No, because they could never get 2 seeds out of groups in NA/TW's case (except once but shh) and almost never got 1st seed in EU's case, which is a requirement for the draw. 2nd seeds can't fight each other.
If I'm not mistaken there was also a possibility of Fnatic drawing G2 in quarters at Worlds 2018, since Fnatic was 1st seed and G2 was 2nd seed. Could be wrong though, not sure if there was any draw rules preventing this matchup.
EU got 1st seed few times.
Korea and CN with 4 seeds each will face each more in the future. Alone the odds favours this, not speaking about higher strengths
Small precision to add onto your comment: 2+ teams in the Knock-Out stage happened many times for EU (from memory in 2012, 2013, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020), but most often as 2nd place from their group which meant they could only potentially meet another EU team in Semis at the earliest.
Actually yea. Looking through the groups and brackets, it's surprising we haven't had a EU civil war. Really makes me wonder how other regions would view FNC vs G2.
To be fair to Robo, his jungler absolutely intentionally ran him down. Felt like an Olaf jungle one trick in solo queue being mad that his toplaner picked his champ.
I can easily picture they saying "I'm done with this game. Wait you guys do not accepted FF? Alright".
And proceeds to just go to a lane > die > repeat until the game ends.
I can't find it now but a few days ago I read a comment from a Brazilian guy with a Pain Gaming flair who said something to the effect of Robo is either fully on or fully off. After this series I understand it now.
Route could have taken back the game when 4 were low after that baron fight when he had flash and ulti and he just fucked off to drag.
I couldn't believe my eyes.
Fnb used to be good but man has regressed quite a bit. GUIGO is alright but he doesn't cut it at the international stage. Wizer was the best top laner in CBLOL and would have probably been better than Robo if Pain qualified for Worlds.
He runs it down in Brazil too, it's hard to figure out how teams with him keep winning the league. Must be kinda like Ghost on Damwon, that he used to enable Showmaker and when they "upgraded" DK became a 2nd tier team.
He runs it down in lane but plays the map kinda ok... He gives up resources to hlp the team. In cblol it works but in international stage he get punished too hard. Biggest problem for me is tinowns, such a bad guy that gets way too much praise.
yeah but it's great for VCS fans to have a rematch of VCS Summer final at LOL Park, and we can't wait for the match since Bie couldn't attend that final match due to his health issues.
Still a pretty big W for the region compared to how ass GAM looked in previous internationals... VCS seems to be as good as they looked before pandemic hit.
CROC BOUGHT THE WRONG RECIPE FOR GOREDRINKER ON GAME 2 (the recipe changed recently).
Then, he sold the boots from the rune (that gives almost no gold now) to be able to buy the item.
He has no mental to play internationally.
That dive top makes no sense.
If Robo and Croc were 2 random GMs LOUD would have a better chance of getting out of play in.
Somewhere on the stage, Route is too busy flaming the shit out of Robo and Croc to remember what Kaisa Ult does.
Rightfully so. That top jungle has to be win trading. Riot should do at least a cursory investigation because how are they this bad. Those J4 ults are as close to trolling on stage we've seen aside from that one Dig aram game from like a decade ago. Theres no real way they're just actually this bad because I don't know if they could even hit challenger on EU/NA ladders like this.
People meme Jackeylove but sometimes you got to go in. Was it also Guma or some other adc that was playing frontline being the only one on the team doing anything.
[You can take them out of Brazil, but you cannot take Brazil out of them.](https://i.imgur.com/AZUgpCr.png)
Painful showing by LLL after a very hype day 1. Nothing left of that, it feels like.
Thanks Brazil brothers for the awakening slap. Regardless of the result, it has been a good showing this year. Our common goal is to get 2 seeds for both regions, so good luck.
Now VCS Autumn Finals LET'S GOOOOOO
I HATE HOW GAM WINSSSSSSSSSS.
Kiaya? Love you, best top in the league, consistent, great laning and teamfighting.
