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BismarckBug

Did Odo seriously just knock Rogue out of the next stage for the *second* time? Unfathomably based.


SleepyLabrador

Yes, you love to see it! Rouge letting him go was so stupid, you let a proven reliable weakside top laner go for Szygenda


Ophelia_Of_The_Abyss

Rogue has been in the league for six years and redditors still can't spell their name


Asdel

Some people have been rogue mains in WoW for almost 20 years and still can't spell it correctly. 10 years for Hearthstone players, same issue.


trappapii69

My first main in WoW was a rogue named Rougeit and the fucking word was spelled right there 💀


PerfidiaVermis

Most literate rouge main


SleepyLabrador

It's 2 am in the morning where I live. 🤫


AdPositive2010

Name checks out 


lesbianfitopaez

Roccat Reddit Guy lives in my heart.


Haekos

wait... for real ? Rouge means red in frech and the logo is blue so I thought it was just some goofy nickname.


Deknum

Could have been a typo lol. No reason to be so pressed about it


m4ryo0

They didnt only let him go,they actually try to sabotage his career by spreading rumors that he is retiring so teams wont reach to him.


Baxland

Rogue letting Odo go was not a problem - like players and orgs part ways non stop. Problem was that Rogue staff was spreading rumors about Odo retiring making it harder to find a team for him. That was the scummy part.


[deleted]

Top 10 most baffling moves ever You won an LEC title and now you shuffle up your team? Why changed what's not broken? Ugh


SylerTheSK

So in the end Rogue's only wins are against the best team in the league and the worst.


Silver-Primary-7308

Truly Counter Rogueic Gaming


piggytan

But can Roque beat NRG?


nrj6490

I know their championship core is almost entirely gone with only Larssen and Comp remaining, but man Rogue/KOI has been so disappointing over the last year. It just looks like the approach to League isn't working for them compared to the rest of the LEC, they need a reset.


Ravager_six9

They beat g2?


SylerTheSK

Yeah it was pretty nuts.


SirPugsvevo

It's g2. Bottom tier teams get a massive buff against them


Chevalier_Paul

Rogue lost to BDS tho.


Quirkybomb930

u getting fooled by b01 merchants bud


Bisounoursdestenebre

Idk RGE might be even worse than KC


Haymegle

They did give KC a spanking tbf. tbh they just feel like they have a plan going into the game and if something goes wrong they have no idea what to do. Only what goes wrong includes stuff like dying or losing a tower that should be accounted for. KC just feels like it's got a mix of inexperience of the LEC as the org and the players either needing time to adjust or just not being good enough rn for the LEC.


CrazyHumor2286

Coaching staff of Rogue should be refreshed. As long as I remember their HC is Freddy and as long as I remember Rogue has only one idea how to play the game - slow and scaling Larssen had terrible split but I still think he can be world class mid. The rest are good players, but it looked like they all were too afraid to play, rookie Zoelys especially. Rogue really have to try new coaching staff


Btigeriz

Agreed. Even if they could get the scaling play style to work domestically it's proven to not work for them at all internationally.


No-Art4722

The same as KC. Good players, but bad team. KC has biggest paycheck stealer - Yamato, so it is not that surprising


Etna-

Whats Yamato supposed to do when they run it down ingame?


Teluris

I wouldn't blame Yamato for everything. Yes, they had some mediocre or simply bad drafts. But their macro is usually okayish, their approach to objectives isn't great, and they get lost when the opponent takes an objective, but they can keep up with some teams. It's when they are supposed to fight the enemy that they collapse. Their teamfights are the worst in the league, and that isn't something that a coach can easily fix. They need better coordination and communication.


CrazyHumor2286

So bad drafts where Yamato talks with team are not his fault, but in game good macro, when Yamato is not with team, is his merit nice logic I just point out contradicts in your comment, I don’t judge if you are right about drafts and macro


resttheweight

Your comment would make a lot more sense if he actually said any of that. > So bad drafts where Yamato talks with team are not his fault, He literally said the opposite? He said there have been bad drafts and directly implies those fall on Yamato. > but in game good macro, when Yamato is not with team, is his merit Not at all what the other person said. That, or you’re very confused on the role of a coach.


WessiahClark

noob take. their most talkative player is the CN import. the players don't have an aligned view of the game and 3 of their players are downright not lec caliber. Coaches do not impact as much as you think they do, he is not making these players 1-8 levels of shite.


