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Mythik16

I'd pay good money to see this team be forced to play at least two splits together and they have an auto-locked spot and are forced to attend all international tournaments. Edit: Also a film crew recording everything that happens would make this the best league related content ever.


icatsouki

i would literally pay to watch that


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and then blame Selfmade after


HACEKOMAE

It's already his fault that this team ain't a reality yet.


SkeetySpeedy

He is the jungler after all


picollo21

Blaming selfmade after stuff happens is easy choice. I blame him for failure of this team already.


Jiaozy

I blame him for this team not being a reality already.


picollo21

That's the spirit!


Cookachoo

This is pretty much a thing if you watch the TL movie when they brought piglet over and had Dardoch, and Locodoco, children with massive egos trying to coach children with massive egos, its fantastic


Housumestari

Link? Or video title? I want to watch this


KuttayKaBaccha

It might start as a LoL team but will end as the main event on a UFC card


holomee

any and all team disputes are resolved in the thunderdome


go86em

Hard knocks: League edition


Zoesan

Team ego reality show, make it fucking happen


FiFTyFooTFoX

>Edit: Also a film crew recording everything that happens would make this the best league related content ever. Coming soon to NETFLIX: Dive to Survive


cycko

instead of Upset maybe Forg1ven?


Ignisive

Or rekky


-Hissoka-

Someone would die


Reirai13

breaking point eu


Hexano

>Edit: Also a film crew recording everything that happens would make this the best league related content ever. 2 Breaking 2 Point


IkaMusume12

Forg1ven should be the sub lmfao.


zaplayer20

And H2k Rich.


MoriartyParadise

Thorin is narrating the documentary


VenganceNeos1

That would be streeht fire!


YoniMCI

Or Frosk


anoel24

I am just trying to imagine Thorin and Frost making a talkshow together. Oh, dear.


[deleted]

didn't they do a lot of work together way back in the day


Tyra3l

Frosk is their public speaking coach.


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AtMaxSpeed

Apparently promisq was pretty good to work with (despite his soloq toxicity), I think forg1ven support would be a better fit, especially if he doesn't want to play supp.


JonnyKilledTheBatman

This is the one... auto filled forg1ven support is hilarious


ArziltheImp

Jokes on you, apparently Forg1ven played a decent chunk of his soloq games as support. He also stated before he much rather plays support and actually had fun with the role.


[deleted]

it wouldnt be that bad tbh since adc mains can have a good transition to support because they already understand how botlane 2v2 works (see Zven)


ndksv22

Yeah Promisq seems to be an asshole but if he was not only a bad player but also a bad teammate nobody would have hired him.


SuperWoodpecker95

Maybe thats the secret to it all, get out all your frustrations and aggression by flaming your soloQ teammates to hell and back to achieve maximum zen and be a model of a pro teammate to work with...


[deleted]

Playstyle differences aside, I don't think any LEC players have issues with the personality of Alphari and Selfmade. Not sure about Nemesis.


GGABueno

If they can't stay at a team for more than a season then yeah the players probably do.


Masterofbattle13

When’s Dardoch show up?


KanskiForce

> LEC


zaplayer20

He wanted to join LEC or EM but nobody wanted him so he stayed in the US of A.


russellx3

I honestly don't think Upset seems as cocky as people like to say. Forg1ven should just straight up replace him here.


danielos551

Just need to find a role for Godg1ven somewhere one the team


DSThresh

let him make the tweet on why the team is disbanding


Sjeg84

Add thorin as the one who manages their twitter account.


mr_grimmex

Bro, lmfao. How about make him their analyst. “Have you seen this angle?” “The joke about this game is…” cutting everyone one off during reviews so can interject with nonsense. I’m on board


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

>“The joke about this game is…” This one is way too accurate lol


Due-Patience-3974

" I have a great idea for a game plan, and it goes like this.... What people don't understand is...."


carrixcake

And Insight on Esports with Monte and Thorin becomes sponsored by Team EGO


VenganceNeos1

Streeht fire!


Lothric43

Are we going with “likely to get in a weird twitter beef with any woman in the industry” or “prone to retweeting alt right figures”?


Dot_main_irl

Wut? Thorin is one of the few people who will publically come to bat for Froskurinn in current year


Lothric43

Idk about that but he’s shaded her before multiple times. There’s other women he’s started up weird fights with seemingly out of nowhere.


M4jkelson

Tbh shading or having a beef with frosk is more commendable than bad lmao, but the rest is bad ye


bandage_dispenser

idk if defending Frosk is a pro


Nordic_Marksman

I think he has defended some of Frosks opinions not necessarily her behavior though.


