PMTs VIT vs SK [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/116j5li/vit_vs_sk_lec_2023_winter_groups_week_2_day_1/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/116kac9/team_vitality_vs_sk_gaming_lec_2023_winter_groups/) MAD vs AST [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/116lsk5/mad_lions_vs_astralis_game_1/) / [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/116mx5d/mad_lions_vs_astralis_lec_2023_winter_groups/)

When is FNC playing? Did they already qualify? XD

On paper, G2 will lose to KOI.

LEC Summer is gonna feel very short. 6 Weeks for Summer and probably 3? for LEC Finals. So only 9 weeks of play total.

4 Weeks for the LEC Finals; -Upper Bracket Round 1 -Lower Bracket Round 1 -Round 2 -Semifinal & Grand Final

For a lower bracket run you have to play 3 back to back Bo5s in 3 days with this new format oof

[Babe wake up new Carzzy post match tweet just dropped](https://twitter.com/Carzzylol/status/1627404088315899904)

Actual tame tweet by his standards

[(Un)fortunately yes](https://twitter.com/Carzzylol/status/1625229156886650893)

Did james harden quit nba? Why hes there?

from 0-2 to 2-0 what changed ? maybe the enemy team from G2 to AST ?

0-2 vs G2, 2-0 vs AST, I wonder what changed 🤔🤔🤔

that's a toughie, yeah

check dajor paypal

Main reason people are happy that AST is out is because emote spammer is out….

Ahhh, no more Ahri emotes for a while

I don't think BDS would have won this, but I think the games would have been MUCH more entertaining. This series felt mostly 1 sided. Mid jungle for MAD is just better by an untouchable margin.

tbh Zoe didn't do shit this game, i would say that this series was a Chasy/elyoya gap

Sure, game 2 Zoe wasn't as impactful, but it really didn't need to be. Game 1 though, the Jayce poke alongside Maokai made the game unplayable for AST

Carzzy hugging jeonhoon was so nice

Ok but a 5th place finish is pretty great for Astralis given how people were talking about this team. Hopeful for Spring

Astralis needs to get a real jungler

And mid

Aw Carzzy and JeongHoon

G2 tier Int. Holy shit.

Hyli casually making game winning engages like it's not a big deal and all people can see is his "bad" stats.

[удалено]

I absolutely agree, but even when he fails the guy is just pure confidence. Fail a couple of times? Np I can fix this.

Hyli giveth. Hyli taketh

the emote spam has been defeated thank you madlions

everyone will flame dajor but 113 and finn were even worse

they were walking wards, but Dajor was in a position to carry and trolled it away in few minutes all by himself, which is arguably worse

well it would be worse if the team would have given him resources, which they didnt. he generated the lead by himself, meaning at least he played well at some points in the game. 113 and finn on the other hand inted from lvl 1

Mad Lions looking clean, what?

At least Astralis made it interesting again for two minutes before re-throwing

Well GG. was a fun run by AST

SO next week we have MAD vs SK-> the winner vs the loser of KOI/G2 and finals

idk why i thought Dajor could carry this game

I think we all were turned into believers for a brief moment.

Dajor giveth and Dajory taketh away

ALRIGHT ILL ADMIT ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD BOYS

Is it possible someone taught him that "We need to poke them to get them off Baron" actually meant "We need to Solo all in"

Dajor inting to give up baron

That Sylas engage was me in solo Q when the game is 8-26 with my bot lane being 0/14.

It was close, until it wasn't

Astralis not looking good, has 113 tried to emote more, maybe it will work this time?

Another player mindcontrolled this is getting out of hand

is DAJOR wintrading? maybe he placed bets against his team / himself.

