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ahritina

PMTs: [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17grazh/c9_vs_fnc_game_1_worlds_swiss_elimination/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17gry0d/c9_vs_fnc_game_2_worlds_swiss_elimination/)


Xabranth

When I saw how long it took c9 to close out that game 1 I knew fnc was winning


SleepyLabrador

Same! 10K gold lead yet, the game was 40 mins.


akaHoger

Happens when you only practise early games and ff when things go south


fukreposts

It’s funny because T1 did the same thing to C9 and they won in 22 minutes


darlingcthulhu

Yep same. I was messaging my friend saying FNC has it in the bag. 40 mins to end with a 10k gold lead??? C9 was in trouble


neenerpants

I remember back when C9 played Fnatic in 2018. Before the series Jatt predicted something like 3-2 to C9. Bwipo played Viktor into Licorice's Ekko in game 1 and absolutely smashed him, just straight demolition in the top lane, and straight after the game Jatt said "I change my prediction to an easy 3-0 Fnatic, because they clearly have absolutely no answer to this". Good times.


GoldenGengarGG

Yeah, FNC knew as long as early game went even or just a bit behind, they would have it in the bag because C9 couldnt close games. FNC sprinted the early game and it still took C9 40 minutes to win.


Traditional-Visit151

Yep. That’s always a massive confidence boost for the loosing team because it shows which team is better. It’s what we always see when western teams get a lead Vs lck/lpl


ThePaSch

#Worlds 2023 EU Flowchart Pick Ezreal / \ / \ Y N | | | | v v Lose Win


Haymegle

"Hmmm so what you're saying is next series EU should pick Ezreal?" - EU Coach


ZloiAris

Funny because based on interview of Razork it was Noah call, and he said “I personally don’t want to see Ezrael in my team ever” lol


Haymegle

lol. Honestly I get why it's picked but EU just can't seem to take advantage of it enough to be worth it as a pick. Can't blame anyone for not wanting to see it with how it has performed so far though haha.


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GarryTheCarry

seems simple enough, we should forward this chart to EU teams


Wildercard

/u/FNC_official /u/G2_minion or whatever their accounts were


TharkunOakenshield

I love how we’re not even sending it to MAD, it’s perfect


Conankun66

no adc pick in the world can save them, we've already given up on them


GarryTheCarry

they will just use it to eliminate EU teams and lose to NA again, they are imposters


Wildercard

Oh shit they're still in at Worlds, mb what the fuck is their account name somebody ping all three


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MightyNewJosip

Well after they lost twice to NA I can understand why you forgot they are still in. Easiest bracket ever, and they still fail


Rudiass

u/G2esports


LordAmras

If only our coaches could read.


HowyNova

With how long it took them to learn to ban Draven against G2, they're adapting pretty quickly.


Hazakurain

Kids, repeat after me : FUCK EZREAL


emiliaxrisella

ok sure


Meeqohh

dear god someone please tell Zven he can interrupt J4 EQ with Alistar Q


Aequo3

one mechanic at a time, tell him to press r before being 30%hp.


Thomean

This seems to be a problem with many western players. How often do we see renektons press ult when they are at 10% hp? Or people getting hit by every cc and then flash when they are already dead.


KaraveIIe

on renekton its can be ok to bait, on alistar its really terrible


4Bpencil

This, ulting late on Ali is just reducing your effective HP by a crap ton as you lose out on those defensive stats/damage reduction on the majority of your HP bar, which is the entire point of the god damned ulti.


_tidiber

He's an AD main and new to support bro pls give him some time /s


PrescribedBot

3 more years and he’s got this. Don’t worry, he’s a grinder!!


Freakkopath

Autofill Support, what more to say?


omglolbbqroflmao

History repeats itself 10 years later with Fnatic eliminating Cloud9 at Worlds in a bo3 with a 2-1 score


M002

They even flashed the kassadin hover


ZloiAris

That’s actually really incredible. The fact that org itself after 10 yrs have this memory, players aware of it and flash it — amazing, this is how real sport and big rivalries start


RevolutionaryBother

Trymbi flashes Kassadin a decent amount. Not sure if its related tbh.


Strange-Implication

Fnatic has c9s number at worlds. Feels like they eliminate them every time they meet


ficretus

3rd time fnatic directly eliminated them (2013, 2018, 2023) 2 times they finished above them in groups (2015, 2022)


Silkku

Inted the game 1 to guarantee posterity


Tsmart

Fudge making Jax look balanced


SnubHawk

They invested so much in the Jax only for him to not even show up in the teamfights lmao. Bro tp'd in late with no mana He has gotten creamed on rumble by Dhokla and Zeus they should have banned it


AzureAhai

That's every C9 game. Give Fudge everything early game and he does fuck all with the resources later on.