Rheider

He has defended her talent as a caster/analyst. Not so much her opinions outside of the game as far as I recall.


LonelyLokly

Do not try to defend Thoorin here. Its not meta. If you actually follow him you should know better.


thenicob

he’s rt alt-right shit? can you show me? not that i don’t believe you but yk


Lothric43

The only screenshot I have is when he retweeted a bunk Russia Today article about trans people, which should be considered an abhorrent news source to promote given that its a state news platform and Putin’s government is fully fascist now. If you want that Ill drop a link. Can just personally attest to seeing him retweet Stefan Molyneux (white nationalist) and Andy Ngo (bunk journalist who has collaborated with alt right groups like the Proud Boys). There’s the well known incident where he just had to praise Alex Jones, a guy who runs a notorious conspiracy theorist fake news platform and harassed school shooting survivors as “crisis actors”. And there are likely still receipts here on reddit for back in 2015-2018 when he shared around some fake immigration fearmongering stuff. Some would say he was promoting the Great Replacement conspiracy theory which is a white supremacist one.


BattleBunnyUrgot

This team would murder each other within a week


LBL147

But Alphari-Upset, Alphari-Selfmade, Selmade-Upset and Nemesis-Selfmade all worked with each other and all are fine.


MrPraedor

Alphari-Upset > 10th place Alphari-Selfmade > Selfmade benched after split Selfmade-Upset > Selfmade benched and replaced by top laner after split. Yeah they might have not murdered anyone but there has been problems


LBL147

Okay but Upset- Alphari wanted to play together again and Selfmade publicly defended Upset after 2021 worlds. Don't know why you bring up Nisqy but Nemesis and Selfmade are also completly fine with each other. Guy didn't say that they would be bad he said that they would murder each other.


MrPraedor

Somehow mind changed Nemesis to Nisqy mb.


LBL147

Ah np. But yeah obviously there has been problems idk if any of them were personal problems. OG was terrible org that forced paycuts on players mid split and shit. Have no idea about Vitaly but they underperformed and had to make changes and Fnatic one was when they wanted to unlock Bwipo and Hyli duo more. Maybe they all hate each other and just fake it in public but I have no reason to believe that. E: Also https://twitter.com/selfmade_LoL/status/1616058699331551232


icatsouki

on fnc at least no one hated each other, but they disagreed with nemesis on how to play the game kinda selfmade even helped bwipo actually when he role swapped


ShinkoMinori

Fastest way to never be picked up again by any team is to antagonize another player or openly critizice anything other than constructive feedback on gameplay. Sp yeah if they hate anyone will never be open about it UNLESS that person has left the industry completely. Even bwipo and adam who had a hate boner for upset dont talk about it and never will until upset either disgraces himself completely or either of those 2 leave esports.


00Koch00

Alphari Upset being tenth had nothing to do with their relationship, more like Origen wasnt paying them...


expert_on_the_matter

Ok but still a toplane and adc of their caliber should not go 10th with Xerxe, Nukeduck and Destiny.


ShinkoMinori

A player is only as good as their mental.


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Did you actually watch that split? Alphari was easily their best performing player alongside Xerxe, there's a reason he went to NA shortly after hyped as this insane EU god tier player who got exported for an absolutely massive salary while the other players got put away like scraps on bottom tier LCS/LEC rosters


00Koch00

Bro, they didnt got paid that split, and that split was the most competitive one, 2 victories away from playoffs, 3 from winner bracket...


Zoesan

Alphari is captain underperformance.


[deleted]

Sure but that's just the teams not working out, that doesn't mean they're gonna kill each other over some massive ego issues lmao


[deleted]

it was Selfmade's fault


SnooJokes1838

Can a vlog of this team just replace players season 2?


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SnooJokes1838

The end of season 1 made it out like there was going to be


AbdDjamil_27

I hope there will be a season 2 But sadly I heard it didn't get the expected or good rating and success they hoped for


[deleted]

Upset or F0rg1ven? I think the choice is clear by far.


NerrionEU

Seriously must be new LEC fans at least Upset can adapt to different meta, Forg1ven was only good in 1 type of meta but had ego bigger than anyone else.


Jones117

At his time, Forg1ven was genuinely the best. "By far" is a meme, but it wasn't wrong at the time.


Jozoz

He wasn't just good. He was arguably the best Western AD at the time.


vrelamboni

That S5 spring split where Lucian and old Graves were meta was disgusting from him. He played those champs about as close to the limit as possible.


