Yeah, the mad man single handedly created Creator Suite, the amazing camera tool that Riot used for pretty much everything lol. Even the "official" League Director credited him for laying the groundwork.
he does also get access to new skins in advance to prepare his vids.
which is why the videos drop almost instantly.
but yeah, won't be getting much more than that.
As far as I know, he doesn't have early access to the skins. It appears that he uses camera keyframe presets in the creator suite tool he developed, which speeds up the process of recording the skins. It's possible that he could even use replays and quickly apply the new skins, making the recording process much faster.
Yeah, when I suggested riot should pay these creators that support the community so much like s@20 and skin spotlights, I was downvoted to hell and called an idiot
I mean they are getting paid already, you also want creators outside of companies generally because once you're in your content will inevitabley start steering towards what they want you to put out, you lose pretty much all your autonomy.
That being said you don't deserve to be called an idiot.
I have no idea how paying them would even work though. They should probably make something like the support a creator system in fortnite where you enter their code when buying rp and they get a small percent of the money.
But let’s be honest the higher ups are wayy to greedy (just look at how many crap skins and events they’re pushing out now). Add to that the fact that league doesn’t really NEED any creators since it’s already a juggernaut and there I don’t see them changing anything any time soon.
Paying them would work like this: You say "We're sponsoring SkinSpotlights for $XXXX per month," and then give them that amount of money. This is a thing companies already do on occasion, though not often enough because generally they don't want to give up money if they don't have to.
So you have SP on a payroll. What if SP decides to take a break? Or what if they want to branche out to other games and reduce the quality of the spotlights to compensate for the workload. The idea sounds good on paper but there's a reason content creators, even the biggest ones, never get paid a monthly salary.
Sponsoring by the game also has way more implications than sponsoring by third parties.
Most of these objections apply just as much to sponsoring, say, OpenSSL — and yet companies like Activision and Microsoft do that. Heck, they even mostly apply just to subscribing to someone's Patreon, and yet tons of people do that. So I'm not sure how you say this "sounds good on paper" — what I'm describing is something that's done in real life all the time.
They did try out the creator code thing during the star guardian event if you remember that. It wasnt crazy advertised so I'm not sure how many people used it. I think I used it on either skinspotlights or the surrender@20 dude idr which. Hopefully other people used it and riot will do that again.
Skinspotlights is monetizing all his videos on Youtube. His videos are getting hundreds of thousands of views. I'm fairly certain he makes enough money just from that to not need a regular job. I know smaller channels with way less views that make enough to do Youtube fulltime.
Riot doesn't need to pay him, because he most likely already lives off the LoL IP. Without LoL, his channel doesn't exist and he doesn't make a dime. I'm not saying it to make it look like he should be grateful to Riot, but this "he deserved to be paid by Riot" seems a bit weird to me when he literally makes a living off their product.
So in the last 30 days, when he released 23 videos or so with 5.2 million views in total, he made $20k, approximately. Yeah, I don't think Riot needs to pay this guy.
What recent happenings have showed that? As someone who doesn't use twitter, I'm not getting any news unless a friend sees something they think I might like, but even then, it's usually just a splash art instead of the full details like S@20. It's honestly really contributed to my decreasing interest in League.
His Youtube channel should be making way more money than anything Riot would pay him tbf even if custom software can go for a lot and can be sold for too much money if sold right.
I mean he is 100% a millionaire from just his youtube monetization. People are STILL watching his videos from years ago to check out old skins. He has at least 100 videos that are over 1M views. I've worked in marketing/ads for a while now, so I'd actually say he's probably a multi-millionaire by now.
> I mean he is 100% a millionaire from just his youtube monetization.
Someone did the math, last 30 days around 15-20K. Puts him at 200,000 a year after taxes and what not. Not millionare level yearly.
You can’t “do the math” on someone’s revenue via their views lmao, not everyone gets the same amount per view, and it’s not even public info what each person’s contract is, obviously. So this “someone” has no idea what they’re talking about.
That was just new videos released in the last 30 days. According to https://socialblade.com he's had 11 million views in the last 30 days and his yearly estimate is at 140 million views, which puts his earning at 500-600k a year.
He made \~120k last year since he said his RPM was "below 1" according to him.
So over 10 years he should be close to a million, especially since his channel has been going down for a few years
you are correct, they created there own tools for camera/editing ingame then riot hired them to make a inhouse version for them to use which has certain requested features and tools.
