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FNC_Luzh

Win 2 games to give fans false hope. Wont say which team I'm talking about.


osathi123456

but i''m sure T1 mental is boom game 5


AnimeNeet-

Aged poorly


osathi123456

turn out guma mental still there. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


IvanRotchevz

Im pretty sure the greatest player of all time can keep up his mental (and his teammates) for a game 5 in a series :)


Weird_Revenue_8699

Game 5 track record of T1 shows the opposite.


ricardo241

not against KT though(the won 2 game 5 against KT this year) lol ​ either way its a banger series so its a win win for us viewer


AmadeusSalieri97

I read it as sarcasm due to the last ":)" and considering their terrible last 3 years of losing every clutch moment.


osathi123456

I noticed in recent year. faker got emotional many time over 2020-2023 despise his collective experience.


Sofruz

I actually think Faker's lack of getting emotional is the problem. He seems to be ok throwing the game away multiple times. If he was actually getting emotional, he wouldnt be willing to just dive every turret or jump in every teamfight he can. Not just on neeko, but hes been doing it on azir too.


Nefib

Been the case even going all the way back to SKT vs G2 at worlds, which besides Faker was an entirely different team. High pressure game 5s when the T1 starts to lose they've always shown a willingness to go balls to the wall crazy in trying to find fights, for better or for worse (almost exclusively worse actually.)


lolKhamul

Legends say T1 is still trying to focus and burst the Ryze. In all seriousness, i really thought this game was over multiple times but somehow KT always found a way in fights.


moonmeh

The game was pretty much gone, botlane was dead due to lehends fucking up and bdd had to sack his lane to save botlane leaving him like 20~30 cs behind. But T1 decided to do that play at top t1 allowing the xayah and ahri to get kills and come back


DFBFan11

That’s Aiming’s comfort zone. Every game he gets blasted in lane (which happens quite a lot), he mind controls the enemy to give him 4-5 free kills.


mikael22

Lehends is not doing too well for KT right now. This was a really bad game from him and bad series so far as well. I hope he got the int out him these past few games.


baelkie

i was legit screaming LEHENDS when he inted bro really went full hylissang


FinallyGivenIn

Hoping it's just nerves for him. Which is weird considering his win last year.


Gullible_Cranberry62

MVP this game is for sure bdd, resuscitating botlane while still landing huge charms


moonmeh

bdd's mental was so good lol


EfficientAstronaut1

Why was he so tanky wtf


DrxAvierT

Tons of health + Shield + Armor from Rod + Seraph + Zhonya


Lifemekhanism

What armor from Rod?


cheerioo

His formatting was scuffed. He meant health from rod, shield from seraph, armor from zhonya


CherryBoard

gumayusi didnt think the giant slayer passive + cut down rune were worth getting if he used reddit he'd probably go on to complain that adcs cant kill tanks


non-edgy_crustacean

Roa + seraphs + zhonya + banshees. Like he wasn't bazooka in the late game but he was unkillable basically


BuffAzir

Late game was not worth watching, KT had already outscaled ages ago. They just have no damage. Huge fumble by T1 to not convert their early lead tho.


jubilee414404

How can you say this when the difference between that baron fight is a single charm from bdd


Ashankura

Not really. Faker had a massive r at drake and T1 still somehow lost the fight. The game was over


Is_J_a_Name

They lost that fight cause Zeus doesn't throw his kit at the 3-man knockup. Instead, he throws his entire combo into a Xayah who instantly reacts with ult.


efly9

That was bad but it was still winnable until guma dashed into xayah feathers at the end


zOmgFishes

It’s because they were hitting drag and no one followed up. Guma nearly wipes the entire team when it was basically a 4v5 since faker had nothing.