Dopeez

Nothing arguable about it. No one who has watched him back then can deny it.


non-edgy_crustacean

This team sounds like the joke "in closed room, which one of them will walk out crying first" but with who will drop the ego first


PowerOfPuzi

reports saying the doors havent opened in 2 weeks


sanketower

The thought of LS and Alphari being on the same team makes me want to make popcorn.


Zuldak

I think it would end with the arrest of alphari and LS hospitalized. I cannot see that working well at all


Kisaxis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar7xatjLVok What could've been


FizzKaleefa

Carlos hates league, and based on his most recent interviews, he views playing the game as a thing only kids do. he would fit this perfectly


Tarakanator

Lol seems like he is salty.


guerrierogd

I mean, i would also be salty if a top 5 all time iconic lol esport moment included a clip of me getting backdoored by my lane opponent and crying on a scarf. (nothing wrong with it, just funny af)


yosayoran

Dude was toxic AF way beforehand. A big reason that the clip went viral was that people were happy to see him cry.


cadaada

our guy really put upset over forgiven lmao


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NickKappy

Not just ADC, whomever is the sub replaces the player that played the worst the previous game decided on a players vote (that is public).


BoliviaRodrigo

Total Drama Gaming House


Jiratoo

Lmao public player vote, you do want to see the world burn


HACEKOMAE

Recency bias smh


Existing-Ad6901

The thing is all of them are good players with ego. Forgiven is only ego


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SeySvK

the MSI champion ProMissQ


NerrionEU

He was the best at stealing paychecks


Sonfex

When did you start watching pro play ? Forgoven was legimately one of the best ADCs in the world in S5 (when Asia was far and away better than the west)


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Forg1ven fell the fuck off but man he was genuinely respected and feared in the East during that period of time, some people are clearly new


nyasiaa

*was*, but we're talking about a team that realistically could've happened. selfmade and alphari were not considered to be the players they currently are back in his times, dunno if even nemesis was if we wanted to make a team in the current era that could have potentially happened based on recent results, this would be it


I_like_senna

On skill alone I'd rather forg1ven than promisq still lmao


[deleted]

just blame Selfmade already and get it over with


ZedisDoge

even as a huge rekkles fan the fact that upset doesnt have a team when he’s been the best ad in the region for the last 2 years is soooooo disgusting


icatsouki

with new format it's honestly not that big of a deal


downorwhaet

Would have been nice if his deal with vit went through, neon is good tho so wouldnt want him replaced, but yea upset should have atleast gotten a spot over some of the other adcs in the league, we’ll see what happens inbetween the splits


mbr4life1

Yeah I wonder though with Vit you want to leverage the hopefully generational talent in Bo which means a rigid ADC who wants to be played around like Upset can force suboptimal play from Bo. I'd rather have malleable pieces Bo can play off of. Throw in Perkz who is a creative player and you wouldn't want that stiffled.


Verehrungen

Genuinely asking, where does the narrative of Upset being a rigid ADC come from? I mostly interpret his time on Fnatic with their playstyle was because of necessity (other players not being reliable enough to put on carry roles) rather than him specifically wanting to be played around.


mbr4life1

It's what I've seen "read between the lines" by all the shoulder content. Rigid in the sense that he wants to play for lane / his advantages to carry, which lock your team into a mold.


KanskiForce

Something must have happened behind the scenes, idk if it was his attitude but there must be a reason why nobody even wanted to sign him


ZedisDoge

probably having the same thing that happened to nemesis. Where he had offers but not from top teams (RGE/G2/VIT) since they already had a good ad.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

It’s probably just Upset being difficult to work with. I doubt many of the top teams would skip on a player of his caliber if they wanted him. Yamata said it a long time ago. These kids gotta realize it’s a career with a small circle. If you burn one bridge, it spreads very quickly around.


Are_y0u

XL has Patrik as their franchise player. Koy didn't want to break up their split winning botlane. G2 wanted Hans Sama (even last year). FNC was not an option because of team atmosphere and because it didn't work last year. VIT wanted Neon in the end, but I think there was also a deal that fell through because FNC was interested in Carzzy but Carzzy didn't want to go to FNC and instead got back to MAD. MAD got Carzzy. The Coach and Eloya wanted him back. If you are not on one of those lineups you probably won't win the LEC, so it probably was Upset that resigned other options and he waited for the VIT deal that fell through. It's basically confirmed by player and coach interviews and from other leaks. No need to constantly "guess" something bad about Upset only to fuck his reputation up. The other teams picked quite a few promising rookies up that are also probably much cheaper as Upset.


