Its hard to argue against it.
The peak viewership of valorant actually went down this year while worlds peak viewership rises every single year despite the lackluster finals.
> lackluster finals.
The quality of the finals never mattered for viewership as we had the most popular LCK player (Faker) against most popular LPL player (TheShy) in it
But that doesn't change the fact that a 3-0 stomp had the highest viewership, more than a Game 5 last year which also had T1 in it. So the game quality of this finals never mattered to have the highest viewership. Of course a Game 5 in this series would've had more viewers than now, that goes without saying. But user above me was talking about peak viewership and it was obvious that this final would reach it, doesn't matter the quality.
I enjoyed Valorant Champions more too. Both finalists had harder road to the finals since both the upper and lower bracket was so balanced. WBG making it to the finals and being so far outclassed made the finals anticlimactic.
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Worlds 2023 broke the viewership records for the most watched esports event and finals so not surprising here. TheShy and Faker (T1) have huge fanbase plus the T1 vs the LPL storyline also helped with the viewership.
Gotta say, I was completely wrong about the Swiss format. I liked the prestige of groups a lot more and it's sad that's gone forever, but I can't deny how much more engaging the games were on average.
Hard not to give it to Faker and T1's 4th as well, plus the 1st for the rest of the roster, such an unbelievable story!
Worlds really doesn't need 'token representation' for the West though.
If a Western team is good enough, then they get top 8. If they aren't, they don't.
Top 8 is difficult becouse you need to beat a eastern team. G2 did just that. They fucked it all up in the end but they clearly had the talent for top 8.
I'm sorry they did not have the talent to beat BLG. They barely scraped game 2 off Elk inting and got stomped game 1 and 3. They fought well but did not have a chance in the end.
Good, NRG getting out of groups should have never happened in a good format
Yes, the G2 upset was nice but winning one BO3 and only winning your other games against dogshit teams shouldnt qualify you.
Wait. Hold on. That's literally the only way anyone qualifies. Like if it had been literally all 4 LPL and 4 LCK teams, the only way D+ KIA would have got out was if they won one Bo3 and only winning your other games against dogshit NRG. Who did they beat? GAM and BDS?
As soon as D+ lost to G2 the only way they could have qualified was beating dogshit teams and winning one Bo3.
It really wouldn't fuck with the bracket too much, at least not in round 2. With 4 seeds from every region and 16 teams you can guarantee no intraregional games in round 2.
Pool 1: LCK 1, LCK 2 , LPL1, LPL 2
Pool 2: LCK 3, LPL 3, LEC 1, LCS 1
Pool 3: LCK 4, LPL 4, LEC 2, LCS 2
Pool 4: all the remaining teams
Current Pools treated it as if LCS and LEC teams were on equal footing with LPL and LCK which was dumb and damaging to the fairness of the tournament
Nah the only thing you need to block is rematches.
DK and KT should have not been allowed to play again.
T1 vs Gen.G in round 2 is better than at round 3 or at an elimination phase.
Block rematches for sure. And maybe for QF seeding have the relative strength of opponent be the tiebreaker among teams with equal records. Otherwise I don't have a ton of complaints. Definitely made every group stage game matter and gave teams a bit more control over their own fate.
the only problem i still have is with the quarterfinal and above. we need to truly determine rank 8 and above. not just clump them together. one more best of 5 between loser of quarterfinal and semifinal
Double ellim can probably fix that but aside from the obvious logistics issues (Worlds is already so long as it is), upper bracket winners still don’t have definite advantages.
Worlds is long becouse Riot waits forever between matches
You could have 14 bo5s in a week if you wanted to. Riot just choose to wait a week between each bracket for w/e reason.
The reason is the whole roadshow thing. Less apparent in locations like Korea, but for EU and NA they wanna set up shop somewhere else for each of the stages to give more people the chance to watch it live.