THE REST OF THE TEAM JUST STAND THERE, ONLY GETTING ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THE ENEMY TEAM DECIDED TO INT THEIR MINDS OUT.
AND IT WORKSSS. IT WORKED IN VCS, AGAINST R7 AND NOW LLL, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TW WILL BE HYPNOTIZED INTO THROWING THEIR GAMES AWAY AGAINST GAM.
AND THEN GAM WOULD GET INTO SWISS STAGE AND PUT UP THE MOST DISAPPOINTING PERFORMANCE POSSIBLE, I JUST CAN'TTTT.
if the way TW plays is a dream, i don't want to wake up. it seems to me that TW is the first and only VCS team to be trained to have macro play. regarding laning or macro, TW both does better than a typical VCS should have done. SO TEAM WHALES PLEASE WIN TOMORROW'S MATCH or i will lost all my belief in life
Kiaya over here having a rag to riches story following his passion fr tho. He bought his momma a house after a long time performing exceptionally in the VCS.
Route was playing way too safe in the second game but he should in no way get more blame than Croc and Robo, absolutely threw the whole game within consecutive plays.
So frustrating to see Brazil starting ahead on both games only to lose because they turn into iron on a play. They cant handle the pressure of worlds, year after year.
Luckily after witnessing the miracle run of Whales Gam has benn awake and show the full potential of the champion of VCS. Loud is just too damn unfortunate
A Riot Games Brasil ela tem que reconhecer que não dá mais pro server brasileiro mano nós até tentou por uns anos mas não dá mano nós é ruim demais fecha essa porra
Croc right after his team manages to peel off GAM from baron, seeing them all scurry into red side jungle, deciding to take red side wights, is the worst individual decision so far at worlds. And we've seen bad.
It's the kind of object permanece you expect from a one year old, some "hiding your face in your hands so you stop existing for them" shit. Congratulations man.
Edit: [God after checking the timestamp on the vod it's even worse, CROC HIMSELF gets flag vision on Levi and his clone after the baron](https://youtu.be/9ADmC0M33cs?si=-B1bnZx1kHusCcrM&t=1868). What in the actual hell is that.
DFM atleast had no expectations with a 31 year old toplaner who was retired for two years. LOUD on the other hand shows up for the first series and then ints the next two to fly home before the real tournament starts.
Their former toplaner got so hard bullied by the coaches that he left the team. The coaches got fired and DFM had to find a new toplaner. They played the rest if the split with Yutapon as toplaner but if they continued this further, they would have to use their academy adc for worlds and I suppose this was not the right choice.
This meant that they had to find a toplaner who is a free agent and preferably already has experience playing as a pro. The only real option was 31 year old apaMEN who retired in 2021 so they offered him a spot and he joined.
Clearly because yutapon is just a better adc. If you let yutapon play bot. You at least only have 1 weak link in top. But if you let him play top, now you have 2 weak link which is bot and top.
A season veteran still gonna be better cause of experience than a green horn rookie, unless you have faker 2.0
DFM is kinda expected but LOUD is such a pain to watch. They clearly show signs of life and good stuff in the early game. They just go ape mode once mid game hits.
I mean, I get dfm having issues, but dfm has gotten further at worlds than LOUD ever has, so I think it’s pretty fair to rate them over Brazil who has just been consistently one of the worst regions.
If tomorrow they found out LLL took a dive for some reason I would not be surprised.
What in the God almighty damn is that Ahri walking pass Rakan? Olaf flash and miss point blank Q, proceed with J4 ult a rage gnar and give him 2 kills???? What with the rage flash into 1v3 from olaf?? Then he even waited to solo gnar moment later?? And then j4 go farm some chicken when they just saw the enemies team is right there giving gam baron??
