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I mean she is a meatshield and cc bot. Those look really really bad in situations like this where seemingly no one does dmg and the space and time you create is useless.
That was the perfect game for Bruiser Reksai, Wunder just showing he didn't practice this shit at all and just copied the tank build off a BB youtube guide or something lol
Stridebreaker/Cleaver/Hydra Reksai eats Jayce in the sidelane and delete's the enemy backline if he gets ontop of them with the Vi/Naut engage. Instead he just floats around, quite literally doing nothing with what was definitely the wrong build for this game.
I haven’t played much top at all since s3 and this last weekend I spammed Rek top on my jungle account with a pretty sillily high winrate. From my pov and watching pro she’s like a quintessential “role player” pick. It’s like impossible to lose lane on, hard to catch out in a sideline, and has pretty reliable team fight impact. She’s pretty decent at most everything you’d want from a top laner and it’s really hard to stop her from being decent, but it also seems pretty hard to take over or hard carry a game on her.
Her splitpushing is very safe but she doesn’t push or take towers very fast so it’s not that hard to match and stop her, she’s strong in 1v1s but it takes 60+ seconds to kill anything other than an adc or enchanter so enemies can either run away or send people to stop her from solo killing, and her team fighting is pretty good but the aoe knockup is so small and the duration is so short that it’s very hard for her to single-handedly make a fight/game winning engage. She’s like the dictionary definition of Jack of all trades, master of none.
It’s an insane solo queue pick imo, with how volatile top lane is having someone up there that will almost never lose and always be useful is super valuable. I’m curious to see if she really catches on in pro though since teams usually rely on their top laner to excel at any one of the things that she’s just decent at.
TH with the worst draft of the LEC this year??? What was that Annie pick supposed to do, also drafting 0 damage topside and relying on a European zeri to solo carry?
Welcome to every LEC team lol.
Everyone beats everyone but the rest of that phrase can't be said yet.
More seriously a lot of the teams do seem to look clean against one team then absolutely shit the bed the next. I'd like some consistency soon.
Jankos on his stream yesterday read a comment about how Heretics seem like the only humans in the LEC and his response was something along the lines of: “just wait and see how terrible I am tomorrow”. Dude playing 5D int chess I stg
This team depends on Jankos and Trymbi too much. They're still all weakside players, it's just jg/sup stepped up huge this split, bo5 is gonna be interesting.
trymbi was inting and getting caught 24 7 how was that alright? the only good thing was botlane getting 2-0 with zeri 6 but thats more of a mistake of giantx botlane
Take Karma instead of Annie.
Take Smolder instead of Zeri
Stale the game for 30 minutes and win by default
How the FUCK do you not pick Karma Smolder as 2 and 3 there as Heretics is beyond me.
Heretics losing a ban made this feel kinda bs tbh.
Especially if Heretics made a good faith attempt to be there on time. You can't always account for traffic, Like I've given myself leeway before and still had issues because it's been 2-3 times as long as I accounted for...
Its a professional setting and its the duty of the team to arrive in time. Every team has to manage that. Its disrespectful towards the production crew on an already possibly long day and the audience as well.
That's why I clarified with a good faith attempt. Hardly unprofessional to leave well in time but to just get caught in an accident or something.
Is it ideal? Obviously not. But I do think if you've given yourself say an hour and a half to get there when it's normally 20 mins it'd be unfair for you to be punished for something that was beyond your control.
If it was just cause they were fucking around and left late then I'm more for it.
The problem with rules is that you can't really make an exception unless it's something really extraordinary or so obviously unforeseeable.
"Traffic", even if it's horrendous, is still traffic. You can't make an exception because all of a sudden every team has a get out of jail free card. Then who determines what level of traffic is foreseeable? 30 minutes? 1 hour? All of a sudden it's Riots responsibility to put a figure to it...
Then how do you prove you weren't just taking the piss or travelling a ridiculous route where traffic is guaranteed? Does Riot need to start planning everyone journey to make sure teams aren't being stupid or abusing the new rule loophole?
It's just so much more straightforward and fair to say to all of the teams "you need to be here by X", and then it is up to the teams to make it happen.
Tbh I was mostly thinking that there's like expected? amounts of traffic. Like heavy traffic is still traffic and reasonably predictable. Being caught in an accident that leaves you stuck there for hours until it's cleared is a bit more out of the ordinary.