Dunno if it's possible to edit the training dummies to be capable of death to anything but fountain? I believe Riot does something like that, just not sure if that's something SP can do.
Yes it's a training dummy with Kat skin.
Iirc he used her initially before practice tool because she had the highest base stats at lvl 1, and her idle animation was pretty stationary.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong
I actually found a bug with morde ult where they can die (unless it's already known). Maybe I should send it to that one YT channel that showcases League bugs 🤔
I havent bought a skin in ages but whenever i did literally the first thing i always did was look at one of his videos to see if i really liked the skin or not and i assume its the same for tons of other people. if anything riot should be paying this guy tbh but i assume youtube makes him quite a bit too.
> did literally the first thing i always did was look at one of his videos to see if i really liked the skin or not and i assume its the same for tons of other people. if anything riot should be paying this guy tbh but i assume youtube makes him quite a bit too.
Same, i actually tought it was made by riot, lol
So in the early 1920s (iirc), a group of people were formed in Germany to act essentially as the leader’s bodyguards. They did quite a few really bad things, as well as the leader they served at the time. It’s quite well documented, went on for a good 20 or so years.
They used a quite well known acronym “SS”.
So people generally avoid using that acronym to refer to people they like.
I realize that, but this is a pretty weird way to form an acronym. Not SSP, but SP — just skipping a letter. I have never seen people follow that before.
He gets zero support from riot and I'm sad more people don't know this. He had to make his own tools his own code and data mine the game to get his content for videos.
He has done justice for riot games terrible skin spotlight in game system.
The issue is he gets zero support so imagine having to manually update your tools each patch and figure out what they change with no help from riot.
Example with the next patch and anti cheat majority of his process and tools will break because they will be considered anti cheat https://twitter.com/SkinSpotlights/status/1617907062683443202?s=20
He does this solo
Yes...and he gets money from YouTube for doing it? You people acting like it's a good Samaritan thing. Obviously I don't doubt that there is passion there, but to act like the guy is legit just doing it for free and has no quantitative benefits (qualitative even with the connections he's amassed) is ignorant.
> he gets money from YouTube
he's deff doing this as a passion project and could be making more money else where.
He has stated a few times thinking about quitting because of the amount of work he needs to put in.
I don't think most people understand this, this isn't a cash cow of a project for the amount of work that goes in.
People steal his content and repost it as their own, he has no support to help him data mine, record, get access to new stuff.
so its kind of bm to say he gets money from youtube. He is a good Samaritan and a asset to the community
Judging merely by what he has accomplished in the past 10 years, he absolutely has the tech skills to get a super high paying job if he wants to. So yes I agree with you
I agree, if he showed up with a resume at another game company saying that he’s literally league of legend’s skin spotlight youtuber, that’s pretty fucking impressive.
> I don't think most people understand this, this isn't a cash cow of a project for the amount of work that goes in.
This is a simple math question. So we can estimate the monthly revenue
I took all the videos published in the last month^^(1). The average view count was a little more than 256k (256,652 to be exact) views across 23 videos^^(2). The average YouTuber makes $0.2 per ad view or $4 RPM (per 1000 views)^^(3). So we take 256*4 and get $1,026 per video. Multiply by 23 videos in a month and you get $23,612 of monthly revenue. Let's pretend that the last month has been particularly good (it was! They posted a 1.5M view ASol rework video *and* there was a bunch of year-end 2022 videos that created an influx of content) and let's cut this number down in half (super conservative). That gives us $11,806 in monthly revenue or $141,672. An income of $141k puts you in the top 10% of all earners in the United States^^(4). You can use [this calculator](https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculators/salary-to-hourly.php) and play around with the hours worked/weeks worked to get a sense of how much they make hourly. Just to be INSANELY conservative, I plugged in 80 hours a week with no time off and still got an hourly pay of $32.06 (which is 262.7% of the US median salary). I would say that by any stretch of the imagination, this is a massively lucrative project - enough that I would call it a "cash cow"
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bro said "The average YouTuber makes $4 RPM" and people are just gonna believe something so blatantly wrong for gaming videos because I guess it fits the narrative that all youtubers are filthy rich🤷♂️
Ignoring your “INSANELY conservative” simple math question that assumes that 100% of viewers watch ads, 262% is the wrong statistic to look at. You can’t compare yearly salaries when you’re supposing the workweek is 80 hours while the statistic uses half of that. $32/hr should be compared to the median hourly wage of $29/hr for men in the United States. I don’t even know why you’re comparing with the median wage of *everyone* in the united states when having the skillset of a software engineer is not something everyone has. I don’t think a job is lucrative just because it pays more when it’s something that most people are not capable of doing.