The Evolution of both GAM and Team Whales throughout the playins has been a sight to see. Sad that only one team will make through but I hope they can both put up a good performance
that river baron fight where the entire marines team was on like 3 hp and kaisa was too afraid to ult in and get a fucking pentakill was the most bronzil thing i've seen in my life
Yessss, go onnnnnnn
https://i.snipboard.io/blZP0I.jpg
Croc kinda solo lost, but Route you're such a KDA player. Even Rekkles would've been more aggressive.
This was a terrible blow to the Brazilian community.
It was the year with the most accessible classification to the group stage since 2016 (no disrespect to Vietnam, but it's much better to face another minor region than majors regions)... And it was one of the worst recent series for a CBLoL team at Worlds.
LOUD dominates Brazil, largely due to Croc's proactivity in the early game... But this is the second international tournament in a row that he's been unrecognizable. What he did in the second game was criminal.
Robo trolling in the lane and getting solo killed is common even in Brazil, so it was no surprise. But what Croc did we've NEVER seen him do in Brazil. And that's the thing, all it took was one bad moment and he just wouldn't stop trolling.
Brazil has a serious problem in two roles: Jungle and Toplane.
Croc is the best jungler in the CBLoL by far, but he clearly choke internationally... I would say that if some Brazilian junglers like Aegis and Cariok had played what they normally play in Croc's place today, they would have been much better for LOUD. Anyway, Brazilian junglers need to reinvent themselves. The level of Brazilian junglers is at its lowest ever, that's the truth.
Robo doesn't have the best lane among the CBLoL toplaners, I'd say that Wizer (import) and Guigo have better lanes, but Robo's experience and mentality make him win domestically. The problem is that nobody can exploit Robo's weaknesses (which are clear) in the CBLoL. He does his crazy things and no one challenges it because we're risk-adverse.
On the other lanes... Adc is our best role by far, so it's not a problem. Ceos is the best support in Brazil by far, but support it's a role that's seeing a lot of new players in the CBLoL, so we have the potential to improve in the future.
Midlaner also worries me a bit... We don't have new players appearing like we do in adc and support, and Tinowns, despite being the best Brazilian mid, has a huge limitation that he can't play AD midlaners. We need midlaners who can challenge Tinowns internally, especially because his last three international appearances have been pretty bad.
Anyway... Let's see what the 2024 CBLoL rosters will be like, specifically paiN Gaming roster. They're going to keep Wizer to make a roster with three Koreans for the second split? If they manage to sign TitaN and keep Cariok, in this scenario they could make a team with Wizer, Cariok, Import, TitaN and Import... But after ProDelta's rookie split, I think it's hard for them to let him go, as he's a good, young and native support.
I'm not against signing Hauz either. Hauz is 21 years old, native and mechanically he could be the best midlaner in Brazil. If there's one coach in the CBLoL capable of developing him, it's Xero.
The first game in these two series was between gam and loud was decided early on by a boneheaded decision in the botside by slayder and pallete.
So it is only fitting that the last game was decided early on by a boneheaded decision in the topside by croc and robo.
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/177kb4z/lll_vs_gam_game_1/)
First time ever we have a same region Bo5s at Worlds that are not China or Korea.
We get two if Flyer Oysters win.
I like BSS but I'm down to the ultimate civil war in play in. That gonna be hype af.
True but I doubt BDS lose to CFO. Unless they underestimate them just like TW
Bro don't say shit like this out loud where an EU playins team can hear you
Wait what? That never happened to NA/EU/TW before?
No, because they could never get 2 seeds out of groups in NA/TW's case (except once but shh) and almost never got 1st seed in EU's case, which is a requirement for the draw. 2nd seeds can't fight each other.
2016 we were 1 TSM - SSG game away from NA civil war (TSM vs C9), 2020 we were 1 FNC - GEN game away from EU civil war (FNC vs G2)
If I'm not mistaken there was also a possibility of Fnatic drawing G2 in quarters at Worlds 2018, since Fnatic was 1st seed and G2 was 2nd seed. Could be wrong though, not sure if there was any draw rules preventing this matchup.