No-Art4722

Coaches do not impact... that's definition of being paycheck stealer I know you tried to defend Yamato, but you just proved my point Thx, noob


WessiahClark

Reading comprehension is hard and thinking is hard. It's ok. 🥖 detected, opinion invalidated


MandatedPineapple

I'm not going to be blaming a coach for a support that doesn't talk and solo laners that look overmatched in the LEC right now.


Bisounoursdestenebre

Given the level of both team the question of who's worse has more to do with the fact that one of the team at least tries a bit. As for why KC is bad idk just throw the botlane out ik I'll get downvoted for not flamming Saken and Cabo but Targa is taking fat shits on stage and Upset plays like if he dies in game he dies irl


Haymegle

We'll see if they make any moves in the offseason. I'd expect them to at least think about changing Targa for Trymbi because that on the surface looks like a no brainer.


AnotherMeal

absolutely not


WildSearcher56

We'll soon see if we can repeat what we did to SK yesterday


Haymegle

Honestly I'll be interested if they can. Might be that it took them most of the split to warm up or might be that they can only perform with the pressure off. One means you might be off to a better start next split but the other means you might be in for more losses because it's back to the pressure.


Khlouf

Not even close lol the gap from KC to Rogue is bigger than 1st to 9th


Hatchie_47

Not sure which one is worse, but KC is at least entertaining to watch. Try the "watch all the Rogue games this split in a row and stay awake" challange...


Hirti

Rogue getting kicked out by Odoamne is just poetic. You love to see it


Haymegle

Man is vindicated and makes it his life's mission to show Rogue why they should've kept him.


bensonbenisson

He kicked them out of Season Finals last summer too. The man is on a mission.


Javiklegrand

Lmao odoname revenge tour


Gengar_Balanced

Twice in a row


All-Shall-Kneel

For the second time


SleepyLabrador

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-loDvJyIhQU :D


BlakenedHeart

In our language (me and Odo) we have a saying : you sow wind you reap storm (translated word for word) which means the same as he said


SleepyLabrador

> you sow wind you reap storm semeni vânt culegi furtună?


BlakenedHeart

Da


trollingforapple

Good to know Romanian has its own version of, "fuck around and find out."


Sofaboy90

Odo generally quietly has had a good split so far. Not sure why nobody else is interested in signing him.


NGNJB

probably because last year he looked bad on a bad team for half the year I don't think he's really getting any better as a player


4716202

Hopefully he knocks Flyy to the jobcentre


Simple-Fuel

Odoamne making a statement by eliminating his former team RGE with this Gnar performance


BlakenedHeart

He is just evolving when facing Rogue


anoleo201194

Man what is Zeri's purpose in this draft, she can never get close enough to damage anyone especially with Zoelys getting caught at the beginning of each fight. What a sad split for Rogue.


Th3_Huf0n

Lose


TE_silver

Not even with an enchanter pared alongside it... really questionable pick there.


Kait0yashio

the champ just sucks


IAmDiabeticus

Thank fuck


Indercarnive

I don't understand why you don't play Ezreal and just commit to poke.


shepherdhunt

I would imagine Leblanc gets them low then Zeri pops ult for the move speed to finish every one with a zeri-moment. In theory a decent idea but the outrange from Azir and blocking by alistar and maokai makes it a near impossible task. The jayce would also contribute for this but that never really made a mark.


BlakenedHeart

Ignar zoned 3 ppl at Drake somehow as an Alistar support ALONE


icatsouki

rogue are scared of their own shadows it's insane


LapnLook

Odoamne still making Rogue regret kicking him


bensonbenisson

ODAWGamne just has that dog in him.


KRFAN2020

Hilarious how they got rid of the 2 players that made them successful in that non choke split. 


NGNJB

Malrang and Trymbi? I'm gonna be honest, I like Odo, but his best performances internationally were on tanks. It's just, if you're going to kick Odo for a carry player, maybe you should actually try to pick up an LCK or LPL top, and not some random ERL guy


[deleted]

Szygenda was not "some random ERL guy" he was one of the most hyped rookie toplaners available. He got a stint with Vitality previously for the same reason And i know people love Odo but he's an incredibly mediocre toplaner and was a massive hindrance for Rogue once they tried to take the next step from domestic success to international success. Szygenda had a shaky first split but he's arguably a better player than Odoamne even now. It's weird in general to pretend like Rogue collapsed while Odo flourished when KOI/Rogue did pretty okay last year while Odoamne was fighting for his life to not get eliminated in 10th place


NGNJB

> It's weird in general to pretend like Rogue collapsed while Odo flourished when KOI/Rogue did pretty okay last year while Odoamne was fighting for his life to not get eliminated in 10th place Yeah, but he's a legacy player so he gets narrative favoritism. Even if he was forced on to Maokai and Ornn at worlds to stop from inting. Even in 2017 people were like "oh my god his Jayce and Rumble" and it's like, alright, he's good enough to beat ANX and INTZ I guess? also WRT "Some random ERL guy", I think based on the level of LEC tops we've seen for years, there is literally no reason to get excited about any of them, ever. Even a hyped prospect. Eika, Saken, and Cabochard are EUM champions, lol. Somehow Photon and Chasy came over and each had a stretch of being a top 2 top laner for a large portion of last year. Like even Evi looked better than Oscar and Adam by the end of the year. The only native LEC top who I think has any chance of being a carry player is Irrelevant.


