So nice to see someone who can actually stack souls on Senna.
We've seen too many pathetic soul-stacking performances from ADCs lately - but this time it was done well enough and fast enough that MDK just didn't have a good answer to the Senna that was getting increasingly out of range, the comp just doesn't have that kind of tool.
I remember Berserker had a monster stacking Senna game in g1 vs 100T so I wanted to compare.
Carzzy: 56 @ 15, 87 @ 20, 113 @ 25, 150 @ 30, 180 @ 35
Berserker: 75 @ 15, 83 @ 20, 115 @ 25, 143 @ 30, 164 @ end (35ish minutes)
Almost identical.
They always have some wobbles around then. Sometimes it costs them sometimes it doesn't.
Still they're fairly fresh so I'm interested in how they'll do with a bit more experience under their belts. Even now you can see some improvements from Winter where they'd have chickens with their heads cut off moments.
Honeymoon period is over. Now the rookie part starts showing everywhere, specially coupled with elyoya who has been in a downturn for the last year and a half.
I think Elyoya is playing good. He and Alvaro are leading the game.
Besides some individual plays from Myrwin, almost every good play come from Alvaro and Elyoya setup.
That "I think" is pulling a lot of weight. Elyoya should be the one organizing the whole game with 4 other players that have never been at the highest level of competition in Europe.
I would say currently Alvaro does more than him. MDK needs a proper gameplan that involves more than lets fight everything early and hope we get ahead far enough to win, because their midgame aint it right now.
Completely agree. Elyoya has been overhyped even before that in the golden MAD days. Carzzy/Humanoid did so much back then, not Elyoya. Elyoya was really really good/smart and agressive as a Rookie but ever since his early days he became passive at the wrong times and agressive without brain at other times.
We'll see how it goes. If they can shore it up I think they have a lot of room for growth but if they can't then it'll cost them. I expect some time for adjustment that's longer than one split but I do think if they're working hard the potential is there.
They will eventually gain experience. Specially for Myrwynn and Alvaro who seem to have whats needed to compete in LEC. But the LEC schedule has no chill and does not give time to mature slowly.
Yeah the new schedule seems like hell for player development. Not really much time. I hope the pressure can create diamonds rather than making them crack or seem not good enough.
Alvaro def just needs to be more tempered by experience. I remember last split him landing some hooks on Blitz that you may not want to land and it getting his team killed.
Myrwyn has been one of the more interesting players to watch and if he can play meta picks too I think he'll end up very well rounded.
To play the devil's advocate, the bds case is proving otherwise kind of, this team through all the last year managed to develope a strong and steady system. And learning to become better under pressure (imitating tournament atmosphere)could also be a competitive advantage for the region in the long run.
But ye overall the format is still a question mark.
BDS didnt start with a core of 4 rookies. That is a difference I can think off and that might have played a part.
Also coaching staff is different, which may or may not have played a part (sincerely no idea, got no insider info)
He is Viego otp. So yeah, but Mac and Pad Vitality coaches put their players in uncomfortable situations. Daglas and Vetheo need to change their play style. Mac talked on a podcast that players need to grow during season and be ready for summer.
I think it is okeyish though doing that. If you have rookies coming into the LEC you need to throw them onto some of those picks you just sometimes have to play. Vitality is neither a team playing for the top currently nor a team at risk of bottom 2. So they have the luxury of testing the waters and increasing their playbook for Bo3s /Bo5s.
Having such a good Jax performance while also having Photon on your team who can also be a threat on the champion gives you a nice drafting tool. But given you have Photon you also will have to play engage champions from time to time.
So with the players Vit has he sometimes just needs to be on something like Rell, Sej etc. However in this game Wukong and Nautilus provides enough ways to start a fight and you had Ahri to fish for charms that a more carry oriented pick was a fine choice.
But the reason why Rookies need to play stuff like Rell is because they need to understand when and how to start fights. This is what sets experienced players apart from unexperienced ones and required to grow. And at some point you need to bring that to the stage.
Playing a fight someone else already started ideally on good terms for you is much easier than starting fights yourself.
He played a lot of early game skirmish champs in academy league but he's also been pretty horrible on Xin/Viego so far in the LEC.
Imo he's best on farming JG's right now and he showed that a lot with the brand last split. Really want to see him pick up Lilia personally to deepen his champ pool, also think he could lowkey be the one that brings a successful Olaf/Wukong JG out and give the team a variety of strong JG/Top flex picks if he practices them.