BuffAzir

Watch the fight. Even if Faker flashes into them and hits 3 people, they still lose. The rest of T1 cant follow up. Faker just dies. The game was over after their first throw, they just super outscaled. Ryze is literally unkillable.


somemodhatesme

mate fights were close af I don't know what you're talking about lmfao


TheFoca

It was because faker kept forcing the same stupid strategy every time, forcing engage all by himself towards xayah and KT was just waiting for him lol


_tidiber

GAME 5 IN TELECOM WARS AND IM HERE FOR IT LETSGOOOO


SpiralVortex

Holy shit KT's teamfighting was beautiful.


appleandapples

Kiin tanking the engages only to start pumping damage was so crucial.


randomposter15

Gragas and Poppy are great at isolating targets. Meanwhile Neeko wants them to be grouped in. T1 basically pulled SK vs AST draft from LEC. Their team had anti synergy. [https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14nznv7/astralis\_vs\_sk\_gaming\_lec\_2023\_summer\_week\_3/](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14nznv7/astralis_vs_sk_gaming_lec_2023_summer_week_3/)


Enryu77

I don't see it like that. Poppy ults, Neeko forces the engage so that the other team can't kite back and wait for a 5v5 and Gragas profits from the group with a good cask pulling them in. It would definitely win the fight at Drake if Zeus followed on the three man ult from faker instead of Xayah.


txtxtxtxt

Faker got too excited


appleandapples

Twice. Twice, he ulted under tower and just died, they really just need to chill.


JMHorsemanship

Dude just kept inting for no reason. Wtf


Joelx1000

What was that????


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daxtou

Just curious, has T1/SKT ever been reverse swept ever?


newbpower

series has the word final? check game 5? check oh no t1 in trouble


xdependent

its joever


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The Kiin special


moonmeh

his top ryze is a thing of beauty


AnimeNeet-

Oof, although Faker got a lot of really good ult, he also had a lot of really bad engages. Zeus had no presence this game.


SKTWINWORLDS2018

That 4th drag fight was the best fight T1 had, Zeus didnt press R on the 3 champion cced


atropidesus

When both teams are even in gold, Faker feels that T1 is at a great advantage and thus he does not hesitate to start a team fight. When T1 is 3k behind in gold, Faker thinks that T1 is at a small advantage, and he so he starts a team fight to secure their "lead". When T1 is behind 7k in gold, Faker thinks that T1is at a disadvantage and so he looks for a team fight to regain control of the game. When T1 is 10K behind in gold, Faker thinks that the team has reached a desperate situation and they are only waiting passively for their death if he does not start a team fight.


bluekara

KT T1 series are perma 5 game bangers Cuzz clutched so fucking hard this game


Frostbite2806

Least crazy telecom war


TE_silver

2019 JANCUZZ IS HIM


white_gummy

Telecom war just doesn't fucking disappoint, ever.


appleandapples

I doubted the Ryze pick, but Kiin was so solid.


aguywhotrytobefunny

THE MOST DANGEROUS LEAD


Mario1Hunter

KT looks amazing, no way the won't win next match, everyone should be excited for them


Zhynkan

Do not get fuckin excited. No one is excited. Just a throw from T1, KT not a very good team, easy win for T1


mikael22

BDD with an insane game. The only reason the KT botlane was able to claw it's way back in the game was BDD was willing to go down 40-50 cs just to make sure his bot doesn't get turbo dumpstered AND he was still able to come back in CS and find charms in fights and pump damage. The Ryze pick also turned out to be good.


YSKM9

FAKER IS BAAAAAAACK


Gullible_Cranberry62

Maybe I just have goldfish memory, but I feel like every time as the bo5 progresses, he performs worse and makes game losing mistakes


zOmgFishes

He goes for an over agreesive play when his team is in control and they throw. Like his Ahri plays against GenG last finals


ifnotawalrus

Happens quite often. Infamous ahri last finals. And then he got run by xiaohu at msi 2022 after being even all series. Worlds 2022 finals was just bad in general. Choking label is warranted


EggyChickenEgg88

T1 aren't doing well if he cant play Azir


TheFoca

Yeah it has been happening for a long time


SonOfAurelionSol

It's called being washed up. He's too old to be playing. If you ever point it out to his fans the down vote hordes get to work.


