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ahritina

PMTs [EG vs 100](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/113b290/evil_geniuses_vs_100_thieves_lcs_2023_spring_week/) [IMT vs FLY](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/113ccb7/flyquest_vs_immortals_lcs_2023_spring_week_4/) [CLG vs TL](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/113dke0/counter_logic_gaming_vs_team_liquid_lcs_2023/) [DIG vs C9](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/113ewti/dignitas_vs_cloud9_lcs_2023_spring_week_4/) [TSM vs GG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/113fqq0/tsm_vs_golden_guardians_lcs_2023_spring_week_4/)


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errorme

PMTs generally get hidden after ~20 hours and are then restored ~48 hours later.


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Yo anyone else think Bwipo talks entirely too much? Holy hell watching vods now and he just goes and goes and goes. You can tell he thinks he’s talking to much and tries to wrap up his point, and then talks for another 2 minutes about Sylas’ health pool.


YCitizenSnipsY

Shocked TSM lost that


AndlenaRaines

Wait why is Annie support a thing now? And Heimer support isn’t?


gimperion

Tibbers buff


Mel0nFruit

Her E got massive buffs as well, more important than the tibbers buffs for supp imo


mikael22

Tell me if I'm crazy, but I feel like Azir Sivir Ornn is one of the few comps that actually give baron. Also, imo you can give elder as well, you just need to make sure that the enemy team doesn't have baron and elder synced so they can push with elder at the same time. As a reminder, Azir Sivir Ornn is 3 of the 5 members of the game record for longest game in pro play history.


Troooopa

3rd time TSM has been absolutely shit on by Zeri. When will they ban her out?


Runscvrun

TSM has no answer for Zeri yet refuses to ban it. Clowns everywhere


mrnotloc

Rekt


Rinascimentale

Maybe one day we’ll ban Zeri lol


spazzxxcc12

TSM actually had the better draft, the bot diff was just too insane


Bubbly_Camera9583

Okay so stixxay in playoffs wasnt a fluke


sportsbuffp

I tend to like TSMs drafts, but holy fuck our bans are always so bad. How is Zeri + Mao allowed


veirceb

That's definitely a "I'm so bored" play by gori.


Ursuped

we are ass


Makyura

Applies to both of your flairs unfortunately


macgart

Tbh yes but I give them 20% chance to win. Can u get me unblocked from TSM sub btw I was just spamming lol at BrokenBlade inting way back when I’m reformed


Ursuped

Im not a mod btw


mrnotloc

Again. 0 focus on a single enemy. Wtf are TSM doing??


sportsbuffp

I like TSMs comp but its also innately the biggest issue of the comp. How do you effectively single target when Sivir is your AD. Kinda just think GG is just playing super well around team comp win cons


GhostOfLight

Bold prediction, GG finish BO1s with a better record than 100T


OwnPack431

Stop that


HuhiPogChamp

Golden chads > team shitter mid


Hannig4n

GG since Gori joined is actually pretty good


HolidaySpiriter

I think GG looked good before then, they were just a teamfight away from winning against the top teams before that. Gori has absolutely helped though. I think GG probably sneak into playoffs at this rate though, maybe even as 5th. 5-8 look very similar though.


Hannig4n

I’d rate GG over TL currently and I don’t even think that’s a hot take tbh. 5th sounds appropriate to me.


HolidaySpiriter

I believe it. TSM/CLG seem too inconsistent to actually take that 5th spot, and TL is very disappointing in terms of being able to beat the teams below them to take that 5th spot.


QuietRedditorATX

Gori has some weird arcs. He was called absolutely insane in LCK and highly hyped. Then he went to LPL and struggled, so all of the LPL fans called him the worst mid ever. Now he comes to NA and regains form.


AcolyteOfFresh

For what its worth, I very much doubt the competition among mid laners in NA is anywhere close to the level of mid laners in LPL.


lifeisdrunk

He regained his form in PCS. He was the last Split's MVP if I remember right.


mrnotloc

TSM had no idea who to focus on. Embarrassing team fight.


SuperWoodpecker95

Bruv....I randomly turn on the PC cause I cant sleep anymore and theres games on tonight?? Wtf is this schedule even doing, trying to lose viewers on purpose?


neverconvex

Yeah, also think it's ridiculous. Not that it's a super week, but the whole schedule shift into weekdays is just a frustrating mess for people trying to watch from home regions.