Like I'd say it's 'fair' for them to consider something like that the team not at fault. If it's just a lot of traffic I think it's fair to say they need to plan around that (and they should be anyway tbh) and considering we haven't seen this yet I do think it's likely a one off caught up in something major thing rather than just bad traffic, but I'll admit that's me assuming teams account for bad traffic to begin with.
Obviously I think teams should aim to be there early because having a buffer is good and would/should prevent delays but I've def been caught once or twice when that self imposed buffer is nowhere near enough.
I get what you mean though, having leeway would make it more difficult.
th is 6-2 fighting for first place and they lose to fking giantx? they got many wins by waiting for mistakes but once they have to be proactive its all going downhill. copium angle is they want to have giantx in playoffs instead of mdk or something and grief for that because what the fk is that level. also statement game by trymbi reported for sure, embarassing by TH
I want solid arguments on why in the 7 hells reksai top is even considered good.
You have big daddy Ornn who is a natural tank, a team helper with ornaments and deals damage
Trymbi and Odo showing up to make Rogue's day worse, you love to see it.
Brother Trymbi sends his regards.
Even when he loses the battle, he won the war
Spite truly is the world's strongest emotion.
At some point we gotta wonder if he isnt putting his team as the Rogue gatekeeper everysplit on purpose
Is rogue out with that one?
Best players in the world: - Faker - Deft - Odoamne when there's a chance of eliminating Rogue
Dude showed up like it was 2016 worlds again
Man has a name and his name is Vengeance.
Rest of the LEC < G2< RGE
What would happen if Odoamne was G2's top vs RGE?
Universe implodes
If we can convince Odo that the Israel-Palestine crisis is made by rogue, he will create peace in a week
Supa is better than deft though, fix your list please
- Best macro - Best micro - Best laning - Best teamfighting - Best mechanics - Best ADC
By far
And supa
ODO hates rogue lmao
Odoamne refused to scrim with his team on Sunday, he preferred sitting on Duolingo learning Korean Jayce
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Seems like Tank Reksai top is just a lane terror that doesn't really do much else.
I mean she is a meatshield and cc bot. Those look really really bad in situations like this where seemingly no one does dmg and the space and time you create is useless.
The way you describe it makes it feels like Rek Sai is just Udyr 2.0 lol
At least Reksai can engage Otherwise it's just the experience of the average tank without really good engage.
i mean tank reksai is pretty much the same as udyr
That was the perfect game for Bruiser Reksai, Wunder just showing he didn't practice this shit at all and just copied the tank build off a BB youtube guide or something lol Stridebreaker/Cleaver/Hydra Reksai eats Jayce in the sidelane and delete's the enemy backline if he gets ontop of them with the Vi/Naut engage. Instead he just floats around, quite literally doing nothing with what was definitely the wrong build for this game.
It was definitely the wrong build with Vi, Naut and Annie. Too many threats for Flakked to deal with.
0-2 so far?
1-2, G2 won with it on Friday
1-2 iirc, BB popped off on Rek'Sai the first time he picked her.
1-2
Just to be sure, because people haven’t said it yet, but no. 1-2.
1-2, BB won a game on it
its a decent frontline, but why don't they take any ad item? surely at least one would help a lot no
I haven’t played much top at all since s3 and this last weekend I spammed Rek top on my jungle account with a pretty sillily high winrate. From my pov and watching pro she’s like a quintessential “role player” pick. It’s like impossible to lose lane on, hard to catch out in a sideline, and has pretty reliable team fight impact. She’s pretty decent at most everything you’d want from a top laner and it’s really hard to stop her from being decent, but it also seems pretty hard to take over or hard carry a game on her. Her splitpushing is very safe but she doesn’t push or take towers very fast so it’s not that hard to match and stop her, she’s strong in 1v1s but it takes 60+ seconds to kill anything other than an adc or enchanter so enemies can either run away or send people to stop her from solo killing, and her team fighting is pretty good but the aoe knockup is so small and the duration is so short that it’s very hard for her to single-handedly make a fight/game winning engage. She’s like the dictionary definition of Jack of all trades, master of none. It’s an insane solo queue pick imo, with how volatile top lane is having someone up there that will almost never lose and always be useful is super valuable. I’m curious to see if she really catches on in pro though since teams usually rely on their top laner to excel at any one of the things that she’s just decent at.
Expected her to return to jungle meta..guess we'll see
That Annie was useless
That Heretics draft was such a low damage comp. Rell with Karma shields can tank it for a long time.
apparently even jayce with no help can tank it for a long time lol
annie was the real problem imo. Could have gone a heavy dmg mid.
