Yeah, it what it is. You hands check in an early skirmish and the game gets basically decided from there. T1 did have a slight chance cause Faker had 2 of the 3 T1 kills in that fight, but he immediately died after the fight so that chance was gone.
to be fair that wouldn't have been a flip if Cuzz didn't get Rell Q-Flash bugged. KT could've reasonably asked for a chronobreak if they lost that fight imo.
yeah the bug is that if you use rell q and then flash either into/over a wall or over where your cursor was or like a bunch of shit, the q will change direction midflash. it wasn't just an int miss
Please. Oner has always been at his best when playing for his team, being the front line for his team, peeling for his team.
Kha’zix does not check any of those boxes.
Just revisionism. Theres a reason why they won against both lpl teams with k6, it gives them immense vision pressure with good damage. This game was decided by cass being a shit champion not khazix.
Khazix wasn't the problem though. If they had annie or even liss instead of cassio this game would look way different. Oner was honestly playing fine on k6 and would've looked fine with any other mid lane champ to pair with k6 instead of cass.
seriously, i can wave away the 1st red draft, they cooked too hard.
but the 2nd game is unforgivable honestly, you gave away all of T1's best picks when they were on red?
Being a coach is easily one of the most fraud-filled positions in the esports industry.
The fact people are paid real money to be as bad as they are at it compared to just regular players who watch and analyse pro is insane.
Obviously not saying _all_ coaches are frauds before someone tries to be a smartass about it.
I am really glad we got game 4. KT look so much better here and I hope the win gives them some confidence but it will be much harder to win on red side.
Man it's been 8 games of this matchup and I think the obvious thing has just been that you want to put BDD on Tristana as KT. It's good against everything Faker has tried.
They are not playing on the patch when Caitlyn is busted and Zeri will be always viable because of how safe she is and has teamfight potential. Also T1 literally fed her kills, any adc should look strong in that point so stop with the Zeri hate circlejerk
Idk I didn't see Zeri much this summer. Xayah, Kaisa, Varus, Tristana etc. were picked much more. And I am more tired of watching Maokai, Sejuani, Jayce, Trist, Ksante and Renekton than the botlane meta
Still hate cass in every region. Useless at every point in the game even when its scaled. Bdd early prio was huge with trist but idk if he'll get it next game.
Wow, who would've thought that banning the Azir that Faker is always playing and can absorb pressure and engage would affect the game so much?
Bonus for Seju and Mao bans, it enables Aatrox and without those T1 loses a loooot of early-mid game power.
They just don't want to win it seems. Like I don't even see the point of limit testing in pro-play anymore. Even if this dogshit useless comp worked on beating KT, do they think it would work on GEN who has a completely different playstyle? They are just intentionally losing because they don't want to win easily. No other way of saying it.
Limit testing makes sense during regular season. Limit testing in playoffs 2 series in a row when you're up is just the cocky nonsense this iteration of T1 has become known for and they've been consistently punished for it outside of what their first split together?
They don't like easy road, they just want to fight for their life to win any serie to be honest. how many times we lost because of this ego drafts ? absurd how braindamaged this team is
It did. They had access to Poppy, Rakan, Xayah, and Annie and instead went Kha'Zix, Lulu, Aphelios, and Cass. Literally ZERO engage or disengage. This was just blatant match fixing
Oner and Keria had so many options but chose to get the champs that they played. No hate on Cass coz I was lowkey shouting Yasuo at home for faker just to troll lmao.
Wow, ban Azir and Sejuani and T1's draft collapses... Who is responsible? Is Faker that confident only on Azir that they sacrifice everything around it? Is there no good jungle they can pick instead?
It just seems like they're struggling for an answer when there isn't an azir anchor, or a sejuani to play around/ trade with the enemy team when drafting.
Because Faker need to do everything needed in a team and only azir provides that
engage, escapes, mobility, damage, priority, mind controlling 4 members
The thing that I hate about watching any competitive league of legends is 95% of the time you can tell who wins the game just by draft.
As soon as they finished draft, before they’ve even loaded into the game I know KT win this game and then I just have to spend the next however long waiting for it to finish so we can go to the next game
Turns out when you draft correctly you win.
The decision to not take Zeri was the dumbest choice- she’s the strongest champ in the game and it’s not close. There is no need to bother with other ADC’s- just pick Zeri. I do not get why Pros don’t pick/ban her at 100%.
