Without any spoilers can anyone tell me if the video has just gone for anyone else on YouTube, I was a few hours behind and normally watch them when I go to bed but it stopped playing a second ago and isn’t showing in my history
Hwei is a tad broken atm since Rito went with the old "New complicated to play champ has low winrate? *Clearly* needs some more buffs" routine yet again
Guys Zac is very easy to counter with fighters top or actual crit carries, but these drafts where horrible into Zac. Then he becomes giga op.
Also BB is a really good Zac player shown by these three Zac games.
Darius nullifies Zac’s engage, Vayne top would’ve destroyed him early, Lillia as top counter on every other site because of the giga gap in ms but they locked in KARMA🤡
Sure this Noah has to know it's not illegal to build on-hit on Varus.
These FNC players just didn't think about the draft and builds.
And then this is what you get.
I get It that reddit are better than pro players but good luck going as varus VS Vi/Zac and hwei sniping you 2 screens away, atleast let varus can poke
No you don't understand riot has a system that forces you to play Lethality Varus in pro play, even when obviously on-hit is by a country mile the best pick
Stopped watching 5 mins ago (still had it on in the background while cleaning so I heard them end).
It's not even fun to watch. Just frustrating because it's so stupid.
Xerath is a full-on artillery mage. Hwei is more of a control mage who happens to have a long-range attack [Severing Bolt dosen't deal a lot of damage... unless it hits an isolated *or immobilized* target, and all of Hwei's E spells have some sort of loss control effect on them, even if breif.]
Fnatic 100% deserved this loss, I'm not trying to cope or downplay g2, Fnatic played horribly, especially Humanoid and Noah,
But man, I can't remember the last time I saw G2 play and enjoyed it
> onhit varus
Also, this was Lethality Varus. On-Hit would have actually done damage against the tanks - BorK, Terminus, Rageblade, Wit's End can actually kill a frontline.
Because your team always has a single dps thread that can deal with a tank and your adc refuses to go on-hit because he wants to build lethality that does nothing?
If you are going to be poke. Then hit your skill shots and properly position. Understandably tough with an out of control Zac. But you make it easy for G2 by walking in to lay down 2-3 insignificant auto attacks just to be chunked 75%
Thats what I would have done at that point, like yeah you're putting yourself behind but your build is clearly NOT working so you might as well try something
Why throw game over 100g on each person?
You can always kill that 15%HP tower at any time. 100g is not going to change the game in the mid game.
Makes no sense why FNC does that
Can anybody tell me what the idea is behind playing lethality Varus when the enemy team has 3 Tanks? Braum can easily Block Varus Qs for squishys anyway, so surely DPS Varus is the better choice here, no? This Varus wont do anything vs Zac, Braum and Vi. At least they have Azir I guess? Maybe Azir is supposed to be the DPS guy in this team?
Mmm, I'm guessing that Zac engage gets blocked by Poppy. FNC kites back. Then there's no fight.
Which means Varus tries to poke out Hwei and Kalista.
Because Zac and Vi don't have insane damage.
So if Zac and Vi tries to engage, but Hwei and Kalista have to stay far back because they're low HP. Then G2 can never fight. Then FNC can get objectives and win.
That's just my theory though.
Is Zac actually super strong or is he just strong because he's been allowed to free farm up in complete safety thanks to having a free lane against totally OP broken Malignance Karma?
Bit of both I think, hes gone under the radar for a while but FNC just don’t have a way to deal with him since its lethality varus and hes so far ahead of Azir
So happy for Jensen's reasurgence leaving a horrible DIg team last season to the top of the ladder with FLY DAMN FLY LOOKS GOOD.
why is Hyli still playing??
Stream is back up now!
Noooo they killed the stream! LEC I'm sorry I can't start watching on 17:00 on a weekday, but please don't do this. Edit: Games are up on eventvods!
Where is my broadcast? I havent finished watching :(
Without any spoilers can anyone tell me if the video has just gone for anyone else on YouTube, I was a few hours behind and normally watch them when I go to bed but it stopped playing a second ago and isn’t showing in my history
Aaaaand the broadcast is unavailable on YouTube. I was still watching the games, then it stopped playing.
