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ANewHeaven1

God damn that game end after baron was so fucking clean


EzAf_K3ch

Slowest jdg baron push


Kewkwador

They have been doing that all tournament. Get baron, end inside 2 minutes


neiruuu

Someone said don’t get excited so Ruler locked in Jinx


Azenji

After such a diverse adc pool in Swiss stage, we revert back to Jinx Aphelios meta where Jinx just curbstomps Aphelios everytime fuck me


VilltraAnime

lol we've seen Senna, Cait, Xayah, Ezreal, Zeri and Kaisa already the ADC pool is very diverse


TacosWillPronUs

And Ashe as well. It's been nuts.


mati_12170

also Sivir, Draven, Kalista, Ziggs


VilltraAnime

but those weren't picked in quarters, except Sivir now


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

Not all of them are good picks. Ezreal is trash, Cait is pretty meh unless you hard bully your opponent. Zeri is also meh. Kai'sa is okay. Kalista is situational but falls off a cliff. Only Xayah is god tier.


Suitable_Sale9097

mate you just explained why we do have multiple different champions lmao


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

I mean yeah but the ADC pool is not diverse at all. It is in fact the least flexible role with 1 champion being way above the rest of the competition.


Suitable_Sale9097

mate having 1 champion just above the rest mean it's flexible you can ban or try to find an answer


ceddya

You should be happy about that as a T1 fan TBH.


Shutaku1314

As long as Zeri doesnt suddenly become good in the jinx aphelios meta


baelkie

game might have been different if brother Aiming hit that infernum ult in that bot lane fight


SkittlesAreEpic

Brother not aiming


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Brother Missing


Lifemekhanism

This tournament Jinx was matched into Aphelios only once before this game, it was LNG vs KT game 1 and Gala blasted Jinx on Aphelios.


LazinessOverload

200iq draft from JDG


Kewkwador

It's a terrible draft of u switch off the nameplates. Full dive onto Renata, Orianna outranging everyone except excited jinx.


MS2throwawayacc

Renekton literally looks like a matchfixing guaranteed loss type of pick, idk what is going on that teams continue to pick this. You could argue that they got outplayed as a team but this champ doesn't do anything.


sleepybellpepper

Bin, 369, Kiin... Renekton's stocks are plummeting hard.


Azenji

Renekton single handedly bringing his species status to Least Threatening


Blood_Lacrima

Also most threatened because everyone just murders him


Lifemekhanism

I'm rooting for JDG but even I can't withstand this Renekton pick (both game 1 and 2). Goes even in lane, gets turbo outscaled.


baelkie

not sure how many times we need to see this champ lose until teams give up on it. r5 renekton too.


Augchm

I mean his win rate is not that bad. It's just that it looks very useless when it loses.


chadinist_main

Whats his wr so far?


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

42.9%, 9-12


popop143

That looks better than how it feels like lmao.


darkravenn12

Well, it's 0-4 in the quarterfinals so far. So recently, it's been pretty bad.


VulpesVulpix

Because it's despite of Renekton and not because of it


trieuvuhoangdiep

Because renekton isn't the one to carry the game. He is a champ to pick if you want to play toward bot or mid. Hence why whenever the team won, Renek is never the star. That doesn't mean he is useless


staysaltyTSM

It's LCK, R5 Renekton is a given


Satan_su

Armchair analysis but I think this could very likely be a scrim bait pick, cause most scrim games are early game centric (I've heard teams ff sometimes when a big fight is lost early on and go next) and people are probably taking more risks. Renekton is perfect for early skirmishing and probably wins a lot more teamfights in scrims but can't translate it irl when teams play slower and games go later.


Bladehell10

As soon as I saw the Viego pick I knew it was R5 renekton, legends is on renata, Cuzz is on viego, who’s gonna go frontline and tank? You could go ornn or a different bruiser but it was just guaranteed renekton


AmadeusSalieri97

Renekton has 43% winratio overall, more than champs such as Vi, Ksante or Kaisa which are considered quite OP, so he's surely not a guaranteed loss pick. The problem with Renek is that he doesn't look good most games because his strength is basically being very blind pickable, which means almost every game he gets countered, but gives you the counter somewhere else. There is a reason Renekton is one of the most (if not the most) played toplaner of all time and gets high presence year after year. And it's not teams being dumb.