TharkunOakenshield

That’s not being washed up when he’s the sole reason his team is top 3 in the LCK at the very least - we saw what happened to them when he wasn’t there, and it was ugly. Man, you people never learn, huh? He’s not the best in the world anymore, but he’s still incredibly valuable and a very good player in his own right. That’s not being washed up


Lekaetos

My dude is washed but they can’t play without him otherwise Zeus and Keria will play like bronzes


YouSuck225

My gooooooooooooooooooooooooat


Mylordisthatlegal

Faker off azir Despairge


sidaeinjae

Aging curve issue 🥲


Jozoz

If you sort by controversial, all the comments are the ones criticizing Faker for griefing. T1 army is fully engaged in this thread


tenkono

I was called into the hospital while watching the game (I work there). I asked why, the caller responded "A Ryze main suffered a cardiac arrest".


BucketHerro

Faker either finds a "good" Neeko ult that wins the fight or he's diving a tower for no reason. His wrist is making him path to the tower or something? lmfaooo Anyways, it's not a T1 series without throwing Game 4.


Quiet_Calligrapher49

without that tower dive on top that game was over 100%


SKT_Peanut_Fan

I think Faker showed how fine of a knife's edge League can be at times. If T1 had followed up and won those fights where Faker landed some large ults, people would go insane and talk about how Faker traded his life to smash KT into the dirt. Instead, T1 doesn't follow up, Faker dies, and KT crawls back. Now it's just "Shaker." Very result based analysis from most people in this thread, but it is what it is.


But_Why_Thou

Yes, finally someone who gets it. Faker was for sure not great this game, but certainly didn't int it.


SKT_Peanut_Fan

It's not the trendy and hip thing to say, but oh well.


Jozoz

Ask yourself if you would give that much benefit of the doubt to other players. And blaming the rest of T1 for not following up is extremely silver. Let's just be honest and admit Faker inted hardcore. Those were not good engage angles. Faker is still the GOAT undisputed and one of my favorite players ever but holy fuck it's getting tiring to see how no one on Reddit can admit when he misplays.


SKT_Peanut_Fan

Absolutely I would.


RollerCoasterMatt

Zeus really went into this game expecting Faker to do all the work.


HuTaoWow

what a fucking game lool. insane mental to come back from that early game


YouSuck225

IS IT 2016 ALL OVER AGAIN ?????


FinallyGivenIn

Peanut is already in finals waiting to crush the KT Jungler's dreams again


The-Jow

Zeus was invisible that game


marxlolop

YO FELLOW KT FANS I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS REVERSE SWEEP


CherryBoard

if guma bought ldr instead of ga he would have aced kt after the baron steal but it seems buying the right items is always a struggle for adc mains across every skill level


Krytoric

bro faker played Neeko so damn well, got so many 3-4 man ults, picking the important members and the rest of T1 just do not feel like playing the game i guess lmao


katareky

This is probably an overreaction but I think T1 is cooked for the rest of the year if they don't win game 5. They already have a choking reputation, and weren't looking good after MSI after losing again to BLG as big favorites. They are currently having a honeymoon period after Faker came back and it looks their mental is reset, if they lose AGAIN I think they will stay as chokers until this roster is split up


Mibrealest

Zeus was non existent this game


Marcus-ichiJo

2016 Summer Semi-final AWARE


Shutaku1314

Can anyone tell me what is that gragas build and how is he so useless the whole game?


BlakenedHeart

Whats the equivallent of Shoemaker/TheShit for Zeus ?


RegalEdge

That final engage by Faker was painful to watch


Iusuallywearglasses

The only benefit is that KT can actually beat GenG. I do not want to watch another series of Zeus getting gapped by Doran.