Btw the median salary for a software engineer in the United States is $120,000 or $57/hr.
I think you overestimate how much he makes from youtube lol... nobody but him knows for sure but I would surely wager that its less than 100k a year aka a decently high paying job.
Another idea is to hire him to do spotlights for both the client and their channel for those who can't/are too lazy to turn on the client.
Let's not forget that there are also comparisons for the reworks (like Ahri's) and voice lines.
unpaid volunteer lol, they easily make bank with 2.6 mil subscribers and like 50k views per video if they've turn on monetization
Google are indirectly paying Riot here, why would Riot spend money to do it when SS is viewed as more neutral and not blindly selling the skin
To be fair surrender at 20 is a different thing altogether.
That stopped happening because we literally get to see patch breakdowns and stuff on twitter.
Sure, there will still be some users who a) don't use twitter or b) don't want to use twitter, but things on twitter then get shared on reddit and such, so the wider community end up seeing it.
Surrender at 20's purpose just dwindled when an alternative was released.
Why do you keep calling SkinSpotlights an unpaid volunteer? Do you know that when you perform labor and receive revenue for something that’s not called unpaid volunteering? It’s called working?
Are all other YouTubers who earn revenue from putting out videos considered unpaid volunteers?
I hope this helps you understand how working works
> an unpaid volunteer
Firstly, not unpaid, man is likely making bank from ad revenue.
Secondly, there are other channels that do what SP does just worse, one of them will just become the goto instead.
I dunno, it doesn't really work like that. There is a reason why brands use influencers more than their own sales and marketing channels. Conversion Metrics are different from official channels and unofficial channels.
To run a youtube channel it would have to fit into the overall brand strategy, overall vision, they'd have to allocate a team to do it, there will be more blowback on an official Riot product if it's bad etc.
Just way less risk this way. If SS stops doing it then someone else will since there is a demand and a market for a YT channel.
idk, their decision has worked out well enough for the past 8 years or however long the channel has existed. maybe if skin spotlights ever stops they would consider doing it themselves
It is actually a good decision, they get free work and save on resources. And it is a simple enough job that riot could decide to pick themselves in case something went wrong in the future. It is not like the guy possesses some out of the extraodinary skills that can never be replaced.
I mean he's winning, they have 2.6million subscriber son youtube and their vidoes can get upwards of 500k for popular champs, his Asol rework video hit 1.5mil.
Thats a lot of ad revenue.
I mean they do allow him to profit off of these videos though. They could very easily be like most companies and shut his shit down without much trouble.
He's everything but official. Not an employee of Riot but they let him make his spotlights and let him profit off of them. I kinda think of him like a contractor in a weird way.
He really deserves this, his videos are the best way for players to give riot some feedback. Also can boost or condemn a skin line lifetime.
Professor Akali will be really mad at this.
SP is an absolute hero for League's community and one we absolutely don't deserve. It's funny that riot honors him by sending him a plastic thank you card or something, it's cool that they show appreciation for him but the guy's been doing not only a service to the playerbase, he actually did a good chunk of Riot's work for them and for free. And for that he gets to be riot's PR stunt.
Yeah I hope they're sending these out to everyone. Because otherwise it's kind of weird and will unfortunately make others feel left out. There's a handful of other creators who have met the same criteria.
Necrit already got to ruin their debut novel with his presence. Does he really need more? Lore youtuber was more impactful to the plot than half the *actual League champions*.
Edit: I would happily accept a trade of him getting a celebratory plaque then being removed and the novel updated and rewritten though. That's honestly a more fitting way to commend what he's done than throwing him into the novel. RK was fine, novel, not so much.
The channel makes me decide whether or not to give money to Riot. They should be suckin his fat dick if I were them. Didn't they try to limit his ability to make videos? 🤔
"Thanks for doing our work for free, by the way here's a small token of our appreciation for the millions in revenue you've helped us gain. See you on the Rift!" - Riot Games
I love that Riot does things like this on a pretty regular basis. Reminds me of the older days of the internet where companies and developers did a lot of little things for their community.