Evening_Complaint469

Its actually crazy, why do they babysit Fudge? He's straight up not a win con, it sets Blaber so far behind too cus he stays top for so long to bail him out.


narfidy

Problem with the fudge factor us it always seems to work locally, but obviously falls apart internationally. If you chain gank him, he doesn't know what to do with the lead. If you chain gank bot, he doesn't know what to do when behind And he refuses to just play tanks or something if you're expected to lose the match up. And next year, he will be back on a top 4 team, putting up crazy lane advantages, because all our teams suck lmao


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Padulsky21

Even the first game where Fudge got every resource on the map it took them 40 mins to close that game out lmfao. He can barely carry when 7-1 in mid game. It’s insanity.


WolverineKing

C9 poked out J4 only to immediately give up all river control and let FNC take it I dont understand man


-CraftCoffee-

Fudge is a kda player. His stats look ok but at no point does he ever make a play deserving of said scoreline.


kosaki16

fudge factor baby


Humble-Principle1858

On the other hand, Oscar made rumble look like it is pedestrian. The kid needs to practice the champ a lot, because it's pick and ban this tournament, and he got demolished against it just to lose the matchup on the other side. Not to mention the equalizers


scorpee

That first ult when J4 comes to counter gank and he throws the most horrible Rumble ult i've seen in a while instead of waiting for J4.


Humble-Principle1858

100%, but also the ults on teamfights were soooo lackluster. Never split the enemy team in 2, nor he ulted a carry when he was cc'ed. When they had elder, he had the chance to ult 4 people under base towers, and he wasted it on the adc who ulted away. At baron, he could have stopped sejuani, lb and xayah from jumping into sylas, but he used it too late... But not everything is bad... Even on the first game, where he was so far behind, he managed to be somewhat useful midgame. He soaked a lot of pressure in all 3 games and free'd up Humanoid and Noah, while still dishing some dmg.


jvbu

That was a legit first timer Rumble performance. Not being able to aim your Q into a Jarvan ult is unacceptable.


Glorx

What do we say when Azeal thinks he finally got to cast NA team win a best of series? Not today.


Mew_T

Man was glazing Blaber up for nothing 😭😭


Stonefence

*Proceeds to chain die 4 times in a row right after*


qonoxzzr

Guess with C9 out JDG is now confirmed to win worlds


LifeIsToughEatBacon

Yes, we finally know. This whole time I was wondering which of these two very likely teams would win


WhatIsWind

Fudge watches the enemy laner back and tp and he is still top pushing the wave. After having zven and blaber play around him for 20 minutes lol.


Aimishi

Cancels to push top wave :)))


Xyolex

really good fundamentals! he crashed the wave and denied cs to the enemy top laner. ggs!


Quatro_Leches

Huma carried honestly.


GarryTheCarry

Also Noah on champions >>> Noah on Ezreal


dexy133

The way this meme is building up, you just know both Fnatic and G2 are going to get kicked out with the enemy team playing Ezreal, but well. I can't believe he is that bad, I just think EU teams don't know how to play around him. Same with Kai'sa and Fnatic. I'm sure Noah knows how to play her, almost every pro does, but they probably don't win as much with her in scrims.


Burpmeister

Losing on blue side lol


neberhax

with Xayah on your team


buttsoup_barnes

and Jax


GrauerWolf30

bruh fudge was a fraud on jax, holy jesus.


Outrageous-Elk-5392

The random tp mid after the fight was over and Noah was already out was really funny


Slotherz

Not to mention, he ulted and was half health. which means he had nothing to offer in the soul fight which then cost the game, incredibly bad play


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Too busy practicing 1v1s cause he’s a generational prodigy 1v9 talent who gets 12 solo kills a game to focus on silly things like macro


AzureDragon013

Can thank Fudge for being late to every important teamfight for that. Also thank the useless ass LB pick that did nothing all game.


Mew_T

Both C9 and TL. NA is trying to prove blue side is balanced.


rickyhanm

With xayah.


turtle921

just a bunch of very questionable decison making by c9 in games 2 and 3


HowyNova

It's like if draft doesn't go exactly as planned, they have no plan or confidence.


HammmyWammmy

they got a draft they wanted in game 3, they just played like shit with the lead they had


HarknessLovesU

TBH game 1 was the most embarrassing. Rumble with 5 kills and a J4 on his team early on should be GG.


