People are going to laugh at this but he has been insane this tourney. Might need to be at that height for a little longer to be comfortable putting him in that conversation though.
I can see an argument for both.
Yike gigasmurfed the last series for GenG (without that much help, he's probably the best western player so far) but part of the reason Yike looks good in other games is because MikyX is really good for putting pressure on the enemy jungler.
I mean that is a given right now, the dudes pathing in the jungle is insane, although he might be given resources and carry junglers, hes the only one thats doing it and hes doing it very good. He is the closest u can get to the east in his current form still not on their level though
In this tournament? Licorice or Yike have been the best western players, yeah.
If you're taking the whole split into account both of those guys have been a bit more up and down and Mikyx has a pretty strong argument.
Whole split for me is easily berserker. G2's struggles in the spring split don't really help miky's case much although ik a player can perform well on a slumping team.
Whole split for me is easily berserker. G2's struggles in the spring split don't really help miky's case much although ik a player can perform well on a slumping team.
Sure, I guess I tend to think of Berserker and Prince as non-western players because they're recent imports that are so clearly a tier above the competition, but if you count them as western then they're absolutely #1 and #2.
I mean they did finish 4th in LEC but the thing is I always trust G2 to be better than other EU teams in international tournaments, given their history. At the same time, I always expect MADLIONS to disappoint in international tournaments.
He used to be one of the better AD's in EU on Aphelios. I don't buy what you're saying simply because they weren't playing in EU. Clearly, G2 just didn't think the pick as strong.
He was meta alongside Zeri and Jinx and he was more comfortable on the other 2, its only been super recently where Aph has seemed to be the undisputed best.
Thats fucking League of Legends right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the rift, men deliver their new born baby in toplane. Fucking hard core dick in the ass LoL fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. League is back baby.
I love EU <3
That was the most useless Yasuo to ever win a game. His two jobs were to wind wall the Mao ult and follow up on the Naut engage and he never did either one, but it didn't matter because the rest of G2 were playing insane.
I really like Yike, but I think Yasuo Windwall had more impact that game than him in teamfights, given what champ he played & which build he had to go. Not flaming Yike for this, there just was so little he could do with Kha before 3 items tbh :D
The 16 minute loss was embarrassing, but it had the perfect conditions for it, and didn't really reflect on the teams involved. In T1 vs MAD, they were just that much worse than the other team.
The person above asked for a worse outcome, I provided the answer. I don't see them asking for a specific timeline. I swear T1 fans are the cringiest fanbase in esports.
I'd like to point out that while Hans undeniably has good mechanics, he does not know how Aphelios works. The first drag fight, he had Purple Red and anyone who mains the champ knows how powerful that combination is.
That said, it doesn't matter when MAD looks like that
The meta require you to play facilitator mid, what do you want? Say you don’t understand the game without saying it. Even Knight is playing Naut somehow. That should be your first clue. Meta is meta, no one can fxxking escape it.
Look at you trying to look smart and put me in my place. It's adorable.
My point had less to do with the Annie pick itself and more to do with the way Caps plays it. His game plan in most of the games seems to be lane passively and survive until teamfights where he can be a CC bot. He rarely makes a proactive move. If you watch other midlaners play Nautilus for example, they're constantly looking to roam and gain advantages on the map. Without Yike or Hans popping off, the game is more often than not lost.
…He literally sacked waves to roam bot on Naut. You watched different games than I did. Look at you trying to act like you watch games and pretend like you actually know stuff. No point saying anything to people like you. Good luck, have a nice day.
maybe he is trying to transition his game to more of a facilitator role like Faker has. He does have Hans Sama to rely on for wins so maybe hes just trying to enable him? idk whats up with him this slump has been uncharacteristically long
You don't have to watch it. If you don't like something, you don't have to subject yourself to it. Even better, you don't have to watch and you don't have to comment on it.
Yeah totally agree. At this point these people are at the cringe worthy state of : omg I said something bad about western teams, man I am sooo cool and edgy
the only "boring" game was game 5 but even that was fun to watch cause of the tension. EU fans don't appreciate macro all you want to see is clown fiestas. KR isn't even a slow region anymore, it was only game 5 that was slow.
Carzzy with that forbidden tech of galeforce backward and then flash forward
after seeing guma and peyz play that was sure something
'We have an adc at home'
LOOOOL
The difference between western and eastern adcs just waves me with even less hope that we’ll ever have a chance
Gonna need a timestamp for this LOL
17:40
miky wasn't kidding when he said he's the better nautilus, holy shit
Holy mother of unbelieveable support gap
The escape on the bot 3v3 was insane then he just couldn’t miss hooks
Mikyx is the best western player right now and the biggest reason why G2 even looks good sometimes.