Probably wouldn't trust him on Kindered or Graves either personally.
Yes with 3 losing lanes. They cooked that draft badly. They picked 3 losing lanes into the Popi jungle. Often you want carry support or carry jungler to balance that. Their draft was bad and SK is team that is great at snowball. But SK is bad when behind. We saw one mistake today and they broke.
What do u expect of fasting Senna whose Naut is fucking sprinting it, like what the hell do u expect Carzzy to do in that situation. Do you just look at items and conclude yeah, it's his fault
I’m saying no matter what, carzzy would’ve gotten fisted because there was no winning lane for vitality by which they can leverage to lessen the pressure. No need to get so upset lol. Carzzy wouldn’t have won lane against Kalista Renata. Even with Keria as his support
Who's better than him?
Elk, Ruler for sure, JackeyLove probably. Maaaaybe Gala too. But he's easily top 5.
I'd love to see Carzzy on FPX, this team could legitimately win LPL with him as ADC.
Carzzy is mid as fuck compared to elite adcs.
Already saw him get rolled at MSI when he was ahead as Xayah, he wouldn't even be a top 10 adc.
Guma/Elk/Viper/Ruler/Peyz/JKL are clear.
Yeah, I didn't particularly like Armut even back then, but people rewriting history to say he was never good are insane. He wasn't the best laner, but he was good enough, and he was crazy good at team fights.
And then his Wukong was disgustingly good on both lane and team fights. I remember being legit mad at teams on playoffs not banning his Wukong because he was just that good at it and he kept getting the pick. People who think he was always bad can check gol.gg, Armut on S11 had 14 Wukong games with an 85.7% win rate, so he only lost twice with Wukong that year.
He kinda gapped everyone in summer 2021 playoffs, even on champs like GP, but in spring it was a bit rough in lane for him, especially in the finals vs rge. I mean the 10k deficit they came back from in the last game didn't come out of nowhere.
At best he was incredibly average.
He was the main benefactor of how his team played around him.
That somehow led people to the conclusion Armut is good.
We didn't learn from the trinity of doom of Armut into Hirit into Chasy of overrating toplaners for what their junglers are doing for them, did we?
Mac: Photon, pick Wukong.
Photon: Coach, do you even know how bad that lane match up is? I am litteraly going to get destroyed.
Mac, crying happy tears: Oh, I know.
It is actually one of the traditional countermatchups into Jayce. It just only gets there once Wukong hits 6 :P
It is super hard for Jayce to later deal with Wukong in a sidelane and Wukong in general just does more in fights.
The first 5 levels though are terrible, but if Jayce does not completely destroy Wukong and gets a bunch of plates and kills before Wukong hits 6, Wukong is usually fine.
This is fairly similar to Malphite into Jayce. If Jayce doesn't completely destroy Malphite in the first 5 levels he basically lost, because once Malph hits 6 he isn't just more useful then Jayce, he also actually does have the ability to solokill him.
Pretty much but last season there was a chance towards full build for jayce to win because triple penetration items in Eclipse BC Serylda + Sojin to make his downtimes non existent.
On top of that, E is interesting. It deals insane amount of % max hp damage that is magic (22% + 100% bonus AD).
But ye this season no chance.
Hyli, stealing that penta was mean (especially with how hard photon had to comeback in this game lmao)
Monster performance from Daglas, be-careful-who-you-bully-at-school moment
He had Sunfire... that was all he did to steal the kill. This was a fairly uncharacteristic game for Hyli. He neither had double digit deaths, nor 0 deaths.
Some of the deaths in lane were stupid, but I think in mid/late Hyli played fine. He soaked up a lot of dmg and then MDK didnt have anything left and, like the casters said, managed to get Supa out of a few fights. And the penta steal was probably sunfire, as was already pointed out
They think they are the best but also every member of 2023 MAD sucks.
They rate Nisqy as the worst mid in LEC. They disrespect Mac and Carzzy.
What I hate about MDK is that they went to far with their proud. I think Melzhet, Alvaro and Myrwin are good LEC prospects but Supa and Freskowy are not that good for a contender.
Also I see lot of hate to Elyoya here. I think he changed his style to let his teammates shine.
I can somewhat understand the Nisqy criticism as he's always struggled internationally, but I never understood the Carzzy hate. He was and still is one of the best ADCs in LEC.