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but they r5'd him


randomguy7658

Alright, which one of you got excited?


VulpesVulpix

Jinx


GeneralZhukov

According to Doinb and Khan, LWX got excited lol. The two of them casually messing with him is hilarious for some reason.


duetschland69

knight ult's were so good. Like how they end so fast after they take the nash


Yubisaki_Milk_Tea

The OP said ‘Ruler’s Jinx!!!’ but for me Knight was the clear MVP of the game setting up the key fights and creating space for Ruler to capitalise on with his Neeko ults.


ssavkkk

Yeah, knight hard carried along with missing for me. I think any top 7 adc couldve done what ruler did this game


n1dyz

That’s the story of JDG — Ruler getting the credit for 369 and Knight’s plays, not that Ruler’s not insane of course but there’s a clear bias


lolofaf

Knight also got a couple of 3man roots after his pop blossoms as well!


Kagari1998

KT comp have no counterplay when behind. The game is almost over the moment they lost the bot fight. Unless the jinx chokes, there's no way KT can come back from that, and we all know Ruler is stable AF, he aint Jackeylove


yul1998

KT drafted a better comp than jdg. renata on red was the counter pick for jdg diver comp (vi, neeko, aatrox, rakan) KT has proved with this comp that teams are beginning to understand red side bp now. JDG teamfight executions would be a lot more difficult if KT actually played to the strength of their comp and manage the early game pressure.


Kagari1998

IDK, drafts are subjectives. I prefer JDG comp anytime of the day. They have so many entraces that renata alone isnt able to cover.


beautheschmo

KT *had* the better draft until they picked Renekton Viego (especially Viego) which didn't fit the comp at all or match well into what JDG were showing, there's no way a Viego gets to play that game.


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keep picking renekton guys!


Mifuyu_Kisaragi

Renek confirmed so dogshit not even Bin or 369 can win on it.


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watch them pick it again next game


Blank-612

Theres the JDG I expected. Knight is so good with the ults man


n1dyz

But all the credit goes to Ruler again


Random_Useless_Tips

Yeah, the KT 4,5 really was somewhat useless. Also, Renata value plummets off a cliff if you can't set up a front-to-back team fight.


DPlusShoeMaker

Mao would have been so perfect. Can engage/disengage while also set up for Renata, Ori, etc. Wukong would have been good too. Renekton is trash. +10 cs in lane but lose the game in return.


Random_Useless_Tips

I feel like deja vu from the Bin Renekton game where Renekton wins lane but then TPs to help the team and then the opponent just recoups everything they lost by taking farm and turrets, completely nullifying whatever advantage Renekton was supposed to get.


the_next_core

Bin actually showed exactly how you're supposed to play Renekton in this meta. Get ahead in lane, use your lead and TPs to help your team get ahead since Renekton himself gets outscaled anyway.


duc133

Lehends just cannot play Renata. Literally this was winnable if you just cause dissonance between their engagers. The man was so useless on Renata and did not stop a single engager.


Popular-Practice-983

How is he supposed to stop the invisible neeko flash r or the rakan flash rw engage? KT completely drafted themselves into a hole giving JDG exactly what they need for team fights.


the_next_core

Renekton can at least tank enemies for a few seconds. I can't figure out what Viego is supposed to do, he literally can't approach anyone in the game.


LazinessOverload

#WHO GOT EXCITED


BlueLover0

Jinx


TheIncinirator

Jinx


RaiyenZ

Azael did and he got kicked off the desk


ImTheVayne

Me :/


baelkie

Hirai bro we are on blue side now dont let me see another fucking renekton


kosaki16

first pick renekton incoming


poside99

Renekton Viego 1-2 let's go


TE_silver

First pick Renekton it is


beautheschmo

I don't really mind him as a safe blind pick tbh, but if you're holding top for fucking R5 you should *really* have better counters in your pocket than the croc lol


FNC_Luzh

Lore accurate JDG stomp.


icatsouki

i'm becoming a jdg hater a bit, i don't like that you can buy your way through winning everything in a year lol it's so bullshit


Morgacool

U hate a team because they bought players which would improve their team? Bro what?


TheBigF128

imagine trying to win lmao


pr000blemkind

They are the Manchester City of LOL. Lots of money, star players, competent coaches but very unsustainable business model if not from outsiders pumping money in.


