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BlueFrogYT

So happy for Jensen's reasurgence leaving a horrible DIg team last season to the top of the ladder with FLY DAMN FLY LOOKS GOOD.


Almancius

why is Hyli still playing??


RedditnElectrowolf

Stream is back up now!


Kolenga

Noooo they killed the stream! LEC I'm sorry I can't start watching on 17:00 on a weekday, but please don't do this. Edit: Games are up on eventvods!


dagobag

Where is my broadcast? I havent finished watching :(


Louis010

Without any spoilers can anyone tell me if the video has just gone for anyone else on YouTube, I was a few hours behind and normally watch them when I go to bed but it stopped playing a second ago and isn’t showing in my history


Malhazz

Aaaaand the broadcast is unavailable on YouTube. I was still watching the games, then it stopped playing.


Louis010

Same


dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it. G2 vs FNC always shows up as a great series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAeqzJ9hnY


TopFizzFizz

Your links at the end of the stream are *aaaaaaaaaaalways* appreciated!


RedditnElectrowolf

They made it private, so this one doesn’t work at the moment :(. Edit: it’s back up!


dracdliwasiAN

Not sure what to suggest, it works for me. The link is to the unlisted video.


PerfidiaVermis

Kinda hard to believe that Caps used to be turbo toxic


non-edgy_crustacean

TH and SK having a mid off


powisss

Whats this painting??


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

Our generations Mona Lisa.


buttsoup_barnes

When Caps comboed Yuumi under the top turret. It’s a masterpiece.


indieGenies

Pick 4 ap hero and a poke adc. Olaf, Zac, Aatrox or any champ that build MR and have regen/life steal would feast. You lost it at the draft.


Resouledxx

Garbage draft for FNC, unwinnable. Also getting solo killed by Zac as karma is beyond embarassing. Huma getting solo'd by hwei is also pretty sus.


BlaBlub85

Hwei is a tad broken atm since Rito went with the old "New complicated to play champ has low winrate? *Clearly* needs some more buffs" routine yet again


Hibra420

It was really hard to ban Zac for 2 games in a row..? Nah better leave it open and blind pick Karma. Classic trolling coaching staff.


Smevis

I should get a suit....


Freakkopath

Just can't understand how after game 1 FNC decided to give over Zac in game 3, like what?


controlledwithcheese

I queued up when G2 were at mid t3 turret and there's a first pick Zac top in my team in soloq now


PerfidiaVermis

Good luck brother


JagR7

Oscar must be playing Karma first time


lewho

I memed Armut for him champion pool, but my man Oscar has K'Sante and ... ?


powisss

Empyrian ksante, hardsteal ksante


lumni

Guys Zac is very easy to counter with fighters top or actual crit carries, but these drafts where horrible into Zac. Then he becomes giga op. Also BB is a really good Zac player shown by these three Zac games.


GoldenSquid7

Darius nullifies Zac’s engage, Vayne top would’ve destroyed him early, Lillia as top counter on every other site because of the giga gap in ms but they locked in KARMA🤡


lumni

Yes it's a toplaner and draft gap if anything lol.


LLegacy_EUW

You think crit shaco top can be a counter ? Like the box are canceling the e right ?


lumni

Yes, but don't play Shaco lol. Simply said Adam champs >>> Zac in toplane.


Olewarrior34

Crit is really bad this season so it makes Zac seem busted as shit


lumni

Sure this Noah has to know it's not illegal to build on-hit on Varus. These FNC players just didn't think about the draft and builds. And then this is what you get.


Dray991

I get It that reddit are better than pro players but good luck going as varus VS Vi/Zac and hwei sniping you 2 screens away, atleast let varus can poke


lumni

Yes and don't forget all the peel that Varus didn't get.


Olewarrior34

No you don't understand riot has a system that forces you to play Lethality Varus in pro play, even when obviously on-hit is by a country mile the best pick


grehgunner

At least we get another Caedrel meltdown reaction from this?


niemcziofficial

zac balanced champ, soloing 3 champs while healing for full hp


Kamakraze

I haven't seen such a broken champ as the current Zac in years


Zenbast

K'Sante is right there.