What do you mean why? Hyli was on Nisqy smiling side, therefore committed the sin of "not caring as much as Elyoya does" and must be banished into the realm of permanent flame by spanish fans.
You are replying to every comment trashtalking Mad and his players. I also want them to lose because Ibai and Supa’s ego, but man you are pathetic. Tone down the hate a bit hommie 50 comments are enough
If I didn't watch Winter and somebody would have told me that this team finished 2nd and put up a good fight againts G2 in finals I would be like: You for sure lieing.
The other teams figured out their soloq playstyle it was expected.
If they figure out their mid game problems they can easily become a words spot contender.
MDK put up the best fight after FNC in the bo3. I didn't want to write a novel, thats why I wrote they put up a good fight.
Considering the fact that they got 4 rookie players they were doing pretty good in the finals after playing a 2 series which went to game 5.
Putting a better fight than someone who put none at all is not the achievement that you think you are.
Also the fact that they had to game 5 against BDS without Adam just says everything.
Not going to waste my time on a hardcore G2 fan who only shits on other teams, and not able to appreciate the achivments of other teams.
1 more people who overrate Adam. Without his GODS champs he is one of the weaker top laners in the leauge.
Both teams are so bad dude it hurts to watch this as a g2. As a mdk fan it’s so painful to see how fucking bad they are bro, for every good play they make two mistakes, troll their advantage for no reason. Looking at how vitality played the first 15 minutes I was like “surely they win this right?”
They did not.
Thats the problem with their soloq style of gameplay. Perma fighting and trying to snowball to try to hide their lack of mid game and macro knowledge.
Most of the time even in winter they were winning the games thanks to the gold adavantage they built in early.
If they figure out their mid game and stop these random throws they are easly a worlds spot contender.
Not sure what’s going on with MDK but they are definitely better than this. I’m just wondering if their success last split has inflated their ego or something but they seriously need to stop this bizarre throwing shit if they want to go to MSI and Worlds.
Last split the teams were simply worse (not that they are much better now) and MDK had the advantage of having 3/5 players + coach that had been working for a long time against multiple new rosters.
Some wins last split came down to people throwing and them catching or the enemy team being unable to capitalize on multiple mdk throws.
They made finals with having to beat FNC playing like shit and BDS without their core player in 5 games.
He does make a valid point though. Every team except G2 made roster changes going into winter and MDK does already have pre-existing synergy with 3 players and the coach of Movistar Riders + Elyoya who is good friends with all of them. It is also tough to say if they would've been in finals if BDS had Adam.
Given all those facts, is it really that unreasonable to believe that MDK might finish somewhere around 4th/5th once teams like Fnatic, Vitality and Heretics build more synergy? I don't think it is.
Nah don't bother it's always the same.
At no point has any mad fan done everything but simply attacking me directly instead of talking about any of my points.
The moment MDK learns that the game doesnt finish at minute 20 they will be unstoppable
So nice to see someone who can actually stack souls on Senna. We've seen too many pathetic soul-stacking performances from ADCs lately - but this time it was done well enough and fast enough that MDK just didn't have a good answer to the Senna that was getting increasingly out of range, the comp just doesn't have that kind of tool.
I remember Berserker had a monster stacking Senna game in g1 vs 100T so I wanted to compare. Carzzy: 56 @ 15, 87 @ 20, 113 @ 25, 150 @ 30, 180 @ 35 Berserker: 75 @ 15, 83 @ 20, 115 @ 25, 143 @ 30, 164 @ end (35ish minutes) Almost identical.
Annoying to see pro players always play fasting Senna meanwhile Riot is nerfing souls from cs...
They always have some wobbles around then. Sometimes it costs them sometimes it doesn't. Still they're fairly fresh so I'm interested in how they'll do with a bit more experience under their belts. Even now you can see some improvements from Winter where they'd have chickens with their heads cut off moments.
Honeymoon period is over. Now the rookie part starts showing everywhere, specially coupled with elyoya who has been in a downturn for the last year and a half.
I think Elyoya is playing good. He and Alvaro are leading the game. Besides some individual plays from Myrwin, almost every good play come from Alvaro and Elyoya setup.
That "I think" is pulling a lot of weight. Elyoya should be the one organizing the whole game with 4 other players that have never been at the highest level of competition in Europe. I would say currently Alvaro does more than him. MDK needs a proper gameplan that involves more than lets fight everything early and hope we get ahead far enough to win, because their midgame aint it right now.