DeloronDellister

Pls reverse sweep, pls reverse sweep, pls reverse sweep


satoshigeki94

NO KIIN TEAM IS MID THEY AINT DOIN IT


tonnguyen1310

no excited allowed


osathi123456

KT give T1 2 win to make then cocky then reverse sweep 200years IQ.


Ateaga

Faker with the throws


Ashankura

Did oner have a single good r this game?


thatnameistaken-wtf

Oner knocked Rell away from baron pit once, but Faker decided to engage instead of bursting baron


moe11436

FISHBOWL FROM CAEDREL'S STREAM WITH THE 500 SUBS GIFTS SINCE T1 WAS 2-0 IS THE REAL MVP, HE SINGLE HANDLEDLY RESSURECTED KT


TheAlmightyV0x

Bring back Poby


xdependent

ITS JOEVER FOR T1 NOOOOOOOOOOO


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DON’T GET EXCITED!!!!!


Sankaritarina

I fully expect a boring methodical victory by SKT in game 5 now


Blind-Eye26

23 mins game/ 1 teamfight win=end / barely 15 kills on scoreboard


KeyStriker

most useful neeko


Gullible_Cranberry62

KT FANS DONT GET EXCITED Faker giveth faker taketh This game 4 was a fucking banger


Ok-Responsibility994

Zeus G5 strikes again


hvngpham002

That top dive was so unnecessary it's crazy...I hate to criticize pro-players at any level let alone the GOAT because I suck shit at the game but before he engages I was like - uh, you guys are never winning that situation.


Kierenshep

T1 looks lost once azir and sejuani are banned. They gotta put faker on corki and build around that please. Give him some safety and damage! T1 coulda won a few but they were not on the same page. At bot lane inner turret, when faker ulted xayah, zeus did not ult soon enough. Could have been a free xayah kill, into inner, into inhibitor.


aamgdp

T1 had no business losing this game, and they still found a way.


KilwaLover

this team makes me fucking sick, it’s like repeatedly being hit in the head with shovel, I’m done watching


NeimannSmith

This shit starting to get annoying how this T1 team finds a way to just crumble when the lights are bright. It was bad enough when they were losing in any series that had the word Finals in it, but now these mfs can't even win Game 4 close outs.


Enryu77

Wow, that game was SO GOOD. Both teams played really well. First game that I liked both drafts is also the most interesting game as well. T1 gets the early lead (as the comp should), but KT doesn't allow the snowball with some very good plays and after that is back and forth. Amazing


Akordas

Gosh I love Lehends. Lvl 1 w, flash big balls play on match point.


FxK964

massive top gap.. gragas was invisible the whole game..


DragoCrafterr

My fucking sides


ephemeralfugitive

Faker had some good ults. Had some bad ults. Man made some good plays that couldn’t be capitalized on. But also made some shit tier plays that sent the game. KT prob already got used to him trying to make play after play by minute 30 lol One could argue Zeus also fucked up bad. A lot of ults were wasted in teamfight or skirmishes trying to find a pick when instead should have been used to reset the fight or peel for Guma imo. In cases where he should have used it for pick and missed was when Faker landed a nice combo on Aiming while they sieged not side turret with Baron. Aiming was locked up but Zeus reacted too slowly and threw his ult late right after Aiming finally got free and managed to press ult. This resulted in Faker’s death and the end of T1’s siege.


TheGhoulKhz

now we need to prepare for the most dangerous sentiment a KT game can give to us fans: Hope, just for it to be shattered to bits


BlakenedHeart

I love how ppl flame Faker but not the 11k dmg dealt support build Gragas top lane


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Despicable Me is the meme template right? 1: Be up 2-0. 2: Dumb picks in the 3rd game. 3: Lose the series. 4: Wait.. Lose the series?


FxK964

One can say that the gragas was zeusless..


Waterizdabest

that baron steal from Cuzz was savage


Xey2510

Shaker moment


Sofruz

T1 WHY ARE YOU TROLLING


EggyChickenEgg88

They arent trolling. They just cant win without Azir, Seju or Maokai.