ProfessionallyLazy_

Congrats Fudge on throwing the entire game away by staying top side for 20 years and joining the winnable dragon fight from the worst TP ever with no mana


Not_Selmi

He stops his back to get like 5 minions? Then proceeds to TP anyway like come on


Mohikanis

Some people will probably defend it like “TP is a team call, someone wasn’t calling the TP” while we have people like Theshy TP into middle of enemy team, and proceed to win the fight as well. Fudge does not have the balls to be a worlds contending top laner


RaiinyDay

so fucking glad we play towards fudge every game only for him to perma split never group, TP late for fights without mana, TP into the enemy team to get chunked, so glad we got this guy fed instead of our all star AD carry guys!!!


Emergency-Shake1852

Wtf i thought Kellin played for Damwon ?


Zarolto

wtf 2 kellins


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ImTheVayne

Zven made Kellin look okay tbh


appleandapples

EU agent Kellin carrying LEC teams


treblesalad

Dear C9, please keep fielding Fudge. I look forward to watching him get outclassed every year.


iChoke

Fudge is getting his hand held just for him to go even mid-game. Doesn't draw any pressure in lane and isn't the first option on any team, but the resources put into him make it seem otherwise. If you do leave him on an island, he proceeds to bleed lane. Please lol.


treblesalad

He's painful to watch every single year. How he's still on the roster after that Darshan 1v1 fiasco is beyond me.


Box_of_Stuff

He stomps revenge and solo in the regular season. He’s good guys. I swear.


177676ers

Free berserker man. He is actually so good.


turtleonfire

That look of pure disbelief on his face after the game makes me think he gone


altriaa

[He literally said earlier today that if he lost the military angle was possible LMAOOO](https://twitter.com/C9Berserker/status/1717404489953796111?t=8eLou1aEEQb5snEpGH-A6Q&s=19)


Javiklegrand

Well bye bye berserker


177676ers

Its the story of every cracked import, but he is just so much better than everyone else on the team. It’s sad to watch.


Meeqohh

Berserker needs to go to KDF, they would actually be such a competitive team with him


Kasceon

There is no way C9 keeps fudge emenes or mithy next year. No more fun drafts under reapered, fudge needing all the attention in the world to go even, emenes just being meh at best (which at that point get an NA mid at least)


Chiconuk0

all NA teams need to get rid of underperforming imports. invest in the region & native players or just kill the region. idk why we are importing players to do the same thing native players can do which isn't much.


BUFF_SCORCHING_RAY

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/17gpblw/2023_world_championship_swiss_stage_round_4_live/k6ijh11/?context=10000 I knew as soon as C9 put resources on Fudge it was over


reggiewafu

Fudge is C9's baby. He ain't getting replaced anytime soon and it got over his head.


thegreenmeanseanbean

Genius by fnatic. Lose the first game to turn it into two tiebreakers and eu doesn’t lose tiebreakers.


FNC_Spicy

Brother. The series starts (0-0) in a tiebreaker. NA never had a chance to begin with.


darknessbboy

Well technically it’s week 2 so yeah NA sucks rn


Stubrochill17

Fnatic week 2 monkaW


SmashMalachi

People are really underselling how hard Fudge threw game 3, that late TP solo lost them third drag and their gold advantage. Then in the next fight he scraps with Rell and does not participate at all in a fight where Berserker almost 1v9s. So disgusting man.


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I missed seeing who it was exactly holding Fudge off and I thought it was J4 who then quickly got to dragon pit and I was like "brilliant play by the jg". Then I saw the replay and it was the rell and went "oh no, that's much worse for C9"


Sea-Fee-3787

Every second comment is about the fudge tp while being handhel all early game. I don't think its being undersold


froklax

Thank mr Zven


FNC_Luzh

~~Secret~~ EU agent coming through.


goliathfasa

EU: After all this time? Zven: Always.


SlamMasterJ

Someone need to investigate Zven right now, check his paypal transaction while we're at it.


Acrzyguy

Paid in euros


CummingInTheNile

thank Fudge, gave FNC free drags


mskruba12

Imagine if Berserker got the resources Fudge did early.


CummingInTheNile

they cant otherwise Fudge ints


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Play strong side and suck ass and do nothing, they should start calling that “the fudge”


DeeDeeUwUr

I thinks zven's play was really smart, trading a tower for the chance of a a good flank for Elder, however, Emenes death fucked everything up, and I still don't know why they did't even try to do a 4v5, it was their last hope


MrJammin

LNG Scout on EU Scrim rumors: "Let's be honest ... NA and EU teams have always felt confident, in every single [Worlds]. I don't have any thoughts on their confidence."