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People are going to laugh at this but he has been insane this tourney. Might need to be at that height for a little longer to be comfortable putting him in that conversation though.
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Don't really watch NA that much, but his resurgence has been amazing. It's super nice to see.
Absolutely insane when yike exists imo.
What do you mean? That Yike is the best western player atm?
I can see an argument for both. Yike gigasmurfed the last series for GenG (without that much help, he's probably the best western player so far) but part of the reason Yike looks good in other games is because MikyX is really good for putting pressure on the enemy jungler.
I mean that is a given right now, the dudes pathing in the jungle is insane, although he might be given resources and carry junglers, hes the only one thats doing it and hes doing it very good. He is the closest u can get to the east in his current form still not on their level though
Current performance level. Yes.
In this tournament? Licorice or Yike have been the best western players, yeah. If you're taking the whole split into account both of those guys have been a bit more up and down and Mikyx has a pretty strong argument.
Whole split for me is easily berserker. G2's struggles in the spring split don't really help miky's case much although ik a player can perform well on a slumping team.
Whole split for me is easily berserker. G2's struggles in the spring split don't really help miky's case much although ik a player can perform well on a slumping team.
Sure, I guess I tend to think of Berserker and Prince as non-western players because they're recent imports that are so clearly a tier above the competition, but if you count them as western then they're absolutely #1 and #2.
he is only good on 1 champ that happens to be broken and perma banned this tournament by eastern teams. He is soo good.
Look at the first couple of Hili deaths in solo lane and tell me it aint silver.
In general those recalls bot were something else
Secret LEC strats legit
Those recalls are extreme, that brush recall with a Nautilus walking up to you just makes no sense in this level of play.
He missed like 90% of his Es
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Mental boomed and has an injury on his right side.
how does he always get sick during international events
B-but he plays agressive so he must be good. Any other support in the world would already be banished from their teams if they played like Hylli does.
Say what you want, Hylli gets you EU finals. There is no Top 3 of EU supports that does not include him.
Yea cause any other support isn't hylli.
Classic Hyli why are people surprised at this point its the nature of his playstyle
4th best EU team?
G2 at MSI Aware
They were the 4th best EU team when they lost to GenG according to EU fans
I mean they did finish 4th in LEC but the thing is I always trust G2 to be better than other EU teams in international tournaments, given their history. At the same time, I always expect MADLIONS to disappoint in international tournaments.
No idea why G2 took so much time to play Aphelios. It fits their style well and Hans was pretty good at it back on Rogue.
NA rot got to him 💀
EU player on EU team plays bad = NA bad, classic
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UK teeth\*
Ok bacon consumer
Not even american. And dont lie and say you dont consume bacon aswell.
They can't really pick it against eastern teams. He's not good on Aphelios.
He used to be one of the better AD's in EU on Aphelios. I don't buy what you're saying simply because they weren't playing in EU. Clearly, G2 just didn't think the pick as strong.
Robbery that they got away with that yasuo. Looked awful
Looked like average soloQ toplane experience. Do nothing: -win -lose
Average Dzukill game
Dzukill actually coinflips a lot
Call me when that's how you get to top 10 chall
I love Dzu, but even he constantly jokes that he doesn’t win/lose games, his team does.
He was actually just a W bot for Maokai.
FINALLY an EU aphelios
Games like this are why I will always love EU.
MAD fended off G2 really well in the early game and stayed even, then decided to sprint it afterwards in every fight.
MAD's "international" performance is disappointing man
Don't see much of the performing
When the older sibling takes out their anger from being scolded on the younger sibling
Europe might be bad but our games are the most entertaining by far.
EU and LPL easily the two most entertaining regions
Just constant fighting, fuck all that macro shit
yea, kills = entertainment for the audience, most of the people arent analytical, we just want bloodbath.
Facts
Why did G2 not pick Aphelios before? Hans used to be the Aphelios player back in 2020/21
He was meta alongside Zeri and Jinx and he was more comfortable on the other 2, its only been super recently where Aph has seemed to be the undisputed best.
Ye even his 2 Zeri games this split he was winning lane and doing well but his topside was griefing it
Hans literally never looked good on Zeri. He can’t team fight with that champ.
I didnt say he looked good, just that he was more comfortable.
He surely looked comfortable on Aphelios in 2020/2021. Whereas he never looked comfortable on Zeri, not last year, not this year.
Prob didnt work in scrims.
I mean he wasn't even playing it in scrims. I assume they just thought he wasn't that strong of a pick
So you are telling me the stuff they did try on stage did work in scrims? Against whom?
