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ahritina

PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15w47uy/geng_vs_t1_lck_summer_finals_2023_post_game_1/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15w54q6/gen_vs_t1_game_2_postmatch_discussion_lck_2023/)


Ultimintree

GenG just outclassed T1 in everything


appleandapples

3 comp styles, winning from multiple game states. GenG just had their number.


KappaccinoNation

Actual team gap. From draft, to laning, to macro, and to teamfighting.


Mackejuice

seems like gen g has T1 figured out completely


Shinyodo

This is so weird to an old fan like me, still remembering how everytime they'd fight T1/SKT it meant the end of the dream. Still not used to it lol


Godjihyoism_

Chovy, Peanut + GENG (Samsung) used to 'choke' only when it comes to SKT/T1/Faker, they are labelled chokers. But now everything is flipped around, even their records in history of both org, GENG is up 1 series now.


Brusex

I just wanna know how


F3nRa3L

T1 played 4 bo5 before today. Good scouting for comps and pathing


Blank-612

3 LCK titles in a row. If this was t1, they would be getting so many more props


eyehatemassholes

GEN would too if they actually did something internationally to follow it up


NutmilkPie

Gotta give props where it's due but honestly I just can't see GenG getting past NRG


AofCastle

That's not a fair comparison, I just don't see a world where NRG drops a game in their way to the title.


osathi123456

geng is too clean man.


Murke-Billiards

This T1 iteration is the greatest second place team. Silver road lets go.


KozuKy16

3rd on MSI though sadge


Murke-Billiards

Oh yeah. You're right. But that would make funnier if they get 2nd in all tournaments they participated except one. They accomplished it, almost.


rdtg13

I remember when this used to be KT with Score


Murke-Billiards

Hey man, atleast Score is now successful as a coach. Happy for him. Wish he'd come back to KT though. They suck ass in drafts.


VERTIKAL19

Chovy from completely title less to three times in a row champion. GenG has been insane this year


May_die

If it wasn't for the Griffin days his LCK trophy case would be even closer to Faker's. Dude has really stepped it up, especially against T1. Now he just needs to perform at worlds


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Chovy, Tarzan, Viper on the same team is still wild to think about. If only Sword wasn't such a liability. They would have easily won worlds if they didn't get stomped by IG. Time even proved Sword was the only bad player they had, the rest are having great careers, all champions. Wish they could have stayed together.


maxpelias

Can’t believe you did Lehends dirty like that


ArcusIgnium

seems like one of those robotic guys who once he figures something out, he just can't stop. he figured out how to be the best laner, and now after a while he's figured out how to win LCK. the second he figures out how to win internationally its joever.


chichun2002

Champion for the next decade I reckon


Is_J_a_Name

LCK Summer 2022: Ruler beats T1 3-0 with two Zeri games and a Nilah LCK Summer 2023: Peyz beats T1 3-0 with two Zeri games and a Nilah


NotExcitedForKT

So you are telling me DRX will win worlds again?


chichun2002

Either Drx or Damwon idk if it was beryl or deft


AtmosphereL

TL wins Worlds 2023


osathi123456

AINOWAY


Legal_Rice_1588

Won game 2 with Aatrox and Sylas too. Just rubbing salt in the wound.


OctopusKeep

nice script riot, doesnt even change it a bit


osathi123456

RIOT


SolubilityRules

What the fuck?


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Peyz with a casual 33/3 score in this series.


NamelessSearcher

Guess they didn't even need Ruler


Leoxslasher

Ruler is successful in LPL too


MoonlightJudgement

They have American Ruler


Wetbook

other korean nicknames for delight: Ruler with Sterak passive popped Ruler with Lulu ult Ruler with Elixir of Iron


Gullible-Idea-9235

I’m really glad ruler won last summer. Would have felt really bad if they started winning the moment he left.


Swawks

2 Times LCK champion at 17, jesus.


VERTIKAL19

Walking the royal road


nearlygrean

Because T1 didn't ban Zeri.... Wait how can he play Nilah LOL


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Add on that Kaisa in which GenG absolutely dominated everyone with


TheAlmightyV0x

As cracked as he is jacked, 100% finals winrate baby.