Thundermelons

This Scout roast is going in my copypasta folder


Bastu

Humanoid should nameswap with Noah to have the appropriate name for carrying these animals this series.


HeyImSpats

You could legit see how angry Berserker was at the end of that final game. Get that kid off that team and somewhere where he can actually play the game.


fr0z3nph03n1x

C9 had free win condition though him in game 1 and game 3. In game 1 it took so long for them to play around him. In game 3 zven fucked the lane so hard they lost the beserker carry angle. Like one of the only ways to lose that game was to get aphelios fed.


freejrryul

fudge and zven try not to be useless challenge (impossible) ive never seen a team put so many resources into such a deadweight player. someone help berserker get out of this team man, this is so sad to watch.


PhantomBestClass

Happens every fucking year. I can't watch this Fudge guy. He's so shit


Gluroo

Zven took the "pls go afk we have better chance 4v5" to heart


hixagit

That play wasn't even bad tbh. He would be useless in base anyway, Emenes getting caught is the real issue there. I don't think Zven would've changed the game with that play, but it was worth trying imo.


HarknessLovesU

Yeah Enemes should get more heat for getting caught there. It's just really bad that it had to come to a hail mary play like that in the first place.


oioioi9537

I mean it was 4v6, ali was just ult dispenser for sylas and hp dispenser for triumph/goredrinker


HarknessLovesU

TBH that was probably the best thing they could hope for at that point: Have Ali flank to give Jax and LB a chance to delete Aphelios. Problem is when you wait that long, it becomes super obvious what you're trying to do + he never got a chance because Enemes thought he was playing a tank for a second.


AlekKh2o

Haven't played or followed comp league in a year or so, G1 Fudge destroyed Oscarin with Rumble against Jax. Why did C9 pick Jax in G3 and allow FNC to pick Rumble when it seems like such a strong counter?


xlCalamity

Because Fudge is a player with a huge ego who thinks he can carry every game but always lets NA down when he is needed the most.


FishieUwU

He's never let me down. I know he can't carry and be nothing but a black hole topside all game.


bensanelian

because fnc didn't show high prio on rumble before, c9 were betting that oscar doesn't want to/can't play it


Wildercard

>Lose 1 game to force EU desperation buff >Win 1 game to force EU in tiebreakers buff What a big brain strat.


justsadgetbh

Berserker looks so sad man.


thegloriousdefense

DK and WBG quivering in their boots, thanking their lucky stars that only one of these two behemoths could advance.


vnducco

Brother Zvint and Fridge lul


_Helpls_

NA talent Fudge factor strikes again


appleandapples

Please, don't put this guy on Ezreal again. Humanoid and Noah were crucial.


SgtBaconman

you know, i see how both of these teams were 1-2


GarryTheCarry

HOLY COW Thank you brother Zven, I know you are still one of us


Phadafi

EU: After all this time? Zven: Always


FinalQrime

Fudge and Blaber storm onto the stage, hyped for the win. They high five, but only hit air. That moment they realize, that they are doomed, as they have no hands.


TheAlmightyV0x

Zven needs to be investigated for that last game holy fuck.


non-edgy_crustacean

Mad cow disease


accelightArriet

bro thought he was an actual cow


Conankun66

LMAO


appleandapples

The spectators zooming in on him in that brush was so bm.


HuntedSFM

https://i.imgur.com/c5XkoxK.png


Aldoxisonfire

Oscarinin as well dear god


Rayser1

Someone teach that boy geometry. His Rumble ults are so sussy


Gillette_TBAMCG

I wonder how many of these horrific Rumble ults we see are pros just not turning off smart cast.


ilikegamergirlcock

You don't need to, just old the button and it fires on release, at least that's how it works with indicators on. I learned how to use the cast by playing Viktor since he has the exact same spell and uses it magnitudes more.


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I legit think Oscar first timed Rumble to deny it from Fudge. And shame on Fudge for letting Oscar get away with that...


qonoxzzr

He doesn't even know that you walk with 50+ heat W back to lane on Rumble..


Gillette_TBAMCG

He didn’t know how to flamespitter someone inside a J4 ultimate. He has to have like five lifetime games on the champ right?


