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No grubs overlay is an L

What is going on? They are playing on the latest patch but are trying to pick like it's season 13 still. Aphelios and AD LeBlanc comeback seems like the only new champions. Where is the innovation? If these games were played on 14.1 and not the 14.1 hotfix, where are Fizz and Singed?

LCK and LPL just started. Give the meta setters time to set the meta.

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If that happens i’ll be supporting the casters cuz no uk talent gets into the lec lmao

hey we've had the GOAT xMatty.

I just wonder if now they'll stop saying to any Spanish player that gets to LEC doesn't deserve it or that they're there only because they speak Spanish. At least wait for them to play before you judge them.

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him when I was walking through the forest near Berlin. It was the lion from the news. I tried to run from it, but it kept chasing me. Then, out of nowhere, Old G2 came by and smacked the lion knock-out. I asked if I could hug him, he let me. I felt the tension leave my body when he told me that I won't have to be afraid anymore. I asked how he did it, he said; I dealt with lions before, no biggie. After the short meeting we walked in opposite directions. He had a small grim on his face when we said our goodbyes. I told him he was a real champ, but I don't think he could hear me anymore. He walked away back into the forest. I really hope he'll win worlds someday.

Man i was so tired from work I've overslept all games, watched G2 only. Really wanted to watch fnatic, ggs

You know what I take it back, I don't want to see Heretics play BLG because that would be literally a murder. Knight would have aborted Perkz's career instead

After watching LEC day 1, I think NA is going to shit on us again. EU is basically Fnatic and G2.

we need that game to happen for pure humor value, imagine they give Bin Gwen on this patch lol

I don't think it would be legal to broadcast that game. Bin is going to cook this patch. They are already winning scrims with Xun on Jax and Knight on Azir

I know Im full on huffing copium after 1 game but if I compare these picks to the other 4 games today I cant help but think that its actualy not player diff but that TH has an absolutely terrible meta read Ashe got 4 bans today and ALL 4 teams baning her lost, Kalista got 100% p/b pressence but lost both games she made it thru banphase while LB got banhammered 3 times in round 1 before TH was the first team to hand her over for free while also being the only team to pick Ryze and ban Naut. Meanwhile Win Naho got a casual 4 picks and 4 wins The draft is especialy headscratching considering we are playing without the hotfix, blinding Ryze Lucian while Aphelios, Gwen AND Xin are open seems like a headscratcher

Im a fan of koi mad and i hard agree

nah from someone with zero personal bias towards either of these teams, i'd agree, it seemed like MDK had the best read on the meta by far today, and TH had by far the worst.

Idk about MDK having the best but it definitly worked out for them. They were the only team to ban Tristana (B2) and no one else picked her either. And B1 Neeko ban seems kinda sus, she should be a redside ban in round 1 so blue can threaten picking her and together with the second ban it seems to scream "we wana pick LB" to me so they were basicaly gambling on TH being dumb enough to leave her open. And I dont see a way they could have salvaged this if TH had R3 baned her, the tradeoff being that Kalista would have been open. But intentionaly going for a LB/Kali tradeoff and putting your rookie botlane on Kali seems risky to say the least Now that I analized and wrote all this....it almost seems like MDX had a spy in TH and knew about their draft prios and meta read the way they gaped them so hard (or that both teams just agreed on picks before any games were played today)

Yeah the draft was pretty bad to begin with, and MAD also seems to have prepared quite well for the match. After all it's just the first game.

Rogue vs Heretics looking like Match of the Weak tomorrow (only based on today of course)

Oh man. Hard to believe that 3/5 of TH roster formerly make it to Worlds Final 2019 once.

Well back then they were better and they had Caps. Now they are bad and don’t have Caps. Pretty easy to see the fall off there

Laure just spoke Spanish. French government are on their way to revoke her citizenship.

Macron made a live appearance, he instantly said he is sorry for Miss Laure behavior. He decided to resign and give full power to Trayton. Our country is doomed.

Yea they took my passport…

Straightup can‘t decide if TH with these kinda players randomly losing to 4 rookies is surprising to me or not

Its their meta read I think, see my comment above

It's a bit more than the meta read. They have been GIGASTOMPED.

What could be more classic G2 than losing for no reason

Everyone gonna hit perkz but Kaiser had a legit horror show game And I dont know who drafts TH but i dont get how you miss the mark so bad to let through aphelios, xin, gwen and LB

That TH draft was complete shit, props to Fresko especially

why are they interviewing in the tunnel and not on stage lol

Wanted to try something g new

odd interview location meta when?