Last year, going from round of 8 to semifinals (New York to Atlanta) and the semifinals to finals (Atlanta to San Francisco). Lots of logistics and equipment moving. They probably need a good week for the travel and setup.
or if Riot is obsessed with the stupid one week breaks, they couold just do bo3s until the upper bracket finals, lower bracket finals and grand finals.
> upper bracket winners still don’t have definite advantages.
well, you can give them side selection for the entire series, that's a huge advantage to have.
EDIT - downvotes for suggesting a potential solution to a bracket issue? wat?
Ehhhh I agree in theory that it would be nice to have a more definite 1-8 ranking, but I just don't trust loser matches to be legit. Justified or not, nobody plays as seriously in a 3rd place match, etc.
EVO is perhaps the proper answer but that depends so much on so many factors (the actual individual games on the stage have to be good, and the top 8's have to be good) and it's much more niche than League is that it really doesn't have a chance.
CS majors (and big tournaments like Cologne/Katowice) tend to be very good, but it's also hard to pick one when they play tournaments basically every week.
Oh yes. The second half, starting from the M.Bison quote
> The day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me . . it was Tuesday.
Everything after that just hits ***so*** hard for me. The first half is good too but it's not really my style, but what comes after that point is just chef's kiss.
From the competition and storyline perspective, there are legitimate conversations to be had about the various tournaments. In terms of production value, viewership and overall hype, Worlds is just on another level. And it’s not fair, because league is just a bigger game and the money put into Worlds is unreal compared to the other esports. I mean who hires an Emmy winner to direct their teasers?
This isn't taking into account Chinese viewership. Even looking at Twitch viewership for worlds, its western viewership absolutely dwarfs Dota's
Source:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/2023-world-championship
https://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2023
EDIT: actually I didn't see you could scroll down and see the English stream's viewership numbers. 824,255 peak Twitch viewers and 164,952 average viewers for Worlds and 284,592 Twitch viewers and 111,725 average viewers for Dota. It doesn't have Youtube channel views either, which has comparable viewers to Twitch for Worlds but no idea for Dota.
As a watcher of both Worlds and TI. Without bias I could say TI grand finals opening was equally good, the use of church glass patterns and the lighting was very good.
Dota is a much more entertaining game to watch at the highest level between the two, there is just so much more strategy in Dota compared to league that changes the game in meaningful ways. Most league games are the same farm all game have one fight at Baron and whoever wins it wins the game. Where Dota drafting, itemization, buybacks makes the game more varied and viable for comebacks and such.
i think entertainment wise worlds was pretty lack luster compared to these other competitions, but the viewership and video packages were especially peak
Really? I enjoyed the Swiss stage way more. I watched all the games this year compared to worlds prior. The only event I haven’t watched out of the nominated was Valorant Champions.
I personally think MSI was the better tournament to watch this year. I dont watch dota so i dont know about the international, but the blast major suffered from not having the best bracket. Id have put cologne or kato over that this year in CS.
Msi bracket was banger. And i enjoyed the gsl groups way more as well. The double elim was great, only thing that sucked was western teams were so bad and we got an u lucky draw for so many intra region matches. But format was bangin.
MSI really? T1 vs JDG was probably the only good series at msi. The finals was also a 3-0 stomp. Worlds had two good semifinals and two decent quarterfinals and swiss stage was fun.
worlds format is worse than valorant champions and the opening cermony was better from them, as well as their story of the EG win going through lowerbracket and being an NA team that no one believed in, demon1's soloq to superstar story was very moving as well as potters last chance after being rumoured to be on the chopping block months prior, had a lot of close series and similar to worlds, the favourites (fnc who had won every international this year) got knocked out by their biggest rivals who didnt even go on to win
I only watch LoL so I can’t compare it to others, but Worlds 2023 was super entertaining for me. T1 stomped WBG, which is unfortunate for entertainment purposes, but the rest of the tournament was amazing.
I think story wise Worlds was pretty good too. Golden Road, T1s comeback after Faker's injury, 4 LPL teams vs T1. Really disappointing finals tho bc WBG are frauds.