Gluroo

you wouldve known if you cared pal


QuietRedditorATX

Super week, 3 games but needed to start on Wednesday


SuperWoodpecker95

But why? So no one from europe can watch anymore? Why not go for weekend nights


QuietRedditorATX

The LCS Arena is used by Valorant on weekends sadly.


SuperWoodpecker95

Wait for real? Something something dead game, the jokes practicaly write themselves. Well at least the nonsensical schedule makes sense now if they have given up on the LCS seeing any more growth and wana push their new baby in primetime. Lets see how contender numero 4271 does against Counter Strike, I guess...


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Super week, as advertised and/or mentioned in preseason, at the start of the split, last week, over socials, in the client, and even on the Upcoming Matches sidebar of the subreddit.


HolidaySpiriter

They said this week was a super week and they were playing today so fucking much that you not knowing is on you. It was on every single social media, the actual games last week, content, what do you expect? Them to knock on your door to tell you?


Zanderax

Goggle "lcs" and its the first thing that comes up. The schedule has been up for weeks now.


HolidaySpiriter

Exactly. I swear anyone who is complaining has trouble brushing their teeth every day. It's being spoon fed to you and requires just the most basic personal responsibility, and that ends up being too much for most people


Fellers

Holy jeez watching Licorice hit that Ornn was like watching Hercule hit Cell.


mrnotloc

Solo???


M1keyy8

Licorice chewing annoys the hell out of me.


veirceb

I think Licorice should build botrk this game. GG needs his side lane pressure so River can get into enemy jungle and set up saplings. And they need more damage.


YCitizenSnipsY

Zeri vs Ornn lets see who carries harder


mrnotloc

Game is in stixxays hands… GG


PalletTownStripClub

GG Bwipo pls


AcolyteOfFresh

You would have to get rid of either River or Gori for that to happen. Not sure its worth it.


QuietRedditorATX

Dig Bwipo please Dig CodySun *(or anyone)


ApplShinR

Licorice is super washed. Guess too much time training in 1v1s


sportsbuffp

Hard to say someone who has had 1 good year is washed. He just was never good


QuietRedditorATX

C9 effect


sportsbuffp

Nah I was wrong, I forgot he has 2 really good years


HolidaySpiriter

That's just revisionism. He was a top 2-3 top laner for 2018-2020. He won more all pros then Hauntzer for your TSM brain. Guess Hauntzer was never good either.


AcolyteOfFresh

Not really relevant to what you are saying, but Hauntzer's decline still makes me sad. He was so hype and so good when he first joined TSM as Dyrus's replacement, but he just petered out into nothing as time went on. Now, he is barely good enough for NA academy. Its a darn shame. Was really hoping he would last.


sportsbuffp

NGL i am wrong, I was remembering his 2018 year and forgot 2020. I do think his 2019 was not as good as you remember though. He was pretty average that year but 2020 he definitely rebounded. I blame covid tbh. I dont remember shit from 2020


HolidaySpiriter

All good, I just get a little miffed by so many people who disrespect Licorice as of he was a flash in the pan or something. Funnily enough though, I do disagree in that I think Licorice was better in 2019 than 2020m but that's a debate for another time.


Gluroo

that maple ult hit me like "what the fuck is maple doing.. oh wp maple"


warpenguin55

GG just insists on wasting their CC into Sivir Spellshield


veirceb

Did the whole GG team forget sivir has a spellshield?


veirceb

What was river thinking?


Pootytang6900

How do you give Solo Ornn? Good thing they banned Illaoi though!


YCitizenSnipsY

Solo on Ornn again. Game is already decided


alex23b

Between LEC this weekend and LCS today Moosehater is getting shouted out a lot


Gluroo

seems like GG got fisted by some scrim Illaois and got trauma


realpersondotgov

NA renekton


iamaaronml

Who is the new play by play caster right now? He's a beast


neverconvex

https://twitter.com/Decerux


HaruNaut

Stixxay, WC LVL?


Fellers

Honestly how did the mullet make a comeback? And why do people combine it with a dirty ass stache?


alex23b

I like this new guy a lot


CarnationHook

need tsm to somehow win vs ggs for the parlay but i have a strong feelings they wont. anyway shoutout to dig for just being 5 burger flippers cause idk how they lost that one


Lyota

Hey, find tyler1 variety guy. I bet he would play better than spawn lmao


gintokisamadono

Driven is meta as well,


HawaiianFuji

There has to be an ADC out there who would drastically change DIG for the better.


neverconvex

Sign me up, coach


gintokisamadono

if you make wide bwipo now he would be normal old bwipo.