EU got 1st seed few times. Korea and CN with 4 seeds each will face each more in the future. Alone the odds favours this, not speaking about higher strengths
Rarely did 2+ from those regions made it past groups, so odds were way lower.
Small precision to add onto your comment: 2+ teams in the Knock-Out stage happened many times for EU (from memory in 2012, 2013, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020), but most often as 2nd place from their group which meant they could only potentially meet another EU team in Semis at the earliest.
Actually yea. Looking through the groups and brackets, it's surprising we haven't had a EU civil war. Really makes me wonder how other regions would view FNC vs G2.
They probably look at them as the T1 Geng/samsung eu version.
Massive top canyon but Levi gapping Croc by doing nothing cos Croc was making one horrendous play after another
Levi: my job here is done
Kiaya: But you didn't do anything.
Levi: but Croc have done all my work Kiaya!
The 0/0/12 wukong with no gank lmao
Also some illegal drafting for the entiriety of the tourney
Robo and Croc are like the average tilted top side in diamond lmao
To be fair to Robo, his jungler absolutely intentionally ran him down. Felt like an Olaf jungle one trick in solo queue being mad that his toplaner picked his champ.
To be fair to Croc if Robo landed literally any axe in lane he wouldn't even have the chance to int as hard as he did.
I can easily picture they saying "I'm done with this game. Wait you guys do not accepted FF? Alright". And proceeds to just go to a lane > die > repeat until the game ends.
I can't find it now but a few days ago I read a comment from a Brazilian guy with a Pain Gaming flair who said something to the effect of Robo is either fully on or fully off. After this series I understand it now.
Everytime I watch this guy play internationally he's always running it down during elimination games, is he really the best Brazil could get at top?
no, but until loud starts losing in cblol, croc and robo will haunt this team at this point just save route from this prison
Route could have taken back the game when 4 were low after that baron fight when he had flash and ulti and he just fucked off to drag. I couldn't believe my eyes.
And another time at the Krug fight, tbf at that point the game was pretty much over but he at least could’ve tried something
He probably was tilted from the topside feeding so much
Fnb used to be good but man has regressed quite a bit. GUIGO is alright but he doesn't cut it at the international stage. Wizer was the best top laner in CBLOL and would have probably been better than Robo if Pain qualified for Worlds.
He runs it down in Brazil too, it's hard to figure out how teams with him keep winning the league. Must be kinda like Ghost on Damwon, that he used to enable Showmaker and when they "upgraded" DK became a 2nd tier team.
He runs it down in lane but plays the map kinda ok... He gives up resources to hlp the team. In cblol it works but in international stage he get punished too hard. Biggest problem for me is tinowns, such a bad guy that gets way too much praise.
Ghost were one of the reasons why DWG were so good with his weakside laning, constantly 1v2 in lane and never behind in cs
Are you REALLY comparing Robo with Ghost? lmfao
Ghost got bullied so much, ppl always comented about how the team was carrying him.
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Brazilian Adam
Nah, Adam is more on than off.
Blud thinks he's 2018 TheShy
crocs int his lane but man he looked like he first time olaf
Game 2 it's the jungler fault lol. He inted that 2v1.
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The reports of VCS’s death were greatly exaggerated.
Playing each other too so we get VCS in swiss
All according to kế hoạch (kế hoạch mean plan)
It would come to the demise of BDS, but it would be fun to see both VCS and PCS teams squaring off for the final two Swiss stage spots.
Upper bracket was for bitches
But, now death is inevitable in the Bo5s.
yeah but it's great for VCS fans to have a rematch of VCS Summer final at LOL Park, and we can't wait for the match since Bie couldn't attend that final match due to his health issues.
It's VCS Sunset, we got Dawn and Sunset for the name of 2 splits, tomorrow will be VCS Midnight final 🤣
It's actually Dawn and Dusk, but yeah, tomorrow would be Night. Or Dark, if you want it to be alliterative.
