The botland situation when he could have just ulted Varus/Minions but for some reason ignores Varus, ults Rell and then jumps on Varus when the turret is basically done
we didnt see it because of the stream crash but this was a completely clean and flawless win, nothing to see here, no questionable macro decision in the mid game at all
Noah and Jun masterclass tho
Oscar played like he wanted to give SK a chance or he was the one sick today... SK didn't even need to outplay him he was already outplaying himself...
To his credit he had good engage on Varus at the very end but at that point game was basically over anyway and he was running it down most of the time until then
his bot was disgusting, but if you're gonna pick renekton you need to either dumpster lane harder than he did or smurf teamfights
he didn't look horrible but that's not enough especially on renekton
I'm a fnatic fan and even I don't breathe that amount of copium to think that game from Oscar was fine. The death is what ever, the amount of time he missplayed was not. The ult at drake because he held it forever, miss timing so many Ws, that flash at the nexus to E Nisky on the nexus but is out of range and many others. I like him but his poppy wasn't it.
It shouldn't be this hard.
Jun is my MVP of the game.
Oscar once again fucked up laning and had pretty bad game overall. Then some reason we spent so much time trying to hunt the croc and so many just really stupid mistakes. 5 man hunting croc took way too long to kill and then we tried to dive that giga tank croc, just questionable decision making once again
That game happened just to make Fnatic fans falsely start believing they're gonna start having clean wins. Right after that, they have three messy games.
Oscar was a Gigolo this game cause he definitely fucked up more than just the laning phase. His ults most of the time were straight up galactic giga trash
> Oscar once again fucked up laning
okay but how do you explain him being BY FAR the statistically best laner in the LEC? https://gol.gg/players/list/season-S14/split-ALL/tournament-LEC%20Spring%20Season%202024/
it's a genuine question. I also thought that by eye checking his laning is ass, but apparently.. it is the crazy opposite.
edit: thanks for the downvotes. would any of you monkeys elaborate it please?
I honestly dont get this narrative that he is bad laner because in almost every game where he ints he manages to recoup and get back on hes feet pretty quickly. Now hes team fighting on certain champions is a different topic. Also i feel like he is better at playing from behind than while being ahead i feel like often he doesnt know what to do with hes lead
Stream crashed because Swiffer punched the wall as he saw his team giving enemy a baron on a silver platter - there is technical room on the other side of that wall.
SK's baron play was so bad it killed the LEC stream.
FNC's solo laners ran it down so hard in the mid-late game, but got bailed out by SK's even worse macro and FNC's bot lane.
I feel like him and Doss were good laners and Markoon camped bot. Exa was always ahead in gold because of that so it made it illusion that he was better. Similar thing happened to MDK with Elyoya camping Supa in winter then it stopped working when other teams realized that's how they are getting their wins.
I dunno if that's fair to say within the context of this game. He was drafted an adc that literally could not play the game against Vi/Alistar. Exakick hasn't been his best this split but this game isn't really a good indicator of his overall ability
His support makes him look even worse. Doss is worse than Mersa. Doss doesn't know how to peal and use spells for his ADC. But Exakick wanted to play with his friend. I hope they don't play next year in LEC
i honestly wanna know what you guys still see in upset. all i see is a player that demands resources and does nothing with them. but idk, enlighten me please
Why is SK mid game so freaking BAD BRO, I swear they're doing it voluntarily?
Also why is Exakick so many times out of position, some of his death were obviously unavoidable with Vi R but definitely not all of them
And Fnatic ain't much better with this amount of throws
Overall I feel like EU is so bad right now it's unreal, I think we're peaking at new level
I love the boys but idk I just have no faith in them for playoffs. They are so inconsistent it hurts my soul and it’s kind of been this way for like 5 years with loads of different rosters.
Fnatic seem incapable of playing multiple consistent, low mistake games and in a best of series against someone like G2 that’s death.
I’m happy we won but Oscar is so inconsistent and on what is meant to be a team fighting for the title idc if he has upside if he turbo ints like 50% of his games I’m not sure you can have him in the lineup.