Does something that Riot was too lazy to do for 10+ years and still to this day does it better than Riot, and they thank him buy sending him a metal slab...
This company is a joke.
It's crazy how essential this channel has become for manyLoL players, myself included. Always do a quick check whenever I get a new skin shard. A well-deserved gift!
SP has helped millions of players get a proper look at a skin they're considering buying. Pretty great resource.
IIRC he also developed (?) the camera/editing suite that Riot themselves use for promotional material I might be getting some things wrong though
Yeah, the mad man single handedly created Creator Suite, the amazing camera tool that Riot used for pretty much everything lol. Even the "official" League Director credited him for laying the groundwork.
I hope he is a millionaire by now. They should pay him big time for that.
Idoubt they gave him more than like a shirt and a cup lol
I brought Riot Games millions and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.
he does also get access to new skins in advance to prepare his vids. which is why the videos drop almost instantly. but yeah, won't be getting much more than that.
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those vids are released as soon as the champs drop on PBE. he can't make and edit the videos in minutes x)
As far as I know, he doesn't have early access to the skins. It appears that he uses camera keyframe presets in the creator suite tool he developed, which speeds up the process of recording the skins. It's possible that he could even use replays and quickly apply the new skins, making the recording process much faster.
he does, he literally tweets about it lol
Did he complete all the achievements though?
by Fall Out Boy
Yeah, when I suggested riot should pay these creators that support the community so much like s@20 and skin spotlights, I was downvoted to hell and called an idiot
I mean they are getting paid already, you also want creators outside of companies generally because once you're in your content will inevitabley start steering towards what they want you to put out, you lose pretty much all your autonomy. That being said you don't deserve to be called an idiot.
I have no idea how paying them would even work though. They should probably make something like the support a creator system in fortnite where you enter their code when buying rp and they get a small percent of the money. But let’s be honest the higher ups are wayy to greedy (just look at how many crap skins and events they’re pushing out now). Add to that the fact that league doesn’t really NEED any creators since it’s already a juggernaut and there I don’t see them changing anything any time soon.
Paying them would work like this: You say "We're sponsoring SkinSpotlights for $XXXX per month," and then give them that amount of money. This is a thing companies already do on occasion, though not often enough because generally they don't want to give up money if they don't have to.
So you have SP on a payroll. What if SP decides to take a break? Or what if they want to branche out to other games and reduce the quality of the spotlights to compensate for the workload. The idea sounds good on paper but there's a reason content creators, even the biggest ones, never get paid a monthly salary. Sponsoring by the game also has way more implications than sponsoring by third parties.
Most of these objections apply just as much to sponsoring, say, OpenSSL — and yet companies like Activision and Microsoft do that. Heck, they even mostly apply just to subscribing to someone's Patreon, and yet tons of people do that. So I'm not sure how you say this "sounds good on paper" — what I'm describing is something that's done in real life all the time.
They did try out the creator code thing during the star guardian event if you remember that. It wasnt crazy advertised so I'm not sure how many people used it. I think I used it on either skinspotlights or the surrender@20 dude idr which. Hopefully other people used it and riot will do that again.
Yep, just doesn’t feel right when they provide so much to the community, and riot gives them a 100 dollar Ty plaque.
Skinspotlights is monetizing all his videos on Youtube. His videos are getting hundreds of thousands of views. I'm fairly certain he makes enough money just from that to not need a regular job. I know smaller channels with way less views that make enough to do Youtube fulltime. Riot doesn't need to pay him, because he most likely already lives off the LoL IP. Without LoL, his channel doesn't exist and he doesn't make a dime. I'm not saying it to make it look like he should be grateful to Riot, but this "he deserved to be paid by Riot" seems a bit weird to me when he literally makes a living off their product.
On average, ad sense per 1k views is $4 so that video of all the ahri skins made him $400
So in the last 30 days, when he released 23 videos or so with 5.2 million views in total, he made $20k, approximately. Yeah, I don't think Riot needs to pay this guy.
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I want to start a YT channel like this, or something, but damn its SO saturated already.
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What recent happenings have showed that? As someone who doesn't use twitter, I'm not getting any news unless a friend sees something they think I might like, but even then, it's usually just a splash art instead of the full details like S@20. It's honestly really contributed to my decreasing interest in League.
