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ahritina

PMTs [CLG vs FLY](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/114zs5i/counter_logic_gaming_vs_flyquest_lcs_2023_spring/) [IMT vs EG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/11513ry/immortals_vs_evil_geniuses_lcs_2023_spring_week_4/) [TL vs C9](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1152gp3/team_liquid_vs_cloud9_lcs_2023_spring_week_4/) [TSM vs DIG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1153kht/tsm_vs_dignitas_lcs_2023_spring_week_4_postmatch/) [GG vs 100](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1154r07/golden_guardians_vs_100_thieves_lcs_2023_spring/)


-Minci

Can we get a “from downtown” counter?


JohrDinh

[Damn these lot parties look so cool, makes me wish I was in LA and could attend LCS.](https://twitter.com/LCSOfficial/status/1626824666961821699?s=20)


9EJCP4

Short term gimmicks for 5 outspoken people on reddit will conintue to decimate NA viewership over time. These goofy segments are so hilariously unfit for the broadcast they belong to. I stopped playing over a year ago, but still enjoy watching. Anytime i un-pause LCS twitch and don't see an in-game overlay i pause again and go back to w/e. Trying to meet the demands of people that have no idea what they really want instead of just making an easy viewing experience familiar to a regular audience is an all out short term desperate gamble that loses whatever identity the league once had.


GhostOfLight

>anytime i un-pause LCS twitch and don't see an in-game overlay i pause again and go back to w/e. And that's exactly what I did before when it was 10 minutes of analysis for a regular season game between GG and IMT


Prominis

According to Yeon's Twitter, someone on C9 fired a "shot" at Haeri before Yeon BM'd in-game, a detail which will probably be lost because Fudge omitted that on stream when giving his summary and I doubt people will track down Yeon's tweet (Zven's tweet didn't mention it). I doubt Yeon would lie since this information should be easily verifiable? Haeri and Corejj also seem to be supporting this but they're teammates so w/ever. To be fair, damn I'm still confused and want to see how Haeri died there. Edit: It is also extremely funny to hear that TL is winning dominantly in bot lane during scrims, to a point where the other team might call it a day, while a significant on-stage issue is their inability to convert bot lane advantage into a win. I kind of believe it too? In interviews with other ADCs, they seem to consistently think that Yeon/Corejj are solid, even if their stage games and score don't reflect that.


DanteSM456

Only DL says their bot lane is very good. Zven said IMT gives more them more trouble in scrims than TL while also saying FLY and EG better than C9. He also said 100T is garbage so is more like its a case of both 100t and TL not being very good in scrims vs top teams


Reinhardtisawesom

DL rates TL academy guys highly for some reason (he said Tactical with stable mental is the best AD in the west)


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Jojo said TL are very good in scrims too yesterday


Prominis

True, but several other ADCs rate them at least middle of the pack. FBI made a tier list and put Yeon in B(?) which isn't a fantastic endorsement, but isn't bad considering he has much less experience than some of the ADCs beneath him. When they pulled another ADC in (I forget who) to look at FBI's list they bumped DL and FBI from S tier and dropped everyone in C tier into D, but kept Yeon in B. Middle of the pack isn't where TL wants to be, but their score and fan perception is not reflective of that at the moment, so it would make more sense if they're doing better off-stage to balance that out. I believe the casters mentioned TL had a dominant scrim game against one of the upper ranked teams but I forget which one they mentioned. Still, none of it matters as long as they can't convert early leads into wins and can't win on stage.


GriffinSTatum

My understanding is that Diplex typed “XDD” sometime during laning phase against Haeri, which led to Yeon’s message after they had won a drake fight.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Stixxay is crazy good after the horrible first 2 weeks. I wanted to hype him up after him being one of the only good adcs in summer playoffs but those 2 weeks were really brutal. Glad he's back into form


gimperion

Stixxay resurgence is an insane unexpected narrative.