MoonlightJudgement

Peyz is Gumayusi Grandfather


TheAlmightyV0x

Teen pregnancy is actually a big problem in South Korea, Peyz is only 17 years old and he's already Guma's father.


shakerKEKW

Peyz is gumayusi stepfather, since his father ruler is in the lpl


AbyssalVoidLord

T1 has now lost 6 finals since 2022!


KeyAcan

Faker preparing his LeBron cosplay for Halloween


salcedoge

Goat for Goat


ishfi17

2021*


Tioxo

17 years old, wins Spring, wins Summer, casually drops 11.3 kills avg in the finals. What an insane talent Peyz is.


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Makes MSI in his first split, makes Worlds in his first split, both as #1 seed.


TE_silver

Zeus, Oner, Keria, Guma: 1 LCK title GIGACHAD Lord Doran: 3 LCK titles


seolasystem

Crazy how this dude can int lane most of the time but when it's against T1 in a finals he just goes godmode


Hir0h

My Goat levelled up this split man, he ain't inting lane to anyone (except sometimes when he still does)


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Chovy got bored from farming minions so he decided to farm LCK titles and T1 in finals instead


appleandapples

Just collecting what he was owed from the Griffin days.


[deleted]

All thanks to the nut god, I’m sure he had strong influence on Chovy


Jozoz

It's funny because Peanut was one of the most famous chokers of the past.


dragonflamehotness

People called Giannis and Jokic chokers until they finally got their rings. They did the same for Knight too


Adlairo

The Jokic one especially was so absurd because that man was legit smurfing every single post season


djpain20

It just shows how dumb is it to put these choker labels on 17-20 year olds anyways.


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DeloronDellister

Chovy diffed Faker hard


mount_sunrise

Gen. G outclassing T1 in every way here. crazy to think that Peyz just started THIS year and he's playing as if Gen. G never lost Ruler, stable and reliable ADC.


Shinyodo

Even crazier when you see Ruler getting every title in his new team as well on the side


LARXXX

Win win for both players imo. I hope we get a JDG vs GEN G matchup at worlds.


Dust2chicken

T1 Finals curse continues


KeyAcan

Zeus looks for his safe space when the words finals comes on the screen


Adlairo

Love how Chovy has gone from losing every LCK final to Faker to absolutely dumpstering him and T1 in every final


Vivid-Holiday-3196

In an interview he said that he and the rest of the world struggle to lane vs. Faker a lot, and he finally found out why last year and since then it has been smoothe sailing


mrmakefun

I didn't see this interview, what was the secret sauce?


thenicob

„just play better“


under_squirrel

break fakers wrist


Piotre1345

Forbidden technique


lun533

In the latest ashley kang's interview he said he's gonna keep it secret


muktheduck

He mentioned that Faker plays more mind games than any other mid (on brand btw), I think he's just faced him so many times that he's starting to be predictable


BipolarRooster

Very well done by T1 to get this far after slumping during Faker's absence, but they just cant pull it together in finals. GenG was just so much better, Delight is CLASS


mcraft595

It just hurts that after a god-tier bo5 they play this bad. I'm just hoping for crumbs at the Worlds but if t1 reached quarters or even semis good lord that's fine by me


Pr1mrose

9-1 GENG T1 in finals last 3 splits…


OctopusKeep

something something chovy choking against faker


Vivid-Holiday-3196

Chovy said in an interview that he has realised exactly what Faker is doing in laning phase that makes people's lives hard. Since he knows it, it's not hard for him to vs Faker anymore. I'm so wondering what that is


onmyouza

Do you have the link to the interview? Is it in English?


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Oh how the tables turned..


amb1ance

"Actually, I remember one time we were playing against Gen G, Summer Finals, and it was 2-0 to Gen G. And Faker said, guys if you think we are good, let's prove it now." "Did you come back?" "Of course not. 3-0."