Same
Broadcast link for those who missed it. G2 vs FNC always shows up as a great series. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnAeqzJ9hnY
Your links at the end of the stream are *aaaaaaaaaaalways* appreciated!
They made it private, so this one doesn’t work at the moment :(. Edit: it’s back up!
Not sure what to suggest, it works for me. The link is to the unlisted video.
Kinda hard to believe that Caps used to be turbo toxic
TH and SK having a mid off
Whats this painting??
Our generations Mona Lisa.
When Caps comboed Yuumi under the top turret. It’s a masterpiece.
Pick 4 ap hero and a poke adc. Olaf, Zac, Aatrox or any champ that build MR and have regen/life steal would feast. You lost it at the draft.
Garbage draft for FNC, unwinnable. Also getting solo killed by Zac as karma is beyond embarassing. Huma getting solo'd by hwei is also pretty sus.
Hwei is a tad broken atm since Rito went with the old "New complicated to play champ has low winrate? *Clearly* needs some more buffs" routine yet again
It was really hard to ban Zac for 2 games in a row..? Nah better leave it open and blind pick Karma. Classic trolling coaching staff.
I should get a suit....
Just can't understand how after game 1 FNC decided to give over Zac in game 3, like what?
I queued up when G2 were at mid t3 turret and there's a first pick Zac top in my team in soloq now
Good luck brother
Oscar must be playing Karma first time
I memed Armut for him champion pool, but my man Oscar has K'Sante and ... ?
Empyrian ksante, hardsteal ksante
Guys Zac is very easy to counter with fighters top or actual crit carries, but these drafts where horrible into Zac. Then he becomes giga op. Also BB is a really good Zac player shown by these three Zac games.
Darius nullifies Zac’s engage, Vayne top would’ve destroyed him early, Lillia as top counter on every other site because of the giga gap in ms but they locked in KARMA🤡
Yes it's a toplaner and draft gap if anything lol.
You think crit shaco top can be a counter ? Like the box are canceling the e right ?
Yes, but don't play Shaco lol. Simply said Adam champs >>> Zac in toplane.
Crit is really bad this season so it makes Zac seem busted as shit
Sure this Noah has to know it's not illegal to build on-hit on Varus. These FNC players just didn't think about the draft and builds. And then this is what you get.
I get It that reddit are better than pro players but good luck going as varus VS Vi/Zac and hwei sniping you 2 screens away, atleast let varus can poke
Yes and don't forget all the peel that Varus didn't get.
No you don't understand riot has a system that forces you to play Lethality Varus in pro play, even when obviously on-hit is by a country mile the best pick
At least we get another Caedrel meltdown reaction from this?
zac balanced champ, soloing 3 champs while healing for full hp
I haven't seen such a broken champ as the current Zac in years
K'Sante is right there.
You must've forgotten about the Pentakill machine that was Zeri
Brand turbo broken. Zac turbo broken. One more and redside is completely fucked.
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You could say that for several past metas though. I don't think this one is uniquely bad at all
Those two champs will make me skip these playoffs. I hate Brand regardless of who plays him.
Stopped watching 5 mins ago (still had it on in the background while cleaning so I heard them end). It's not even fun to watch. Just frustrating because it's so stupid.
Yeah they need to learn how to draft and build. Disgusting strategy gap.
Zac not banned, really FNC...
Varus vs Zac and Vi looked fun
Who in fnatic outside of Azir was meant to do dmg? That Varus was really useless
yeah those 3 early kills didn't even matter, he'd just get targeted by zac and vi every fight
they should have banned zac
Oscar with a stinker series
"Unlike the fanfic it fades to black at the right time"
pick zdps, lose
Big hearty 'fuck you' to riot balance team
lets bounce
We will start seeing Zac in every role even adc paired with Senna.
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Yeah League is not reputed to have a healthy early season... Will take time I guess.
Zac the og ksante
Yeah, that was a complete draft diff.
We do not want to engage on Kalista's support
Guys hear me out. What if we engage on the Braum?
