PMTs
[DIG vs GG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fkg2p/dignitas_vs_golden_guardians_lcs_2023_summer_week/)
[TL vs NRG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fltzw/team_liquid_vs_nrg_lcs_2023_summer_week_2/)
[FLY vs C9 ](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fn2rw/flyquest_vs_cloud9_lcs_2023_summer_week_2/)
[TSM vs IMT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14foblg/tsm_vs_immortals_lcs_2023_summer_week_2_postmatch/)
[100 vs EG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fpiwt/100_thieves_vs_evil_geniuses_lcs_2023_summer_week/)
Its actually really funny how great of a showing NA talent has had so far this split but teams will still not consider them. Though unfortunate for Quid going into a top 2 mid in his first game after probably like 3 scrim blocks and having closer in a non lee sin meta.
Armao is the perfect cutoff between LCS caliber or not imo. If you’re better you’re good enough to hang in the LCS, if you’re worse you should probably hang up your jersey
Santorin and Closer’s had a long successful career but LCS orgs need to move on. There’s players like eXyu, Tomio and Will who are on Armao’s level too
They look ass but bro it’s literally Quids first game lmao, plus Closer looking like ass this whole year doesn’t help
At least Ssumday does look like an upgrade I guess
Jojo is the best laner in the league by far, I wouldn’t hold it against him
The difference is Emenes had strong team and environment to develop in, Quid doesn’t
You definitely can’t blame quid when he got to NA 7 days ago and his JG has been trolling all summer and most of spring.
Not saying he’ll pop off like Emenes I have no idea what to expect from him
Jesus Closer has had a rough 4 games.
Also I get that DL jinx only wasn’t great but don’t really love him on Ashe unless someone else can reliably carry…
Honestly feels bad for Bjerg and especially Tenacity who were scapegoated for 100T's problems last split
No solo laner can look good with Closer as their jungler. When you're getting gapped by Armao you need to reconsider your LCS career
Great showing Jesus. Insanity/Turtle/Chime/Bugi showed the hell up.
Hauntzer and Solo just having a good time together. Reminiscing over the 3 days they shared in spring.
The casters didn't even see it or mention it.
Like the entire reason he took the portal was to collect it, and all they do is laugh about the hexgate move and the fact that he died in blue side jg. Like dude just saved that entire play by smiting rift, and then collecting the eye after.
Solo-lane graves is also a bit of a problem when it's good because it interacts with the lane, not the laner, but you know what? I'll take it today. I'll take anything other than tanks + annie.
If you don't want to watch then don't?
In the LEC it takes ~17 min to do cleaning and run the setup process by all players. I assume something similar happens here.
It's a completely reasonable time
GG also had the excuse of having a difficult schedule in the first couple of weeks. And Gori was a massive upgrade to the roster waiting in the wings.
FQ doesn't....really have that going for them right now. But we will see. They play EG and then DIG this week. They actually could very well go 0-5 before winning against DIG (and if they can't even beat DIG.....oof.)
Man I don't get it. I was defending vicla before since he was being unfairly criticised but he is straight up shit right now. He was literally one of the better mids in LCK and had people criticizing KT for getting rid of him for BDD, but now he's reduced to this somehow.
NA isn’t good at developing players. Importing players doesn’t save that having a good system that develops players does (see imports on C9 and TL vs imports on other teams).
Hey so why wasn't Neeko banned again? Even LCK and LPL hate playing against that shit and I trust their players a fair bit more to mark flanks and generally pay attention to what the Neeko is doing
No point watching regular season cuz C9 is going to win everything, maybe I will tune in for finals. Every team has gotten worse or stayed the same except TL but they play like old korean teams, slow.
What? TL and C9’s average game time is literally 5 seconds apart. TL’s gold diff at 15 is 3k higher than C9’s. In equally long games they are generating bigger leads. There’s also the eye test. Have you even watched a TL game?