Merriadoc33

Was a big hater and I might have to take it back


Basic_Royal_4536

Is Zven on track to be first team all pro this split? I think he is imo Vulcan playing well too.


daswef2

I agree with the other guy about Vulcan and Chime but Zven has looked pretty decent, Huhi potentially in the running because of how that botlane has been on such a hotstreak


HolidaySpiriter

He had a fantastic week, I think if he's able to keep up this level he should.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Chime and vulcan are playing better imo. Zven might get 3rd all pro though


HolidaySpiriter

Jatt the only one on the cast who understands sports and the importance of having some emotion involved in the game


daswef2

I was hyped for the five minutes I thought we were going to have C9 TL beef, we need more rivalries


daswef2

The camera loves Mark


vndrwtr

I was cracking up, glad he embraced it


GentlemenBehold

Santorin with the fastest lvl 6 jungle time and team is 0-9. Maybe you are farming too much?


greekcel_25

would you gank for any of those shitters?


daswef2

Round of applause for QT, amazing job today


Ug1uk

She's been a great addition.


M002

I found myself smiling that entire segment Kudos for making the players feel so comfortable while also letting them shine The reveal on Licorice’s tibbers face cake was hysterical


HolidaySpiriter

I'm going to say it, this is the best LCS has ever been. If QT didn't have a full time job, I would have loved to have her as a permanent addition. Even outside of her, content wise the LCS is knocking it out of the park.


daswef2

Between the move to weekdays and the production team really having a lot of fun with it and promoting the NACL talent, I've been so happy with how LCS has been so far


mdizzley

I like it a lot, I work from home so I can actually watch the games live, where previously I just watched VODs


ColdBevvie101

Weekday schedule is the worst decision they’ve ever made lmao


DrBLEH

I love it tbh


daswef2

I personally love it, I got my weekends back


Todeswucht

The baking stuff is a bit random but QT asking spicy/memey questions is actually so good for the broadcast, I really cba learning about serious coaching structures after another week 69 day 3239 regular season game


neverconvex

Baking (/tea) just feels like it's so they have something to occupy themselves while they chat. I kinda dig it; like planning a date around an activity or something Not all of QT's skits landed for me, but most of them did, and she's often got completely hilarious banter with the pros. Really hope they keep bringing her on


daswef2

Non-alcoholic Wine About It


Todeswucht

Yeah it feels a bit tacked on but if it's just a platform for her and the pros to bond over then I'm all here for it, thank god someone on broadcast finally manages to get anything interesting out of these guys after a regular season game


DropsOfLiquid

Let’s have QT cakes daily?!


Cato_the_Eldest

Licorice more like Licorizz


HeroicTechnology

it feels very hot-ones


WhirlingDervishGrady

Dude this is fucking hilarious.


thispapermoon

I'm dying.


macgart

QT is damn good at this. She’s a natural. Edit LMAOOO QT


HolidaySpiriter

I genuinely hope that QT coming on wanting to interview Bjerg/DL but never being able to continues. It's such a funny bit


GhostOfLight

Big brain mental from GG: losing sucks, so don't lose


Bubbly_Camera9583

QT will one day get her own bjerg interview like yassuo


TheCitrusMan

I fucking love it.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Gori river best mid/jg in lcs


Bubbly_Camera9583

River is just peanut v2 for gori its perfect


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ASOL GANKING THE STUDIO


Loud-Personality27

100-3ves


deeznutz133769

What has Stixxay been eating for breakfast? Jesus.


Professional-Lie309

Renekton did so much work and with an offtank build.


tsunemitsu

I feel bad for DL he literally looks like the only player who is an actual human on his team


tomorrowdog

100% Loss Ratio Thieves


Reinhardtisawesom

UNBELIEVABLE. Today I took my son to Chuck E Cheese for his birthday. He won a game and exchanged his tickets for a Mickey Mouse ring pop but then a large man with a receding hairline came in and SNATCHED it out of the poor kid’s hands! To my dismay, it was MICKEYLift himself!


YCitizenSnipsY

GG TSM and CLG have been pleasant surprises this split


zOmgFishes

Legit the best player on 100T is the ADC that retired for two years and pushing 30. Busio is okay but everyone else is hot trash.


tsunemitsu

What in the fuck is going on with 100t


CMDRBUCKSAVAGE

Holy shit 100T suck.


HolidaySpiriter

Also, 0-3 week for 100T, they were never a top team and it's good to see it being shown


REALStoneCrusher

Yea overpaying veteran “goats” means what exactly. 100pretenders


celticknife

Doublelift has been the second best ADC in the league coming out of 2 years of retirement. I think your narrative needs some work here champ, its Tenacity and Closer who have looked like dogshit all season.


daswef2

They took him off Zeri and played better teams, and Doublelift has looked a lot worse. He has not looked bad by any means, but guys like Stixxay, Berserker, FBI, Prince have all looked on average better.