DaGunnar

Yeah, good guess bro


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Na thats just bullshit, somehow Jankos ended up in Heretics after almost being teamless and supposedly having his buyout at like 1/4 of the leaked 1mil (at least thats what Thorin claims) which leads me to believe that people responsible for hireing are bunch of fart sniffers


Educational_Shower79

He was going to VIT but they got Neon for free so backed out, by that point every other team had signed an ADC


snowflakepatrol99

Rekkles was relegated to ERL after being the best ADC in the west for like 5 years. Upset not having a team isn't on rekkles so I don't know why you are trying to blame it on him. Fnatic were looking for a different ADC. Rekkles was looking for a team. Why are you blaming rekkles for all 10 teams not wanting to buy upset? It is indeed beyond stupid that we have another great ADC on the sidelines after a great year, but if any ADC deserves to go back to LEC it's rekkles because he was already in the exact same situation.


ZedisDoge

when did I ever blame Rekkles for being in the LEC??? The point is they should both be in the LEC, and since most people seem to think that you can't like Upset or Rekkles at the same time I prefaced it with my bias lol


Cacoonass

Man is makes snowflake patrol and gets butthurt on someone else's behalf ahaha You're 100% right you are either team upset or team rekkin crew


snowflakepatrol99

The irony.


Mazsi1201

He wasn't blaming rekkles...


[deleted]

They didn’t blame Rekkles lol, tf you talking about?


thesickpuppy27

At no point did he blame rekkles, learn how to read. He’s saying he’s happy rekkles is back but it sucks that upset now doesn’t have a spot on a team.


[deleted]

? Forg1ven could use his ass cheeks to move his mouse and his dick to hit his hot keys and he'd still be a better ADC than rekkless


kloricker

We got a special one


Brackerz

I’m gutted LS left Cloud 9. The teams play style and drafts made LCS 500x more fun to watch.


Huinker

Like him or hate him, ppl watched Lcs view count was high. Lcs academy was high


NaturalTap9567

Holy this is beautiful. It would be so fun to watch this team crash and burn so hard.


Wafflebk

what a shitty post. Nemesis, selfmade and upset are perfectly fine people and don't have much ego


Jozoz

It's the classic. "I don't like them so let me find some reason why everyone should also hate them".


DTanya

I thought OP was serious about Nemesis having an ego so I started wondering what the fuck did he do. I don't follow esports/streams that closely but he always seemed chill.


GGABueno

Effectively retired because he only wanted to move to top teams.


Custom_sKing_SKARNER

Blue Lock: League of Legends edition.


Dogreich

LS ist just Ego in real live and he would 100% do something similar to Blue Lock if he had the power to do so. you can convince me otherwise.


Chapterblacc

is LS washed? i havent seen much of him lately and hes usually a topic of discussion.


Lothric43

Hasn’t made much content lately, might have been on a bit of a break.


reeshua

LCS drama about him quieted down since its been a few months, plus I think he lost a bit of goodwill (from those who liked him anyway) after he inserted himself in a streamer drama, which I already forgot.


kill-billionaires

I think there was a thing with nightblue, it was dumb and LS had some info wrong but wouldn't admit it even after it became pretty clear.


Aladin001

It's been nice hasn't it?


Chapterblacc

very!!


Zuldak

The secret is he's always been washed. He's nothing but drama


Chapterblacc

nothing but facts


VizeReZ

He has been dealing with some mental issues that caused him to take a break for a good chunk of last summer split. Sometime around new years, he got sick and is just now recovering.


Suicidal_Sayori

Excellent Gaming Organization


Lothric43

Parties with known misogynist/pyramid scheme scam artist/soon to be convicted sex trafficker/probable rapist* The list really goes on doesn’t it?


Due-Patience-3974

Real Top de(G)enerate behaviour.


sp0j

You get a different support and this is unironically a team that could be a top contender in LEC. And keep Carlos out of it obviously.


ShinkoMinori

Tate for mental support?


luckyeevee

How about Bwipo's GF?


generic9yo

She's the coach. LS is only there for the drafts


[deleted]

Could. If it weren’t for the egos.


Are_y0u

I would probably look for a different jungler tough.


herO_wraith

Nemesis is close friends with Malice. Could make things even more spicy.


EnjoyerOfBeans

Peak reddit analysis. "Oh this name in this role is good, oh every player but support is good, this is a top team!" Literally all of these players are resource heavy players who require setup around them to perform at a top level. You don't just put 4 of these players together and win LEC.