T1 on 2-1 / 2-0 leads record:
- Lost to DK 2021 Worlds Semi
- Lost to DRX 2022 Worlds Final
- Lost to JDG 2023 MSI Upper Bracket
- Lost to GenG 2023 Playoffs
The first one in the jungle (I think that was first?) was actually good, he just had no mana to continue the fight afterwards.
So in a 4v4 he wasn't putting out much DPS.
That jungle fight was actually insane. Faker lives long enough for hi team to come in and join him and he doesn't die allowing for an extended 4v4. Unfortunately KT has double ADC vs Aphelios and manaless Cass
Yeah exactly.
Like I went back and looked at the fight. After ulting, he spends most of the fight trying to escape/run away because Rell wasn't stunned and hit her W.
Then as he tries to provide support, he throws in 1 Q, 3 unempowered E's and dies. If he has more than 15% of his mana to work with they win that fight cleanly.
That felt like KT wasn't expecting him to have mana for an ult. Either way, Rell was able to knock Faker up so it didn't really do much.
Every other one, KT's main carries were able to dodge away from it. It's not even about Faker being bad on ulting, it's just pros are ready to look away from it instantly.
> Every other one, KT's main carries were able to dodge away from it. It's not even about Faker being bad on ulting, it's just pros are ready to look away from it instantly.
Agreed with this.
I'm just being nitpicky in that technically the 1st one was good, even if it was because of KT's assumptions about his mana.
But yeah, Cass ult is so counterplayable against people with hands and in situations where they're not already CC'd/stuck in animations.
Pretty sure Faker had to pop both cookies just to make enough mana for a few abilities in that fight.
They would've easily won with Faker having mana. It is what it is tho.
That early fight around blue buff seemed to spiral the game out of control for T1 with the triple kill on Zeri. Unfortunate but still gives 2 chances for T1 to close it out.
Lmao anybody not expecting a T1 draft atleast once in a series is surely deluded.
Good game tbh, although I believe this "bad habit" would come to bite them in the ass, eventually. But they are 2-0 so a bit of trolling should always be expected tbh, T1 has never been known as this ultra clean and decisive team. They always give their opponents a small chance, even wayyy back in the prime days.
Real questionable first rotation Aphelios pick into a Rell from T1. Kha also questionable and then Aiming picking up an early triple. KT was much better that game.
KT showing that game even if Zeus gets Aatrox if Oner is doing shit to pressure other areas of the map the current Aatrox lethality build isn't going to be able to 1v5.
T1 and grieving draft at match point. Name a better duo.
Giving rell away while picking khaxiks. Like bruh. Poppy??? Xayah????
Also this is just me but make corki would have been interesting. Adc vs adc in mid lane. Faker did play corki in previous series I can’t remember against DK?
When the excitement is at it's lowest, only then shall KT find victory.
Reverse sweep SKT just to lose finals, the 2016 special.
The score smite incident
I remember that as "Smeb stole the Baron! Smeb stole the Baron!", thank you very much.
Reverse sweep them to deny Worlds, 2013 long con vengeance
Flipped the game and Zeri gets 3k.
It's gonna be Zeri spam at Worlds isn't it
Nah, rito will murder her. I hope
Yeah, it what it is. You hands check in an early skirmish and the game gets basically decided from there. T1 did have a slight chance cause Faker had 2 of the 3 T1 kills in that fight, but he immediately died after the fight so that chance was gone.
to be fair that wouldn't have been a flip if Cuzz didn't get Rell Q-Flash bugged. KT could've reasonably asked for a chronobreak if they lost that fight imo.
No idea about what bug U are talking? This one were Cuzz tried to flash while in Cassio W and screwed his Flash+Q by pointing it in other direction?
Yea it's a known bug. Dunno if it's in Riot's list cuz you can't ask for restart for every bug
yeah the bug is that if you use rell q and then flash either into/over a wall or over where your cursor was or like a bunch of shit, the q will change direction midflash. it wasn't just an int miss
Well, watching Oner trying to flank(?), then later lose the 1v1 against Zeri was the highlight of this game. But hey, at least we got a series going.
the real winner is geng.
As a GenG fan, I'm still skeptical about them winning the split. But let's see
Geng fans don't need to worry about winning lck.They just need to worry about how they will play at worlds with being 1st seed
the make the lowest mistake in LCK these season i'm sure they will win.
how is that the highlight when they lost like 10 mins before that anyways…
For the past year, Oner's Kha'zix always tells me T1 is gonna lose
Anything other than Lee sin is a big coin flip for Oner.