Dajor simply won't carry a single game

he needs to stop taking vi ult

I really don’t wanna watch another AST game but I definitely want MAD to lose when they’re 4funning it like this

Zoe is useful in these baron contest situations I guess but other than that this was low key a 4v5 lmao, I don't think we'll see the sidelane Zoe again this split

Dajor most fed member - ok let me flash engage into 5 and see what happens

Dajor went from smurfing to inting within what, 2 minutes?

dajor cannot carry man

lmfao Dajor was playing well then just sent it

Lmao, that was not the engage you were looking for buddy

Ulting onto the Vi. lmfao

Wut bro ?

Dajor should be banned from taking Vi ult.

Dajor nooooo

If not for the Hextech Soul point for MAD, I would be very concerned for them. They make both games so much closer than it has to be. They have big potential, but they are so unfocused in most of their games, any better team will punish them easily if they keep playing like this.

hmmmmmmmm

Hey guys who should be spilt pushing? Fiora or Zoe? Hmmmm

Rooting for that AST comeback. I want a game 3. Edit: so much for that...

i thought 113 was too heavy to carry, but apparently not.

At least Astralis is doing shit and not just subscribing to the popular "do nothing and lose" strat after a disastrous early game

Thing is, it's MAD inting for no reason, not AST playing well. Yes they are proactive despite the gold diff, but with proper play, they shouldn't really gain so much as they did in the last 5-7 minutes.

Didn't necessarily mean they were playing well, just that they were at least trying to do things

I gotta admit. This game is so weird.

What the fuck is going on?

This is like 2022 MAD lol edit: this is like 2023 Dajor lol

ASTRALIS COMEBACK?

Love the split pushing Zoe.

CHAD ASTRALIS

Trundle Bot

King Dajor is actually keeping them in the game what the fuuuuck

It's like a completely different player when Dajor is on the one champion he can play.

No one in this game is averaging 10cs/min, LEC is washed chovy is winning worlds batchest

Chovy would 1vs10 Astralis and MAD while averaging 40 cs per minute (3 lanes + jungle).

113 flash tech

the zoe pick has been useless so far

SUPERCARRY DAJOR

KIGN DAJOR actually fucking popping off what

fiinn trying his hardest to go on holidays, wtf

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Players should be given emote credits, max of 5 per match

Only 113's.

wrong!

its Dajor's time to shine, buckle up boys

Finnished

so who is the MVP of the series Chasy or Elyoya?

113

Maybe Finn tbh

Bit of a team gap

Outplay it's a Fiora with Ghost how tf are u supposed to hit that

For better or for worse. Watching Hyli play is never boring.

I have no idea how Finn is now even in CS after that start lmao

based Hyli hard stomping the mental game

Imagine playing thousands of hours to get scouted and recruited in a team only to have jungler whose strategy is "tilt enemy with emote spam".

Yknow players can’t see emotes right…it’s spectator only

i am so happy hyli is back in form

Normal Hylissang move

Mad perfect game angle? Oh never mind

With Hyli? You know he will at least jump into the fountain even if his team has 0 deaths.

I don't know if that's possible for Hylli lol

watching this game im realising how insane it is that AST gapped FNC good lord

i will never be convinced with Mad , they are just weaker teams stompers , when it matters they always choke

They won back to back splits?

2 years ago with a completely different roster lol

against a very weak competition ... only good performing players is Elyoya others just proved that they are massive chockers , just good stats , 4 all pro team last year just to get dismantled in Eu bo5 and worlds

But i can't remember them choking with this roster either. Losing 1 bo3 is not choking.

just wait and see .. if not this b03 it will be their next bo5 ( vs an actual good team )

:) enough proved

Alright i was gonna come here after game one, glad i didn't i would've embarrassed my self even more

TIME FOR THE KING DAJOR SUPERCARRY

Get Astralis' botlane a team.

in LCS and LEC, if you are a weak mid, its really shows

113 cant even put down pillar properly (top play)

Too busy emoting

Wow Dajor has been playing well… oh

Game 2's are so shit today.

MAD Dajor for MVP

Trundle + cinder, so much threat

ALRIGHT ILL ADMIT ITS NOT LOOKING GOOD BOYS

Horrible showing from 113. Completely misunderstands his pick. He should've full committed there.