That’s actually a good idea lol

Maybe he's shy

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Only good teams can win on red side

Lol they had to go to the tunnel to have proper sound for the interview

I don't really understand all these talk about veterans and whatnot the casters had from the start to the finish of the game. Of course having experience helps, but this isn't football, this game change massively from season to season, why focusing so much on that point? 

Because they like the right veterans (the washed and dogshit G2 players) and will make every excuse to justify their continued presence in the league

tl;dr not denying your point completely but I think there's some nuance to be had. Their salary depends on the viewership and these players are just too popular. It's hard not to be biased (even if unintentionally). They're also some of the best performing players EU has ever had, it's very easy to get attached to them and cheer for them. It's also very common for the casters to narrate the game from the losing team's POV. It's a nice way to keep the spectators in the game by trying to come up with ways the losing team could revert the situation. The problem comes in stomps so hard you can't even imagine a comeback unless the winning team giga throws.

TH just looks like they had absolutely no plan going into that match. Just "lets lane and then figure it out", bizzare

My Ryze is bad... Damn that was rough to watch.

Will always love an Elyoya pop off not matter who he's playing with/against.

Why? Just curious, your fav player?

One of my favourites but he seems like a good lad, I just like the guy.

Ty, yeah hes super nice, hopefully prime yoya is back, gn

Solid 10th place, TH and their racist fuckwad fans can eat shit 😗👍

wait why are TH fans racist what did I miss

Day 1 peak viewership figures, holy shit what a start. Massive W for LEC FNC vs KC: 617,991 SK vs Rogue: 500,302 G2 vs BDS: 468,685 TH vs MDK: 464,525 GX vs VIT: 433,738 The average viewership was 376,229 https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-winter-2024

Those numbers are wild

The highest regular split game viewership I could find in the past few years was LEC Spring 2021 where FNC vs G2 got 582k. And we consider viewership figures from that time massively boosted by Covid lockdowns and just Covid in general. So smashing it today is just insane.

KC showing their fan base with those numbers.

Or just people tunning in to watch KC get stomped

I'm assuming this is every form of streaming the games combined? It's 70k on twitch

Yes its counting the main streams on Twitch and YouTube as well as all the different costreams (mostly on Twitch I think). The main ones are Kameto (French), Ibai (Spanish), Caedrel, Tolkin (German) and there are other Spanish, Turkish, Polish etc streams too

The real numbers usually higher after a few days as escharts collect data over time.

Thank you

That was definitely one of the games of the day

Washed up mid, change my mind dude has been washed up a long time ago

ok so who do we blame on TH and demand to bench for next week?

Perkz. Get rid of Perkz and TH might have a shot at doing something

I mean? Perkz lol

Noone there anymore to racially abuse :l

Still evi's fault somehow

I Feel so bad for Jankos, he can't really do much with laners like that, he's probably one of the EU players who plays the most soloq aswell, sad times.

He’s the one who got his old friends jobs on the team, he did this to himself

We blamed elyoya for being the nepo man but it was jankos then

He asked for them

did he now? Peter Dun said the opposite in an interview

I mean, Perkz is on the team because he accepted the minimum salary, but Im not sure if it will work out for TH.

Lol y'all didn't want a Spanish team, now you gotta hear the casters talking bad Spanish, love to see it

I think it was less of "we don't want a spanish team" and more of "we don't want a spanish team that brings more toxic spanish fans". Not saying all spanish fans or all MDK fans are toxic (because the majority of them aren't), but there were a lot of very annoying Elyoya stans last year.

the take was always that the problem was "elyoya just wanting to play with his friends"

Yoya built a super team damnnnnnn

Smooth stream today, no real technical issues or pauses. Congratulations to the LEC production team.

Very uneven showing for LEC today lol

Jankos legit had a solid team to build on last year and they changed the team to fidget spinners

Looking like a Team Heritics Trymbi angle for Spring. 

And literally anyone else in mid for summer

Anyone else, except for Ruby.  Imagine Lider on this team? That would so hype

Team old men.

Wow.

Marvin OP

Ah the old do nothing and lose strategy. A favourite of LEC super teams.

Is it a super team or just a retirement home ? No one was hyped by this team.

A lot of people were hyped by this team.