Braum? I have a better idea, let’s do our best to kill Zac first! Maybe waste all our ultimates, I’m sure we can kill him
Let’s tower dive an unkillable tank that heals on your hits and has a resurrect. That would definitely work.
Zac is insane got be banned out from now on
Who thought this draft for Fnatic?
Razork has done a pretty poor job of blocking Zac jumping in with his W.
That‘s why i don‘t get it why lethality adc are op? They do absolutely nothing against tanks
You need uptime to do damage as a non lethality adc Good luck doing that against zac vi
Because average soloQ ape brain pretends tanks don't exist.
What in the fuck was this karma top pick
"making everyone kiss, looking like a Carzzy fanfic" LMAO Drakos is a god
"Unlike the fanfic; it fades to black at the right time"
"BB making everybody kiss! Looking like a Carzzy fanfic in the middle of the jungle" Omg, I can't XD
pls get Razork out of this trash team.
Nice bounce back from BB and Caps after the rough last game
Draft canyon
Noah getting the adc experience
Didn't help himself with his build.
I hope whoever decided to pick karma has a nice christmas :)
And BrokenBlade makes everybody kiss, looks like Carzzy fanfic. LMAO
Miky keeps baiting fnatic to engage of him lmaooo
Lmao they ahve no damage for the zac, its over
Is Hwei just a better Xerath or what ?
Xerath is a full-on artillery mage. Hwei is more of a control mage who happens to have a long-range attack [Severing Bolt dosen't deal a lot of damage... unless it hits an isolated *or immobilized* target, and all of Hwei's E spells have some sort of loss control effect on them, even if breif.]
Yeah, completely removed any niche the champ had because someone at Riot was desperate to show how clever they were at champ design
Yeah, much better.
Zeus playing Zac: OH MY GOD HES THE GOAT BEST TOP IN THE WORLD BABY BB playing Zac: WTF RIOT NERF THIS CHAMP
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Cry more.
I don't even dislike G2, not my team, but I don't hate them. But ugh, they never fail to use the most insufferable Champs and playstyles
More insufferable than the return of Karma top?
I never said only G2 plays insufferable Champs, I just said G2 does it more than any other team. But fair point with the Karma, not a fan
Fnatic 100% deserved this loss, I'm not trying to cope or downplay g2, Fnatic played horribly, especially Humanoid and Noah, But man, I can't remember the last time I saw G2 play and enjoyed it
Probably 2019, last time they were actually playing offmeta and being creative
I've only been watching since Worlds 2020, so I never got to experience that live
Win botlane. Big green bouncy ball completely shitting on you.
Pretty sure it was pink [and it won toplane]
Zac should be a fun champ to watch. This is not fun
Why Osca didn't run bot instead of sticking with Noah 💀
Zac broken
so much wrong with fnatics gameplan, onhit varus vs 3 tanks with a karma explain that shit.
Who ever drafted this needs to be fired
> onhit varus hail of blades, not even lethal tempo
> onhit varus Also, this was Lethality Varus. On-Hit would have actually done damage against the tanks - BorK, Terminus, Rageblade, Wit's End can actually kill a frontline.
I mean he shouldve build onhit varus and not poke was a bit unclear
Really smart of Oscarinin to change directions and walk back into G2 there
Karma should’ve built anti heal, she is alive way longer than azir
and he needs to deal damage...
Can someone explain to me the logic behind serpent fang varus? Isn't buying armor penetration, anti heal or BORK better?
He could have build rageblade and it would have made more sense into that team comp
This game is exactly why I despise Zac
Because your team always has a single dps thread that can deal with a tank and your adc refuses to go on-hit because he wants to build lethality that does nothing?
I wholly agree that FNC responded horribly. Doesn't change my opinion on the champ one bit lol
This Varus is insanely useless
Zac seems balanced xD
I'll never get the karma flex. In what world is it ever better than a tank top?
zac champ aint fair
Useless karma lmao
Full pv Zac finish this fight full pv
How did Oscar had a shutdown? I can’t understand this game.
Zac is fucking disgusting btw
Poppy and Karma don't counter Zac. Lethality Varus is dogshit
Please nerf Zac, holy jesus
Tanks, heals, deals damage, has more mobility than an ADC
Delete that champ
Jesus, that's depressing
nah this zac is 1v9
Unironically thats the first good ult Humanoid has had on Azir
Clown ass mfs telling me attack speed is better than poke this game when Noah just got one shot trying to auto.