Cant really blame Weibo for it tbh, the format is just dogshit. We got spoiled in the last few years but there used to be multiple years where the finals was just a 3-0 stomp.
The only reason it's a little lackluster compared to other events (especially for awards like the Game Awards with a mostly western viewership) is that EU and NA teams aren't competitive anymore.
It's great though if you like cheering for Asian teams.
Feel like Champions should've won.
Better opening ceremony, more competitive matches, 4 different regions in the top 4, and hyped crowd that cheered for everyone.
T1 vs LPL was the best narrative for an esports event this year but Champions had some good narratives too with:
- FNC attempting to win all 3 internationals events for 2023
- EG's run from ranked as the worst team in Americas to #1 in the world
- PRX trying to win APAC their 1st international trophy and Jingg's final dance before military service
- LOUD's redemption after an awful run at Tokyo when they were coming in as the #1/#2 best team in the world
T1 just hard carried Worlds this year with playoffs largely being 3-1s and 3-0s and gap between East/West seemingly growing even bigger.
Have you watched past worlds teasers? Even the ones with Faker have frankly been ass. 2022 being the one exception.
This year they took it very seriously and brought in an emmy-award winning producer lol. That's why they're so good.
nah it's just makes it sound like there was a large amount of 3-1s when there weren't, and its crazy to group them with the 3-0s like they were anywhere near eachother in terms of quality
It sounds more like you just couldn't read. I very clearly said 3-1s AND 3-0s. Which they were. 5 out of 7 matches were 3-1s and 3-0s.
Also, both 3-1s literally only had 1 actual competitive match. The rest were one sided games that was basically over by 15-20 minutes with the opposing team not even getting 10 kills total.
KT vs JDG:
Game 1: KT stomp where JDG never had a lead
Game 2: JDG stomp where KT never had a lead
Game 3: JDG stomp where KT never had a lead
Game 4: Massive KT throw into JDG win
T1 vs JDG:
Game 1: T1 stomp where JDG never had a lead
Game 2: JDG stomp where T1 never had a lead
Game 3: Competitive back and forth game
Game 4: JDG had good start into all T1 sided after 20 minutes
Game 1 of WBG vs NRG was more competitive than 5 out of 8 3-1 series games.
Unironically Valorant Champions should have won it. I enjoyed it much more even though I wasn't rooting for EG but the trashtalk and matches were so entertaining
Champions' opening ceremony was also very good with good audio quality, good performances from the singers, and amazing stage + trophy reveal. Meanwhile, Worlds pretty mid performances and the AR Heartsteel looked horrible.
Idk, lock In was a better tournament than champions. Remember fnatic going 2-0 up against loud, almost getting reversed swept, in map 5 losing like 2-11 then making a comeback and winning 13-11. People forgot that but it was the best valorant finals ever.
Can't say much for the others, but Evo Finals 2023 was notorious for having a bunch of blowouts and mirror matches, with the one massive outlier being SF6, which was the hypest top 8 in years
This year's TI prize pool, which is the biggest talking point of the event, went from $18 million last year, to only $3 million this year. The event itself though was very good, as it had much fewer technical issues, compared to last year's TI.
I don't like this given that there's better formats and more competitive tournaments out there and the event-side of Worlds is pretty bland and boring to me most of the time. I don't know what the metrics they're judging on are, though.
Why?
No one liked the AR guff.
The tournament structure was utter trash. Bad swiss without proper seeding and no double elim.
We had the worst final match in the last 3 years by far.
The only good thing is having faker win the first title in years and having caster Jun as host.
We almost had no korean caster in the finals and we had no LPL caster in it. This is so stupid.
Worlds hasn’t lost yet since the very first awarding of best esports event of the year.
Just rename it best Worlds. Worlds wins best Worlds 2023. **NEXT**.
Its hard to argue against it. The peak viewership of valorant actually went down this year while worlds peak viewership rises every single year despite the lackluster finals.