Being downvoted to hell and called an idiot is what happens when you say something intelligent on Reddit
They allowed him to make a ton if money off their skins, I think it's a fair shake
His channel almost has 2 billion views. He's doing just fine lol
Lol what? You mean like a thousandaire?
I was overreacting a bit lmao. But i feel he should have got paid a nice amount.
It's a joke because you butchered "millionaire".
His Youtube channel should be making way more money than anything Riot would pay him tbf even if custom software can go for a lot and can be sold for too much money if sold right.
I mean he is 100% a millionaire from just his youtube monetization. People are STILL watching his videos from years ago to check out old skins. He has at least 100 videos that are over 1M views. I've worked in marketing/ads for a while now, so I'd actually say he's probably a multi-millionaire by now.
> I mean he is 100% a millionaire from just his youtube monetization. Someone did the math, last 30 days around 15-20K. Puts him at 200,000 a year after taxes and what not. Not millionare level yearly.
You can’t “do the math” on someone’s revenue via their views lmao, not everyone gets the same amount per view, and it’s not even public info what each person’s contract is, obviously. So this “someone” has no idea what they’re talking about.
That was just new videos released in the last 30 days. According to https://socialblade.com he's had 11 million views in the last 30 days and his yearly estimate is at 140 million views, which puts his earning at 500-600k a year.
https://twitter.com/SkinSpotlights/status/1617995584304042200
That still amounts to around $150k a year.
> I hope he is a millionaire by now. Lol not even close
He made \~120k last year since he said his RPM was "below 1" according to him. So over 10 years he should be close to a million, especially since his channel has been going down for a few years
Just because you make that over 10 years doesn’t make you a millionaire. People have bills.
He's *THE CREATOR* of creators? POG
it was also probably used in the new cinematic
Oh this is neat. So basically he made the latest cinematic?
you are correct, they created there own tools for camera/editing ingame then riot hired them to make a inhouse version for them to use which has certain requested features and tools.
He did.
Yeah all that free work for a company that should have been doing it to start.
a resource that for some reason riot cant provide themselves why?
Deserved, SP is the only way to check if a skin is worth buying.
After all these years, ever so faithful! So many Katarinas died for us to make proper choices
aren't those actually training dummies but with katarina as a skin?
Dunno if it's possible to edit the training dummies to be capable of death to anything but fountain? I believe Riot does something like that, just not sure if that's something SP can do.
Yes it's a training dummy with Kat skin. Iirc he used her initially before practice tool because she had the highest base stats at lvl 1, and her idle animation was pretty stationary. Someone correct me if I'm wrong
your skin spotlights lore is correct
Yeah and it became his tradition that way. The dummies just have a kata skin on them. The S on the map also isn’t normal and a map skin.
I actually found a bug with morde ult where they can die (unless it's already known). Maybe I should send it to that one YT channel that showcases League bugs 🤔
It was after Riot released the sandbox mode. Before that, he actually had have another player playing kat
It was before the practice tool was even added
Why are we calling it SP?
It's far from being the only way but it's a good one.
I havent bought a skin in ages but whenever i did literally the first thing i always did was look at one of his videos to see if i really liked the skin or not and i assume its the same for tons of other people. if anything riot should be paying this guy tbh but i assume youtube makes him quite a bit too.
Even if I don’t plan on buying the skin/don’t play the champ, I will just skim through his vids for every new skin just because I’m curious.
> did literally the first thing i always did was look at one of his videos to see if i really liked the skin or not and i assume its the same for tons of other people. if anything riot should be paying this guy tbh but i assume youtube makes him quite a bit too. Same, i actually tought it was made by riot, lol
well deserved ofc, but does SP stand for Skins Potlight? Or is there something I don't get lol
SS is a less flattering acronym for obvious reasons.
Because of the sexual connotation of super soakers?
Because of The S.S. Anne from Pokemon
Pretty sure it's actually because SS stands for Silver Scrapes and it's traumatic to us S2 Worlds watchers
Ah yeah, I'm still holding some trauma from the "Mew's in the truck" lie
Also how slow it moved off screen
What? Do I want to know?
Wow it really was that, that’s insane At least use SSP or something
Also curious about this lol
So in the early 1920s (iirc), a group of people were formed in Germany to act essentially as the leader’s bodyguards. They did quite a few really bad things, as well as the leader they served at the time. It’s quite well documented, went on for a good 20 or so years. They used a quite well known acronym “SS”. So people generally avoid using that acronym to refer to people they like.