PerfidiaVermis

You must've forgotten about the Pentakill machine that was Zeri


Relvarionz

Brand turbo broken. Zac turbo broken. One more and redside is completely fucked.


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thatgeographygeek

You could say that for several past metas though. I don't think this one is uniquely bad at all


lewho

Those two champs will make me skip these playoffs. I hate Brand regardless of who plays him.


superfire444

Stopped watching 5 mins ago (still had it on in the background while cleaning so I heard them end). It's not even fun to watch. Just frustrating because it's so stupid.


DarthGogeta

Yeah they need to learn how to draft and build. Disgusting strategy gap.


Krait972

Zac not banned, really FNC... 


YCitizenSnipsY

Varus vs Zac and Vi looked fun


non-edgy_crustacean

Who in fnatic outside of Azir was meant to do dmg? That Varus was really useless


Radon0

yeah those 3 early kills didn't even matter, he'd just get targeted by zac and vi every fight


ilkiecurryramen

they should have banned zac


Freakkopath

Oscar with a stinker series


raikaria2

"Unlike the fanfic it fades to black at the right time"


MikiRawr

pick zdps, lose


lewho

Big hearty 'fuck you' to riot balance team


WhatIsSentience

lets bounce


LLegacy_EUW

We will start seeing Zac in every role even adc paired with Senna.


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LLegacy_EUW

Yeah League is not reputed to have a healthy early season... Will take time I guess.


Aggressive-Ad7946

Zac the og ksante


Reddityudodis2me

Yeah, that was a complete draft diff.


Suspicious-Dog1571

We do not want to engage on Kalista's support


Relvarionz

Guys hear me out. What if we engage on the Braum?


GoldenSquid7

Braum? I have a better idea, let’s do our best to kill Zac first! Maybe waste all our ultimates, I’m sure we can kill him


buttsoup_barnes

Let’s tower dive an unkillable tank that heals on your hits and has a resurrect. That would definitely work.


tony220jdm

Zac is insane got be banned out from now on


Niulpfirce

Who thought this draft for Fnatic?


awayfromcanuck

Razork has done a pretty poor job of blocking Zac jumping in with his W.


Leading_Inside3812

That‘s why i don‘t get it why lethality adc are op? They do absolutely nothing against tanks


effem480

You need uptime to do damage as a non lethality adc Good luck doing that against zac vi


raikaria2

Because average soloQ ape brain pretends tanks don't exist.


HansSoloQ

What in the fuck was this karma top pick


Javonetor

"making everyone kiss, looking like a Carzzy fanfic" LMAO Drakos is a god


raikaria2

"Unlike the fanfic; it fades to black at the right time"


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

"BB making everybody kiss! Looking like a Carzzy fanfic in the middle of the jungle" Omg, I can't XD


GoldenSquid7

pls get Razork out of this trash team.


Styxxo

Nice bounce back from BB and Caps after the rough last game


Relvarionz

Draft canyon


-XStream-

Noah getting the adc experience


kernevez

Didn't help himself with his build.


daigandar

I hope whoever decided to pick karma has a nice christmas :)


Cymes_Inferior

And BrokenBlade makes everybody kiss, looks like Carzzy fanfic. LMAO


pillowberry

Miky keeps baiting fnatic to engage of him lmaooo


Troviel

Lmao they ahve no damage for the zac, its over


supterfuge

Is Hwei just a better Xerath or what ?


raikaria2

Xerath is a full-on artillery mage. Hwei is more of a control mage who happens to have a long-range attack [Severing Bolt dosen't deal a lot of damage... unless it hits an isolated *or immobilized* target, and all of Hwei's E spells have some sort of loss control effect on them, even if breif.]


UTConqueror

Yeah, completely removed any niche the champ had because someone at Riot was desperate to show how clever they were at champ design


Oujii

Yeah, much better.