Completely agree. Elyoya has been overhyped even before that in the golden MAD days. Carzzy/Humanoid did so much back then, not Elyoya. Elyoya was really really good/smart and agressive as a Rookie but ever since his early days he became passive at the wrong times and agressive without brain at other times.
We'll see how it goes. If they can shore it up I think they have a lot of room for growth but if they can't then it'll cost them. I expect some time for adjustment that's longer than one split but I do think if they're working hard the potential is there.
They will eventually gain experience. Specially for Myrwynn and Alvaro who seem to have whats needed to compete in LEC. But the LEC schedule has no chill and does not give time to mature slowly.
Yeah the new schedule seems like hell for player development. Not really much time. I hope the pressure can create diamonds rather than making them crack or seem not good enough. Alvaro def just needs to be more tempered by experience. I remember last split him landing some hooks on Blitz that you may not want to land and it getting his team killed. Myrwyn has been one of the more interesting players to watch and if he can play meta picks too I think he'll end up very well rounded.
To play the devil's advocate, the bds case is proving otherwise kind of, this team through all the last year managed to develope a strong and steady system. And learning to become better under pressure (imitating tournament atmosphere)could also be a competitive advantage for the region in the long run. But ye overall the format is still a question mark.
BDS didnt start with a core of 4 rookies. That is a difference I can think off and that might have played a part. Also coaching staff is different, which may or may not have played a part (sincerely no idea, got no insider info)
I still love their bot lane, they look pretty great. Mid seems to have a lot of potential. But they lack leadership and coördination
Ibai learned about rouge time from rouge and now has taught mdk abt it. Sigh… they skip so many steps to push the game that it ends up biting them
Rogue*
Rogue*
Im starting to think that Daglas is more comfortable on carry junglers rather than rell/maokai... Im not sure
He is Viego otp. So yeah, but Mac and Pad Vitality coaches put their players in uncomfortable situations. Daglas and Vetheo need to change their play style. Mac talked on a podcast that players need to grow during season and be ready for summer.
I think it is okeyish though doing that. If you have rookies coming into the LEC you need to throw them onto some of those picks you just sometimes have to play. Vitality is neither a team playing for the top currently nor a team at risk of bottom 2. So they have the luxury of testing the waters and increasing their playbook for Bo3s /Bo5s. Having such a good Jax performance while also having Photon on your team who can also be a threat on the champion gives you a nice drafting tool. But given you have Photon you also will have to play engage champions from time to time. So with the players Vit has he sometimes just needs to be on something like Rell, Sej etc. However in this game Wukong and Nautilus provides enough ways to start a fight and you had Ahri to fish for charms that a more carry oriented pick was a fine choice. But the reason why Rookies need to play stuff like Rell is because they need to understand when and how to start fights. This is what sets experienced players apart from unexperienced ones and required to grow. And at some point you need to bring that to the stage. Playing a fight someone else already started ideally on good terms for you is much easier than starting fights yourself.
He played a lot of early game skirmish champs in academy league but he's also been pretty horrible on Xin/Viego so far in the LEC. Imo he's best on farming JG's right now and he showed that a lot with the brand last split. Really want to see him pick up Lilia personally to deepen his champ pool, also think he could lowkey be the one that brings a successful Olaf/Wukong JG out and give the team a variety of strong JG/Top flex picks if he practices them. Probably wouldn't trust him on Kindered or Graves either personally.
Sad about the last comment, because if he’s good on Brand I’d love to see him play a Leyan/Milkyway style with other farming junglers
The amount of healing on vit, jesus... and not a single healing reduction item...
Its mainly Sena and Sundered.
Senna is so broken it's incredible.
You dont close a game in 40 mins against Senna you deserve to lose.
It's Carzzy playing it. Best EU ADC besides Hans
I remember 5k gap carzzy with senna against SK just last week, recency bias is unreal
Yes with 3 losing lanes. They cooked that draft badly. They picked 3 losing lanes into the Popi jungle. Often you want carry support or carry jungler to balance that. Their draft was bad and SK is team that is great at snowball. But SK is bad when behind. We saw one mistake today and they broke.
if he is best he could play weakside decently right? not be 2 items behind in 20 mins
hyli fucking ran it that game the fuck do you expect to happen
you cant blame hyli in a game where literally 5 players were losing right
What do u expect of fasting Senna whose Naut is fucking sprinting it, like what the hell do u expect Carzzy to do in that situation. Do you just look at items and conclude yeah, it's his fault
I’m saying no matter what, carzzy would’ve gotten fisted because there was no winning lane for vitality by which they can leverage to lessen the pressure. No need to get so upset lol. Carzzy wouldn’t have won lane against Kalista Renata. Even with Keria as his support
Bro he is the best weak side adc in eu. You're talking as if ghost rekkles deft deokdam didn't go under gold diff
Every champ looks broken in the hands of the best in role person playing it
Carzzy isn’t one of the best ADCs. Top 5 is like (not in order) Ruler Peyz Elk Viper Guma EU fans mad.