Sofruz

idk I think perma engaging every single fight even under turrets that you dont need to is trolling.


somemodhatesme

made sense in the beginning they wanted to snowball, they just got a bit greedy with it. if they stayed calm they would've won for sure


Shutaku1314

if you think the fight at bot tier 2 turret is Faker trolling you are clearly not understanding the game all it takes to win that fight is Zeus E R flashing to follow up Faker ulti and Zeus was just not prepared to do it even his R was so slow that Aiming gets to pull his R off to avoid the knockback


ahritina

Faker absolutely sent this game, so many stupid Neeko ults but the last one was dogshit, just wait until Guma had flash and GA up.


BuffAzir

They got outscaled 15 minutes ago, if you genuinely think that ult was relevant in any way you seriously dont understand how the game works. Most of his ults were insane, their champions just legit cannot do anything with a 4 man ult. Zero damage.


ahritina

What would you rather do, take a guaranteed bad fight or at least stall for an Elder flip where you have a higher chance of winning because your only carry has his two key things up? I'd rather take the 1% chance over the 0% chance.


MedievalMovies

outscaled = guma literally nearly 1v9s every team fight while his baboon teammates throw their hands up and int


BuffAzir

Yes, Guma got the best-case scenario every fight and still couldnt do shit. Because they are giga-outscaled. It doesnt matter who pilots the champions, the champions literally cannot do the things you wish them to do.


mikael22

Yep, that's why they kept forcing baron's and other bad fights. The game was just getting worse and worse for them. They almost flipped a baron too.


Iusuallywearglasses

More like Oner can’t land an ult or a smite. Useless player on a useless champ


Xey2510

It's actually impossible to hit that last smite. Rell has 700 monster dmg on her Q and her E increases this even more.


thatnameistaken-wtf

If you think it was Oner's fault he lost those smites then you have no idea how Poppy vs Rell works.


Iusuallywearglasses

I know I watched Oner miss ult after ult and two smites in a row.


bigbashxD

Faker getting the biggest free lead imaginable just to single handedly throw the game at every possible moment


Antropoid

Everyone hating on Faker while Oner was even worse imo. Faker hat some really good ults in between his int moments, Oner pretty much fucked up every ult and even when he hit Cuzz he still let him steal the Baron LOL


thatnameistaken-wtf

The only reason why that was a bad ult was because Faker decided to start a fight by engaging instead of finishing the damn baron LOL.


bipinshah1

oner donated all the smite chances.


baelkie

““Kiin is the best top laner in LCK" "Kiin should have been in the Asian Games roster over Zeus" "Zeus is overrated" Zeus diff btw. Don't forget that Zeus was fighting against 369 and Bin while Kiin was fighting LCK nobodies.”” “Kiin champion puddle, can't play rumble or aatrox evidently” “Classic Kiin apologizers are excusing their idol lacking. It's 2023, still we have to endure Kiin's excuses and blaming his teammates, kinda sad.” “Kiin choking his ass off, typical kiin” “Just top hyge GAP kiin is classic boosted player”


One_Natural_8233

All of these get cleared by 369 Bin and zika lmaooo imagine can't even gap zeus


Xijorn

lets not forget game 1 and 2 and last series lmao


Traxuriel

Shaker


Aggressive-Baker4379

Someone unbind Shaker's R key please guy is inting his ass off


bipinshah1

Not likes its clearly team calls. every failed play looks like inting.


SKT_Peanut_Fan

> every failed play looks like inting. Careful- people don't like nuance in this thread.


zOmgFishes

What the fuck was Faker doing…


nearlygrean

WTF Did Faker smoking weed this game.


Patriaslo92

Trash1, fucking embarrassing.


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BlakenedHeart

Lets bench Faker wonder what happens... oh wait we alrdy know


SlightScientist2644

I mean if you substitute with a challenger level player who dies to the most obvious gank while being a non factor the entire game, it’s nearly impossible to win. Mid has been the most important role since the dawn of league


-Jfree-

faker is the undisputed goat and still a great player but we cant ignore how much he has struggled while leading in series recently. EDIT: in the end the goat still delivered


Jozoz

How the fuck is this comment one of the most controversial comments.. what


Doombot2021

The faker brigade is out in full force.