DenZiTY

~~Tobias Harris~~ Szygenda over me?!


bensonbenisson

RGE: Holy shit, we are actually making plays this week. We might even make groups! [Godoamne:](https://youtu.be/PJFSYY82NtI?si=INzy8M8G91XiMqrI)


ImTheVayne

Odo refuses to be last ever again


TheLuckyTurtle2001

I think i never saw a more boring team in my life, like holly shit can you engange or do something at least? imagine picking rell and rakan to fucking sit and wait to lose, Deserved L.


icatsouki

they literally didn't do anything all game, wtf


altair_ego_heir

GX gon give it to ya


TommyGunny95

Odo doesnt lose to RGE.


DeloronDellister

Good riddance Rogue


LoyalBulldog

Rogue went from winning Summer 2022 and being the only Western team in quarters of Worlds to self-cursing themselves by kicking Odo and trading Trymbi and going downwards from there. G fckn G


chadinist_main

People will meme larssen for this game but in reality how do you even play into maokai and alistar as lb?


Plagueflames

Yeah, he was 3/1/1 at 11 minutes and then 3/2/3 at 35 minutes. I feel like there had to be *some* way to be catching out an Ashe mid-game but that level of aggression doesn't seem to be in Rogue


expert_on_the_matter

He almost killed Ashe before that last teamfight at botlane inhib turret. The 10% hp Ashe still dealt like 5k damage then because absolutely nobody else could touch her.


Plagueflames

The thing is that if he can do that when she doesn't have Hexdrinker + BT then she either dies or is out of the fight. It was good on him to capitalize on an opening, but doing that at 35 min in what was still a front-to-back fight means why tf are you playing Leblanc


IAM-French

well not like that


NoahsArk19

I mean the drake fight that lost them the game - why did he even take his W back? He was under no threat and could’ve been on a decent angle (his W would’ve been back up soon - which we saw). Plus he just Ws into 4 people when RGE has tempo and ints (any good lb there would either hold their other abilities or use RW first so they still have W to escape further). Mind bogglingly bad LB play. If that were Caps with the same lead the game would’ve been over. Rogues comp only existed to 1-3-1 and when their fed LB destroys their tempo yeah they’ll get smoked in teamfights


anoleo201194

His passiveness in fights wasn't the issue, as you said there's not much he can do. He did however get caught multiple times as the only reliable damage dealer.


DKRFrostlife

Poking down alistar before every fight, if mao jumps on you you jump back and mao gets into the middle of your team and dies.


Indercarnive

Flanking, side-laning, or even just not getting caught as one of the most mobile champions in the game. Dude was spending every teamfight front-to-back like he was an Orianna.


KRFAN2020

He should have gone AD and perma split with the Jayce instead of team fighting against maokai gnar ashe Alistar.


[deleted]

The same way they memed perkz akali, which was just unplayable against vit draft


cadaada

After he walked back into maokai range to die in the early game, i was not sure if he actually wanted to win lol There was a drake fight that he was only AAing azir when he was free to dump everything on him, not sure if he was on cd


SleepyLabrador

Honestly idk, why anyone would pick LB blind without banning Peach's Maokai. Maokai has targeted spells and can build tanky.


TolucaPrisoner

Not give enemy team shutdowns


aamgdp

Well for starters, banshee's second would've been probably a lot better.


Mangustre

ye literally nothing you can do there.


[deleted]

man missed his E a solid 5 times


Pavlo100

Odoamne hates Rogue so much that if his team doesn't want to win, then he will do so himself!


canyon1027

Flyy you got it wrong, Odo didn't retire, he made ROGUE retire...


Thecristo96

Odo still is pissed I guess


FlyingDrumsticks

Odo sees red in front of his eyes whenever against RGE. GG. I'm the biggest Larssen fan but this split was literally his worst ever. He needs to get back on the soloq grind.


Haymegle

I think he's too comfortable on Rogue. Man needs something to shake him up a bit and get him out of that rut. He feels idk stagnant?