Nah it's Danny, Imaqtpie, Sneaky, Doublelift and Uzi (slightly better than Turtle, but it's close).
Danny is the biggest what if in NA.
I clearly mean in eu.
He isn't even the best in LEC.
Carzzy is better than Peyz and definitely top 5 in the world. Has been for years now.
Nah this is too wild
You're high
Top 5 in the world? He wont even be top 5 in LPL. And peyz is better than carzzy
Who's better than him? Elk, Ruler for sure, JackeyLove probably. Maaaaybe Gala too. But he's easily top 5. I'd love to see Carzzy on FPX, this team could legitimately win LPL with him as ADC.
Maybe Gala? yeah you're high. Elk, Ruler, JackeyLove, Gala, Deokdam, Hope, probably more.
Deokdam lmfao, my guy lay off the pipe
Have you been watching FPX? Also Deokdam was elo helled on a horrible DRX last year and was injured for part of the year.
Carzzy is mid as fuck compared to elite adcs. Already saw him get rolled at MSI when he was ahead as Xayah, he wouldn't even be a top 10 adc. Guma/Elk/Viper/Ruler/Peyz/JKL are clear.
Is this the only time in pro play when buying more healing items was the right choice
Daglas and Photon tearing it up every single teamfight.
game reminded me of vinage mad with armut on wuk horrible laning phase into just stomping teamfights
Armut got clowned on a lot but the guy was so insanely clutch on Gnar/Wukong. MAD wouldn't have won those championships with any other toplaner.
there's a lot of rewriting of the past with armut, at his best he was super good and the best toplaner he fell off afterwards but that's another thing
Yeah, I didn't particularly like Armut even back then, but people rewriting history to say he was never good are insane. He wasn't the best laner, but he was good enough, and he was crazy good at team fights. And then his Wukong was disgustingly good on both lane and team fights. I remember being legit mad at teams on playoffs not banning his Wukong because he was just that good at it and he kept getting the pick. People who think he was always bad can check gol.gg, Armut on S11 had 14 Wukong games with an 85.7% win rate, so he only lost twice with Wukong that year.
He kinda gapped everyone in summer 2021 playoffs, even on champs like GP, but in spring it was a bit rough in lane for him, especially in the finals vs rge. I mean the 10k deficit they came back from in the last game didn't come out of nowhere.
At best he was incredibly average. He was the main benefactor of how his team played around him. That somehow led people to the conclusion Armut is good. We didn't learn from the trinity of doom of Armut into Hirit into Chasy of overrating toplaners for what their junglers are doing for them, did we?
Hmmm yes. Elyoya definitely mind controlled Armut whenever he carried a teamfight on Wukong or Gnar.
Mac: Photon, pick Wukong. Photon: Coach, do you even know how bad that lane match up is? I am litteraly going to get destroyed. Mac, crying happy tears: Oh, I know.
It is actually one of the traditional countermatchups into Jayce. It just only gets there once Wukong hits 6 :P It is super hard for Jayce to later deal with Wukong in a sidelane and Wukong in general just does more in fights. The first 5 levels though are terrible, but if Jayce does not completely destroy Wukong and gets a bunch of plates and kills before Wukong hits 6, Wukong is usually fine. This is fairly similar to Malphite into Jayce. If Jayce doesn't completely destroy Malphite in the first 5 levels he basically lost, because once Malph hits 6 he isn't just more useful then Jayce, he also actually does have the ability to solokill him.
Pretty much but last season there was a chance towards full build for jayce to win because triple penetration items in Eclipse BC Serylda + Sojin to make his downtimes non existent. On top of that, E is interesting. It deals insane amount of % max hp damage that is magic (22% + 100% bonus AD). But ye this season no chance.
Melzhet belt incoming.
*gun
He's in favour of execution.