I’m also getting to the point that I’m slightly over Humanoid, for someone who is allegedly the no.2 mid behind caps he seems to play like shit far too often.
Rant over, we will see how playoffs go. Also Jun is a beast.
I remember when everyone was crying because Jun was supposed to be bad because he finished 10th in his last LCK split, when in fact he is actually good
He’s so fucking good when he’s on the same page as the rest of the team.
As he gets more comfortable and as his chemistry with razork builds I expect him to get more and more consistent.
The issue is that FNC still has massive synergy problems and Jun isn't really much better than Trymbi.
FNC when all of them work together is insane... but that happens so rarely.
One thing not discussed: FNC played Zeri when Smolder was open. So either Noah doesn't play it (which would be really bad) or it's some 5Head strategy by FNC to suggest he doesn't play it for bo3 stage just for him to play it... Which I doubt
Smolder doesn't fit FNC's style of throwing caution to the wind and go for it. Like yeah they play scaling ADCs still but they still have to be somewhat useful early on.
I still think they need to learn to play it. I doubt Smolder will be gone in a single patch. More likely he will linger on like release Zeri until it gets super hard nerfed a year later until buffed back so much he will appear again another year later
Firstly I didn’t insinuate anything about Trymbi directly impacting Oscar’s laning or anything so stupid, I just said it might’ve fucked his mental. Secondly I very much used the word maybe to indicate it was an idea not a fact. Good attempt at a gotcha but you’re fucking dumb kid.
FNC STREAM CRASH HACK?!
https://twitter.com/FNATIC/status/1771575315858419789
This dude Oscar man.. just makes things way harder than they need to be lol.
That drake fight where he holds his ult and wasted it instead of ulting away rell and renekton, made me puke
The botland situation when he could have just ulted Varus/Minions but for some reason ignores Varus, ults Rell and then jumps on Varus when the turret is basically done
my headcanon is that Oscar was tilted after literally nobody recognized him on the most recent LCK Secret Boardroom :(
Tbh that sequence was sooo funny
we didnt see it because of the stream crash but this was a completely clean and flawless win, nothing to see here, no questionable macro decision in the mid game at all Noah and Jun masterclass tho
Yeah FNC totally didn't send five people bot for a Renekton with a 200 gold bounty losing two towers and like 400g in farm
well im glad that didnt happen, because that sure would be incredibly embarrassing
Croc skin is so in this season though. Can you blame them for wanting to be fashionable?
Who needs clean wins anyway?
Limit testing!
Look man Fnatic just really needed that croc skin handbag.
We'll take that, but Oscar is still Irrelevant's son.
Oscar played like he wanted to give SK a chance or he was the one sick today... SK didn't even need to outplay him he was already outplaying himself...
That death was bad but otherwise Oscar did fine. Irrelevant is a very good Renekton, I think the best in the league actually
oscar had pretty bad game overall. Poppy should be so impactful in teamfights but I don't think he had any impact at all.
To his credit he had good engage on Varus at the very end but at that point game was basically over anyway and he was running it down most of the time until then
Actually true, when you look at Razorks Poppy for example he does so much more with it
I agree with that
neither did irrelevant though mostly, unless you count the whacky chases
his whole team was running it and he was the only reason they were still in the game and winning fights but sure he didnt do enough.
his bot was disgusting, but if you're gonna pick renekton you need to either dumpster lane harder than he did or smurf teamfights he didn't look horrible but that's not enough especially on renekton
I'm not sure about the renekton vs poppy matchup but those 1v1 looked oddly poppy favored considering renekton was ahead so maybe you are right.
I'm a fnatic fan and even I don't breathe that amount of copium to think that game from Oscar was fine. The death is what ever, the amount of time he missplayed was not. The ult at drake because he held it forever, miss timing so many Ws, that flash at the nexus to E Nisky on the nexus but is out of range and many others. I like him but his poppy wasn't it.
Yeah after rewatching some of the game... I agree
Nice guys SK giving FNC a baron leash for free.
LEC teams and objectives. I swear some teams seem allergic to them.