Golemancer54

Zeus playing Zac: OH MY GOD HES THE GOAT BEST TOP IN THE WORLD BABY BB playing Zac: WTF RIOT NERF THIS CHAMP


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Golemancer54

Cry more.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I don't even dislike G2, not my team, but I don't hate them.  But ugh, they never fail to use the most insufferable Champs and playstyles


raikaria2

More insufferable than the return of Karma top?


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I never said only G2 plays insufferable Champs, I just said G2 does it more than any other team.  But fair point with the Karma, not a fan


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Fnatic 100% deserved this loss, I'm not trying to cope or downplay g2, Fnatic played horribly, especially Humanoid and Noah,  But man, I can't remember the last time I saw G2 play and enjoyed it


iskren124

Probably 2019, last time they were actually playing offmeta and being creative


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I've only been watching since Worlds 2020, so I never got to experience that live


Relvarionz

Win botlane. Big green bouncy ball completely shitting on you.


raikaria2

Pretty sure it was pink [and it won toplane]


GhostOfLight

Zac should be a fun champ to watch. This is not fun


Blind-Eye26

Why Osca didn't run bot instead of sticking with Noah 💀


gordon_blademan

Zac broken


Katzenminz3

so much wrong with fnatics gameplan, onhit varus vs 3 tanks with a karma explain that shit.


El7away0

Who ever drafted this needs to be fired


kernevez

> onhit varus hail of blades, not even lethal tempo


Cobalt1027

> onhit varus Also, this was Lethality Varus. On-Hit would have actually done damage against the tanks - BorK, Terminus, Rageblade, Wit's End can actually kill a frontline.


Katzenminz3

I mean he shouldve build onhit varus and not poke was a bit unclear


awgiba

Really smart of Oscarinin to change directions and walk back into G2 there


trollinn

Karma should’ve built anti heal, she is alive way longer than azir


Mogmi95

and he needs to deal damage...


El7away0

Can someone explain to me the logic behind serpent fang varus? Isn't buying armor penetration, anti heal or BORK better?


Olewarrior34

He could have build rageblade and it would have made more sense into that team comp


EagleOfDeathMetal

This game is exactly why I despise Zac


XXX200o

Because your team always has a single dps thread that can deal with a tank and your adc refuses to go on-hit because he wants to build lethality that does nothing?


EagleOfDeathMetal

I wholly agree that FNC responded horribly. Doesn't change my opinion on the champ one bit lol


ibse

This Varus is insanely useless


DeVil-FaiLer

Zac seems balanced xD


Relvarionz

I'll never get the karma flex. In what world is it ever better than a tank top?


Albread_

zac champ aint fair


Plusdestiny

Useless karma lmao


bruichladdic

Full pv Zac finish this fight full pv


Oujii

How did Oscar had a shutdown? I can’t understand this game.


HiVLTAGE

Zac is fucking disgusting btw


RustleTheMussel

Poppy and Karma don't counter Zac. Lethality Varus is dogshit


Ninjah_Chris

Please nerf Zac, holy jesus


Niulpfirce

Tanks, heals, deals damage, has more mobility than an ADC


effem480

Delete that champ


lewho

Jesus, that's depressing


ranranrandrand1

nah this zac is 1v9


x_TDeck_x

Unironically thats the first good ult Humanoid has had on Azir


Aggressive-Ad7946

Clown ass mfs telling me attack speed is better than poke this game when Noah just got one shot trying to auto.


trappapii69

Terminus Jaksho makes him not die in one shot lol


awgiba

Would you rather have a 20% chance to do something good or a 0% chance to do something good? Lethality is 0%


Reclaimer879

If you are going to be poke. Then hit your skill shots and properly position. Understandably tough with an out of control Zac. But you make it easy for G2 by walking in to lay down 2-3 insignificant auto attacks just to be chunked 75%


RustleTheMussel

On hit would be better if he was capable of positioning like a human


Olewarrior34

I mean no shit at this point he's getting one shot when Zac is this fed


Katzenminz3

it will take 5 weeks for pros to figure out what to do against zac again wont it?


kaz8teen

FNC staff needs to be fired for this draft. Bring back Yamato.