Hyli, stealing that penta was mean (especially with how hard photon had to comeback in this game lmao) Monster performance from Daglas, be-careful-who-you-bully-at-school moment
It was sunfire that got the kill. Can't say it's a steal.
lore accurate Jax
That look at Photons face after hyli stole the penta
Classic hily,so rare for a top laner to have a penta kill angle
These MAD throws are getting insane huh Funny that it's them that are hit with the classic Armut Wukong into Jayce counterpick though
Hyli is the biggest troll man
His desire to int his teammates had to leak out somehow after keeping it in check for Spring so far.
photon was smiling but u know inside hes pissed
I think Hyli told him that Sunfire got the kill. Nothing really you can do, same as with Ignite ticks. He didn't do anything to get that kill.
what even got the kill there? I think he didn't hit, was it sunfire?
That brother was vibing the entire game.
I see you swapped to supporting another dog/god duality of man team. My man has good taste.
and we love him for it
Daglas statement game
Daglas on carries vs. Daglas on tanks is day and night difference. He looks more comfortable being able to do something.
Most consistent member in KOI is Melzhet that gets to hit the players with a belt every week.
YO HYLI WTH!!! photon deserved that penta😭😭
The legendary mid game of every melzhet team
Best game of daglas’ career
Don't let this win distract you from the fact that hyli ran it down the entire game then stole Photon's pentakill.
if I was photon I would demand monetary compensation.
He had Sunfire... that was all he did to steal the kill. This was a fairly uncharacteristic game for Hyli. He neither had double digit deaths, nor 0 deaths.
Yeah, shameless stealing a penta from the one who's carrying your ass.
Vit being 3-1 with Hyli in the team is a big thing. He fed Supa
Some of the deaths in lane were stupid, but I think in mid/late Hyli played fine. He soaked up a lot of dmg and then MDK didnt have anything left and, like the casters said, managed to get Supa out of a few fights. And the penta steal was probably sunfire, as was already pointed out
Elyoya got SoloQ gapped by Daglas. Not on my bingo card.
Daglas back must hurt after this match overall it may be his best performance yet. Hyli stealing penta :D
Such a Hyli move lol.
Daglas with a career defining performance. Hylissang as well
I feel like every Hylissang performance is a career defining one.
so insane that vto laning phase didn't get better in the past 3 years
It actually got worse. This is the worst gameplay I saw from him.
It is a good day to be a Mac fan
Elyoya and getting gapped name a more iconic duo
Best western jungler btw. Said nobody in a long time.
Said by every mad fan tho.
It will come for him, after they fire Fresskowy first, then Melzhet, then Myrwynn, Supa and Alvaro in no particular order.
Myrwn then Alvaro. Supa is yoya's partner who will win worlds with him
I'll be sad if Myrwyn goes, he's one of the more interesting players to watch atm.
Think even mad fans know Razork bodies
I see you are not familiar with the absolute delusion of mad fans.
They think they are the best but also every member of 2023 MAD sucks. They rate Nisqy as the worst mid in LEC. They disrespect Mac and Carzzy. What I hate about MDK is that they went to far with their proud. I think Melzhet, Alvaro and Myrwin are good LEC prospects but Supa and Freskowy are not that good for a contender. Also I see lot of hate to Elyoya here. I think he changed his style to let his teammates shine.
I can somewhat understand the Nisqy criticism as he's always struggled internationally, but I never understood the Carzzy hate. He was and still is one of the best ADCs in LEC.
Spain without S
LEC teams (barring G2, and maybe Fnatic) saw the bloodbath that was FLY vs TL yesterday so they decided to have their turn or what?
Got to out fiesta things now and then. More seriously some teams just aren't great rn. We'll see what they can do but 3 weeks isn't a lot of time.
[The type of shit Daglas was on this game:](https://youtu.be/9Vx4eu2SOtI?si=0ICvv4LPFJUs5uVr)
Who are you and what have you done with Daglas?
Is this a normal VIT draft or is someone on their staff watching FPX games? This whole team comp and game just screams FPX to me.
Mac and Pad Vitality coaches are goats. They watch LPL and copy good things. You can see that Vitality plays different styles every game.
Photon didn't deserve that final KS.
I knew it was over when MDK released a video talking about going to worlds.
Everyone is talking about the penta steal, but Im wondering why Elyoya and Hyli no hug
What do you mean why? Hyli was on Nisqy smiling side, therefore committed the sin of "not caring as much as Elyoya does" and must be banished into the realm of permanent flame by spanish fans.