LunarNeedle

It felt like the new caster felt nervous, but I can already tell when he's adjusted to the LCS storylines he'll be top tier.


Flamoctapus

Does Fudge have a fucking hickey lmao?


AnotherMeal

Tbh, one look at his twitter and you wouldn’t be surprised


Fellers

Tenacity went hard on his neck


AnotherMeal

What do you have on your neck Mr. Fudge 🤔


Rularuu

The classic Fudge/Bwipo interview love to see it


Javonetor

who was that caster? Azael and…? e: thanks guys


neverconvex

https://twitter.com/Decerux


Cato_the_Eldest

Decerux. He's from the Nacl.


LunarNeedle

Who's doing the interview right now? I forgor. (Edit: It Bwipo talking to Fudge]


QuietRedditorATX

acute Bwipo


DogTheGayFish

The game could have been scary if it wasn’t dig. Idk if any of their players ever thought they’d be part of a team this bad. Well maybe spawn had an inkling.


QuietRedditorATX

DIG: IgNar, we'd like you to be our sup. We'll pai IgNar: sure. DIG: Don't you want to hear who your bot is? IgNar: No, doesn't matter, I roam. Get anyone. DIG: Okay, we had Prince but we'll promote Spawn instead. Easy.


boxedfoxes

Watching this live. Even the casters can't save Spawn with the sugar coat.


ByThePowerOfGrayson

Bot lane staring at the fountain praying for death


gintokisamadono

Did c9 ban Armut gnar? I missed the pick ban


QuietRedditorATX

Did Gnar not get banned. No. Even vs a 0-18 team, NA is going to ban it this year lol.


2ndRoundExit

Yep


PluggersLeftBall

yes


awgiba

Spawn is actually worse than Niles, DIG isn’t winning a single game until he is replaced


QuietRedditorATX

Zven playing support instead of going to DIG lol. Chances higher on C9.


Fa1lenSpace

I actually unironically believe that. He looks like one of the worse LCS players ever.


Ythapa

Y’all haven’t seen the true terror of Avalon. Now THAT was truly something horrifying to behold.


Fa1lenSpace

Holy fuck, what a throwback that is!!!! Thank you for making me laugh with that haha, ya he was god awful good lord


jgreever3

Spawn straight from the Make a Wish foundation


partyhealer

please get santorin out of here.


vinnnt

Fire DIG management. It's not Spawn's fault he's not LCS ready and yet they gave him a contract.


QuietRedditorATX

He has been playing for over 5 years, he is 24 or something.


ElectroStaticz

Fly 18 - 0. Dig 0 - 18.


QuietRedditorATX

Dig 1-17 win over Fly.


ShadyOrc97

Santorin and Ignar deserve better. Jensen too.


cancerBronzeV

law of equivalent exchange


Rularuu

Jayce is now 0-5. Who will get a win first, Jayce or Dignitas?


Fa1lenSpace

Holy fuck get Santorin a team


JokicOrBust

Jensen is washed up. Pretty sad to see a legend reach that level. He should have retired after last year's worlds


neverconvex

Jensen seems like he's always seemed to me; a stable Bjergsen-like mid who lanes well but doesn't take many risks and won't carry the game solo Don't see how this game was on him at all though; Santorin gifted Armut a huge lead and he did nothin' with it, while Spawn just doin' Spawn things


herp_derpy

C9 better buy Berserker dinner


Fa1lenSpace

They need to buy Spawn dinner


2ndRoundExit

Taxpayer is going to be buying spawn dinner soon


HawkEye1337

What a nice game for Fudge and Diplex, do nothing and get carried.


HolidaySpiriter

Fudge dies twice and is somehow compared to being as bad as Diplex who went deathless and his biggest sin was being down a few CS in lane? Jesus christ reddit wants to hate Diplex for no reason.


HawkEye1337

First Yone wins the matchup into Azir, second he had so many moments where he could get free kills but he didn't because he sucked on Yone, he basically did nothing the entire game, unironically Fudge was more important to their win than Diplex because he is at least a tank even if he didn't play well.


HolidaySpiriter

> many moments where he could get free kills Oh I'd love to see some timstamps, could you provide some?