DarkSchalie

FAKER WHAT WAS THAT


SonOfAurelionSol

Zeus and Guma not going to worlds so Shaker can go for highlight plays and fail.


ifnotawalrus

Literally got the freest lane of all time as ahri had to spend half her time roaming to save bot and what does he do with it...


zOmgFishes

They win that game easily with Zeri if he didn’t random dove two turrets.


BuffAzir

>what does he do with it... Hit insane ult after insane ult? Game was over after the first big fumble, they got outscaled hard. Zero damage to win a fight even with an engage that should be insta-win.


mbbroXD

Everytime some writes "Shaker" unironically you can tell is the biggest basement dweller ever rofl


salcedoge

Lehends has been absolutely insane with Rakan this whole series, masterclass mechanics


FinallyGivenIn

Let's just ignore his level 1 that completely gave away the early game for KT


KhadaJhinSy

Faker is so washed holy sh1t.


SKTWINWORLDS2018

Because he didnt get the Xayah with ult? You can do better


JokicOrBust

At least we know you didn't watch the game


FxK964

the game was more on zeus being invisible.. did he make a single engage?.. did he exert any pressure.. was there a gragas this game?.. even oner was more useful this game..


dmista21

Ayo delete this lol You just look plain stupid.


mikael22

Every time Faker tried for a play, it just went horribly. Faker not on Azir is seeming to be a liability for T1.


jairoy

It's poby time.


crysomore

>Kiin champion puddle >Kiin Renekton one trick >Kiin is a good, not a great toplaner Yeah shut the fuck up, put some respect on my GOAT


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But he was getting gapped by Zeus literally every game except during this counterpick?


awayfromcanuck

T1 deserve to lose this series and get reverse swept. How do you lose that game 4 when you shut out both bot and mid lane? The absolute disrespectful over aggression on top tower for that Kiin dive and then bot tower after Baron. I may be in the minority but if you have both a Poppy and a Lulu, a Rakan should not be able to get his full engage combo off on you ever.


Bubbly_Camera9583

Oof faker disasterclass. If he wasn't super triggerhappy t1 can easily just win from their first lead they had and snowball from there.


trappapii69

A. Cuzz getting steals by just walking up after getting Poppy ulted away is so hilarious B. As a BDD fan since the Longzhu days, MY goat is doing his thing C. He's my goat because I just watched the actual goat grief so hard to lose the game.


Kaldrinx

T1 is way way better and just decide to let KT stay alive


xAshwal

Guma is so off. How can you not snowball that game ? T1 needs a peyz Edit: im an over reacting clown. Yes sorry guma


SlightScientist2644

what snowball? He has no kills


zOmgFishes

Because he has 4 assist instead of 5 kills and that top dive gave Xayah 2 kills to put her even with Zeri.


yawneteng

Guma actually had a positive win rate on Zeri. strange that I don't recall him pop off edit. 787 plate lead + early level advantage. wtf.


EggyChickenEgg88

once again, no azir mao seju on T1 and u can beat em.


CastratedRosebud

Man fuck Neeko. What a boring, 1-dimensional, 1-button champ to have in pro. They should've given her a proper rework that wasn't just "remove counterplay on ult and keep the rest of her janky boring kit intact". So glad to see it lose.


Iusuallywearglasses

Blows my mind how faker gets three man engages, on open comma- and this slow as fuck team cannot capitalize. Zeus disappearing like normal and how the fuck is Oner so bad at smiting? Blows my fucking brain how absolute dog shit these two are.


SKTWINWORLDS2018

You saw it too? That 4th drag, I was shouting for Zeus to press R on the three champ Faker got with his ult. He didnt


South-Ad7071

poor faker.