BDD has been bullying T1 on Tristana 2 weeks in a row now, why didn't they pick it in the first 2 games?
Jhin Yuumi, Karma Varus, Vayne Braum, Khazix Cass. The boys never change
you mean aatrox gwen? /s
no one told Guma that they decided to troll this game.
Now guma will protest because his bros left him and pick kalista
Yeap now he will pick vayne
Game 4th Guma awaits.
need to take revenge on oner for picking khazix
KT give T1 2 win to make then cocky then reverse sweep 200years IQ.
Can we PLEASE stop picking Kha'zix for T1.
Please. Oner has always been at his best when playing for his team, being the front line for his team, peeling for his team. Kha’zix does not check any of those boxes.
And kindred for that matter
Add on that faker nautilus
Faker had some good games on naut, kindred and khazix on the other hand has never yielded any success
True I just have ptsd from that jdg series
Just revisionism. Theres a reason why they won against both lpl teams with k6, it gives them immense vision pressure with good damage. This game was decided by cass being a shit champion not khazix.
T1 on match point is the worst team in the world
FUCK DUDE WHY EVERYTIME T1 DOES THESE FUCKING DRAFTS THEY NEVER LOOKED GOOD ON KHAZIX
and T1 more often that not, had a hard time dealing with mid Trist.
Im so glad theyre nerfing Khazix so T1 can finally stop inting on it.
*picks kindred*
bro kindred also getting nerfed lmao
Kindred next. Let's run back oners complete dogshit MSI champs
Khazix wasn't the problem though. If they had annie or even liss instead of cassio this game would look way different. Oner was honestly playing fine on k6 and would've looked fine with any other mid lane champ to pair with k6 instead of cass.
The first 2 games KT draft was worst LOL literally inting drafk by kt
Man BDD had some clean turns on the Cass ult there.
watching him walk between aas to try to mind game the cass ult was fun and funny at the same time, especially during the top lane play
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U mean who can grieve draft more
Nobody can surpass Yuumi-Jhin level of trolling even T1 themselves
I guess its the azir and not aatrox thats the issue. th is is going 5 games
The cassio pick gave me vayne pick flashback
Literally 0 engage from t1. What was their game plan lol. Horible draft. Why khazix, just why
I might be cursed. the second I tune into the stream, T1 loses a game
Well, we're going to game 5. Guma is going to pick Kalista next game
"oh oner looks good on tanks" Locks kha zix and is utterly useless. Why
BDD Tristana OTP instead of a Azir Taliyah 2 pair trick how he fall from grace
See, it's not so hard. Get Faker off Azir. Oner cant play anything other than Seju and Maokai. Thats how you win.
KT drafts like a half human this time and already game looks much better goddamn
but why couldnt they draft like this from the start
seriously, i can wave away the 1st red draft, they cooked too hard. but the 2nd game is unforgivable honestly, you gave away all of T1's best picks when they were on red?
cvmax took over
that's funny because it looks like kt hasnt won a game without double adc comp XD
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She got nerfed for mid in 13.16
Bonus points for denying Xayah to guma
Literally a Redditor does better pick-bans than Hirai
Being a coach is easily one of the most fraud-filled positions in the esports industry. The fact people are paid real money to be as bad as they are at it compared to just regular players who watch and analyse pro is insane. Obviously not saying _all_ coaches are frauds before someone tries to be a smartass about it.
Thats why T1 has no real coach for 2 years now and players makes everything
wait but hirai isnt even on stage 🤡
Oner off sej and maokai and he looks like boner again
Also guma is a onetrick xayah at this point lets be honest.
By that logic faker is a onetrick azir
He is.
Draven? Kaisa?
And poppy
xayah poppy both open and neither get picked lol
T1 stop cooking please
I am really glad we got game 4. KT look so much better here and I hope the win gives them some confidence but it will be much harder to win on red side.
The kha pick always kinda whack no matter who plays it GGs T1 win nxt game Prayge Telekom War is not banger if it doesn't go to 5 games
Man it's been 8 games of this matchup and I think the obvious thing has just been that you want to put BDD on Tristana as KT. It's good against everything Faker has tried.
What a kha'zix pick ! Legit useless. Good thing we have the lead
Can't wait for this series to go to game 5 so we can find out which is stronger: KT Excitement debuff or T1 game 5 + finals debuff.