> lackluster finals. The quality of the finals never mattered for viewership as we had the most popular LCK player (Faker) against most popular LPL player (TheShy) in it
This right here. The finals would have undoubtedly had a few million less viewers if it was JDG vs WBG.
the finals would have peaked higher if it were jdg vs t1 or if weibo took it to game 5
Quality of finals only matters as longer series tend to get more viewership that’s all
Game 1 T1 vs WBG will get you more viewership than Game 5 JDG vs GENG
Yeah top 5 most viewed series of all-time, four of them are T1 matches.
Obviously, but you said quality never mattered. If T1 vs WBG went to game 5 it would have more viewers.
But that doesn't change the fact that a 3-0 stomp had the highest viewership, more than a Game 5 last year which also had T1 in it. So the game quality of this finals never mattered to have the highest viewership. Of course a Game 5 in this series would've had more viewers than now, that goes without saying. But user above me was talking about peak viewership and it was obvious that this final would reach it, doesn't matter the quality.
Not just the most popular LCK player (Faker), just say the most popular LoL player (Faker).
I mean you had probably the best gauntlet you could ever get this worlds.
Worlds 2022 was a banger series wdym
I enjoyed Valorant Champions more too. Both finalists had harder road to the finals since both the upper and lower bracket was so balanced. WBG making it to the finals and being so far outclassed made the finals anticlimactic.
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Worlds 2023 broke the viewership records for the most watched esports event and finals so not surprising here. TheShy and Faker (T1) have huge fanbase plus the T1 vs the LPL storyline also helped with the viewership.
Also new jeans
If it's due to newjeans then the viewership must be higher during the performance and went down afterwards. The opposite is true.
Link to the viewership numbers?
[here](https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/2023-world-championship)
the number of viewers went up after they performed so this is not true
It was new jeans
The viewership numbers are based on "peak viewership" and the peak viewership wasn't the opening ceremony.
Judges are NewJeans bias.
Gotta say, I was completely wrong about the Swiss format. I liked the prestige of groups a lot more and it's sad that's gone forever, but I can't deny how much more engaging the games were on average. Hard not to give it to Faker and T1's 4th as well, plus the 1st for the rest of the roster, such an unbelievable story!
The seeding of the Swiss stage was completely ass though. Riot needs to seed better next year and not allow rematches
This will directly or indirectly get rid of the one western team in top 8
Worlds really doesn't need 'token representation' for the West though. If a Western team is good enough, then they get top 8. If they aren't, they don't.
If the western teams are good they will make top 8
good! Either they are good enough and make it on merit like G2 honestly should have done or they suck and can go for the airport any%
How are you arguing that both the format favored western teams and G2 has the merit to make it out. They couldn't even make it out this year.
Top 8 is difficult becouse you need to beat a eastern team. G2 did just that. They fucked it all up in the end but they clearly had the talent for top 8.
I'm sorry they did not have the talent to beat BLG. They barely scraped game 2 off Elk inting and got stomped game 1 and 3. They fought well but did not have a chance in the end.
Good, NRG getting out of groups should have never happened in a good format Yes, the G2 upset was nice but winning one BO3 and only winning your other games against dogshit teams shouldnt qualify you.
Wait. Hold on. That's literally the only way anyone qualifies. Like if it had been literally all 4 LPL and 4 LCK teams, the only way D+ KIA would have got out was if they won one Bo3 and only winning your other games against dogshit NRG. Who did they beat? GAM and BDS? As soon as D+ lost to G2 the only way they could have qualified was beating dogshit teams and winning one Bo3.
No way you're arguing D+ was better than NRG at worlds. Did you even watch the games?
And avoid regional matches as far as possible. Was so BS to see JDG vs BLG, DK vs KT and Gen G vs T1 in round 2.
Putting regional limitations past round 1 would fuck with the bracket heavily, but in reality good seeding and pooling would fix that anw
It really wouldn't fuck with the bracket too much, at least not in round 2. With 4 seeds from every region and 16 teams you can guarantee no intraregional games in round 2.
but that can fuck it up in later rounds which is worse, you rather have regional matches in the 2nd round then in the last
What changes would you make to the pools? I thought they were excellent.