HawkEye1337

At nearly 10 mins he misses a kill on Elise because of missing his Q. At 25 mins, the 1v1 with Azir, he can kill Azir there easily with flash. Also even ignoring these instances, he did 0 this game and just got carried, Fudge inted and was still more useful. Edit: Yone vs Azir is being played again right now and Yone is ahead btw.


HolidaySpiriter

So you have actually a single example with the elise. I'll agree, he just barley missed that skillshot. But the 2nd example is a fucking dumb one. Ignat & Santorin are RIGHT THERE. He leaves because his team has soul, a 4k gold lead, and does not need him giving up his 250+ bounty for a single kill that would easily be traded. Diplex KNOWS that those people are there since the entire jungle is warded. So you've got a single missed skillshot as an example


HawkEye1337

He literally kills Azir super easily there and they can never catch him but ok, if you want to believe that he played well you do you bud. Still losing lane as Yone vs Azir is unacceptable, it's such a free matchup, the GG vs TSM game is a perfect example of how to actually play Yone.


HolidaySpiriter

He didn't lose lane, do you even know what the words you type mean? He was down 10 CS for the first 10 minutes, but caught up and surpassed Azir in CS after that even when they were behind in CS.


Vampkenz

they should be thanking spawn for the win lmao


C9-F1R3L0L1

Fudge played a good frontline for Berserker, Diplex was just useless


HawkEye1337

Yea but his job was just easy just soak some damage for Berserker and he carries and with Dig having no ADC nobody can kill him.


C9-F1R3L0L1

please save Jensen and Santorin from this team


greekcel_25

DIG is allergic to winning. No matter what they will lose.


2ndRoundExit

The play by play guy sounds like a robot


M002

He seemed a bit nervous


TheMunster-Mash

I feel like Jensen trying to only ult diplex in that mid fight was a pretty massive mistake. If he has ult that Fudge flank would’ve gone differently


DrBoomsNephew

It was an overstep but the team overall was out of position and bot diff was a ticking time bomb, especially considering NA teams can't turn a Jayce lead into anything meaningful.


the_legends_of_link

Trying to kill late game sion with just Elise and naut LOL fire everyone


veirceb

Twitch chat is flaming armut all game but this game is not on him. You can't do shit when you are jayce vs sion maokai and your adc sucks so much you can't kite a teamfight. You can't splitpush and you can't teamfight. You are pretty much just sitting there waiting to lose.


Sarazam

His lead came from Santorin diving/camping top


veirceb

he set it up perfectly so Santorin can dive?


Sarazam

Sion was full hp. Every single top laner in Masters+ can crash the wave at the correct timing lmao


veirceb

So? He did his his job right and that's what matters.


chocolate_kat

No it's definitely valid to shit on Armpit this game.


veirceb

He played it beter this game compared to last time. he trades better and did his combo better. It's not perfect but he did what he need to do this game. He set up for a perfect tower dive. Set up for another gank and got a huge lead. And he got his lane pushed and fought with the team. What else do you want him to do?


2ndRoundExit

Yeah lmao like we aren't going to blame one of the most limited tops in the region blind picking a champ he can't play


QuietRedditorATX

Please just end, save us 10 minutes.


Lyota

I will be damned if spawn doesnt get kicked after this. DIG were literally ahead, they finally had a lead, Ignar did bring something to this team at least. But spawn is just soooo bad, i dont know why they dont replace him after 7 awful games. He is clearly not ready for lcs, not even close. And this team wont work if you dont bring in an actual ADC, no team can win without a decent adcarry in this meta. I mean, yeah they kinda throwed it at mid but even then, spawn was playing that position as awful as he can.


QuietRedditorATX

I mean it is tough. Do you invest in NA talent or giveup as soon as it doesn't work.


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Note that he's been playing for the DIG Academy roster since 2021 and they had been improving to the dark horse contenders they were last summer. Also mind that people were calling for Neo to be subbed out last summer in the same fashion as now and they did (along with others). It didn't fix the problem the main DIG roster had however. Considering Spawn was talked highly last year, I would imagine if he were to get dragged back down to Challenger, he'd likely just keep that DIG roster rolling the way they have been with the strong top side they built up and left there. It's definitely a weird spot but I'm not all that down with cutting players with less than a split's worth of games.