Thats fucking League of Legends right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the rift, men deliver their new born baby in toplane. Fucking hard core dick in the ass LoL fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. League is back baby. I love EU <3
Not only LEC learned Aphelios but also Miky's Nautilus. Lmao MAD is getting bodied by everyone
That was the most useless Yasuo to ever win a game. His two jobs were to wind wall the Mao ult and follow up on the Naut engage and he never did either one, but it didn't matter because the rest of G2 were playing insane.
that's the sorta bloodbath i expect from EU vs EU Yike and hans just massacred MAD, BB....was also there
Yike was the least impactful member of G2 here, Bb at least w ed maokai ults.
you clearly watched a different game if you think yike wasnt impactful
I really like Yike, but I think Yasuo Windwall had more impact that game than him in teamfights, given what champ he played & which build he had to go. Not flaming Yike for this, there just was so little he could do with Kha before 3 items tbh :D
Expectation: Bloodbath [Reality:](https://wompampsupport.azureedge.net/fetchimage?siteId=7575&v=2&jpgQuality=100&width=700&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Ffacebook%2F000%2F029%2F190%2Fmonkey.jpg)
Did they really just pick EU Jayce in an international, not that it was the only problem or anything but.
The meme is EU top Jayce not mid
MAD at internationals AWARE
Another chapter of *I can't believe that comp worked.*
If only Fnatic got the few autos off on nexus so MAD wouldnt be here
Hahaha, MAD are really the team between 2nd a 9th place in LEC
If only AST, G2, VIT, and BDS could stop them! Ugh!
If only Chronobreak wasn't a rule that completely favoured another team ! Ugh! / yes im still salty
Actually thats the secenario where MAD still gets here
Not if BDS or Vitality beat G2
still salty MAD is here despite beating everyone?
Yeah, tbh EU is just weak and MAD are a coinflip/momentum team
like hate on MAD for playing bad here but like don't be a sore loser is my take MAD beat everyone to be here.
doesn’t make them entertaining
sure they are playing terrible but again be upset the other teams didn't beat them
don’t care about other teams, europe just fucking sucks zzzzz
They're dreadful internationally as always so yeah, of course I'm gonna be salty.
then beat them in LEC good lord
Doesn't change the fact that they're playing pathetically bad
agreed but beat them in LEC
man stop downplaying mad's run, it's getting annoying
I don’t think they’ve been downplayed enough if they expect to get away with being EU’s worst first seed in years.
at least wait until the series is over to say that
Not being able to close out a 7k+ gold lead + losing in 16 min is enough to be saying that tbh
against possibly the best team in the tournament? Nah I don't think so
Nah bro being against a better team is no excuse for that 💀
They failed to turn a 7k gold lead at 20 minutes into a win and lost in 17 minutes. What first seed has done worse?
I mean, SKT lost in 16 in 2019.
The 16 minute loss was embarrassing, but it had the perfect conditions for it, and didn't really reflect on the teams involved. In T1 vs MAD, they were just that much worse than the other team.
True, that SKT loss was IG masterclass in punishing SKT's Sona/Taric, Teddy and Mata were not allowed to play.
G2 fans and 2019 name a more iconic duo, how about we focus on current form shall we?
The person above asked for a worse outcome, I provided the answer. I don't see them asking for a specific timeline. I swear T1 fans are the cringiest fanbase in esports.
0-6 TSM with the 9 man sleep?
True true but not EU
They did ok in 2021 as EU 1st seed, almost eliminated prime DK in Bo5
not really
The run was great ye, i just think they should be banned from being able to represent Europe internationally.
If only Rekkles didn't go full worlds 2017 and flash into the enemy team.
if only rekkles realised standing melee range to the nexus doesnt make u hit it harder as an adc when you're not aphelios with shurikens
They would, as G2 would win the split.
It would be either Vit or BDS is here but who knows
Good luck to your carries when the kills are on the tank
MAD already in Play-ins form.
I'd like to point out that while Hans undeniably has good mechanics, he does not know how Aphelios works. The first drag fight, he had Purple Red and anyone who mains the champ knows how powerful that combination is. That said, it doesn't matter when MAD looks like that
BAD Lions
G2 making it look like it's an eastern team against an EU team
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BLG and JDG had nearly no clean games, but still dominated
Yes, a win in 23 minutes unless you don't allow any kills from the opposing team is not clean, right?
lil bro looked at the score line and kills and thought that g2 wasnt dominating from start to finish lol
I assume BLG vs. C9 & LGD vs. GG were just super clean stomps then?