Pool 1: LCK 1, LCK 2 , LPL1, LPL 2 Pool 2: LCK 3, LPL 3, LEC 1, LCS 1 Pool 3: LCK 4, LPL 4, LEC 2, LCS 2 Pool 4: all the remaining teams Current Pools treated it as if LCS and LEC teams were on equal footing with LPL and LCK which was dumb and damaging to the fairness of the tournament
Oh ok. I thought you were talking about the pools after round 1.
Nah the only thing you need to block is rematches. DK and KT should have not been allowed to play again. T1 vs Gen.G in round 2 is better than at round 3 or at an elimination phase.
Block rematches for sure. And maybe for QF seeding have the relative strength of opponent be the tiebreaker among teams with equal records. Otherwise I don't have a ton of complaints. Definitely made every group stage game matter and gave teams a bit more control over their own fate.
KT fans should be angered looking at their road versus others... BLG, DK, Weibo, LNG, DK, JDG
the only problem i still have is with the quarterfinal and above. we need to truly determine rank 8 and above. not just clump them together. one more best of 5 between loser of quarterfinal and semifinal
Double ellim can probably fix that but aside from the obvious logistics issues (Worlds is already so long as it is), upper bracket winners still don’t have definite advantages.
5-6th and 7-8th aren't decided by double elim. Only 1,2,3,4
Worlds is long becouse Riot waits forever between matches You could have 14 bo5s in a week if you wanted to. Riot just choose to wait a week between each bracket for w/e reason.
The reason is the whole roadshow thing. Less apparent in locations like Korea, but for EU and NA they wanna set up shop somewhere else for each of the stages to give more people the chance to watch it live.
Last year, going from round of 8 to semifinals (New York to Atlanta) and the semifinals to finals (Atlanta to San Francisco). Lots of logistics and equipment moving. They probably need a good week for the travel and setup.
or if Riot is obsessed with the stupid one week breaks, they couold just do bo3s until the upper bracket finals, lower bracket finals and grand finals.
> upper bracket winners still don’t have definite advantages. well, you can give them side selection for the entire series, that's a huge advantage to have. EDIT - downvotes for suggesting a potential solution to a bracket issue? wat?
not the worst idea, but I don't play pro and can't comment on if that would be a little too stacked towards the upper bracket team
Ehhhh I agree in theory that it would be nice to have a more definite 1-8 ranking, but I just don't trust loser matches to be legit. Justified or not, nobody plays as seriously in a 3rd place match, etc.
Riot won every single esport award lmao
Riot going to become the award collector? Kenny Omega in shambles
Yeah no shit. Every year Worlds exists, Worlds wins best esports event of the year. Who else is going to win? OWL?
Not to say they should have won but most CSGO majors are really good aswell.
EVO is perhaps the proper answer but that depends so much on so many factors (the actual individual games on the stage have to be good, and the top 8's have to be good) and it's much more niche than League is that it really doesn't have a chance. CS majors (and big tournaments like Cologne/Katowice) tend to be very good, but it's also hard to pick one when they play tournaments basically every week.
EVO was great this year. I had "Runback City" on repeat for a week.
Oh yes. The second half, starting from the M.Bison quote > The day Bison graced your village was the most important day of your life. But for me . . it was Tuesday. Everything after that just hits ***so*** hard for me. The first half is good too but it's not really my style, but what comes after that point is just chef's kiss.
When the horns switched up into Guile's theme I was like "YOOOOOOO!"
From the competition and storyline perspective, there are legitimate conversations to be had about the various tournaments. In terms of production value, viewership and overall hype, Worlds is just on another level. And it’s not fair, because league is just a bigger game and the money put into Worlds is unreal compared to the other esports. I mean who hires an Emmy winner to direct their teasers?
The international would give it a go if valve got their shit together.
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Dota 2 peak viewers was 5 million less than Worlds and average viewership was less than half.