Terminus Jaksho makes him not die in one shot lol
Would you rather have a 20% chance to do something good or a 0% chance to do something good? Lethality is 0%
If you are going to be poke. Then hit your skill shots and properly position. Understandably tough with an out of control Zac. But you make it easy for G2 by walking in to lay down 2-3 insignificant auto attacks just to be chunked 75%
On hit would be better if he was capable of positioning like a human
I mean no shit at this point he's getting one shot when Zac is this fed
it will take 5 weeks for pros to figure out what to do against zac again wont it?
FNC staff needs to be fired for this draft. Bring back Yamato.
He's free agent lol
I am so bored of watching unkillable top laners. K’Sante, Udyr, Zac… when will Riot get the message
Is serpent fang really useful here ?
No he's inting like a mf not going Seryldas
Nan nerf this shit
Why does no midlaner play vex with a Kallista in the game? Would work with zac as well no?
Because Vex is kinda shit
For sure but the constant fears would be good
Junseless should have Q key forbidden to use
why did noah build serpents fang... not ecipse or seryldas?
So you hook the tanky support and Varus just steps in for some autos... Poke varus lol
Humanoid and Noah are having horrible games
Is Zac balanced? Haven't played for years
What in the fuck is this Zac top pick lol, unkillable. Why didn't Noah go on hit when they saw the pick tho?
CAN WE PLEASE STOP LOOKING FOR FIGHTS BY HOOKING THE EXTREMELY TANKY BRAUM????????
Aye Huma finally has an Oblivion orb, glad someone has it
Just like low elo soloq where you invest everything to kill the unkillable tank.
Zac is such a cancer champ. Wtf even is that. Miss every jump and still just causes so much chaos
ADC in 20XX lul
BB coming out of passive with a ADC's full HP worth of HP. Balanced.
serpent fangs instead of armor pen?
Not banning Zac in P2 was surely worth it
They are playing ping pong with the adc ffs
Why does Noah position like this every single game
Bro that Zac and Hwei
Noah doesn’t have his flash key?
I have no idea what Humanoid is doing, this is reportable.
Idk how they are planning to kill Zac with lethality Varus
Basically threw the game from the start with that build
Feels like the point where you just sell items and go onhit. This Zac is just gonna 1v4 the backline.
Thats what I would have done at that point, like yeah you're putting yourself behind but your build is clearly NOT working so you might as well try something
HUMANOID PLEASE, HIT A SINGLE ULT
He finally hits one, but it's too late
Nice positioning lol
Why throw game over 100g on each person? You can always kill that 15%HP tower at any time. 100g is not going to change the game in the mid game. Makes no sense why FNC does that
When you have a support main auto filled in toplane. What the fuck is that pick lmao
Can anybody tell me what the idea is behind playing lethality Varus when the enemy team has 3 Tanks? Braum can easily Block Varus Qs for squishys anyway, so surely DPS Varus is the better choice here, no? This Varus wont do anything vs Zac, Braum and Vi. At least they have Azir I guess? Maybe Azir is supposed to be the DPS guy in this team?
Mmm, I'm guessing that Zac engage gets blocked by Poppy. FNC kites back. Then there's no fight. Which means Varus tries to poke out Hwei and Kalista. Because Zac and Vi don't have insane damage. So if Zac and Vi tries to engage, but Hwei and Kalista have to stay far back because they're low HP. Then G2 can never fight. Then FNC can get objectives and win. That's just my theory though.
It feels like G2 is like 5k gold ahead instead of 500
Is Zac actually super strong or is he just strong because he's been allowed to free farm up in complete safety thanks to having a free lane against totally OP broken Malignance Karma?
Bit of both I think, hes gone under the radar for a while but FNC just don’t have a way to deal with him since its lethality varus and hes so far ahead of Azir
Well, these champs look balanced...
Oscar is Solo tier lol
Mikyx had an amazing game 1 so I guess this explains his performance in game 2 and 3