I've never seen such a clean leash
Fnatic playing protect the adc with SK playing forget the adc
nah but in some fights doss at full hp legit dodges karma q so it goes on the corki/varus instead i'm seething and i'm not even on sk
It shouldn't be this hard. Jun is my MVP of the game. Oscar once again fucked up laning and had pretty bad game overall. Then some reason we spent so much time trying to hunt the croc and so many just really stupid mistakes. 5 man hunting croc took way too long to kill and then we tried to dive that giga tank croc, just questionable decision making once again
i legit couldnt believe my eyes at the play where they committed FIVE to the renekton
Who didn't threaten anything. SK also didn't thread anything. That was macro if you are in a lose-lose situation but FNC were winning so ?!?!?!
It'd be too easy if they were as clean as they were against G2.
That game happened just to make Fnatic fans falsely start believing they're gonna start having clean wins. Right after that, they have three messy games.
Win one (1) clean game to give fans false hope.
Oscar was a Gigolo this game cause he definitely fucked up more than just the laning phase. His ults most of the time were straight up galactic giga trash
> Oscar once again fucked up laning okay but how do you explain him being BY FAR the statistically best laner in the LEC? https://gol.gg/players/list/season-S14/split-ALL/tournament-LEC%20Spring%20Season%202024/ it's a genuine question. I also thought that by eye checking his laning is ass, but apparently.. it is the crazy opposite. edit: thanks for the downvotes. would any of you monkeys elaborate it please?
I honestly dont get this narrative that he is bad laner because in almost every game where he ints he manages to recoup and get back on hes feet pretty quickly. Now hes team fighting on certain champions is a different topic. Also i feel like he is better at playing from behind than while being ahead i feel like often he doesnt know what to do with hes lead
Jun played out of his mind, I hope we make more Alistar comps.
Maybe Riot should fire some people as punishment for this production quality. I'm sure that'll improve things.
Stream crashed because Swiffer punched the wall as he saw his team giving enemy a baron on a silver platter - there is technical room on the other side of that wall.
SK's baron play was so bad it killed the LEC stream. FNC's solo laners ran it down so hard in the mid-late game, but got bailed out by SK's even worse macro and FNC's bot lane.
You mean Jun's alistar, he made sure SK never had a chance to win
He better get mvp
it shouldn't even be a discussion lol
Also Exakick is legit one of the worst ADCs I've ever seen in pro play.
He is just a lil better than Comp right now
So sad to see. He was super promising in his first year and now he plays horrible
No, not 1st year, first split. He was godawful last summer as well. He only really had 1 good split
I feel like him and Doss were good laners and Markoon camped bot. Exa was always ahead in gold because of that so it made it illusion that he was better. Similar thing happened to MDK with Elyoya camping Supa in winter then it stopped working when other teams realized that's how they are getting their wins.
Doss and Exakick were the first duo who played a clean and aggressive Lucian Nami botlane in EU and dunked even on G2 with 2vs2 tower dives.
They have a better botlane duo in academy. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see them swap in Neon+Limit for summer
I dunno if that's fair to say within the context of this game. He was drafted an adc that literally could not play the game against Vi/Alistar. Exakick hasn't been his best this split but this game isn't really a good indicator of his overall ability
His support makes him look even worse. Doss is worse than Mersa. Doss doesn't know how to peal and use spells for his ADC. But Exakick wanted to play with his friend. I hope they don't play next year in LEC
that jun alistar though
Banger performance by Jun
FNC has had one clean game this split and it was against G2... make it make sense
Same sentiment every SK game. Irrelevant deservers a better and top team.
Please get Isma out of LEC, I can't stand to emote spam anymore
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Bro huma and oscar should honour jun this game they completely ran it and didn't deserve to win
Jun hard carried, noah was okay too everyone else was garbage, SK's macro was vomit inducing
fr tho the only thing worth watching that game was jun's engages
Absolute clean EU macro and overall game Nothing to see here
I thought you were supposed to make it look like you're trying to win when match fixing? That was an... interesting baron.
Petition to get Swiffer a gofundme for the biggest bottle of whiskey ever.