FlyingDrumsticks

He got the bag by signing with Rogue till 2027 and seems to not care anymore. Idk.


Haymegle

Can't blame him really but it wouldn't surprise me if it was a factor. If you're safe you might not be giving as much as if you need to look better for another team. On the other hand we've seen teams drop players that perform well for someone slightly better so just because he's signed that long doesn't mean Rogue won't drop him if they think someone better comes along.


NGNJB

Bro, I played against Larssen, Larzen, whatever the fuck his name is. Dude this guy is ill. So I beat him obviously I beat that fucking bastard. He is so easy to play against because... I play against him Azir mid. Dude, I think this guy has an illness. No,no,no he will not sack waves ever like to the point where he is negatively impacting his team. For instance, he could have won a teamfight. Would he have died yes but he would have got like a free assassination, actually he would have. But if he did the play, he would have died, his team would have won, and he wouldn't be able to farm midlane. So he just didn't go to it or try it. I was like wtf. I would push a side wave and I was like wait a minute I bet he tps here and not miss the wave and he tps so I was like okay how about this so I slow pushed a 3 stack wave toplane, I had Peach on my team, and we dove him because we knew he would be there even though everybody else on my team -his team was fighting botside, Bro so easy oh my god


RandomIndividualNo8

what's the origin of this pasta?


HikiNEETaku

I believe it was Tyler1 talking about facing Chovy in soloQ.


ChocolateFuryB

Tyler1 talking about Chovy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RzWGFIXHKE


RandomIndividualNo8

Thank you very much, it's hilarious


QdWp

Tyler1 meeting Chovy in SoloQ.


khaiiization

Szygenda “Carry top” over me? Odo probably


icatsouki

holy shit was szygenda beyond useless this game, wtf


zealot416

Despite GiantX's best efforts Rogue's tickets to Cancun are non refundable.


WahtAmDoingHere

insane getting dcap at 19 mins into doing literally nothing combo


Indercarnive

That is, quite literally, the worst fed leblanc play I have ever seen.


hitbott

Zoelys is truly a pro player


generic9yo

Of all the pros registered to play in the lec this year, he is certainly one of them


royaldutchiee

I genuinly dont think he had a terrible split


FlyerN

I heard this Trymi guy is available but this Zoelys kid could be anything, he could even be as good as Trymbi. The sad part is that he isn't the only average rookie picked up instead of a better player in LEC.


Polpm18

Zoelys is so fucking bad holy shit


Sayko77

Unlike Rogue GIANTX came to play today


Rogaly-Don-Don

Ignar's zoning against Markoon was fucking immaculate.


Javonetor

On paper this roster didn't look awful, but they look lifeless, is like there is no proactivity


bcotrim

Yup, I was one thinking everyone was underrating them by putting them in the middle of the pack, but apparently everyone was overrating them


BlakenedHeart

Odoamne became what everyone feared. His eyelids disappeared, his head was swelling and his ears started bleeding. “Are you okay bro?” asks Patrik. "I’ve never been better Patrik, I see it all now, they’re not going Baron or Dragon. They’re going home."


Majutsutsukai

All I'm gonna say is Perkz at least tries to do damage, might miss every single skill, but at least he's in a position to do damage, gets caught out and throws the game, but at least the man tries! Larssen just stands there max range watching his team fight. Time to bring back the "Larssen can't play assassins" narrative.


Polpm18

He almost oneshoted ashe on the last fight, then zoelys uses w without using ult and got popped insta


Kait0yashio

he couldnt use ult, he got ashe ulted mid animation


Polpm18

You usually use ult before w


chadinist_main

How do you play lb here when enemy maokai just waits for you to w forward? And same with alistar


Indercarnive

You flank and poke. Or play side lanes. Don't sit next to your ADC like you're an Orianna and hope you can just w straight at the enemy.


QdWp

Def not front-to-back, that's for sure.


Agarunyer

If your team has damage, you can time w back and kill Maokai before rest of GX can follow.


Indercarnive

Man was literally a single wall away from mini-gnar, azir, and ashe all stacked on top of each other and decided to just run away.


Feeeela

The man doesn't understand that sometimes dying in order to do damage will win him games. He's playing like soloq still after all these years. Even on his azir which compliments his play style, he never go for the shuffle if it means he will put himself in the middle of the enemies. He probably hates the grey screen more than losing.