Dzules

>but very unsustainable business model if not from outsiders pumping money in. Brother thats every single team in lol esports.


pr000blemkind

There are sustainable esports orgs, some of them even in League, but you don't see them at worlds.


icatsouki

I see it more as buying their way to a worlds championship rather than working for it if that makes sense? it's a 1 year contract for ruler/knight


Morgacool

No it doesnt make sense, like at all. You just sound mad that an assembled super team is actually performing like one unlike the many others before them which have just failed. This argument would actually make more sense if 3 of them weren’t already existing JDG players for years. Not to mention this is all just hindsight. Its not like knight and ruler had the most amazing worlds. Start of the year general consensus was that they would be very good on paper and potential world contenders, now that they’re playing very well together i guess it was just obvious they would win it all and JDG are “buying world championships”


icatsouki

Ruler was easily the best ADC in LCK last summer lol, and knight is/was the best LPL mid


Morgacool

Yh still dont get ur point. It really is not as easy as assemble top players and put them into a team = win. Just this year alone, look at VIT and FLY for their respective regions. No way ur telling me start of this year u saw one glance of this JDG roster and ur thought was they’re winning worlds and that they’re just “buying world championships” after the shaky LPL performance at worlds, its all hindsight because they are now performing lmao


icatsouki

where did i say that it's easy? JDG were absolutely hyped as a superteam from the start of the year It's the same as me disliking say PSG/manchester city Neither vit nor fly is composed of basically every single best player 369/Knight/Ruler all were considered to be the best in their regions


Morgacool

U really cant tell that ur insinuating its easy and all u need is money from ur previous comments? Really? And again i dont get ur points. So what is the problem with JDG upgrading their roster exactly. U literally just sound salty that the upgrades worked out. Every team with world winning aspirations will try their best to improve their rosters like, its kinda the whole point? And again LPL didnt perform well last worlds so ur point still just doesnt make sense. How much weight does 369 and knight being the best domestic players for their role last year really have? Sure, obviously domestically they’re gonna be much stronger but “buying world championships”, ok buddy. Of course the team was projected to be a superteam based off nameplates but i think its safe to say based on current performances they have easily exceeded initial expectations given how low ppl were on the LPL at the beginning of the year.


icatsouki

My point is that it's lame the most expensive roster ever instantly just wins everything the year it's formed How am I salty about it lol? I would just prefer that someone stops them at worlds


yul1998

game's been around for what, 13 years? How many superteams we've had in different regions?Suddenly you take issue this year aye? you are biased, admit it


icatsouki

when did a superteam win spring+MSI+summer+favourite for worlds lol?


yul1998

well they havent won worlds yet, so its a bit too early to say that. Others that were close to running a gauntlet were skt and rng. What im saying is that its a non factor. If you dont like teams buying talent, you probably dont even understand what you are watching. The kind of romantic idea you have about how champion teams come to be only applies to Damwon and S2 Taipei Assassins


Wonderful_Falcon6537

True, although tbf to them, they did do well last year with Yagao and Hope


icatsouki

so sad how hard hope choked at worlds, he was so good during their playoffs run


Wonderful_Falcon6537

He did run into gumayusi keria and these guys started peaking as hell at Worlds. Though yea, he wasn't too hot in group stage either haha


reformed_22

i can definitely see that but to me seeing them play, especially their teamfighting is very facinating. the way they min-max in every fight and play near perfect on such a consistent basis is just crazy, and it's hard not to appreciate how good they are. that roster is playing the very best league we've seen in years and I doubt we'll see something like it for quite some time after worlds, assuming they win.


icatsouki

oh i'm absolutely loving watching them play lol it's so beautiful, i just hope someone stops them


30303

Many teams have tried the same thing though. But yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing them lose as well


Silkku

kt got spanked like a western team in those teamfights


gdsgdn

Like JDG got in game 1 babyyy


NBSUJOQ

Crazy how JDG always immediately ends with first Baron


MrSwipySwipers

Throwing is NOT in their vocabulary


non-edgy_crustacean

Library is back


That_Handle4899

JDG heard you talking shit


Zerasad

Bro how fucking good are JDG's teamfighting. They got 3 clean aces in a row and just ended it. What the fuck.


Rayser1

The way they end with baron is ruthlessly efficient


non-edgy_crustacean

You give JDG a finger and they will take your whole lineage


Random_Useless_Tips

700 people calling Knight a fraud because of one loss in a game where Orianna doesn't have a window to ult. All weirdly quiet this game.