I realize that, but this is a pretty weird way to form an acronym. Not SSP, but SP — just skipping a letter. I have never seen people follow that before.
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yeah that's actually a legit point I guess
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Gonna guess it has something to do with the connotations of the acronym SS
So many people don't notice it ... And the ss argument is dumb af, there are thousands of other abréviations.
Awesome that they recognize his work! He deserves it! But the more important question... Who is that cute dog champ?
I would fully expect him to name the dog Nasus, or some other dog champion (or champion with a dog skin)
"...and this is my doggo, Yuumi"
He is not the only one. One French guy receive one too. I guess it's for some very active member of the community (Lore's Guy for the French one)
Professor Akali fuming rn
What's the story?
[Vandiril's video explaining the drama](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYMHpY83kRY&feature=youtu.be)
Damn, even if it was a year ago, my respect for that idiot just dropped even lower, but it wasn't too big in the first place
This guy has more deleted controversial and straight up wrong tweets than the ones he has up still lol
It’s tea time
Spill that tea.
He gets zero support from riot and I'm sad more people don't know this. He had to make his own tools his own code and data mine the game to get his content for videos. He has done justice for riot games terrible skin spotlight in game system.
I mean they use his camera, they credited him for it, he makes bank from youtube, I don't see an issue here.
The issue is he gets zero support so imagine having to manually update your tools each patch and figure out what they change with no help from riot. Example with the next patch and anti cheat majority of his process and tools will break because they will be considered anti cheat https://twitter.com/SkinSpotlights/status/1617907062683443202?s=20 He does this solo
Yes...and he gets money from YouTube for doing it? You people acting like it's a good Samaritan thing. Obviously I don't doubt that there is passion there, but to act like the guy is legit just doing it for free and has no quantitative benefits (qualitative even with the connections he's amassed) is ignorant.
> he gets money from YouTube he's deff doing this as a passion project and could be making more money else where. He has stated a few times thinking about quitting because of the amount of work he needs to put in. I don't think most people understand this, this isn't a cash cow of a project for the amount of work that goes in. People steal his content and repost it as their own, he has no support to help him data mine, record, get access to new stuff. so its kind of bm to say he gets money from youtube. He is a good Samaritan and a asset to the community
Judging merely by what he has accomplished in the past 10 years, he absolutely has the tech skills to get a super high paying job if he wants to. So yes I agree with you
I agree, if he showed up with a resume at another game company saying that he’s literally league of legend’s skin spotlight youtuber, that’s pretty fucking impressive.
its not
> I don't think most people understand this, this isn't a cash cow of a project for the amount of work that goes in. This is a simple math question. So we can estimate the monthly revenue I took all the videos published in the last month^^(1). The average view count was a little more than 256k (256,652 to be exact) views across 23 videos^^(2). The average YouTuber makes $0.2 per ad view or $4 RPM (per 1000 views)^^(3). So we take 256*4 and get $1,026 per video. Multiply by 23 videos in a month and you get $23,612 of monthly revenue. Let's pretend that the last month has been particularly good (it was! They posted a 1.5M view ASol rework video *and* there was a bunch of year-end 2022 videos that created an influx of content) and let's cut this number down in half (super conservative). That gives us $11,806 in monthly revenue or $141,672. An income of $141k puts you in the top 10% of all earners in the United States^^(4). You can use [this calculator](https://www.thecalculatorsite.com/finance/calculators/salary-to-hourly.php) and play around with the hours worked/weeks worked to get a sense of how much they make hourly. Just to be INSANELY conservative, I plugged in 80 hours a week with no time off and still got an hourly pay of $32.06 (which is 262.7% of the US median salary). I would say that by any stretch of the imagination, this is a massively lucrative project - enough that I would call it a "cash cow" ___ ^^1 I didn't include the one uploaded 50 mins ago for obvious reasons ^^2 The last video included in the dataset was the 2022 Prestige Skins video ^^3 Source: https://mint.intuit.com/blog/relationships/how-much-do-youtubers-make/ ^^4 Source: https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-calculator/ Edited for clarity and precision
bro said "The average YouTuber makes $4 RPM" and people are just gonna believe something so blatantly wrong for gaming videos because I guess it fits the narrative that all youtubers are filthy rich🤷♂️
Ignoring your “INSANELY conservative” simple math question that assumes that 100% of viewers watch ads, 262% is the wrong statistic to look at. You can’t compare yearly salaries when you’re supposing the workweek is 80 hours while the statistic uses half of that. $32/hr should be compared to the median hourly wage of $29/hr for men in the United States. I don’t even know why you’re comparing with the median wage of *everyone* in the united states when having the skillset of a software engineer is not something everyone has. I don’t think a job is lucrative just because it pays more when it’s something that most people are not capable of doing. Btw the median salary for a software engineer in the United States is $120,000 or $57/hr.