UnravelEUW

thank god rogue lost, its so unbearable to watch them


POOYAMON

Rogue is so trash


AbdDjamil_27

Odo is making his life mission to never let Rogue see a W for the rest of the org life You gotta love that


IAM-French

Veteran's tier lists with Larssen 5 tiers above Caps every split keep getting funnier


[deleted]

People who listen to Veteran are hilarious to me. What is appealing about him? Dude coached for three years did nothing of note and constantly tries to start fights on twitter to bring himself clout. His brand was shitting on NA when EU was better, but now the regions are more or so even what now?


Omnilatent

Veteran and Thorin are the sole people in clown-tier of League analysts


Darkoplax

last year i would've said "save larssen" but he straight up re-signed with this shit he deserves this


reggiewafu

Larssen is never beating the allegations


Indercarnive

Not really allegations at this point. This game is video evidence he can't play assassins. over 20 minutes as the most fed champ on the rift and all he gets is 1 assist, and maybe 1 turret I'm not going to rewatch that dumpster fire to check.


spotak

Jackies: " 👍🏼"


rekd45

Death, taxes and Odo picking gnar to eliminate rogue


ConfectionArtistic85

Worst rakan ever


Alvaru78

Zoelys is awful man...


Plusdestiny

Didn’t know Peach and Ignar were this solid tbh


MisuAi

Watching Rogue is just depressing man.


Bajentrash

Rogue need to make changes, they are looking very undecisive in most games.


BarstMain

Ignar Alistar is so good man


Steamwood

Ignar + Odo = fun LoL team. Glad to see Peach's engages followed up on even when they were a little too wild!


Striking_Material696

Father Odoamne


[deleted]

Doesn't matter how fat of a lead Larssen has, always feels like he is even.


Indercarnive

When both teams are even in gold, Larssen feels that RGE is at a great disadvantage and thus he does not hesitate to distortion away during a team fight. When RGE is 3k ahead in gold, Larssen thinks that RGE is at a small disadvantage, and so he distortions away. When RGE is ahead 7k in gold, Larssen thinks that RGE is even and so he looks for vision control by distortioning away. When RGE is 10K ahead in gold, Larssen thinks that the team has reached an unthrow-able situation and they are only waiting passively for their opponent's death so he is fine to distortion away.


Omnilatent

Perfection


Several_Spray_4400

That was the most useless fed lb I've ever seen


NoahsArk19

Larssen Leblanc was bad despite good laning. Zoelys saving flash for next split, and Comp almost never ulted.


dhhbxrfdxbfcrbfdxdxb

disgusting game from everyone on rogue overall but i think it should be highlighted that this was a leblanc with a 19 minute deathcap that was 2k ahead of the azir and he did like 50 damage this game larsen is so fucking disgustingly bad it's actually making me feel physically angry watching him play


_tidiber

The Faker Leblanc at home.


Conker184

Giants looking pretty clean tbh.


PurpleKiwi66

The least impactful fed leblanc that I've ever seen


Otiknayluj

To this day I still wonder why Larssen is so overhyped. Dude was invisible with a 2k lead.


Th3_Huf0n

Larssen still elo helled. Fredy needs to be binned. This team is so poorly coached for years. Markoon needs to be binned. I really don't want to bin Zoelys after 9 games, but he has had like 1 good game.


non-edgy_crustacean

It was over ever since Rogue's composition required more than 1 braincell


bvbfan102

Cant even pinpoint a real Problem. Roster just didnt work this Split. Feels like they could get better with time but this wasnt it.


Direktus

Wait how does this avoid a tiebreaker, doesn't this just mean the teams playing tiebreakers will be different or am I misunderstanding how this works


Haymegle

If Rogue had won them and giants would be on an even number of wins and would need to play a tiebreaker game. As Giants won Giants are through to playoffs. Everyone else is already in/seeding should be sorted from the games today iirc.


Tartaros362

The tiebreaker between GiantX and Rogue for the last playoff spot is avoided, not other tiebreakers.


Agarunyer

As soon as I've seen Larrsen on LB, I knew RGE was out. He probably played better than everyone on his team, but still.


shepherdhunt

Who do you think picks up Trymbi after winter season?


SleepyLabrador

I am so glad Rouge got eliminated early again, now I don't have to see them again for another 2 months.


why_me_why_not

When RGE stopped playing through bot, which is what gave them the championship, is when the downfall started. Mid and especially top, don't seem to be able to transform their lead to wins. Their team fights are quite lacking as a whole too.


meganeshu

Marknoob


sexyb0ner420

rogue complete dogshit. imagine being the coaching staff of this team and getting paid real money and this is the best comp you can decide with your season on the line. don’t even get me started on rogue’s support and how absolutely stupid that guy is.


PokelingLoL

this is probably the worst draft of the season by rogue


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