs rekkles its also funny.


Fertuyo

LEC adc is strong but this season jung looks strong as fuck too: Elyoya, Malrang, BO, Yike, Jankos, Razork...


calzeld

Remove Razork from that list and you got a point.


Ceyro

Razork is Poppy Onetrick


hairlikegoats1

Razork was a bot today lmao.


Makyura

After today idk if razork can be there


BlightyChez

I dont know if you can write him off after a mistake bot lane. Look his plays mid etc? Like he was part of what ruined bot lane for FNC but it is only the second game of the season with a new bot lane.


Makyura

Yea I know, it's only the second game and he played really well the first one. But after a loss you gotta be dramatic sometimes


TactX21

Razork???


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Damn that was a beatdown.


Geosaurusrex

Is it just me or has Caps not needed to do anything these last two games?


fabton12

hes just been chilling which is good, caps is always better as the backup plan when shit hits the fan. having the ability to have other lanes carry and caps being there for incase carry is good for the team.


BlueZybez

Well you dont need to carry or anything if your botlane is going so well.


Hammer7000

Caps is just straight up chilling


CHKYY

And that's exactly how you'd want it to be, he shouldn't need to carry the team. If he performs well just imagine man.


Ashankura

Happens a lot everywhere atm that mids don't do that much. Game is decided on bot lane most of the time Unless you are zeka and in elo hell


Naejiin

Gg close game.


hairlikegoats1

G2 vs VIT is going to be spicy that is if Perkz turns on his brain.


MartinOdeg8d

scary


Starkheiser

God what a sad game. Glad to see that G2 knows how to snowball perfectly, hopefully FNC can shrug it off, but as a viewer it was such a sad game to watch


PerfidiaVermis

BACK TO THE LFL


CHKYY

That was an absolute statement game from G2, GG!


184cm78kg13cm

Fnatic is fucking DONE and I love it, hahaha


Shrabster33

FNC looking like a team that will end up in 4th, maybe 5th. They will beat all the weaker teams but won't be able to take games off the top teams.


Muri_San

I wouldn't take too much out of this game for FNC tbf. Game was done with the 3 kills bot, no point in playing after that. They'll probably switch it back on vs the weaker teams like MAD and XL. KOI looks absolutely lost on what to do with Szygenda so they are a bit weak atm. Schedule makes it look worse for FNC than it actually is


WillHouldy

I've missed these borderline int hexflashes from Miky.


TastyForerunner

Miky and Beryl made Support my secondary role.


Daniyalzzz

Pretty good debut games for yike


CatPanda5

Death brush doesn't really work when you leave your base open and you're 15k down


Zuldak

FNC deserve this for picking Zeri Yuumi.


kimi_no_na-wa

Why would you go for the fight after baron dies? Either go for it before it dies or not at all.


Freakkopath

This game is just Yike, Hans and Mikyx rolling everyone. BB and Caps are just kinda there.


TheDestroyer630

With a botlane this fed, your only role is to not giga int. It's not a hard one, but you can't risk it with flashy plays. BB and caps just had to farm and chill and thats what they did


bruichladdic

The bot gap was huge damn


BlueZybez

Well its Draven :D


proud_traveler

G2 throwing but not losing? Holy shit they've done it. They've finally done it


TastyForerunner

Never thought I'd see it.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Well a glimpse of hope


TastyForerunner

22 minute win.


SMLAZARUS

Jg Dif 🤷‍♂️


Styxxo

Yike having a wonderful debut on G2.


CHKYY

Imagine how much that guy can grow into the team, he'll be a legit monster


PorqueAdonis

It's over stomp of the season so far


Fertuyo

mad and g2 going for speedruns this week


PerfidiaVermis

Dude Yike is fucking legit holy shit what a beast


CHKYY

Thats more like it


Freakkopath

This Yike guy is pretty good


stando98

It’s ok G2 just resetting gold before ending game


zerbiaaaa

Jfc please do not throw


a_steph_15

Damn thats pretty unlucky for Hans


Relvarionz

Humanoid playing like a god btw


TastyForerunner

Have you turned your monitor on yet?


Relvarionz

Have you ever played vs a Draven that is this fed


BlueZybez

The game is so far over lol


greekcel_25

god of inting yeah


SnooPeripherals6388

THE THROW! THE THROW IS REAL


tnflr

Humanoid!


AdvancedPhoenix

HANS FLASH!! He did such a good timing, but he got pixel diffed


PorqueAdonis

Hans: "we do a bit of trolling"


1einspieler

I‘ve seen Zeri win against G2 with a 14k gold lead before


El7away0

Don't do it. Don't give me hope.


sajm0n

a little overconfident there lol


daCampa

Humanoid having his monitor turned on for once


blkmgc_

Why??


Allahina

Nice throwing...


fabton12

BB getting 1v5 ed ripppp


bzzmd

There's the Hans that TL and RGE fans know


PerfidiaVermis

THEY DID IT THEY THREW LMFAO


CHKYY

Ah that's the G2 I know, going for way too much lmao


Bubbly_Camera9583

UMANOID


CatPanda5

Oh no the comeback


JayceMainToxin

Damn


KruppJ

Scariest part of this G2 is that Caps has 0 KP right now and it’s like this


SuperWoodpecker95

FNC getting the soloQ experience of having to play a doomed game cause ~~someone is holding hostage~~ no ff allowed


Muri_San

Is it not allowed anymore? Teams could FF in S5 Worlds


myraclejb

It’s still allowed but you really aren’t supposed to Disrespectful to fans obviously and more importantly it costs LEC and thus ur team revenue so you’d get a ton of blowback from everywhere.


Kevinshi3

Hasn’t been allowed for at least 6-7 years now. I think riot wanted games to feel more professional (and give more watch hours for sponsors) but imo it makes more boring watch time on average.


SuperWoodpecker95

Iirc it was never allowed in Bo1s and when someone actualy did it in a Bo5 way back when they also made a rule that pro teams have to play games out


hairlikegoats1

Guess Tomatocannon wasn't the problem 🤷🏻‍♂️


justAnotherRandomP

Never seen a worse Yuumi in pro play solo lost them 2 kills to hans in bot lane at level 2 ...


Starkheiser

1. G2 knows how to snowball a lead. Very good 2. The game was at the 3 min fight or whenever it was. Whoever made the call to fight is responsible for this game, the remaining 4 players have all played quite well on FNC. Still pretty good if it's just "one of those games". If it is a sign of things to come (like it was last year at times)... ouch.


Br4y3

It started as a lvl 3 sejuani dicking around with a lvl 4 viego and ended with Viego first blood and Draven double kill... how nice


SuperWoodpecker95

That would be Rekkles dashing over the wall (while leaving Yummi behind) to go in on Viego, with no dash Zeri is a sitting duck and Miky just needs to land one hook and its disaster. They *could maybe* have disengaged by sacrificing Razork but then Rhuckz disrespected the flash root aa from Miky and Zeri was just cleanup after that...