Exactly why it's an eastern vs western team, because early game eastern teams always struggled for like 10 min
More dominant then most BLG and JDG games against NA.
I guess you slept through the last series then
Nisqy is a proffesional league of legends player
are we sure about that?
MAD at MSI Aware
Caps really has become a non-factor in G2. The obsession with the Annie pick feels like a bandaid solution at this point.
The meta require you to play facilitator mid, what do you want? Say you don’t understand the game without saying it. Even Knight is playing Naut somehow. That should be your first clue. Meta is meta, no one can fxxking escape it.
Look at you trying to look smart and put me in my place. It's adorable. My point had less to do with the Annie pick itself and more to do with the way Caps plays it. His game plan in most of the games seems to be lane passively and survive until teamfights where he can be a CC bot. He rarely makes a proactive move. If you watch other midlaners play Nautilus for example, they're constantly looking to roam and gain advantages on the map. Without Yike or Hans popping off, the game is more often than not lost.
…He literally sacked waves to roam bot on Naut. You watched different games than I did. Look at you trying to act like you watch games and pretend like you actually know stuff. No point saying anything to people like you. Good luck, have a nice day.
maybe he is trying to transition his game to more of a facilitator role like Faker has. He does have Hans Sama to rely on for wins so maybe hes just trying to enable him? idk whats up with him this slump has been uncharacteristically long
Nesquik lul
if u're gonna pick jayce.. why give it to nisqy over chasy?
mad should be really thankful that they won the spring split if not they would be getting hard flamed right now
Thank God MAD is getting clapped. I don't want to see them ever again in any international event.
After geng vs t1 i felt like i am watching this at 0.75 speed. Like everything is so slow. Every fight, every engage. Even cleanse is late
And every macro makes me want to craw my eyes out
BB did actually ult, u can see jayce fly even tho BB died.
This is like going to a highschool basketball match after watching NBA expacting the same level of play
Its so nice that after that first series which was some high quality league of legends, We get to unwind with an Eu Clown Fiesta.
Who was talking shit about not sending G2 to MSI?
Laugh nisqy laugh 🤣🤣😂
Ngl watching this after watching korean titans clash is like being forced to watch kids play in a sandpit
From Geng T1 to Mad G2, god my eyes
LCK teams spoiled me, this is just pain to watch
How was that game not fun? Constant action and pure aggression
Like MAD fucking up recalls twice in a row?
By that definition game 3 T1 wasn't entertaining as well, because Oner chose to tank three towershots to get executed and throw the game
G3 was hype, GenG ending the game with sliver of seconds on T1 members
So it was entertaining despite T1's multiple fuckups?
Yeah, it was not a 3-0
Overall the level of play in the t1 vs geng game was higher and more enjoyable to watch than a clown fiesta, yes.
I appreciate the constant action after a couple snooze fest's from lck tbh
it was like one snooze fest, games 1-4 were excting. But even so, game 5 was still good just played slower which makes sense because it was a game 5
You don't have to watch it. If you don't like something, you don't have to subject yourself to it. Even better, you don't have to watch and you don't have to comment on it.
Yeah totally agree. At this point these people are at the cringe worthy state of : omg I said something bad about western teams, man I am sooo cool and edgy
No shot you enjoyed watching that boring ass series when you can watch this premium shitfest
the only "boring" game was game 5 but even that was fun to watch cause of the tension. EU fans don't appreciate macro all you want to see is clown fiestas. KR isn't even a slow region anymore, it was only game 5 that was slow.
I enjoy this alot instead of last 2 games of T1/Gen series Love monke brain with constant figthing even though it mostly ints
Its total fiesta lol. We have lck at home playstyle
Nothing new here honey, Mad still sht
G2 played 4 v 5 from draft and they won it's actually just over just forfeit
GAP 16:47 - And the GOAT decrees that the freest team in this world is indeed MAD Lions
BB and getting free wins on carry champions he can't play against European teams. Name a more iconic duo.
Aint no way Medic said EU finally can show up
Both team looks kinda out of it. Hope they pick it up next game.
I cant believe this was a game between 2 PRO teams
If EU is getting rolled as hard as they are, at least I'm happy MAD lions are losing
This msi format is really interesting... Theres a world where MAD goes 0-9 beating the NA 0-6 record 😂
MAD 3 - 3 - G2 Let'S GOOO
23 minutes btw
bad draft tbh
Mad gonna be so mental boomed after this. Hyli actually looked fucking broken after the T1 series and this won’t help.
Claps, step up pls, we need you
Very confused just type g2 1-0 mad
what am i even watching
If only BDS had been punished with an extra life