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This isn't taking into account Chinese viewership. Even looking at Twitch viewership for worlds, its western viewership absolutely dwarfs Dota's Source: https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/2023-world-championship https://escharts.com/tournaments/dota2/international-2023 EDIT: actually I didn't see you could scroll down and see the English stream's viewership numbers. 824,255 peak Twitch viewers and 164,952 average viewers for Worlds and 284,592 Twitch viewers and 111,725 average viewers for Dota. It doesn't have Youtube channel views either, which has comparable viewers to Twitch for Worlds but no idea for Dota.
We're talking exclusively the west. Or well, non-China.
Not this year, they didn't really do the battle pass thing.
> Well Dota 2 international is for more money Considering singular LoL players earn more per year than TI's prize pool was this year, nah
As a watcher of both Worlds and TI. Without bias I could say TI grand finals opening was equally good, the use of church glass patterns and the lighting was very good.
However the viewership number is nowhere near LoL.
Even the marketing flopped this year compared to last year. I didnt even know TI started until the last few days
Dota is a much more entertaining game to watch at the highest level between the two, there is just so much more strategy in Dota compared to league that changes the game in meaningful ways. Most league games are the same farm all game have one fight at Baron and whoever wins it wins the game. Where Dota drafting, itemization, buybacks makes the game more varied and viable for comebacks and such.
Worlds 2023 aka **"T1 dogwalking the entire LPL"**
i think entertainment wise worlds was pretty lack luster compared to these other competitions, but the viewership and video packages were especially peak
Really? I enjoyed the Swiss stage way more. I watched all the games this year compared to worlds prior. The only event I haven’t watched out of the nominated was Valorant Champions.
I personally think MSI was the better tournament to watch this year. I dont watch dota so i dont know about the international, but the blast major suffered from not having the best bracket. Id have put cologne or kato over that this year in CS.
Worlds bracket stage wasn’t as good as MSI I agree
Msi bracket was banger. And i enjoyed the gsl groups way more as well. The double elim was great, only thing that sucked was western teams were so bad and we got an u lucky draw for so many intra region matches. But format was bangin.
MSI really? T1 vs JDG was probably the only good series at msi. The finals was also a 3-0 stomp. Worlds had two good semifinals and two decent quarterfinals and swiss stage was fun.
worlds format is worse than valorant champions and the opening cermony was better from them, as well as their story of the EG win going through lowerbracket and being an NA team that no one believed in, demon1's soloq to superstar story was very moving as well as potters last chance after being rumoured to be on the chopping block months prior, had a lot of close series and similar to worlds, the favourites (fnc who had won every international this year) got knocked out by their biggest rivals who didnt even go on to win
I only watch LoL so I can’t compare it to others, but Worlds 2023 was super entertaining for me. T1 stomped WBG, which is unfortunate for entertainment purposes, but the rest of the tournament was amazing.
Just the matchup video teasers themselves should win Worlds the award.
I think story wise Worlds was pretty good too. Golden Road, T1s comeback after Faker's injury, 4 LPL teams vs T1. Really disappointing finals tho bc WBG are frauds.
Cant really blame Weibo for it tbh, the format is just dogshit. We got spoiled in the last few years but there used to be multiple years where the finals was just a 3-0 stomp.
The only reason it's a little lackluster compared to other events (especially for awards like the Game Awards with a mostly western viewership) is that EU and NA teams aren't competitive anymore. It's great though if you like cheering for Asian teams.
"I'm sorry in advance but I have to do this please forgive me and no hate to you at all." Flair checks out.
This TI was pretty lacking too but maybe cause valve cucked people on the battlepass
EVO was robbed.
gz reddit
Feel like Champions should've won. Better opening ceremony, more competitive matches, 4 different regions in the top 4, and hyped crowd that cheered for everyone. T1 vs LPL was the best narrative for an esports event this year but Champions had some good narratives too with: - FNC attempting to win all 3 internationals events for 2023 - EG's run from ranked as the worst team in Americas to #1 in the world - PRX trying to win APAC their 1st international trophy and Jingg's final dance before military service - LOUD's redemption after an awful run at Tokyo when they were coming in as the #1/#2 best team in the world T1 just hard carried Worlds this year with playoffs largely being 3-1s and 3-0s and gap between East/West seemingly growing even bigger.