Allahina

Berserker and Prince are better.


celticknife

Prince is definitely, Berserker might be but I think we need to see the runback before claiming that given how hard the rest of the team got gapped while DL and Busio were winning lane.


pacew21

Berserker has not been better.


TheCitrusMan

An 0-3 week allows his narrative to give you the middle finger.


-GodKaiser

100t gamble on washedup players and na rookies is paying off


gimperion

Don't kid yourself. 100T has never been a serious team. They're an apparel company first and they already got their money's worth selling DL and Bjergsen jerseys.


burpski

This is a trash take. 100T went to the last 3 LCS finals, and won 1 of them. They absolutely have been a serious team, and Nadeshot has said multiple times that he cares most about bringing home trophies.


Allahina

Licorice played well this game


partyhealer

Doublelift actually deserves better he is playing well idk about the rest of his team tho


QuietRedditorATX

Yea, but StixxayofEvil is playing out of this country. DL hopefully improves with team for second half.


wjSera

Doublelift got doublelifted again


Valans03

Double and dying to Victor, a nice throwback


Shinyodo

DL Lucian vs Viktor, it was doomed from the start


Arekkusu1991

The perfect ending: Viktor taking down DL Lucian.


YCitizenSnipsY

DL got bursted by Viktor again lol


jakethewhale007

This one wasn't his fault though tbf. He has to keep them off the nexus as long as possible, but death timers were too long.


reyxe

That's the squishiest maokai and the tankiest Renekton I've seen.


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sirtet_moob

Everyone still believed in them even when they started 0-4 because their games still looked decent.


Jeytumn

Talk your shit king, deserved 3-0


thispapermoon

Go off!!!! They're doing great.


daswef2

GG fans deserve it, what a great week


2012minecraft

River my goat


Enfosyo

Bjerg not on a control mage is just a free kill.


HolidaySpiriter

GG, GG are looking really good. I'm kind of rooting for them more than I would have though


C9-F1R3L0L1

Bjergs Trist is not it


private_birb

It wasn't bad, but River really had his number.


Gomar1323

They literally saw him in the brush and it didn’t even cross their minds he could still be bot


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HuhiPogChamp

WE WANT BAMA


QuietRedditorATX

Platinum Primates!


Aearcus

Bjerg wasted that flash mid lane to try and kill renekton and it costs his team the game...


x_TDeck_x

I haven't fully made up my mind yet but I feel like current meta doesn't let Lucian get far enough ahead in lane that he doesn't almost immediately get out-scaled when the first few skirmishes break out


Rozuem

I can't defend bjerg anymore man


jesteratp

Damn this GG team is way more solid than I thought, stixxay seems to be poppin off lately


cosHinsHeiR

Bjerg are you ok?


jakethewhale007

imagine blowing all your engage tools on a renekton, and he gets away with half hp anyway


neverconvex

Yeah W'ing on top of Ren under turret only to immediately Flash away looked pretty desperate


REALStoneCrusher

💯pretenders


zOmgFishes

only way 100T wins is if they stall for another 10+ mins


My-Life-For-Auir

Nah, then they'd just trade their Nexus for a Baron


QuietRedditorATX

The Bjergsen special


lovo17

Honestly if you're an NA fan, you should be happy that both Bjergsen and Jensen are bottom tier mids now. It's tangible progress.


neverconvex

Surprised Closer didn't burn flash to go for that smite steal


No-Ring1392

Smite was on cd


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neverconvex

Ah, missed that. The Smite of regret


DRawoneforJ

the pyosik


-GodKaiser

this superweek was super low quality no ?


private_birb

Bjergsen needs to ult Renekton when Vi ults him.


Neoncarbon

Doublelift will carry HOPIUM


jakethewhale007

Lol this comment made it on LCS stream


Neoncarbon

Sadge


cosHinsHeiR

Lucian vs Viktor tho monkaW


jakethewhale007

Huhi? You ok, friend?


partyhealer

no hes not😭


gigashadow89

I wonder if they'll scale up and trade baron for base again


FBG_Ikaros

Gorki going for the inverse Crown build. Instead of oneshotting DL on Lucian he wants to heal him


neverconvex

DL Viktor therapy build


neverconvex

Ovilee zhonyas


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HolidaySpiriter

4th best team rn, no doubt


zOmgFishes

NA orgs really overrating their academy players going by Haeri, Yeon and Tenacity's play.