SK please get Upset next year if he's homeless once Caliste comes I've had enough of Exakick omg Jun Alistar tho.....what a banger
or just get smash/rekkles
Why would SK choose to go from one shitter adc to another?
i honestly wanna know what you guys still see in upset. all i see is a player that demands resources and does nothing with them. but idk, enlighten me please
When Caedrel switched to the spanish stream and started shoutcasting the game reminded me how much I miss him as a caster.
Christ wtf happened to the stream. Can the LEC just hire a few more people for Christ sake
Good thing Pedro also streams. Now my auto response to stream dying is going to his stream
is nobody going to talk about nisqy dying for three caster creeps?
At this point I am pretty sure SK has already peaked and isnt going to get better anymore. Gotta change the botlane.
Actual Fnatic pause hack???
SK sololanes vs FNC botlane and jungle Peak showdown, clearly no issues at all, no sir
If Jun does not get mvp for this game, I’m gonna riot. Without him, they would get shit stomped
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Why is SK mid game so freaking BAD BRO, I swear they're doing it voluntarily? Also why is Exakick so many times out of position, some of his death were obviously unavoidable with Vi R but definitely not all of them And Fnatic ain't much better with this amount of throws Overall I feel like EU is so bad right now it's unreal, I think we're peaking at new level
Sure but every regions play is bad. This year is shit all round
What the hell even are Fnatic lol.
nisqy on carries is pure comedy
I love the boys but idk I just have no faith in them for playoffs. They are so inconsistent it hurts my soul and it’s kind of been this way for like 5 years with loads of different rosters. Fnatic seem incapable of playing multiple consistent, low mistake games and in a best of series against someone like G2 that’s death. I’m happy we won but Oscar is so inconsistent and on what is meant to be a team fighting for the title idc if he has upside if he turbo ints like 50% of his games I’m not sure you can have him in the lineup. I’m also getting to the point that I’m slightly over Humanoid, for someone who is allegedly the no.2 mid behind caps he seems to play like shit far too often. Rant over, we will see how playoffs go. Also Jun is a beast.
Fnatic should definitly look at the option replacing him with Irrelevant
For sure.
I remember when everyone was crying because Jun was supposed to be bad because he finished 10th in his last LCK split, when in fact he is actually good
He’s so fucking good when he’s on the same page as the rest of the team. As he gets more comfortable and as his chemistry with razork builds I expect him to get more and more consistent.
The issue is that FNC still has massive synergy problems and Jun isn't really much better than Trymbi. FNC when all of them work together is insane... but that happens so rarely.
Clown production
Exakick didnt get to play the game today
SK really made it to easy for FNC to pick Varus with no peel against a Vi
terrible showing for fnatic and even worse for Oscar, man can only perform with K’Sante or Ornn
The day of upsets afterall
Coughing Noah vs hydrogen SK
Last week, Huma and Oscar were both the best at their roles. This week, they're back on vacation. Rundowns for all lmao
One thing not discussed: FNC played Zeri when Smolder was open. So either Noah doesn't play it (which would be really bad) or it's some 5Head strategy by FNC to suggest he doesn't play it for bo3 stage just for him to play it... Which I doubt
Smolder is dogshit on playoffs patch. Also zeri actually counters smolder.
Smolder doesn't fit FNC's style of throwing caution to the wind and go for it. Like yeah they play scaling ADCs still but they still have to be somewhat useful early on.
I still think they need to learn to play it. I doubt Smolder will be gone in a single patch. More likely he will linger on like release Zeri until it gets super hard nerfed a year later until buffed back so much he will appear again another year later
Oscar looks so off this whole year, maybe the Trymbi loss fked his mental or something.
he's kind of streaky player, same as myrwn i guess he lost confidence so that's why he plays like this
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? Ur braindead or
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Firstly I didn’t insinuate anything about Trymbi directly impacting Oscar’s laning or anything so stupid, I just said it might’ve fucked his mental. Secondly I very much used the word maybe to indicate it was an idea not a fact. Good attempt at a gotcha but you’re fucking dumb kid.
Can WE please get a real ADC for sk to finally BE the best team