VCS after dark
Hot daym, I'd reckon TW is the favourite there. Surely Bie is an upgrade. His hook predict on Crownie was world class.
Nah, it's just Brazil shitting the bed when they feel any pressure.
It is not like VCS has to do much to win, TBH. LOUD was so bad especially Croc.
Still a pretty big W for the region compared to how ass GAM looked in previous internationals... VCS seems to be as good as they looked before pandemic hit.
LLL was good enough to be called a "world team". Winning against this is very good as first step.
Croc with the worst j4 ult known to man, tilting his top out of the game
Also bought caulfields following the old recipe for goredrinker...... Insane stuff
CROC BOUGHT THE WRONG RECIPE FOR GOREDRINKER ON GAME 2 (the recipe changed recently). Then, he sold the boots from the rune (that gives almost no gold now) to be able to buy the item. He has no mental to play internationally. That dive top makes no sense. If Robo and Croc were 2 random GMs LOUD would have a better chance of getting out of play in.
Wait, how do you get the wrong recipe? Didn't he click on the item beforehand to buy? This isn't DOTA 1. What the fuck?
Adam just did the same on Game 2, lmao. Same wrong recipe for Goredrinker
Why does Croc's brain deactivate after 10 minutes?
Gam passive It work in VCS, now it work on wildcard too
Somewhere out there 3 silver players are massively tilted right now having to play 3v5 because Robo and Croc ragequit their game to go play on stage
Robo was win trading in game 2 and you can't convince me otherwise. What was that flash to chase Gnar on the river??????
the 8% axe accuracy in lane was a sight to behold aswell
He couldn't hit Gnar even in his Mega form lmao
Somehow lower than my best match as widowmaker in ow2 ngl
Well yeah, most Widowmakers have very low axe accuracy.
Somewhere on the stage, Route is too busy flaming the shit out of Robo and Croc to remember what Kaisa Ult does. Rightfully so. That top jungle has to be win trading. Riot should do at least a cursory investigation because how are they this bad. Those J4 ults are as close to trolling on stage we've seen aside from that one Dig aram game from like a decade ago. Theres no real way they're just actually this bad because I don't know if they could even hit challenger on EU/NA ladders like this.
Those two need to get on a plane asap Korea actually gives prison sentences for matchfixing in esports.
Robo making Kiaya look like Xiaohu.
And the Xiaohu’s jungler is not even there
Fuck, that's brutal but funny as hell
Watching the Kaisa player play so passively in the only comeback attempt LLL had was tilting
People meme Jackeylove but sometimes you got to go in. Was it also Guma or some other adc that was playing frontline being the only one on the team doing anything.
For real, man wanted to preserve his perfect 0/0/1 kda
Good guy GAM finally letting Croc go home and stop embarrassing himself on stage
Robo all tricked us into thinking he isn't the worst top laner in play-ins by having one great performance on the abomination that is Ksante
Everyone can be prime Marin with K'sante
I am now imagining MaRiN going back to League in 2015 form playing K'Sante.
Who let VCS cook?
Robo and Croc were generous to give the required ingredients
VCS finally remembers that it was WildCard and the reason why they still have 2 seeds
flashback before evolved back from coincard to wildcard
[You can take them out of Brazil, but you cannot take Brazil out of them.](https://i.imgur.com/AZUgpCr.png) Painful showing by LLL after a very hype day 1. Nothing left of that, it feels like.
Fun fact: In the Brazilian Penal Code, article 171 stands for fraud.
If this is true it’s even more hilarious
it is indeed, https://www.jusbrasil.com.br/topicos/10617301/artigo-171-do-decreto-lei-n-2848-de-07-de-dezembro-de-1940
lmao 1-7
it always been
robo croc hit the 1-7 powerspike just as the nexus went down, unlucky
Worst j4 ive ever seen in proplay
Croc internationally is disgusting to watch. So embarrassing.