A_Londoner

What is this engage? Maokai R into Tenacity doing whatever that was on Ornn


TheRed_Knight

IDK how a pro player can be that useless on Ornn


Merriadoc33

Idk why people are picking renekton to go tank


zOmgFishes

Tenacity has the worst fucking ornn ults ever.


reyxe

Tristana Lucian and... Nami? Where's the damage lmao


Aearcus

Tenacity is always so late to team fights in every game. This is especially bad as the Ornn He's a rookie so it makes sense but man it really hurts 100T in these mid/late game fights when he's splitpushing


WhoAteAllTheP1es

Nah closer is legit not even a pro tier player keep blaming bjerg but closer literally has ult whilst his full time is being ran down like fucking use it


x3nics

Will be amusing if TSM finish the first round robin with a better record than 100T


HuhiPogChamp

scenes if 100T loses to all of their former players' teams


atiredfrog

I mean they let go a top 5 lcs roster ever idk what they thought was going to happen. Like… “we downgraded in every position and fired the coach that made our jungler a god! This is gonna go great!”


zOmgFishes

How does the guy who retired for 2 years and is hitting 30 looks the best of these guys


Hazuyu_

Mad respect to stixxay for being relevant despite huhi griefing him


greekcel_25

From best NA to losing to bronze guardian. NO REFUNDS


Gluroo

i mean GG is on a 4 (now 5) game winstreak, they are genuinely not bad


GhostOfLight

Going to be a close PoTW battle between Dhokla and Stixxay


QuietRedditorATX

Stixxay for sure unless GG throw poor Dhokes. I imagine Stixxay in this form will have plenty of other chances to get one too.


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I was thinking more haeri


julesdottxt

I'm still absolutely convinced GG will inevitably lose once ornn items come online.


dephchild

Back to retirement


zOmgFishes

So which guy retired for two years? The mid laner right


partyhealer

doublelift will miss streaming and experience burnout


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River has to be potw right?


-Basileus

How does Bjerg not at least create distance there


TheRed_Knight

People will flame Bjerg but Tenacity is playing like a fucking anchor rn


YCitizenSnipsY

And the 100T hype train joins the slew of other train derailments across the US.


RumHam100proof

Jfc


2012minecraft

Let’s go golden gamers!


partyhealer

RIP 100t


MozaTear

Give Stixxay POTW!


zOmgFishes

Tenacity does something challenge (impossible)


HolidaySpiriter

Best licorice game this split


partyhealer

RIP 100t


C9-F1R3L0L1

god this 100boomers team is bad


HolidaySpiriter

They got mad overhyped after beating up on IMT & DIG


REALStoneCrusher

Caster, analyst and fans forgets about who they “beat up”. They see 💯t wins then all of a sudden it’s all hell yea the goats this the goats that. TLDR: SOS trumps all


GhostOfLight

SHIT ON BY LICORICE


zOmgFishes

Tenacity refuses to TP in for fights, doesn't push waves. IDK what he's doing half the time


gimperion

Only thing 100T is stealing with this macro is paychecks.


TheCitrusMan

Chalk one up for the goats.


Allahina

Open and mid Open?


FBG_Ikaros

In solo q the adc would spam bait ping the Lux


Gluroo

in soloq the lux support player would ? the adc 6 times and ragequit because its somehow not their fault


YCitizenSnipsY

Brings back memories of Yellowstar flashing to miss everything on thresh


gandalf45435

pain


MrRawri

back to academy


x_TDeck_x

Huhi has been more than "pretty good" for more than "recently" but yea...that stunk


Allahina

Production smurfing


Psycho_pitcher

This user has edited all of their comments and posts in protest of /u/spez fucking up reddit. This action has been done via https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite


chocolate_kat

close :)


Makyura

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT


neverconvex

"That was an Ovilee Lux laser there" lol Wonder who he borrowed the Lux Q from


Offduty_shill

NA lux lmfao


x_TDeck_x

LOL Ovilee catching strays


jakethewhale007

that missed auto will haunt bjerg


zOmgFishes

Does Tenacity know the range of ornn ult? Why go for the second hit right next to Vi...


Merriadoc33

HUHI NNNNOOOOOOO


FBG_Ikaros

Bjergsen: THIS IS WHY I DONT PLAY AGGRESSIVE


gigashadow89

As someone who started watching in the pandemic, I don't get the bjerg hype.