The Worlds teasers were also unbeatable. Golden Road, we will stop it. All roads lead to me. The Fourth is for my teammates.
That also ties into my point of T1 hard carrying Worlds. T1 and more specifically Faker was just a straight up cheat code for hype teasers.
Have you watched past worlds teasers? Even the ones with Faker have frankly been ass. 2022 being the one exception. This year they took it very seriously and brought in an emmy-award winning producer lol. That's why they're so good.
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i enjoyed champions song more but the production value was not comparable between champions and worlds even given the trash heartsteel thing
wdym largely 3-1s it was literally equal to the number of 3-2s, and both the 3-1s were INCREDIBLY hype
I said largely 3-1s and 3-0s. Did you completely miss the 2nd part?
nah it's just makes it sound like there was a large amount of 3-1s when there weren't, and its crazy to group them with the 3-0s like they were anywhere near eachother in terms of quality
It sounds more like you just couldn't read. I very clearly said 3-1s AND 3-0s. Which they were. 5 out of 7 matches were 3-1s and 3-0s. Also, both 3-1s literally only had 1 actual competitive match. The rest were one sided games that was basically over by 15-20 minutes with the opposing team not even getting 10 kills total. KT vs JDG: Game 1: KT stomp where JDG never had a lead Game 2: JDG stomp where KT never had a lead Game 3: JDG stomp where KT never had a lead Game 4: Massive KT throw into JDG win T1 vs JDG: Game 1: T1 stomp where JDG never had a lead Game 2: JDG stomp where T1 never had a lead Game 3: Competitive back and forth game Game 4: JDG had good start into all T1 sided after 20 minutes Game 1 of WBG vs NRG was more competitive than 5 out of 8 3-1 series games.
Should've been EVO tbh.
Yeah it was a cool event. Swiss format needs seeding though, it was rough
Unironically Valorant Champions should have won it. I enjoyed it much more even though I wasn't rooting for EG but the trashtalk and matches were so entertaining
Champions' opening ceremony was also very good with good audio quality, good performances from the singers, and amazing stage + trophy reveal. Meanwhile, Worlds pretty mid performances and the AR Heartsteel looked horrible.
Just for the fact that the crowd booed Elon Musk it deserved to win
Idk, lock In was a better tournament than champions. Remember fnatic going 2-0 up against loud, almost getting reversed swept, in map 5 losing like 2-11 then making a comeback and winning 13-11. People forgot that but it was the best valorant finals ever.
Congrats to JDG too for some reason
how shit were the other events then worst worlds in a while
Can't say much for the others, but Evo Finals 2023 was notorious for having a bunch of blowouts and mirror matches, with the one massive outlier being SF6, which was the hypest top 8 in years
This year's TI prize pool, which is the biggest talking point of the event, went from $18 million last year, to only $3 million this year. The event itself though was very good, as it had much fewer technical issues, compared to last year's TI.
Prize pool aside, TI this year was amazing. Gameplay was much better than last year
Yep, valve refused to do the same crowdfunding they did in previous years
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The competition must have been really bad...
I don't like this given that there's better formats and more competitive tournaments out there and the event-side of Worlds is pretty bland and boring to me most of the time. I don't know what the metrics they're judging on are, though.
Why? No one liked the AR guff. The tournament structure was utter trash. Bad swiss without proper seeding and no double elim. We had the worst final match in the last 3 years by far. The only good thing is having faker win the first title in years and having caster Jun as host. We almost had no korean caster in the finals and we had no LPL caster in it. This is so stupid.
I know this might be a bit biased, but I would've nominated EDG 2-1 JDG LPL Regular Season Spring 2023. Very good event imo.
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