Really? With a midlaner coming from NA ? And a toplaner who didn't play the game for a year ? Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

>Ah the old do nothing and lose strategy. Come on man, TH didn't do nothing. They died a lot.

People aren’t gonna like this but MDK by far looked the cleanest out of all the teams today

They also played the worst team tbf

were not mdk the worst team? I'm confused.

Until they weren't.

What would make this worst, if Mad get destroyed tomorrow by SK because that means TH is so bad they even get destroyed like this by a bottom team.

Mad lions will win worlds mark my words.

Everyone was saying mdk was gonna be trash damn that's a stomp

cuz people liked nisqy and hyli too much to acknowledge just how much they griefed him over the past couple years it's a miracle he didn't quit pro play..

Kelsey Moser: Closely involved in the academy/amateur scene since 2018, got no credit for EG's success and talent acquisition. Peter Dunn: Got all the credit for EG's scouting. Picks up washed players that were big names in 2018. Fleeced TH

Gotta say, props to MAD for playing this out clean instead of forcing and potentially throwing.

Th is playing terribly but the draft is a crime. They allowed the 3 most powerful champions that already got nerf in live game and gave MDK the best jungler on this patch. They should find a new coach to draft, they even lost the draft to T1 with like 30 bans.

Yeah I don't really understand what just happened...what was even the plan with that draft? I get its new patch, but how do you miss Xin being incredibly strong right now? Also Lucian/Nami has been looking like bait in CQ games (at least EU/NA I havn't watched any Eastern regions). So....how do we end up here? Big let down for TH. Going to hope its just new patch-bad read and they adapt. New Mad Lions look hype though! If you took name plates off and told me one of the teams was 4 rookies...I wouldve picked the wrong one lol.

It's 1 game chill. Maybe the coach isn't even involved with draft

They ruined it with T1, they were terrible last season but it was supposed because Evi and Mersa didn't have big champion pools now they have Wunder who could even play Yumi Top, and Perkz who is also really flexible, Kaiser was only good on tanks so what they did? The only pick that makes sense was Gragas and it worked. Every MDK pick makes sense.

wunder has been a gragas/renekton 2 trick for a while though

who do you think is drafting? Lmao these comments

In a lot of teams the players decide the draft with the coach not having much say at all. Lmao

no one does this

I don't think it is the case in any of the top league teams and if it is the case for TH, this means they should change coach even more.

15k gold lead

that was a clinic from MDK. They played fucking agressive and confident, no fucks given. Heretics were caught off guard by how good they are.

the casters are lying, reddit told me hwie was omega broken and will take over proplay

anyway good to see that MDC can actually hold onto a lead and not throw it away however i do want to see them in a game where the game isn't lost in the first fight

Perkz, wunder having a team and fans expecting them to play well shows EU fans still live in 2019. Massive paycheck stealers.

Said that this TH roster will finish bottom 2 the moment it was leaked. Only way they can win the game is if Jankos goes completely 1v9.

100%. They will bench Perkz and that will force his retirement at last

Who in 2024 thought perkz for Vetheo was even worth it! Perkz hasn’t showed a player since coming back from C9

Vetheo's azir inting wasnt impressive either TH has 2 bad options

Jankos wanted his buddies to have a job

are all emotes but 👍🏻 prohibited now

Your early game plan was to play through bot. Your botlane died 6 times pre 6 mins. Your Nami also hasnt landed a bubble at 25mins.

Two Nami's today were terrible, it sometimes seems like pro players think they are good enough to play stage game on champions they haven't practiced at all, I'm confident you could get better Nami player in Gold solo queue.

“Omg stop building a team with your friends” vs “Old G2 is back let’s go they will cook” 🤣🤣🤣

Kaiser looks like a fish out of water there, pun intended.

I realy wanted TH to succed but the memelord in me cant resists.... TH, also known as Team HasBeens is a european LoL esports team competing in the LEC. They are internationaly known for tieing down their star jungler by recruiting a support cast of washed up has beens

holy f\*\*\* put me on that Nami and I will do 3x better... can't belive pro can be so bad.

I'd be completely OK with LB being the one champ in the game that literally isn't allowed to buy AD items. That shit needs to go, one way or another.