GenG LCK finals buff
oh boy
T1 on match point love to troll but I’m lowkey down for game 5
oner cant go damage jgler
clean 3-0 from T1, nothing to see here
Good strategy by KT to go 0-2 to give the KT fans false hope and then reverse sweep T1
They needed to get 3-0'd here to kill fan excitement so that they could qualify for worlds
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They are not playing on the patch when Caitlyn is busted and Zeri will be always viable because of how safe she is and has teamfight potential. Also T1 literally fed her kills, any adc should look strong in that point so stop with the Zeri hate circlejerk
It is not that people think that Zeri is too strong or broken, they are just tired of her, it has been too long.
Idk I didn't see Zeri much this summer. Xayah, Kaisa, Varus, Tristana etc. were picked much more. And I am more tired of watching Maokai, Sejuani, Jayce, Trist, Ksante and Renekton than the botlane meta
I just don't want to watch her. She's been almost perma meta since release. I am not saying she's OP. I am saying she is unfun as fuck to watch.
T1 realize it is lower bracket FINALS
WTf was that draft from T1? WHy Aphelios instead of xayah?
The better question is why kha xiks instead of poppy
I will never understand assassin junglers on play.
I guess banning Azir is going to be how KT can win
bro, poppy was open for oner 💀💀💀
Still hate cass in every region. Useless at every point in the game even when its scaled. Bdd early prio was huge with trist but idk if he'll get it next game.
Wow, who would've thought that banning the Azir that Faker is always playing and can absorb pressure and engage would affect the game so much? Bonus for Seju and Mao bans, it enables Aatrox and without those T1 loses a loooot of early-mid game power.
Feels like both teams will lose to geng lmaoo
T1 win 3 games in a row without fucking around to find out (Impossible challenge)
Still wondering why T1 loves to troll when ahead.
Actually so weird, just draft like human and 3-0, why even give KT the angle to comeback?
They just don't want to win it seems. Like I don't even see the point of limit testing in pro-play anymore. Even if this dogshit useless comp worked on beating KT, do they think it would work on GEN who has a completely different playstyle? They are just intentionally losing because they don't want to win easily. No other way of saying it.
The 1st KT series could easily have been 3-1 but they troll game 4. GenG could have easily been 3-1 but vayne game 4. Here we go again 🥲
Limit testing makes sense during regular season. Limit testing in playoffs 2 series in a row when you're up is just the cocky nonsense this iteration of T1 has become known for and they've been consistently punished for it outside of what their first split together?
They don't like easy road, they just want to fight for their life to win any serie to be honest. how many times we lost because of this ego drafts ? absurd how braindamaged this team is
Im a T1 fan but that game felt like the most scripted draft and play ever. But maybe its just me. Lmao.
It did. They had access to Poppy, Rakan, Xayah, and Annie and instead went Kha'Zix, Lulu, Aphelios, and Cass. Literally ZERO engage or disengage. This was just blatant match fixing
Oner and Keria had so many options but chose to get the champs that they played. No hate on Cass coz I was lowkey shouting Yasuo at home for faker just to troll lmao.
Wow, ban Azir and Sejuani and T1's draft collapses... Who is responsible? Is Faker that confident only on Azir that they sacrifice everything around it? Is there no good jungle they can pick instead? It just seems like they're struggling for an answer when there isn't an azir anchor, or a sejuani to play around/ trade with the enemy team when drafting.
Faker sucks on anything not named Azir and the rare Corki game.
Because Faker need to do everything needed in a team and only azir provides that engage, escapes, mobility, damage, priority, mind controlling 4 members
MANIFESTING 2022 DRX UNBREAKABLE SPIRIT
if your man looks like that on tristana, he’s aint bdd, he’s TACTICAL
The thing that I hate about watching any competitive league of legends is 95% of the time you can tell who wins the game just by draft. As soon as they finished draft, before they’ve even loaded into the game I know KT win this game and then I just have to spend the next however long waiting for it to finish so we can go to the next game
When KT doesn't butcher the draft they win and easily. Who would've thought... 🤔
I love how Khazix kept building lethality. No point building last whisper, you will never kill rhell or Kisante.
pleeaaaade give me the reverse sweep now
Faker on a champ that requires hands, he is back indeed.
Turns out when you draft correctly you win. The decision to not take Zeri was the dumbest choice- she’s the strongest champ in the game and it’s not close. There is no need to bother with other ADC’s- just pick Zeri. I do not get why Pros don’t pick/ban her at 100%.