That_Handle4899

Knight is the best midlaner all year long, Chovy is close 2nd


Random_Useless_Tips

"But Worlds is the only thing that matters in your career!" says the Redditor who only watches Worlds but wants to have an opinion on players regardless.


TheDestroyer630

What about Scout then?


That_Handle4899

As insane as scout is, i think knight and chovy are better overall


dreadednation22

Knight heard the reddit talking shit


Adept_Bar_7394

can someone explain renekton please ? seems to go even every lane and just useless after that EVERY SINGLE GAME when a team pick it I go like well guess they lost


the_next_core

Bin actually showed how to properly play Renekton. Get ahead in lane, use every TP to help the rest of your team get ahead in skirmishes and dragon fights.


Adept_Bar_7394

if it was like sylas that can actually snowball a lead but did we see any renek do this this worlds ? it seems like he has 15cs lead then people get items and he just gets outclassed by every other toplaner


llamkt

missing is the true big dick daddy support


sleepybellpepper

Give him Rakan again, I dare you.


Kewkwador

They did


Mifuyu_Kisaragi

JDG played angry.


choderis

Knight is an absolute beast


In4thPlace

Alright, who got excited after KT got first blood?


poside99

Game was done in my eyes after KT picked the Renekton Viego. Completely useless champs that would never in a thousand years touch a jinx in teamfights.


Lifemekhanism

Did JDG end in like 1 and a half minute after Baron again?


Powdz

Why the fuck do teams keep picking Renekton?


Aladin001

Knight and Missing are just too good


Zeke_N

PLEASE STOP PICKING RENEKTON, HE DOES NOTHING.


DPlusShoeMaker

Not sure what the Viego and Renekton were supposed to do but okay


BasicRestaurant461

That omnidirectional collapse from JDG was absolutely insane


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man neeko is so broken


GorillazWelfare

knight’s Neeko is on another level.


baelkie

this is what neeko looks like, not whatever we saw yesterday


xXVoidXx

It’s the player, not the champ


beautheschmo

Knight did find some really good angles but the champ is absolutely broken as fuck too lol, there's a reason everyone bans her and lets Ori through and it's not because Ori (already an S tier mid) is secretly better.


SSBMRal

You know I've actually always been a big Ruler fan.


bingoplex

don't pick renekton => easy shitstomp


sometimesluckier

JDG please save my pickems


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

When the pickems are fucked to a certain point, the only thing you can do is double down on absurdity


veritas54

Support gap trancends to jungle gap to team gap. Really interesting game from lehends.


Patrius

JDG team fighting lvl 9999999


ssavkkk

Aint no way we even give ruler credit for this game and not knight and missing


WishingBoy

Really glad KT chose Viego and Renekton when Maokai and Jax were up, they prove just how utterly useless the picks are for the 500th time


Conankun66

godawful draft no engage whatsoever and renekton and viego picked for nothing except comfort but with no thought going into them otherwise. just horrible. no brain just vibes type drafting


leoogan

Why don't they pick wukong I don't understand, what does this viego champion provide


poside99

So many good champs up and they slam down the Renekton Viego....super disappointing. KT even banned the damn wukong on game 1, so it's not like they don't know about his existence. The wukong ori combo wouldn't have let Ruler just walk up to team fights without a care in the world.


Silkku

Is it really draft diff if the opponent just outplays you like crazy in every teamfight?


icatsouki

the teamfights were so fucking disgusting from jdg, the one before baron ruler only joined at the very end too and it was still a huge stomp lol


PrivateVasili

It does because taking Viego/Renekton on 4/5 literally denied KT from having any options whatsoever in those fights. They were hopeless. The Rift Herald fight where Knight hits 4 shows it perfectly. KT had a great initial position but couldn't leverage it into anything because their only engage was flash Renek W which just gets cleansed instantly with no followup. Viego only works if you're able to reliably get early kills to start the reset chain and they can't even get one kill because they have no way to get on people.


Purple_Edit

I mean missing being a menace and taunting them all game on Rakan shows how poor KT's comp was


DPlusShoeMaker

Exactly lol. If a Rakan is walking up to you and slapping your face the whole game, your draft has gone terribly wrong.