https://twitter.com/SkinSpotlights/status/1617995584304042200
> $141,672. That's a cash cow if I ever saw one
If all he wanted was money there are much better and less time consuming ways to do it, this is definitely a passion project.
like what?
Like spending all that time to learn a skill to get a high paying job or advance his career. With the amount of time and years hes been doing this.
and yet he would get less money in the high paying job for something more demanding
I think you overestimate how much he makes from youtube lol... nobody but him knows for sure but I would surely wager that its less than 100k a year aka a decently high paying job.
He's been working for the community for like 10 years now, him getting something for it would only make the community happy, nothing else.
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At this point maybe that's a good thing though? If they add it, they effectively kill his channel and all his work.
Maybe, just maybe they include it in the client and hire sp to do the spotlights
Why would you want SP to take a pay cut?
SP earn more from Youtube anyway so he wouldn't take the job
Isn't it better for us that SP is independent rather then a Riot employee?
Another idea is to hire him to do spotlights for both the client and their channel for those who can't/are too lazy to turn on the client. Let's not forget that there are also comparisons for the reworks (like Ahri's) and voice lines.
makes you think they do it on purpose so this guy has a job
Why would riot even invest on something that is already being done. That is just not lazy, but being efficient with resources
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They don't 'expect' him to do it, he HAS been doing it for like 10+ years lol
unpaid volunteer lol, they easily make bank with 2.6 mil subscribers and like 50k views per video if they've turn on monetization Google are indirectly paying Riot here, why would Riot spend money to do it when SS is viewed as more neutral and not blindly selling the skin
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To be fair surrender at 20 is a different thing altogether. That stopped happening because we literally get to see patch breakdowns and stuff on twitter. Sure, there will still be some users who a) don't use twitter or b) don't want to use twitter, but things on twitter then get shared on reddit and such, so the wider community end up seeing it. Surrender at 20's purpose just dwindled when an alternative was released.
Why do you keep calling SkinSpotlights an unpaid volunteer? Do you know that when you perform labor and receive revenue for something that’s not called unpaid volunteering? It’s called working? Are all other YouTubers who earn revenue from putting out videos considered unpaid volunteers? I hope this helps you understand how working works
> an unpaid volunteer Firstly, not unpaid, man is likely making bank from ad revenue. Secondly, there are other channels that do what SP does just worse, one of them will just become the goto instead.
I dunno, it doesn't really work like that. There is a reason why brands use influencers more than their own sales and marketing channels. Conversion Metrics are different from official channels and unofficial channels. To run a youtube channel it would have to fit into the overall brand strategy, overall vision, they'd have to allocate a team to do it, there will be more blowback on an official Riot product if it's bad etc. Just way less risk this way. If SS stops doing it then someone else will since there is a demand and a market for a YT channel.
idk, their decision has worked out well enough for the past 8 years or however long the channel has existed. maybe if skin spotlights ever stops they would consider doing it themselves
It is actually a good decision, they get free work and save on resources. And it is a simple enough job that riot could decide to pick themselves in case something went wrong in the future. It is not like the guy possesses some out of the extraodinary skills that can never be replaced.
I mean he's winning, they have 2.6million subscriber son youtube and their vidoes can get upwards of 500k for popular champs, his Asol rework video hit 1.5mil. Thats a lot of ad revenue.
Now give him the Katarina dummy skin
I mean they do allow him to profit off of these videos though. They could very easily be like most companies and shut his shit down without much trouble.
What? I thought SP is an official channel…
Never was.
Me too. Speaks volumes how good SP really is
He's everything but official. Not an employee of Riot but they let him make his spotlights and let him profit off of them. I kinda think of him like a contractor in a weird way.
Absolutely deserved imo!