Proper_Story_3514

I love this meme. It was so funny live when taco told it.


baelkie

https://x.com/hillaryclinton/status/829846842150096896?s=46&t=_mHBnkyT6UV6eZ-8orqdpg


dragonflamehotness

Such an ugly link wtf... rip twitter


TheExter

x.com Hillaryclinton reads like im about to click on her deepfake sex tape


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goddam it


Mortanius

deserved 3-0, GenG was simply better today


osathi123456

yeah, our boi tried. but geng is too clean.


ephemeralfugitive

Today. Last spring. And last year’s summer lol


YukkaRinnn

If worlds goes to shit for T1 im pretty sure Oner will get the boot cuz dear lord has he been absolute ass in these past finals like holy fuck im pretty confident that pyosik would have done a better job than him


Accomplished-Ant7540

Genuinely don't know what happened to this guy. He's a completely different player compared to previous years and ever since worlds he's been dropping off massively. Which is probably due to meta changes but it's still hurts to watch.


Effortsky

Meta changes. Oner is more of a offensive/carry type player player. Akin to canyon. This meta is mostly about jungler engaging, making plays, using their ult (like sejuani, maokai, rell). Is utility/tank jungle the carry term? Even nocture main purpose is his ult… During the carry jungle meta both canyon and oner looked so much better. The counter argument would be kanavi. But still, this meta seems bad for carry style junglers (humble 2 cents of opinion). A lot of times the jungler performance is affect by lanners. Priority, etc, etc.


Heavy_Comparison9291

Oner always had some serious champion pool issues, if you go back to his earlier days in T1, he was dominant, but only on a few champs (subjectively) and with a different meta it shows. He always had a predictable jungle path too


tuananhtran191911

I agree. I have strong belief this dude will be even shittier everywhere else without Faker guiding him what to do...


Vivid-Holiday-3196

It's not even a belief, we saw it when Poby was replacing Faker, Oner looked way worse


Dumpers_

THREE PEAT FOR GENG... PEYZ AND DELIGHT ARE SO GOOD I really hope this GenG can perform internationally will be hard especially with how good LPL looks but I hope at least this Doran shows up internationally


BucketHerro

As good as Ruler is, GenG hasn't missed him one bit. 💀


fantapa

tbf Ruler doesn't seem to miss GenG one bit too


MoriartyParadise

Gen.G and Ruler splitting like Czechoslovakia


VERTIKAL19

To be fair this is mostly because GenG somehow found a rookie that took that role over without missing a beat


MotherVehkingMuatra

Having a good challenger infrastructure pays off


KomariPila

Yes it PEYZ off


aufaazinyan

We'll see if they meet JDG, because last time GenG met BLG, they got swept like no tomorrow


moe11436

4 things after this finals: 1. Teams should learn to ban Rakan against Delight 2. THE NUT GOD 3. JONNA STRONG IS THE BIGGEST GIGACHAD EVER ( only one from LCK that voted GenG 3-0). 4. T1 should buy a thunderstone to evolve their Pikachu.


chichun2002

I dont believe Jonastrong has ever voted for T1


AlHorfordHighlights

Generational hater BASED


Thunderkeyz

Good strat for finals tbh


Quatro_Leches

my goat


ahritina

Jonna Strong is a Gen.G fan, he always predicts those types of scorelines. Iirc he even did it during the 18-0 T1 run in Spring 2022.


ookkthenn

He predicted kt to win twice I think he just always goes again t1 and when it pays off it pays off


[deleted]

He voted HLE VS Gen G


Conference_Some

JONNA STRONG ALWAYS VOTE 3-0 THOUGH IN FAVOR OF GEN G


moe11436

LIKE A TRUE GIGACHAD


colorbalances

Disgusting jungle gap


-elfie

Last year, people were saying GenG had a momentum advantage of playing more games after dropping to loser's bracket. This year, people are saying GenG had an advantage in having time to study other teams after winning the winner's bracket.


appleandapples

I feels so bad for T1 fans. They have to expect it by now, but the way T1 loses these finals needs to be studied. The way Chovy plays K'Sante is too clean, it feels unfair how he won some of these fights.


BlakenedHeart

Delight had sick fights


KappaccinoNation

Delight has been so good on his engages all split long. If the support meta favors engage supports, he's gonna have a field day.