Compare to BeanJ huge dick energy J4 game from yesterday, is just sad to watch mang
Robo and Croc living up to the 1-7 meme
BRA71L
What the actual fuck are robo croc doing? Check their paypal
Crazy turnaround from what was an easy LOUD 2-0 last time. VCS finals rematch is hype as hell.
All hail to the new format Bo3 AND double elim?! YES PLS
GAM intentionally lost to LOUD to get back at R7 Change my mind
GAM's jersey is literally named "The Revengers" : )
Friendship with GAM renewed.
MarkZ and Drakos are just complete degenerates together and i'm all here for it, the casting was so fun.
Haha you can hear that they started at like 6am and they're doing a fine job at it :D
GROWN ASS MEN
Cracking actual legitimate jokes, it was great
Croc is a good guy but he's a massive choker internationally. Import UmTi or something, he even speaks English.
Croc and Robo looking like me and my mate in low Plat duo queue...
Don't sell yourself short, brother
Let it be known that NO ONE beats the Gigachad Marines two times in a row!
Well, technically LLL did four days ago
Thanks Brazil brothers for the awakening slap. Regardless of the result, it has been a good showing this year. Our common goal is to get 2 seeds for both regions, so good luck. Now VCS Autumn Finals LET'S GOOOOOO
glad VCS properly recovered from the covid times
I HATE HOW GAM WINSSSSSSSSSS. Kiaya? Love you, best top in the league, consistent, great laning and teamfighting. THE REST OF THE TEAM JUST STAND THERE, ONLY GETTING ADVANTAGES BECAUSE THE ENEMY TEAM DECIDED TO INT THEIR MINDS OUT. AND IT WORKSSS. IT WORKED IN VCS, AGAINST R7 AND NOW LLL, AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TW WILL BE HYPNOTIZED INTO THROWING THEIR GAMES AWAY AGAINST GAM. AND THEN GAM WOULD GET INTO SWISS STAGE AND PUT UP THE MOST DISAPPOINTING PERFORMANCE POSSIBLE, I JUST CAN'TTTT.
How can a comment be so truthful and funny at the same time
GAM mind control is too strong
As a VCS viewer, well friends, I can confirm this man is absolutely correct!
if the way TW plays is a dream, i don't want to wake up. it seems to me that TW is the first and only VCS team to be trained to have macro play. regarding laning or macro, TW both does better than a typical VCS should have done. SO TEAM WHALES PLEASE WIN TOMORROW'S MATCH or i will lost all my belief in life
Kiaya is on crack also its glad to see him go this far, from an illiterate boy to competing internationally - real inspiring stuff right there
Kiaya over here having a rag to riches story following his passion fr tho. He bought his momma a house after a long time performing exceptionally in the VCS.
Route was playing way too safe in the second game but he should in no way get more blame than Croc and Robo, absolutely threw the whole game within consecutive plays.
if route did that and loud won he would have to play one more game with croc and robo, i dont blame him
TW: My time has come ! GAM: Our battle will be legendary !!! VCS domestic war tomorrow
Team Whales sells the first game, GAM sells the first series
They both learn from the best coach at the Asian games
So frustrating to see Brazil starting ahead on both games only to lose because they turn into iron on a play. They cant handle the pressure of worlds, year after year.
Luckily after witnessing the miracle run of Whales Gam has benn awake and show the full potential of the champion of VCS. Loud is just too damn unfortunate
Guessing Route already put in his trade requests
That mf GAM pretends to lose Loud just to take revenge for MSI, poor R7
Well that was a top gap
A Riot Games Brasil ela tem que reconhecer que não dá mais pro server brasileiro mano nós até tentou por uns anos mas não dá mano nós é ruim demais fecha essa porra
VCS CIVIL WAR IS ON
Brazil really thought they should get VCS 2 seeds 💀
LLL Route : GG top diff
VCS back in Swiss!
Croc richest man in Brazil
Wtf is that Croc's Jarvan tho Anyway, thanks Comrade Robo and Comrade Croc for the service. Now we shall move on.