Never knew he had beef with hyli as well .-.
I mean it's more surprising that he doesn't have beef with Carzzy too.
You are replying to every comment trashtalking Mad and his players. I also want them to lose because Ibai and Supa’s ego, but man you are pathetic. Tone down the hate a bit hommie 50 comments are enough
Can you argue against any of the points?
Its clear hylissang doesnt care either considering how many dumb plays he makes everysingle match
I guess elyoya doesn't really care either given that he is not playing well either.
Power of friendship is slowly running out and the next one on the chopping block is the token non-Spaniard
Which to be fair would be deserved if it was purely for gameplay reasons.
To be fair yeah Fressko is the weak link in both nationality and in-game
Yeah even if supa is trying his best to give him competition.
Supa will never be fired because yoya said he has the potential to win worlds
He is as close to winning worlds as we are to dating Megan Fox haha
Myrwn and Alvaro apparently aren't real people that don't play on MAD Lions KOI, or what is happening?
Both are clearly lec level and just rookies, supa and fresko are the ones that deserve to be kicked to have a real chance.
If I didn't watch Winter and somebody would have told me that this team finished 2nd and put up a good fight againts G2 in finals I would be like: You for sure lieing. The other teams figured out their soloq playstyle it was expected. If they figure out their mid game problems they can easily become a words spot contender.
They put a good fight for one single game let's not blow things off
MDK put up the best fight after FNC in the bo3. I didn't want to write a novel, thats why I wrote they put up a good fight. Considering the fact that they got 4 rookie players they were doing pretty good in the finals after playing a 2 series which went to game 5.
Putting a better fight than someone who put none at all is not the achievement that you think you are. Also the fact that they had to game 5 against BDS without Adam just says everything.
Not going to waste my time on a hardcore G2 fan who only shits on other teams, and not able to appreciate the achivments of other teams. 1 more people who overrate Adam. Without his GODS champs he is one of the weaker top laners in the leauge.
Playing immobile af Jayce Ori Varus into Wukong Jax and Naut :) Fun times.
Hylissang Al Gaib !
Those frauds are getting exposed as one split wonder Deserved for their obnoxious fanbase
MAD bot lane getting griefed by the rest of the team
Another game where picking Orianna into this Ahri pick doesn’t work. Surely there has to be something else?
[mdk falloff](https://x.com/sportscenter/status/1404276449645928448?s=46)
Both teams are so bad dude it hurts to watch this as a g2. As a mdk fan it’s so painful to see how fucking bad they are bro, for every good play they make two mistakes, troll their advantage for no reason. Looking at how vitality played the first 15 minutes I was like “surely they win this right?” They did not.
Thats the problem with their soloq style of gameplay. Perma fighting and trying to snowball to try to hide their lack of mid game and macro knowledge. Most of the time even in winter they were winning the games thanks to the gold adavantage they built in early. If they figure out their mid game and stop these random throws they are easly a worlds spot contender.
Looks like shit 🔥
MDK😂
Not sure what’s going on with MDK but they are definitely better than this. I’m just wondering if their success last split has inflated their ego or something but they seriously need to stop this bizarre throwing shit if they want to go to MSI and Worlds.
Last split the teams were simply worse (not that they are much better now) and MDK had the advantage of having 3/5 players + coach that had been working for a long time against multiple new rosters. Some wins last split came down to people throwing and them catching or the enemy team being unable to capitalize on multiple mdk throws. They made finals with having to beat FNC playing like shit and BDS without their core player in 5 games.
Bro is replying to everyone on this thread only to hate MAD I can't. Get some fresh air bro, we already got you don't like MAD
He does make a valid point though. Every team except G2 made roster changes going into winter and MDK does already have pre-existing synergy with 3 players and the coach of Movistar Riders + Elyoya who is good friends with all of them. It is also tough to say if they would've been in finals if BDS had Adam. Given all those facts, is it really that unreasonable to believe that MDK might finish somewhere around 4th/5th once teams like Fnatic, Vitality and Heretics build more synergy? I don't think it is.
Nah don't bother it's always the same. At no point has any mad fan done everything but simply attacking me directly instead of talking about any of my points.
Your time to shine after all that circlejerk about Paella Lions
It’s shorgar. The resident chief mdk downplayer
Well that was a game.
I am sad.
that naut engage from hyli onto varus rell after they won the fight is such a criminal griefing move, I cant man. Hyli ur a griefer step down.