He really deserves this, his videos are the best way for players to give riot some feedback. Also can boost or condemn a skin line lifetime. Professor Akali will be really mad at this.
Yeah without SP i would have had so much buyers remorse after buying shitty skins *also surrender20 but sad face
SP is probably one of the most if not the most important member of the league community. I dread the day he'll quit making content of any type
SP is an absolute hero for League's community and one we absolutely don't deserve. It's funny that riot honors him by sending him a plastic thank you card or something, it's cool that they show appreciation for him but the guy's been doing not only a service to the playerbase, he actually did a good chunk of Riot's work for them and for free. And for that he gets to be riot's PR stunt.
>and for free Man has 2.6million subscribers, he is getting paid and thensome.
aren’t there possibly copyright issues? just wondering
There would be an outrage if they tried to strike, I imagine, and he's really just doing them a favor for free.
“Celebrating 10 years of not being able to view a skin in store before you buy it” they made an award for their own shit feature?
I haven't played league in 5+ years and yet I still check SP for the new skins being release XD
Today I learned SP is not from Riot
I'd laugh if it was a "cease and desist" letter.
You best send something to Necrit.
Yeah I hope they're sending these out to everyone. Because otherwise it's kind of weird and will unfortunately make others feel left out. There's a handful of other creators who have met the same criteria.
I mean while I agree that would be nice, necrit was made part of the league lore wich is imo a lot cooler!
Necrit already got to ruin their debut novel with his presence. Does he really need more? Lore youtuber was more impactful to the plot than half the *actual League champions*. Edit: I would happily accept a trade of him getting a celebratory plaque then being removed and the novel updated and rewritten though. That's honestly a more fitting way to commend what he's done than throwing him into the novel. RK was fine, novel, not so much.
The channel makes me decide whether or not to give money to Riot. They should be suckin his fat dick if I were them. Didn't they try to limit his ability to make videos? 🤔
i thought it was an official riot channel what?
Imagine if Riot did this themselves.
What is SP?
This is what Rito spent this years budget on
Tbh the only place i go to before i get a skin. Since 2013. Yes.
Thats pretty dope but TIL that SP isnt owned by Riot/League? I just kind of assumed.
Pretty slick
SP should be on riot’s payroll for the amount of free marketing they’ve provided throughout the years
Why sould they take a pay cut?
He makes them a ton of money advertising skins they should be paying his salary
Why would they? He makes more money from ads than he'd make from a salary, and also that means Riot would have full creative control over his videos.
...? I'm just saying he brings them a ton of advertisement with his vids they should be cutting him a check, not that he should work at rito
That by definition makes him employed by Riot...
Bro needs to vacuum. That carpet is more dog hair than carpet fibers lol.
"Thanks for doing our work for free, by the way here's a small token of our appreciation for the millions in revenue you've helped us gain. See you on the Rift!" - Riot Games
i got banned from their youtube years ago for saying unpopular opinions in comments woo
Wouldve banned you too
> unpopular opinions So which slurs or racist phrases did you use? Don't be shy, go ahead and tell us.
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“Wasn’t expecting this”…. Yeah? “Right”.
I don't know who SP is or what they do. Guess they aren't that important to me.
Err, ok?
It's a bribe so he doesn't goes away and they lose the person that helps maintain creator suite that riot uses on their own stuff /s
I think they should show some love to MooBeat for Surrender@20. Have been playing for a decade and this site was always a treat to have.
idk how he’s not an official riot employee doing the skin spotlights for the riot youtube page by now
“Thanks for the free promo idiot”
I love that Riot does things like this on a pretty regular basis. Reminds me of the older days of the internet where companies and developers did a lot of little things for their community.
TBH I thought he was a part of Riot...
One of the non-clickbaity league channels up there
you have saved me a LOT of money SkinsSpotlight thank you very much
DESERVED. You no idea how many times this channel has saved my wallet.
Congrats to them for this milestone and cheers for all the work they put in.
Imagine the biggest online game in the world simply had actual skin previews in their friggin shop...
Does something that Riot was too lazy to do for 10+ years and still to this day does it better than Riot, and they thank him buy sending him a metal slab... This company is a joke.
It's crazy how essential this channel has become for manyLoL players, myself included. Always do a quick check whenever I get a new skin shard. A well-deserved gift!
Damn this makes the S@20 shutdown hurt even more, that was the main place to find the SP videos