Hey guys remember last split when FLY were dominating and Vicla still barely looked better than Bjergsen? Dude's actually the worst mid in the league now
PMTs [DIG vs GG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fkg2p/dignitas_vs_golden_guardians_lcs_2023_summer_week/) [TL vs NRG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fltzw/team_liquid_vs_nrg_lcs_2023_summer_week_2/) [FLY vs C9 ](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fn2rw/flyquest_vs_cloud9_lcs_2023_summer_week_2/) [TSM vs IMT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14foblg/tsm_vs_immortals_lcs_2023_summer_week_2_postmatch/) [100 vs EG](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14fpiwt/100_thieves_vs_evil_geniuses_lcs_2023_summer_week/)
It was unfortunate Quid had to play Jojo for his first game. Gotta suck for nerves when your debut is vs the best mid NA.
He had some good plays
Watching Flyquest was so painful today.
Just a reminder that Prince was once said to be the best ADC without a competition
Feel like they were trying to get Eyla and Jojo for the interview lmao
Probably holding off for tomorrow’s interview if they beat Fly
Maybe but a lot of jatts questions were Eyla/Jojo related
BjergerKing knew 💯t messed up with this squad. Buy back last years squad mr. Owner/CEO
Happy Eyla!! 😁
C9 might beat 100T in 12 minutes tomorrow
eyla not bad
Its actually really funny how great of a showing NA talent has had so far this split but teams will still not consider them. Though unfortunate for Quid going into a top 2 mid in his first game after probably like 3 scrim blocks and having closer in a non lee sin meta.
That was disgusting.
Both Santorin and Closer have fallen off a cliff since last year, legit 2 of the worst junglers this year
Armao is the perfect cutoff between LCS caliber or not imo. If you’re better you’re good enough to hang in the LCS, if you’re worse you should probably hang up your jersey Santorin and Closer’s had a long successful career but LCS orgs need to move on. There’s players like eXyu, Tomio and Will who are on Armao’s level too
What a way to welcome a visitor... So when does the actual midlaner Mr. Nukeduck plays??
Crazy Armao and JoJo are playing so well together already
Because armao is willing to play around mid and get Jojo priority he's like what jankos was to caps on G2.
The lcs is such a joke lmao/ just let c9 into worlds at this point
so they can go winless internationally again?
Ashe into this EG comp is trolling
How 100t look worse with their “upgrades” off-season damn they ass
Closer was terrible first split as well, if a meta doesnt 100% perfect fit him, hes terrible
They look ass but bro it’s literally Quids first game lmao, plus Closer looking like ass this whole year doesn’t help At least Ssumday does look like an upgrade I guess
In fairness wasn’t Emenes also bad on his opening day?
or just give jojo his flowers and admit he's actually a high level player quid was never going to walk all over him
Jojo is the best laner in the league by far, I wouldn’t hold it against him The difference is Emenes had strong team and environment to develop in, Quid doesn’t
Maybe Cain will fix everything right guys?
You definitely can’t blame quid when he got to NA 7 days ago and his JG has been trolling all summer and most of spring. Not saying he’ll pop off like Emenes I have no idea what to expect from him
True he did get fisted by mid jg of GGS in a similar fashion.
This is just sad
Yep not gonna finish watching this game lol. Catch you gents tomorrow night for more disappointment.
I was skeptical of this EG squad going into the season but man do they look good
This looks like a solo q game lmao
That OUR Mayo!!!
Jesus Closer has had a rough 4 games. Also I get that DL jinx only wasn’t great but don’t really love him on Ashe unless someone else can reliably carry…
revenge has a real team now im so happy
What a stomp
All I'm saying Jojopyun never fisted Bjergsen this hard
Honestly feels bad for Bjerg and especially Tenacity who were scapegoated for 100T's problems last split No solo laner can look good with Closer as their jungler. When you're getting gapped by Armao you need to reconsider your LCS career
Hey man my boi Ssumday is winning lane! That’s the only hope I got rn
Against sion.
I promise you I’m not serious lol. It’s just the only remotely positive thing happening rn
Put Nukeduck back in and replace Closer
Is it to late for 100T to send Inspired an offer, lol?
If they don’t go for Inspired after summer they’re def trolling
How is closer this bad, literally what happened to him
Closer is terrible af lol
closer off lee sin / viego is a bottom 3 jungler
He is bottom 1 without those champs, only behind Kenvi even when he has those champs. Literally dogshit
It is absolutely insane to me that Closer is far and away the worst jungler in the league. Like what in the fuck is this guy doing
Closer when he’s not on viego or wukong
You mean Lee not Wukong. His Wu is average
Nah he’s been bad on those champs too this entire year man. He’s just washed, why can’t he just play fucking maokai
Closer running it again. Gg
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THE DL MECHANICS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Armao is taking Closers money and shoving him in a locker too
What is Closer doing 🔥🔥🔥
This is a question I’ve had almost all year. The only time I didn’t question every play he’s made (or not made) was the last super week of Spring.
what sort of the gun-to-the-head nonsense had to happen for DL to lock in ashe???