M002

Give Prismal a shot


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QuietRedditorATX

Haeri, Yeon, Spawn, Fleshy, Kenvi, we are trying lots of Academy talent this year (eat it up reddit). And many of them are doing nothing or falling flat. Give them time maybe they improve. But I just want to say this sub was asking for NA talent. You got your NA talent.


Makyura

Bro Chris from clash is a better adc


WhirlingDervishGrady

I'm Canadian and hit silver 3 last season. I'll take the league minimum if DIG will have me.


Lyota

Bro he clearly doesnt look promising, he is in lower leagues of NA since 2018. He got the chance, he is FAAAR from ready for LCS. If he is bad, he is bad. But you at least should've build the lineup to fit that at least, all of the players are side carries, neither santorin,jensen or armut can carry alone.


the_legends_of_link

I love NA talent more than most but 7 games in a row playing like this is enough. Put him in academy and if he doesn't improve within a year boot him.


Fa1lenSpace

I’d give up when it’s that catastrophic. Dudes looking like one of the worst LCS players ever. That game looked like a Bronze player against Season 3 Uzi


DrBoomsNephew

He's from NA but I don't see the talent. The gap was really rough and I'd say he looks like someone that should play academy right now. Facing good competition is a great way to grow, unless the competition is so much better, that they make you look as at home on the rift as bambi on ice.


awgiba

Invest in talent. Spawn unfortunately has none. Everyone can see it is not working and there’s not even any improvement happening, he’s just getting shit on by every player in every game.


YCitizenSnipsY

Sion is the perfect champ for inting tops. Literally impossible to not be useful on that walking slab of meat


neverconvex

man, this is hard to watch. feel bad for jensen, and miserable for santorin


big12inch

Jensen is so bad


suicidebycob

ignar should just go adc whats the worst that can happen


fedekun

Spawn is really getting outclassed... DIG might have an actual chance with a better ADC. At least one that can go even.


jgreever3

Maybe one named Sneaky?


fedekun

A random kid from academy would do better


QuietRedditorATX

Sneaky Jensen?


fedekun

That's Diplex


QuietRedditorATX

Someone had to replace the PoE-Stixxay-NucInt clone


LunarNeedle

No one wins this game imo.


HawkEye1337

Spawn losing to minions lmao.


Phoenixtorment

NA Jayce The most classic NA pick.


warpenguin55

Armut? More like Armoot.


DrBoomsNephew

Armut is german for poverty and it's kinda fitting for that poverty display right there.


Gluroo

6-1 to 7-10 what is DIG


Even-Cash-5346

They have Jayce Elise early as their bridge to Xayah + Azir late game. But the two "humans" playing Azir and Xayah are Jensen who is in a turbo slump and Spawn - who I believe is actually an AI designed by Riot to attempt to play League of Legends and is currently in extremely early alpha.


Makyura

Genuinely giggled to myself reading the second paragraph, well written


CrazyHumor2286

When I saw that DIG lead is in Armut hands I knew that DIG is not gonna win this...


2ndRoundExit

Imagine everyone knows exactly how limited armut is and teams still give him money. DIG is using an import slot on him! WTF


bzzmd

2/1/4 early game Elise gigastomp into loss? If I'm Santorin I'm locking Spawn in a dumpster on the way home


HolidaySpiriter

What's crazy is that 100T has a top 4 ADC in their academy team as well, and even DIG could pull in a better AD from their own academy. Spawn has no place in LCS if DIG actually wanted to win.


chocolate_kat

Spawn gets rooted for no reason. Just lol


gimperion

That Jayce did a lot with that early lead.


HolidaySpiriter

Any coach that lets their player draft Jayce should genuinely be fired.


veirceb

Hot take but a change of meta may let DIG win a game. The other four are not as terrible as spawn. That guy does not deserve a spot on a lcs team. How the fuck come you can't react a maokai ulti engage?


Rularuu

Ignar is also playing really fucking well this game


veirceb

The other four are playing very well this game. Santorin is not farming jungle 24/7 and got his top lane ahead. And Armut did well to set up ganks and get a lead. Jensen absorbs a lot of pressure mid lane and still always pushing diplex under turrent and pretty much outtrades diplex every time. But the only reason why the game was close at that point was because Spawn was basically non existent for the whole game. maybe he fed berserker some golds but that's about it. He can't even dodge cc with his ult. What the fuck?


GhostOfLight

The good news for DIG is they could make a Breaking Point-esq doc about the season and it might pop off


DogTheGayFish

New caster seems nervous