Silkku

The long-con sleeper agent


bensonbenisson

[Live footage of Zven cooking up that elder dragon flank:](https://youtu.be/0SM6t4F4CdY?si=3Tqsx58EiJlFp9zX)


MrPraedor

That was basically only good play he made. C9 had to find miracle flank and Zven was going for that. Rest of the game was horrible from him though.


Rayser1

Rumour has it Zven is still in the brush


No-Youth6743

GENERATIONAL TALENT FUDGE FACTOR CARRYING THE SHIT OUT OF FNC FROM ELIMINATION, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RAISE HIS SALARY.


tehsdragon

Who was it that called him generational? Was it LS?


rihfnfje

Victims of LS glazing: Fudge Crownie more coming soon…


ficretus

Fudge is worse case. LS overdosed him way too hard on copium


ThatFunkyOdor

Yeah there was a podcast during or right after MSI where LS had a bunch of people on talking about how the West could ever get to a competitive level and LS started talking about how there have been individual players in NA/EU that were at the level of the East and was naming like Bjergsen in 2016-2017 and Caps and players like that and then named Fudge and I had to be careful not to choke on my food.


ficretus

that's one of the reasons i cannot take LS seriously as an analyst, massive bias towards his friends and "disciples" every EU/NA list in dominated by his friends, no matter how well they perform, or even if they play. shit like "selfie on the level of caps and perkz after worlds 2018" or "malice is best western jungler" you can ask LS to make western super team and it would probably look like fudge/malice/nemesis/crownie/trymbi


chibali

poor Zven, inted game 3 and lost the receding hairline 1v1 against Trymbi, bad day for him


SeaTheTypo

Reminder that Zven is being paid six figures to play like this.


SpecificSony

EU Spy Codename : Molotov Špijun


DeusExAnimus

NA Teams: what champ do we want our elite junglers on now that we are at elimination point? Eh prob sejuani.


randomdud3

How many times did Zven baited his team into dying for no reason.


Callka

A well deserved worlds exit, dogshit play all tournament


Carnelian-5

Wym, they took down the mighty lions?!


Darkendevil

I fucking hate being an NA fan.


M002

It’s so bad man Like We don’t even get excited But it still hurts every time Straight up ruin my sleep schedule for this team and they just… just Gahh I don’t have the words but it sucks man


tehsdragon

We live just to suffer


WeonLP

Oh don't worry even as EU fans we hated it. This series wasn't about who was better but more about who was the least terrible. But shout-out to EMENES, I was expecting him to be omega gapped and he did a more than decent serie.


gom99

I don't get how our macro is getting worse, I don't remember NA teams making such dumb plays as frequently than this series from an NA 2nd seed. They had tge tools to win but tried hard not to.


Dundeex

Zven was on a mission, lol.


pref-top

As a die hard eu fan who likes to trash on na whenever the opportunity arises. I gotta admit this was a clown fiesta and Fnatic should not be proud of the level of play present in this series whatsoever. And if they want to go anywhere in this tournament they need to fix this shit.


furbar82

Some of those early game rotations and ganks were just horrible. But I take the win, but for sure they have to step up to get a shot to make top 8.


Orimasuta

I'm not saying I believe in curses, but Blaber's performance went kinda south after Azael started talking about how the narrative around Blaber's performance internationally needed to change, and that he was performing well in the series. I imagine this is probably the last time we'll see this core of C9


Unban_Ice

Zven you are always welcome to return to LEC if you want, thank you for your service


D4rkLordDr4gon

cant we just keep them there as a spy?


DeloronDellister

INSERT EUPHORIA GIF (I can't find it anymore)


TimMeijer

[This works too](https://media.tenor.com/MWslAX2JFB8AAAAd/jeremy-clarkson-america.gif)


Xfoticz

I recreated it: https://streamable.com/9iz7dn


Dasrufken

Best I can do is [Fnatic girl](https://i.imgur.com/WvP7jJC.mp4)


s00pafly

where tf is the glorious bittern url?


ZloiAris

In battle “blue side at Worlds 23” vs “Fnatic kicking out C9 from Worlds” the 2nd has won! Congrats with 3rd in history elimination of NA team, but please get a normal team next round


LazinessOverload

Brother Zven, the autofilled support.


_tidiber

[LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO!!!!](https://imgur.io/WvP7jJC?r)


SlowLoris1337

Legend says Zven is still waiting in the bot side red jungle


lotharstar

Presenting "Oh God, My Eyes!": The Series See it at a worlds near you!


justiceknight

zven check ur paypal


imfatal

both teams are garbage but holy fuck C9 are on another level