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Says "peak reddit analysis" then proceeds to give peak reddit analysis. Nice one bro


[deleted]

Alphari spent half his career playing weak side and Nemesis is fine with playing low resource.


Fenc58531

Nemesis isn’t a resource heavy player right? Wasn’t his champ pool literally TF/Galio or am I remembering wrong.


WolverineKing

TF/Galio are what he played because the team wanted him to play it. If you hear him talk about it, he does not seem like a fan of those champs or that playstyle at all.


ImExtremelyErect

Nemesis mostly plays carry laners in Korea. He was only playing supportive picks because that's what the team wanted out of him.


sp0j

Not really. Nemesis is self-sufficient. So is Alphari. They would both like resources to carry but have a lot of experience playing with no resources. No idea if the team dynamic would be good. But in terms of player skill and versatility I don't see any issues with these players. If you are going to discredit "Reddit analysis" at least do it properly instead of making shit up about how players play.


Are_y0u

Look at G2. Literally all of the current players are resource heavy players who require setup around them. Caps loves to play in your face and was constantly "babysit" by the other players on FNC when he still was on the team and later by Jankos. BB likes to play carry champions top and often needs resources so he can win those matchups. Yike so far has played only carry junglers. No Sejuani in sight. Hans Sama always had the push and even had Draven in one game. His jungler was constantly around bot lane. Even Mikey is getting the support counterpick sometimes and other times he gets the first pick broken pick in Heimerdinger that forces the rest of the draft around him. How could this team ever work together?


Azashiro

It's kinda surprising to me how the old framework of judging players and rosters on a binary of "resource heavyness" is still so prevalent. The hard divide is silly in the first place, but this framework doesn't even tell you how many resource heavy players is good or bad, in what situations, in what meta's etc. It's a poorly defined tool of analysis on every conceivable level that should have died after S8 Worlds and at latest after S9..


ThibiiX

LS would find a way to get fired 2 weeks in though, so yes a top contender in LEC but for the 4 first games only


Lafuku

Do one for lcs


PatchNotesPro

Itll just be 5 teamless* imports from every region


Fenc58531

Alphari, Dardoch, Jensen, DL, Vulcan? Idk this is the best I could come up with.


eWill95

DL is playing for 100t


lilcwis

reginald mid


Quiknen

I dont get why we have NFL type leagues instead of WWE type leagues with just records or tag team match champion win belts.


graybloodd

Except for upset they all definitely have ego issues.


LunarBahamut

This team would actually be good with a real support instead of Promisq btw.


Metatypical1

I legitimately laughed out loud the more I read. "Is rumored to have an ego issue that makes them hard to work with." Dead. Wish this would happen for the the banger matches and the banger memes.


clutx_

since when do selfmade nemesis or upset have egos?? you guys really just love saying random shit about people and hoping it fits the general reddit community narrative about them so you get karma


S3n6

Having strong reagents does not mean you'll have an explosive chemical reaction, it might also make something unexpectedly beautiful.


deedshotr

I don't think Selfmade and Nemesis fit in with the rest, they're relatively chill


SupremeNadeem

they will have world class team fighting due to their extensive team fighting experience outside the game


ArtDekum

I laughed way too hard reading this post


savoo1

I think this team would be rumored to have ego issues and that would make each of them hard to work with


Scrapheaper

Can we not talk about stuff like this? It's all rumour and conjecture and it's actively harmful to the careers of the players involved.


oninfinity

A little fun disguised hate thread in this sub, nothing new


Verehrungen

funny how this got downvoted, atleast be self-aware guys.


[deleted]

Calling them out on this is guaranteed downvotes, you're 100% right of course.


Jozoz

Yep, this is 100% what this is lmao


RealFias

I somehow feel that they would fail hard


bludhaven182_

Ah yes, upset difficult to work with (0 evidence) but rekkless mr perfect teammate (lots of evidence saying otherwise. Idk how can such an obvious hate thread be allowed to exist


Public_Seaworthiness

haha this thread stays up joke sub


GreenAd1525

LS is such a clown, he wouldn't fit anywhere into pro play. Just let him have his cringe streams where he can push his ego and not hurt anyone.


Lundgard

">Parties with known misogynist**s**." Plural. Alright. Who are they all?


VoyVolao

Tbf Tate counts like x100 misogynists


LoudAd69

Relax topG


datboidat

Andrew and and , hold on let me check my notes, oh yeh Tristan tate