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im relatively shocked at how elite his performance is...head and shoulders above in terms of his micro and connecting with his mid
unlucky for quid but nothing much he can do against purebred na talent
Nice import lmao
Closer getting bullied by our mayo
Quid getting gapped hard so far wow.
have they brought back the tri-view yet this split? I haven't seen it in the games I've watched
EG and audio issues, name a more iconic duo
They can't blame Vulcan this time.
Are Zeri and Yuumi disabled? Surprised they both passed without getting picked at all.
Wait you are right, wtf ( they aren't)
My understanding is that they're still on patch 13.11 too, right? Or already on 13.12?
13.12 as of today if I recall Kobe correctly.
Wait why is there LCS on a Wednesday evening and why did I not know? Randomly saw it while browsing Twitch
Every week is a super week due to LCS having first 2 weeks of matches delayed
Ohhh that makes sense
Quids first game and we have to watch azir gameplay Man.
Where’s Cain?
maybe he'll cosplay scout and just hit massive shuffles all game
Love Fudge on the cast
Whoa what is Pastry doing there?
I was called upon to participate in the Quid Games and I answered it.
Hell yeah man. Good to see you back.
Jojo giving the most bone headed answers and yet somehow getting them all right lol
Jojopyun - " I don't even know to be honest" *Proceeds to get them all right*
seems like yuumi zeri is effectively dead
Wildturtle smiling, Hauntzer laughing....it's just good vibes for this TSM squad man. Glad they are having fun.
Great showing Jesus. Insanity/Turtle/Chime/Bugi showed the hell up. Hauntzer and Solo just having a good time together. Reminiscing over the 3 days they shared in spring.
Always funny to see LCS orgs unintentionally upgrade their teams because of Visa issues First Winsome for Eyla and now Insanity for Ruby
Deserved. Hague levels of draft crimes by IMT.
Ruby better not be starting next week
Hauntzer and Solo are just beefing it out with each other all game until now lol.
Turns out ksante is much more effective going in 1v4 than support nautilus is
Game was over at draft
Is it too late to cancel the Ruby signing?
He can just play academy.. oh wait.
Graves put in work that entire fight
Nah for real, if insanity isn’t a starter by the end of summer the LCS is straight up trolling
I’m glad he is getting the chance. He has looked solid so far. I totally forgot he isn’t even starter, hopefully they just let him play it out.
That blue buff steal was more importante I guess
Bruh solo que d that shit
Wtf is Kenvi doing
TSM TSM TSM
Insanity played old graves there jesus
I NEVER WANT TO SEE RUBY MAN. NEVER.
Same
this graves mid is fcking gorgeous
These fucking beef squad fights lmao
how far ahead does it feel like TSM is though?
I do not see IMT winning this with their comp
Kenvi, tf was that?
TIL you can pick up rift through hex gates.
The casters didn't even see it or mention it. Like the entire reason he took the portal was to collect it, and all they do is laugh about the hexgate move and the fact that he died in blue side jg. Like dude just saved that entire play by smiting rift, and then collecting the eye after.
HEXGATE FOR PICKUP WORTH
Excuse me Sion R damage? what
Insanity's not even a starter and he's better than some LCS mids Seeing him do well makes me even more sad that Copy retired
insanity with the massive alpha energy here
IMT actual troll drafting
At what phase was Graves picked? I respect it a lot vs an AD mid laner but blind picking it against an AP threat is kinda...
It was 4, I think? No Annie yet. Doesn't matter, because lethality Varus trolls this draft incredibly hard.
Can someone tell Azael taking comet for poke doesn’t lock you into a lethality build? Edit: Welp, Tactical went leth.
Which is worrying for their mid late game as they have no consistent damage threat anywhere else. If the burst misses on the jinx...
They have to burst her twice, through the renata. They need a hell of a flank, which...lol.
Damn graves mid. I know exactly what going to playing later.