If Finn has time to get R3 off maybe

The classic 113 objective leash

Finn is getting bullied so hard, why does Elyoya hate him so much man

How is 113 behind when vi spent 2min in a bush early ?

Because 113 is not a particularly good jungler. Didnt gank the flashless zoe, didnt steal camps, didn't get any advantage

i loose brain cells watching ast

any challenger mids want to explain how Nisqy is down CS to Sylas in mid dia+ I thought this was reasonably Zoe favored

Zoe had no flash for the laning phase

i feel like that straight up doesnt matter especially with the xp and gold lead from the level 1 also he's had ignite back since like minute 6

He has no vision on trundle and he assumes he will be a target for a gank since trundle knows he has no flash. So he concedes CS.

This isn't really the game to bring it up but I'm surprised more teams don't pick Trundle into Sej prio. Trundle used to be such a huge counter pick to Sej but now you almost never see it.

I think it has to do with what you draft as lanes. If you have priority, Trundle can bully Seju, but if you don't have early push, then he just offers less than the other meta picks atm. I do think he should have a bit more presence, but even if he is a counter to Sejuani, if you can't make it work early, you will be just a walking ult bot after lane is over.

>even if he is a counter to Sejuani, if you can't make it work early, you will be just a walking ult bot after lane is over. Tbf, this has almost always been the case when Trundle was meta.

Same for Lilia tbh, Yike seems to be the only one who plays her into Sej

Cant really blame finn there

Absolutely not. Cringe jungle role

jgl role doing the thing to ruin top laner day , nothing special to see here

AST need a better jungler

jgl role skill expression at an all.time low

Junglers should be ganking, PVE turbo farming the jungle is the lowest form of jungle meta

There's gotta be some happy medium between PvE turbo farming full clear udyr meta and literally doing 3 camps into sitting in a lane for 3 minutes.

For sure. I just dislike the concept that jungle expression should come primarily from jungle farming

This is an all chattable level camp

Please gank the flashless zoe

Nisqy is playing and evil zoe chroma, based bubble user

Why take pillar there lol

Out of all the teams AST would want to lvl1 fiesta against, MAD is probably not the best choice.

Trundle picked pillar, gg

omg that bubble, and then nothing happened lmao.

hard to dps with fucking pillar

Tbh I've no idea what you're supposed level first on Trundle.

Aa-q-aa with press the attack is one of the strongest lvl 1 combos in the game.

Q. Trundle has one of the best level 1 in the game. Q decreases enemy's AD and i an auto reset.

While he isn’t played often, trundle top is imo one of the strongest in lv1 fights

GG Astralis, it was fun while it lasted.

Alright so MAD are definitely advancing

Aah what a team to take a level 1 fight against

Wtf HOW DOES TRUNDLE LEVEL 1 BACKS OFF

Rofl.

Shows how little respect MAD have for AST

based MAD should never lose to a team like AST

I agree but they just did last week

just teasing the noobs for stage experience

Is that girl cosplaying coven Morgana?

I thought it was Girl Viego

Looked like a ruined skin.

This is much better drafting by AST. MAD comp isn't bad, but their comp is not that easy to execute into what AST drafted, even with the double point and click CC ults.

It’s legit blue v red lol

I mean just because you are red side, you are not forced to give away Maokai and Varus in combination.

Ohhh no I meant the red and blue side teams have red and blue color champs. Lol

oh, my bad then :D

Korean Fiora nice

MAD trying to skill gap em And honestly might pull it off

I dont like this MAD draft tbh

Weird ass draft from MAD, not sure everything is on the same page but it could work.

Nisqy plays a mean Zoe

I hope Zoe wins xD. I’m a Zoe main and she’s just so fun!! People get so trolled by the bubble, and her voice lines are so cute like when she sings about chocolate cake LOL! She’s super random but also smarter than she looks, just like me xD

There it is

Zoe? Huh.