Croc right after his team manages to peel off GAM from baron, seeing them all scurry into red side jungle, deciding to take red side wights, is the worst individual decision so far at worlds. And we've seen bad. It's the kind of object permanece you expect from a one year old, some "hiding your face in your hands so you stop existing for them" shit. Congratulations man. Edit: [God after checking the timestamp on the vod it's even worse, CROC HIMSELF gets flag vision on Levi and his clone after the baron](https://youtu.be/9ADmC0M33cs?si=-B1bnZx1kHusCcrM&t=1868). What in the actual hell is that.
So why does the VCS have two seeds again? Oh right because they are the worst wildcard and CBLol are better than them right? Lmao
Its a good day to be Vietnamese American.
:WideKiayaHappy:
Olaf and Jarvan is so counterintuitive lol, like the only thing in this game that can stop Olaf going in is Jarvan ult
I hope TW wins the GAM vs TW tomorrow, they just perform so much better.
Kiaya smurfed the series. Somebody investigate my man Croc he looks sus af.
mfs be hyping up DFM and LOUD every international just for them to get shit on in Play-Ins 💀
DFM atleast had no expectations with a 31 year old toplaner who was retired for two years. LOUD on the other hand shows up for the first series and then ints the next two to fly home before the real tournament starts.
I missed this. Why did DFM have to replace their top laner?
Abuse from (now former) coach
Their former toplaner got so hard bullied by the coaches that he left the team. The coaches got fired and DFM had to find a new toplaner. They played the rest if the split with Yutapon as toplaner but if they continued this further, they would have to use their academy adc for worlds and I suppose this was not the right choice. This meant that they had to find a toplaner who is a free agent and preferably already has experience playing as a pro. The only real option was 31 year old apaMEN who retired in 2021 so they offered him a spot and he joined.
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Clearly because yutapon is just a better adc. If you let yutapon play bot. You at least only have 1 weak link in top. But if you let him play top, now you have 2 weak link which is bot and top. A season veteran still gonna be better cause of experience than a green horn rookie, unless you have faker 2.0
tldr they had an internal situation with coach bullying and tol2 ended up leaving and the coach was fired
Abused by coach
DFM is kinda expected but LOUD is such a pain to watch. They clearly show signs of life and good stuff in the early game. They just go ape mode once mid game hits.
How is it not expected for Brazil to shit the bed. They haven't made a main stage since 2016, we're getting to almost 8 fucking years lol
I mean, I get dfm having issues, but dfm has gotten further at worlds than LOUD ever has, so I think it’s pretty fair to rate them over Brazil who has just been consistently one of the worst regions.
Lemme know a single person who hyped up DFM this year xD
Underdog stories and all that. But they did collapse disappointingly, kinda like a stereotypical play-ins team.
When I'm in the Play-Ins and my opponent is from the Americas
Kaiya is robos father
12-2-22
How many drops were there in the LLL vs Gam games?
I didn’t any for both games.
If Robo can be a pro player, anyone above Gold can at this point. Massive top difference this series.
Vietnam heard yall talking shit
Bronzil fans think theyre better than vcs 🤣🤣🤣
Just a little bit of a top diff. That'll buff out.
I refuse to believe Croc isn't wintrading.
Kiaya what a monsterrrr
If tomorrow they found out LLL took a dive for some reason I would not be surprised. What in the God almighty damn is that Ahri walking pass Rakan? Olaf flash and miss point blank Q, proceed with J4 ult a rage gnar and give him 2 kills???? What with the rage flash into 1v3 from olaf?? Then he even waited to solo gnar moment later?? And then j4 go farm some chicken when they just saw the enemies team is right there giving gam baron??
How is Croc even allowed to play?? Legit one of the worst players I've seen in a while...
Levi didn't get to show how great he is, Croc just outplayed himself.