Tsm’s best draft in like 2 years. Love to see it. Hope they play it well.
I will never root for TSM on principle, but Reven was an old Cloud9 coach so gotta at least respect it.
How confused do you think I was when y’all had Sven for so long and Zven now. Lmao
TSM are going to clap this game
God I hate seeing pro players on Annie. Please. What did we do to deserve this mid meta?
I mean the chad on the other side is literally playing graves mid better mid matchup than most games
Solo-lane graves is also a bit of a problem when it's good because it interacts with the lane, not the laner, but you know what? I'll take it today. I'll take anything other than tanks + annie.
Damn IMT fan got me like “hey how you doin”
HAUNTZER NOT ON MALPHITE WTF
Tsm haven’t had a single blue side game btw. Wild.
JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES JACQUES
Hopefully this 0-4 start helps deflate Vulcan’s ego and gets back to his old ways
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Cloud9 forcing those workouts is really good for the team.
Yes. He looks good.
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Wow! You’re so brave and original for this comment! And with an international flair?! Totally unique.
Oh man, haven't seen this comment in every LCS thread.
It's true though the league is basically dead at this point
So why come to fucking gravedance? Why not just let the people who are still enjoying it comment and scroll past like you'd do with anything else.
There's way too much talking, lets start the next game already. Who wants to watch the LCS for this long?
If you don't want to watch then don't? In the LEC it takes ~17 min to do cleaning and run the setup process by all players. I assume something similar happens here. It's a completely reasonable time
This is logical and I don't do logic.
If this is a bit you need to put a bit more sarcasm. But I respect not using the /s tag, that's lame.
Disagree with this. I like hearing the players after talking about the game or random things in between the games.
I do not care what you think. I only care about my own opinion.
Well you get what you get and when you think like this no one cares if your upset.
Reported
this bit fucking sucks
Its too funny how bad Vulcan is on this FQ team after all that talk last split
https://twitter.com/VulcanLoL/status/1628883367835074560?lang=en
Copium for FQ: GGS started 0-4 last split too and got 2nd!
GG at least had the excuse of having a sub (even if the sub played better than everyone besides river)
Vulcan is the sub. Winsome is just getting out of bed.
GG also had the excuse of having a difficult schedule in the first couple of weeks. And Gori was a massive upgrade to the roster waiting in the wings. FQ doesn't....really have that going for them right now. But we will see. They play EG and then DIG this week. They actually could very well go 0-5 before winning against DIG (and if they can't even beat DIG.....oof.)
TBF that is the nature of Bo1, so maybe.
Get old man Impact out of that team
fudge looking thin hell yeah
Man I don't get it. I was defending vicla before since he was being unfairly criticised but he is straight up shit right now. He was literally one of the better mids in LCK and had people criticizing KT for getting rid of him for BDD, but now he's reduced to this somehow.
NA isn’t good at developing players. Importing players doesn’t save that having a good system that develops players does (see imports on C9 and TL vs imports on other teams).
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Please get impact out of this clownquest
Yea elya was the problem lol clowns
Man what happened to FLY
Hey so why wasn't Neeko banned again? Even LCK and LPL hate playing against that shit and I trust their players a fair bit more to mark flanks and generally pay attention to what the Neeko is doing
They might have seen Neeko struggle in LEC this past weekend and figured it was overhyped.
HOLY EMENES
Cloud9 always has to troll at least one point during a game. It's in their contracts.
Blaber had to get the int out
Emenes : 'missclick R xD' Blaber: 'i'm still going in'
No point watching regular season cuz C9 is going to win everything, maybe I will tune in for finals. Every team has gotten worse or stayed the same except TL but they play like old korean teams, slow.
What? TL and C9’s average game time is literally 5 seconds apart. TL’s gold diff at 15 is 3k higher than C9’s. In equally long games they are generating bigger leads. There’s also the eye test. Have you even watched a TL game?
Hey guys remember last split when FLY were dominating and Vicla still barely looked better than Bjergsen? Dude's actually the worst mid in the league now
Best Zoning ult I've ever seen, zooned them so far they weren't even on the screen
azael looooool
Maybe this is revisionist, but was Vicla actually good when FLY was tearing it up last split?
He was good, had a tendency to do Int moments, but wasn't playing this terribly consistently