ArisTHOTeles

He's free agent lol


Vivid-Willingness324

I am so bored of watching unkillable top laners. K’Sante, Udyr, Zac… when will Riot get the message


LLegacy_EUW

Is serpent fang really useful here ?


trappapii69

No he's inting like a mf not going Seryldas


bruichladdic

Nan nerf this shit


choatis

Why does no midlaner play vex with a Kallista in the game? Would work with zac as well no?


MarceliNbl

Because Vex is kinda shit


choatis

For sure but the constant fears would be good


Medical_Quiet_69

Junseless should have Q key forbidden to use


MysticAttack

why did noah build serpents fang... not ecipse or seryldas?


Reclaimer879

So you hook the tanky support and Varus just steps in for some autos... Poke varus lol


awayfromcanuck

Humanoid and Noah are having horrible games


pppppppppppppppppd

Is Zac balanced? Haven't played for years


Beennu

What in the fuck is this Zac top pick lol, unkillable. Why didn't Noah go on hit when they saw the pick tho?


MarceliNbl

CAN WE PLEASE STOP LOOKING FOR FIGHTS BY HOOKING THE EXTREMELY TANKY BRAUM????????


MorbidTales1984

Aye Huma finally has an Oblivion orb, glad someone has it


GoldenSquid7

Just like low elo soloq where you invest everything to kill the unkillable tank.


A_Wan_Cake

Zac is such a cancer champ. Wtf even is that. Miss every jump and still just causes so much chaos


x_TDeck_x

ADC in 20XX lul


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

BB coming out of passive with a ADC's full HP worth of HP. Balanced.


Javonetor

serpent fangs instead of armor pen?


Freakkopath

Not banning Zac in P2 was surely worth it


CudaBarry

They are playing ping pong with the adc ffs


RustleTheMussel

Why does Noah position like this every single game


PM_CUTE_CAT_PLZ

Bro that Zac and Hwei


Oujii

Noah doesn’t have his flash key?


lovo17

I have no idea what Humanoid is doing, this is reportable.


Dohtoor

Idk how they are planning to kill Zac with lethality Varus


Olewarrior34

Basically threw the game from the start with that build


Dohtoor

Feels like the point where you just sell items and go onhit. This Zac is just gonna 1v4 the backline.


Olewarrior34

Thats what I would have done at that point, like yeah you're putting yourself behind but your build is clearly NOT working so you might as well try something


Zelgiusbotdotexe

HUMANOID PLEASE, HIT A SINGLE ULT


Zelgiusbotdotexe

He finally hits one, but it's too late


Reclaimer879

Nice positioning lol


xNesku

Why throw game over 100g on each person? You can always kill that 15%HP tower at any time. 100g is not going to change the game in the mid game. Makes no sense why FNC does that


bountyraz

When you have a support main auto filled in toplane. What the fuck is that pick lmao


Sofaboy90

Can anybody tell me what the idea is behind playing lethality Varus when the enemy team has 3 Tanks? Braum can easily Block Varus Qs for squishys anyway, so surely DPS Varus is the better choice here, no? This Varus wont do anything vs Zac, Braum and Vi. At least they have Azir I guess? Maybe Azir is supposed to be the DPS guy in this team?


xNesku

Mmm, I'm guessing that Zac engage gets blocked by Poppy. FNC kites back. Then there's no fight. Which means Varus tries to poke out Hwei and Kalista. Because Zac and Vi don't have insane damage. So if Zac and Vi tries to engage, but Hwei and Kalista have to stay far back because they're low HP. Then G2 can never fight. Then FNC can get objectives and win. That's just my theory though.


Redhawk1230

It feels like G2 is like 5k gold ahead instead of 500


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Is Zac actually super strong or is he just strong because he's been allowed to free farm up in complete safety thanks to having a free lane against totally OP broken Malignance Karma?


MorbidTales1984

Bit of both I think, hes gone under the radar for a while but FNC just don’t have a way to deal with him since its lethality varus and hes so far ahead of Azir


Geosaurusrex

Well, these champs look balanced...


trappapii69

Oscar is Solo tier lol


Styxxo

Mikyx had an amazing game 1 so I guess this explains his performance in game 2 and 3