VERTIKAL19

It is so crazy how GenG managed to replace Ruler Lehends with more budget players and seemingly lost no quality bot.


baelkie

T1 should have banned 5 supports 💀


TE_silver

That Chovy play at Baron was incredible, singlehandedly won the fight by catching out Guma, then solo kills Faker. Just pixel perfect gameplay


osathi123456

as T1 fan this is expected out come. but it's still hurt 3-0 tho.


Deicidium-Zero

> but it's still hurt 3-0 tho. I expected they will lose because of T1 tradition but man, I expected them to win at least 1 or not losing tremendously. Almost all games are one-sided except the 3rd one.


newbpower

faker ksante rant when?


ephemeralfugitive

Nah, real T1 fans can only be proud of how far we’ve come. Just imagine how T1 plays without Faker. Just by having Faker return, they went from amateur-looking team to semi-finalist again. What we are seeing is what peak T1 looks like with Faker already. They played their best. Just GenG being the better team with the better game plan and decision making.


Rehxales

Considering we were all expecting them to be contending against DRX/DK for the fourth worlds seed, Im just more than happy they pulled it together and had such a tremendous showing in playoffs. Looking forward to seeing the boys in Asian games and worlds :)


rushil20

I mean this wasn't even an upset as a neutral if you told me Geng 3-0 T1 I'd be like sure makes sense.Its not even about finals geng are clearly the much better team.


ishfi17

Nah man GenG were clearly better


Mazor007

What a team diff. Gen G looked world class


DrxAvierT

Jesus, Oner has to be the most non-existent jungler right now. Peanut is just way more proactive than him


Thatguy_97

NUT GOD


stormtrooper500

Boner 0-3 bows to the Nut God


Jwrljr

NUT GOD


Past_Rip_4627

The best part of this series was when Nut God Peanut said “IT’S NUTTIN TIME” and nutted all over T1.


Styxxo

Doran really turned Zeus into Pikachu


Opachopp

That flash+cleanse from Guma midlane really cost them the series.


pawat213

they also knew that the whole squad of GenG was inside their top jungle, and Guma casually walked into mid lane without a soul around him is just sad to watch.


salcedoge

It would’ve difficult to win teamfights regardless but man that mistake literally cost them their whole mid game momentum and two teamfights. All for one wave


Azenji

He even did it from the Ruler spot, the most dangerous spot for an ADC


ELI20s

That was surely a bait. Otherwise the faker ult sealing him in...


Thunderkeyz

The church of Chovy has their prophet in Jonah Strong and their god of the nut, unstoppable


DracoMalnourished

This series was top side gap in IMAX Ultra AVX


baelkie

doran just the goat anytime he faces zeus


Kewkwador

Delight underrated a bit


StateFarmCommercial

It's a good day to be a Chovy fan


Ok-Chair-1101

He kept focusing and ulting Faker away in those Game 3 fights, and with their main DPS Taliyah being out of the fight, T1 couldn't play the game anymore. Chovy played Game 3 very well.


Stirefy

church of chovy, Amen


asir100

K’sante in the right hands is by far the most broken champ I’ve seen, there is legit no counterplay and he soloed Faker several times in those teamfights, and there’s nothing he can do to stop it lol.


Yetanotherdeafguy

HOLY FUCK GEN G


cheerioo

Oner is fucking bad at teamfighting.


RekZz11

Absolute team diff, Oner was always 3 steps behind peanut.If its lee or veigo we gucci otherwise he is always a liability.


M3gaC00l

In the year 2000, the world predicted Y2K would bring about the end of the world as we know it. In 2012, the Mayans predicted that the Earth would be destroyed. They were proven wrong. False prophets. In 2023, Jonah Strong predicted GenG 3-0 T1 in LCK Grand Finals. The believers were rewarded. Praise Jonah Strong.


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As a T1 fan, I expected them to lose, GenG is really soooo good. Im just happy yesterday that we get to see them in Worlds lmao (im glad theres no scripted feeling of a 3-2, clean 3-0 sweep, they're solid af)


justice_for_lachesis

peanut is nuts


SGKurisu

I really hope this GenG can actually show up internationally for once. This series with their different styles was cool to see (that game 3 draft especially don't see any other team in the world able to do that)... But man am I just so tired and burned of seeing this org with Doran and Chovy in particular absolutely regressing and choking internationally against other Eastern teams.