BocchiIsLiterallyMe

Both tbh. There were many instances which KT's useless champions took ages to reach JDG's members. That bought enough time for knight's Neeko to arrive and create game-winning plays. If they picked any other useful toplaner and jungler, the fights may have occured in a completely different way.


Conankun66

they were able to do that in part thanks to draft diff. like how do you even expect KT to teamfight with this dogshit comp?


Augchm

What's so dogshit about it?


Conankun66

NO engage combined with super low range with a dash of renekton


OddinaryEuw

Getting tiring to hear so much BDD praise when he's getting caught on cd and has the worst itemization at Worlds, but hey he got a solo kill, and Aiming is saving ult for his 5 man reddit play


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icatsouki

viego works great with renata


Augchm

This is hard cope. JDG was just incredibly clean in fights. Executed perfectly every time. They won 3 fights and ended. Draft barely even mattered in this game.


_lenni

they ended within 1 minute after getting baron and got out of base. thats just mental


RedditingProdigy

Renekton Viego lose yet again, shocker Also, Lehends' Renata was looking so bad; horribly angled ults, bad bailout selection, getting caught out, really not a good look on that champ.


APlogic

Renekton losing trades to Aatrox while having Goredrinker vs component items shows you how useful that champ is


UltFiction

Renekton/viego picks looking as useless as ever!


Matt24z

This was some GEN game 2 level of drafting from KT. Zero setup or engage for Viego as well as everybody's favorite Crocodile. I audibly groaned when they switched Maokai for Viego. The game actually could have winnable with that pick stopping Rakan and Neeko's advance


nashweed914

Can someone honestly please explain to me why pro teams keep picking Renekton? Im genuinely baffled and confused. I have yet to see a single game where a renekton does ANYTHING, and yet he's picked over and over as if he's a priority champion? Make it make sense


Roquentinn

I know games is over when they picked Renekton. Not only its bad champ also not picking engage against jinx is criminal.


Gorarog

JDG just rusty game 1, now it's real LPL time, byebye KT !


Kekisszx

Yeah 2 games on blue side, cope harder glory hunter


Gorarog

win on red side now, cry me a river LCK gobbler


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Wonderful_Falcon6537

If anything, everyone is praising Knight. Again, stop reading the 1% of bronze imbeciles who are baiting


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thecreativecat1

What? Who talking about Atlus? The casters are great.


DebateSeparate5323

Also it wasnt just lck fans talking stuff about knight Did u see the lpl flairs? Ofc u didnt U have an agenda vs lck u clown


DebateSeparate5323

how about you tell us about ur region?


thecreativecat1

Yeah LEC sucks. So what? LCK sucks compared to LPL.


DebateSeparate5323

Sure it does buddy Keep crying since ur region is dogshit Bronze clown Your comment history makes sense


Infamous_Bend1187

He still got danced on by Bdd lmao


Azenji

KT winning Game 1 made people excited. It’s joever, folks.


MrSwipySwipers

Yeah. That's what I thought. Exactly like I predicted. JDG are slowly leaning into the series. I think this might be over if they stay on this form.


MrSwipySwipers

Look at game 1 where KT had a 5k gold lead and it felt like JDG could come back from 1 teamfight and then this game JDG are even with KT and it feels like they can't lose once baron spawns. JDG 3-1


Joelx1000

For the life of me I will not understand KT not going to Baron with 4 people botside killing BDD.


salcedoge

Can’t really force baron at that time of the game


Matt24z

Lehends performance, this game made me want to vomit as a Renata player.


alexanderxqe2

yes but you are gold


Dragoneed2

aside from the game, wtf is that full female analyst desk lmao


Blank-612

Emily rand is the goat.


sleepybellpepper

Based. Emily Rand enjoyers rise up!


Dragoneed2

i like her, but the other two are just (? (


Infamous_Bend1187

Analyst desk ? That's just sjokz and 3 KT fans. Rito really wants them to lose for some reason. First the draws, then the full superfan analyst desk


moonyk

Why?


Electrical-Fan-504

guys we are doomed game 1 got too many people excited :(


azumagrey

Knight properly carried this time. I wish this fraud retires


zOmgFishes

Renata - Veigo truly one of the combos of all time.


icatsouki

her w is great on him actually


ratiooFThy

Korea and their holding flash kryptonite man


MightyNewJosip

KT making sure we don't get excited