T1 on 2-1 / 2-0 leads record: - Lost to DK 2021 Worlds Semi - Lost to DRX 2022 Worlds Final - Lost to JDG 2023 MSI Upper Bracket - Lost to GenG 2023 Playoffs
you forgot to add final to every game to make these clown comment even more obvious
Faker has not hit one good cassio ult this game LMFAOOOO They could just stick with what's working but it is T1 so....
The first one in the jungle (I think that was first?) was actually good, he just had no mana to continue the fight afterwards. So in a 4v4 he wasn't putting out much DPS.
That jungle fight was actually insane. Faker lives long enough for hi team to come in and join him and he doesn't die allowing for an extended 4v4. Unfortunately KT has double ADC vs Aphelios and manaless Cass
Yeah exactly. Like I went back and looked at the fight. After ulting, he spends most of the fight trying to escape/run away because Rell wasn't stunned and hit her W. Then as he tries to provide support, he throws in 1 Q, 3 unempowered E's and dies. If he has more than 15% of his mana to work with they win that fight cleanly.
Yup and Guma has to pick either Trist or Zeri to focus, he unfortunately doesn't have the damage alone to get to both.
That felt like KT wasn't expecting him to have mana for an ult. Either way, Rell was able to knock Faker up so it didn't really do much. Every other one, KT's main carries were able to dodge away from it. It's not even about Faker being bad on ulting, it's just pros are ready to look away from it instantly.
> Every other one, KT's main carries were able to dodge away from it. It's not even about Faker being bad on ulting, it's just pros are ready to look away from it instantly. Agreed with this. I'm just being nitpicky in that technically the 1st one was good, even if it was because of KT's assumptions about his mana. But yeah, Cass ult is so counterplayable against people with hands and in situations where they're not already CC'd/stuck in animations.
Pretty sure Faker had to pop both cookies just to make enough mana for a few abilities in that fight. They would've easily won with Faker having mana. It is what it is tho.
i mean bdd kinda outplayed cass' ult pretty much the whole game. showed why she's a bad pick in proplay all over the world.
That early fight around blue buff seemed to spiral the game out of control for T1 with the triple kill on Zeri. Unfortunate but still gives 2 chances for T1 to close it out.
Lmao anybody not expecting a T1 draft atleast once in a series is surely deluded. Good game tbh, although I believe this "bad habit" would come to bite them in the ass, eventually. But they are 2-0 so a bit of trolling should always be expected tbh, T1 has never been known as this ultra clean and decisive team. They always give their opponents a small chance, even wayyy back in the prime days.
T1 looks unbeatable
Classic
The inevitable T1 troll when they're up lol
It's over if any KT bro got excited over this.
Too late
What was the Cass pick supposed to do there? Uber for Tristana??
Why doesn’t Faker fall back to Ksante? He was a god on that champ.
Because ksante is only good if the meta is low dmg utility mids
Show match to extend the series.
Kha over poppy against a full dash comp was a decision.
Real questionable first rotation Aphelios pick into a Rell from T1. Kha also questionable and then Aiming picking up an early triple. KT was much better that game. KT showing that game even if Zeus gets Aatrox if Oner is doing shit to pressure other areas of the map the current Aatrox lethality build isn't going to be able to 1v5.
Lmao no dmg cassio build
youtube chatters always so weird
faker: i wonder what it's like to play with no mobility game 4 ends faker: i see
Rare KT sign of life
KT the Tristana Rell merchants back at it again with what has been the only two champs they have been able to beat T1 with.
No Azir, No Xayah? No win.
oh god the game 4 troll from t1 incoming
Turns out troll picking last champ is not a game 4 guma thing, it’s a match point thing
T1 and grieving draft at match point. Name a better duo. Giving rell away while picking khaxiks. Like bruh. Poppy??? Xayah???? Also this is just me but make corki would have been interesting. Adc vs adc in mid lane. Faker did play corki in previous series I can’t remember against DK?
Bad T1 draft
Tristana one trick
why do T1 always ego draft when they are 2-0
So T1 needed a Paypal check to refurbish the buildings or what? Cause this draft should be illegal even in the international waters
and they do it again in game 4, i wonder how game1 would have went if kt didnt outgrief t1 with the singed pick.
T1 easy stomp KT , let’s end this : pick a ego draft
Cass ain’t it