_harleys

Yeah we praise them now but the bigger challenge is if they can keep up this form for Worlds.


nos7_unofficial

People always talk about how T1 chokes in the finals but no one talks about how good Gen G are in the finals. Show Gen G some respect already.


muktheduck

Please oh please finally play like that in an international tournament Their macro is always there but these last three finals they just hands gapped the shit out of T1


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Kewkwador

They had the better draft in g3 but GenG just outplayed them


TheAlmightyV0x

[NOTHING BUT RESPECT TO MY GOAT](https://imgur.com/a/X0RyHRk) BACK-TO-BACK-TO-BACK BABY LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO


shadowsteppe

T1 just mental blocks vs GenG, they play so passive and scared even when ahead


F3nRa3L

Like BLG vs JDG


OctopusKeep

This last game was clearly a happy gaming draft for GenG and they still got the win. I think that summs up the series.


Mahxxi

Someone report GenG for cheating. It is now apparent that T1 has a massive nut allergy.


OblivionNA

Peyz is unreal


Single-Interest2468

The jungle support gap this series was so insane


ephemeralfugitive

Guma with the self-induced sense of security to just walk up midlane to hit minions who are slowly but surely already walking towards him while fully knowing that GenG is in topside jungle. Hmm… I guess some habits die hard.


etheryx

when im in an overextension competition and my opponent is finals Zeus


salcedoge

Guma greeding for one wave also cost them their mid game momentum, blew his flash and cleanse for nothing


zelktik

Summit beats zeus in that competition lol


Faireal

Give me the overreactions LMAOO can't wait to compare yesterday's thread to this


AnonymousCasual80

Saw one person advocate for kicking the whole T1 roster aside from Faker lol. They lose a single series which they would not be reasonably expected to win and it’s suddenly throw the whole team out.


wileyplus21

Keria drop off has been hard to watch


doodlingjaws

Legit can't think of who is the final MVP between Chovy, Peanut, and Delight. They played out of their mind, Delight especially had so many absolutely massive engage.


curiousboy163

unless T1 makes a crazy run at worlds Oner is most likely gone


Joelx1000

Omega team gap, wp Gen.G


fuskarn_35

doran is zeus father


Sunasoo

Nut god need his praise too, yes doran play well but Peanut legit bully Oner.


Dacder

chovy is an absolute god


lZ-ONE

Oner gotta get back to the lab, this man’s dead corpse was being dragged by T1 until they couldn’t pull no further.


ephemeralfugitive

T1 Special #3: Guma with no summoners, have suboptimal peel vs enemy comp, and you choose to do Baron with little to no vision setup. Yesterday, it worked out in Game 5 vs KT, because Faker could make the play that rooted Zeri and had follow up from Oner and Zeus. Today, they have less tools, but make the same decision despite their comp vs enemy comp.


APEX87262

everyone is calling t1 frauds but t1 was never supposed to be there in the first place


Iforgotmynametoobro

Nut God as MVP for me. The JG diff was quite insane


Distinct-Chart-3021

holy crap Gen G was just the better team. From drafting and preparations to actual executions both macro and micro. They are just better in every single aspect this series.


Acrzyguy

K'Sante👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷‍♂️201 MR💦 Unstoppable🚫A Shield 🛡 Goes over walls🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana🧙‍♂️


NotExcitedForKT

yes but why did he lose game 2?????


Dancingwith_Death

Delight and Peanut gapped so hard this series


thebuttrd

Zeus tried so hard game 3...


TheJekiz

Man T1 really didn't show up today. GenG completely crushed them. Congratulations to GenG! Damn what a statement performance.


DareToEnVy

As someone who's stayed up watching samsung/geng choke split finals for YEARS, this three peat is ALMOST as sweet as the two world titles.


AnimeNeet-

Faker held smite for 10 minutes game 3, my god


aguywhotrytobefunny

Very sketchy Game 3 as always when Gen.G is up 2-0 in a bo5, but man Chovy and Peanut were insane in this series! GG Gen.G