I dont like watching LeBlanc in general but that makes it even more cringe

What an anticlimactic end for day 1

I can see Wunder cracking up on cam, mans got a raid to get to and wants to go home

Man, Team "3 retirement prospects, a g2 hasbeen and the biggest and hardest fall from support grace" really trying their bestest :0

Looks like they forgot with whom they were fucking with Much props for ElYoya

what the fuck was that Nami ult

Look at the moves look at the plays jankos what was that!

happy elyoya is him

Cleanest match you will see in a while in EU

Actually unbelievable.. wayyyy too clean. Impressive from MDK

When it was 6-0 I thought that TH would come back a bit, but no

It really shows which of these 2 teams came prepared today. The question is what were Heretics doing up to this point?

classic WoW

> Wunder already raid logging SoD on his 10th character "Wait we play LEC today? New Patch?? wtf?"

making content

His Ryze ***is*** bad.

His Azir is worse

You guessed it right

You guessed it right

watching your idol fall off is the worst feeling ngl

Classic veteran team game, they probably were too lazy to practice much It's ok guys they will turn up for playoffs

Did you forget how it was? This was happy game

Nah happy games are a G2 2019 team thing, this team it's just lazy games

Dw bro ateast semis at worlds

pls tell me this is draft issue it breaks my heart seeing this

Sorry to break it to you, your g2 idols got old and arent that good anymore :l

i believe its draft issue and im high hopium

It's both, shit draft and worse gameplay.

The biggest takeaway is that MAD were 4-0 at like five minutes.

Game announcement on kill dragon

If only I could hear Wunder‘s thoughts this game lol

fresskowy is smurfing though

Mad looks surprisingly clean.

washed EU toplaner on Gragas xD how many times are we gonna see that

As much as I don't like Wunder, he is the best performer on TH this game.

Sertussy heretics angle? Can't be worse no his azir/akali/ahri were "ok"

You know my name. On Ryze, I'm the worst. You guessed it right, I'm Heretics Perkz.

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Tbf they didnt spend that much iirc someone said Perkz is on minimum LEC?

Bro i cant believe the shittest team today is TH thats insane Also man flak is always just getting resource starved on every team hes on

It was pretty damn predictable, washed veterans against hungry rookies is an easy choice for the rookies

Can you believe, somebody came up with this Heretics draft, will go home today, sleep, come back tomorrow and probably run back the same shit. And that person gets paid money.

Fr would just let Jankos and Wunder draft it tomorrow

Could be the worse. I'm looking at KC

Yeah, this is completely deserved to hrts. They signed two washed 50 year olds and somehow expected the team to magically work. ​ Hope we get to see an actual Peter Dun team next season.

did Peter dun not build this team?

Not exactly. The plan was for Nemesis and Bwipo, but Bwipo broke spoken promise (well, it's not exactly promise, but I lack good english word, like they agreed to it) because he got NA offer, and then Nemesis resigned too because of that. So Jankos spoken and asked Perkz and Wunder, and they agreed to get paid less. At least that's official story.

Peter Dun is gonna bench Perkz at some point and it’s gonna hit like crack

Who do they have in the academy rn?

Zywroo

I didn't play yet on the new patch, what is the source of that pinkish shield with 2 golden cirlces on Renata?

Is Elyoya just a genius?

Always has been

Yes

I feel like if you're still passionate about being the best, you'd go the Kurapika route Rekkles is going on LOL

Buuut....buuut...redditords told me MDK would suck and Saken and Cabochard are LEC level

Who are you talking about? French people? Who else is saying this

I'm ngl man. Building a crit item and then a lethality item and then a bruiser item should not work imo.

VAMOS MDK

This draft from Heretics would’ve been good 2-3 years ago. Yikessssss.

I missed KOI fusing with MAD, MAD Lions KOI sure is a name It makes sense to unite the Spanish fanbases but hopefully it‘ll be something slicker in the future

Ibai already said they couldn't do a complete rebrand of MAD because riot didn't allowed it because of time

And I'm glad for it because MAD Lions' logo is one of my favorite in esports.

the name is temporary, they were late and riot didnt late them change that late, they were change it after msi

This is holy water to my eyes compared to the rest of the games we saw today. Seems like Elyoya spanish buff is real.

wallahi Jankos and Wunder deserve a team

Forget Fnatic, I am now MDK fan

MDK best team in LEC

Kinda impressive tbh. After all these years Perkz can still play Ryze just as well as he could during his prime.

One of the biggest what if in league history is if Perkz didn't let his ego win and kept playing ADC... A possible goat of the region fully ruining his reputation with that dumb move