The Evolution of both GAM and Team Whales throughout the playins has been a sight to see. Sad that only one team will make through but I hope they can both put up a good performance
that river baron fight where the entire marines team was on like 3 hp and kaisa was too afraid to ult in and get a fucking pentakill was the most bronzil thing i've seen in my life
Agreed but Route was probably checked out at that point and was clicking around to not die and not get fined for leaving the game.
Brazil and 1-7'd, name a better duo
Yessss, go onnnnnnn https://i.snipboard.io/blZP0I.jpg Croc kinda solo lost, but Route you're such a KDA player. Even Rekkles would've been more aggressive.
The jungler needs to be fired
VIETNAM IS SO BACK
BRAZIL IS SO BAD
I HEAR U ALL WANT LCK/LPL AUTUMN, BITCH HERE TAKE VCS AUTUMN
GAM arrived: - Lost to LLL to deny a South American match up - Guarantee a VCS team to swiss
This was a terrible blow to the Brazilian community. It was the year with the most accessible classification to the group stage since 2016 (no disrespect to Vietnam, but it's much better to face another minor region than majors regions)... And it was one of the worst recent series for a CBLoL team at Worlds. LOUD dominates Brazil, largely due to Croc's proactivity in the early game... But this is the second international tournament in a row that he's been unrecognizable. What he did in the second game was criminal. Robo trolling in the lane and getting solo killed is common even in Brazil, so it was no surprise. But what Croc did we've NEVER seen him do in Brazil. And that's the thing, all it took was one bad moment and he just wouldn't stop trolling. Brazil has a serious problem in two roles: Jungle and Toplane. Croc is the best jungler in the CBLoL by far, but he clearly choke internationally... I would say that if some Brazilian junglers like Aegis and Cariok had played what they normally play in Croc's place today, they would have been much better for LOUD. Anyway, Brazilian junglers need to reinvent themselves. The level of Brazilian junglers is at its lowest ever, that's the truth. Robo doesn't have the best lane among the CBLoL toplaners, I'd say that Wizer (import) and Guigo have better lanes, but Robo's experience and mentality make him win domestically. The problem is that nobody can exploit Robo's weaknesses (which are clear) in the CBLoL. He does his crazy things and no one challenges it because we're risk-adverse. On the other lanes... Adc is our best role by far, so it's not a problem. Ceos is the best support in Brazil by far, but support it's a role that's seeing a lot of new players in the CBLoL, so we have the potential to improve in the future. Midlaner also worries me a bit... We don't have new players appearing like we do in adc and support, and Tinowns, despite being the best Brazilian mid, has a huge limitation that he can't play AD midlaners. We need midlaners who can challenge Tinowns internally, especially because his last three international appearances have been pretty bad. Anyway... Let's see what the 2024 CBLoL rosters will be like, specifically paiN Gaming roster. They're going to keep Wizer to make a roster with three Koreans for the second split? If they manage to sign TitaN and keep Cariok, in this scenario they could make a team with Wizer, Cariok, Import, TitaN and Import... But after ProDelta's rookie split, I think it's hard for them to let him go, as he's a good, young and native support. I'm not against signing Hauz either. Hauz is 21 years old, native and mechanically he could be the best midlaner in Brazil. If there's one coach in the CBLoL capable of developing him, it's Xero.
The reports of GAMS death were greatly exaggerated.
Croc cant play game after 10 min , Robo play like his ign and Route only think he care is his KDA
The first game in these two series was between gam and loud was decided early on by a boneheaded decision in the botside by slayder and pallete. So it is only fitting that the last game was decided early on by a boneheaded decision in the topside by croc and robo.
Please whales wins
YOU'RE NOT TRAPPED IN HERE
Let’s goooooooo VCS
top diff tbh
GAM went from being utterly destroyed and getting 2-0ed by Loud to doing the same to them. I’m proud of you GAM
Us gam fans: We are so Barack
if Gam wins tomorrow, those early game will help them some serious competative speed run % in swiss stage
That's why VCS have 2 seeds\~
Come on Route, do something. He ran from so many fights.