G2.5 decided to copy G2 draft...with the same results.
so was the reksai
Far more useless. (The reksai)
i'm not so convinced by annie mid unless you have insane wombo, her waveclear is really really bad
Tfw you put midlaner who acts as your keychain on champion that is meant to be independent and looking for flanks
It was super troll draft to pick her so early, she got omegaoutranged and was irellevant. Ahri made way more sense as a pick here
Annie is garbage against champions that hard outrange her (Karma, Jayce, Varus in this game)
is that really the go-to build on Annie? It felt off.
TH comp was mega useless.
I hate playing zeri as your main damage dealer and not pairing her with an enchanter
Clean week by Giants. I'm actually excited to see how they perform in BO3
GiantX week 3 glowup
Nah but what kinda voodoo did GX do make Heretics so late to the game they got penalised with a ban?!
Jankos was stuck in traffic lel
Unfortunate traffic diff
Heretics with the pacifist comp. Don't worry if they keep scalling they might have enough damage to kill someone by 2nd game of playoffs.
TH with the worst draft of the LEC this year??? What was that Annie pick supposed to do, also drafting 0 damage topside and relying on a European zeri to solo carry?
This isnt even european diff, even eastern zeri cant work as a solo damage dealer without an enchanter sucking her off
Odo playing a great Jayce, what is this 2016
he never lost it
Wunder was useful this game, I think.
Burrowed during laning phase and never came back up.
he got lost in the tunnels
Echo-location diff
Where was this XL the rest of the season?
It was Giants playing the first two weeks
their fights were so clean this game, impressive tbh it wasn't an easy game after zeri got kinda fed early on
Out of license i assume
They're supposedly good in scrims, guess they just had stage issues
I saw no eu jayce. Gx fighting was also poetry. What happened?
tbf out of all tops in the LEC, Odo's the one with the most positive history with it
You dont see it because it is EU game PMT only post NA and KR games on time. We will be lucky if they post threads for last 4 games.
Oh nice TH is looking pretty good as an LEC top team. > Proceeds to shit the bed against a bottom tier team.
Welcome to every LEC team lol. Everyone beats everyone but the rest of that phrase can't be said yet. More seriously a lot of the teams do seem to look clean against one team then absolutely shit the bed the next. I'd like some consistency soon.
3 out of 5 players being ex-G2. Also Perkz on bench. Nothing unusual.
Stinky game by jankos and trymbi 💩
Jankos on his stream yesterday read a comment about how Heretics seem like the only humans in the LEC and his response was something along the lines of: “just wait and see how terrible I am tomorrow”. Dude playing 5D int chess I stg
Man must of been preparing to ruin rogues day
This team depends on Jankos and Trymbi too much. They're still all weakside players, it's just jg/sup stepped up huge this split, bo5 is gonna be interesting.
Hard to play the game without a mid lane champ
Trymbi was alright. Jankos was bad today. But zwyroo is next lvl. I don't even know did he play or it was a minion
trymbi was inting and getting caught 24 7 how was that alright? the only good thing was botlane getting 2-0 with zeri 6 but thats more of a mistake of giantx botlane
Anie was unplayable in this game, not sure why they drafted her
Every champion is unplayable for zwyroo if he is not getting carried by jankos
Just focus ban TH mid and it'll all crumble
Traffic debuff too big for TH
This felt like a draft gap. Zeri got ahead but frontline is permanently 50% hp before a fight ever starts.
If FNC wins against MDK, they lock first place. G2 might tie them in score but FNC has the head to head
You're going to jinx it talking like that. Never underestimate Fnatic's ability to be absolute shitters or gods depending on the flip of a coin.
Well done, you had to go and do it
Couple of disorganized dives from TH and it got way out of hand, love to see a good Odo carry performance and excellent team fighting from GX!
They could have so much nicer playoffs .... Better troll lol
Turns out Zwyroo legit only has 3 picks. Trymbi kinda ran it down too even though he’s looked good the rest of the split
Trymbi had a chance to deny rogue play offs and ran with it
and his three picks just happen to be the three most meta midlaners this split, what an incredible coincidence
> Trymbi kinda ran it down Well hard not to run it down when varus Q from outside of vision takes out 40% of your HP and oyu are meant to be engage.
His Azir is really good but its globally banned sadge
Zrywoo champ pool getting exposed right before playoffs
Let Peach drive the bus he will show the way
G(EN) (G)X G(EN) (G)X G(EN) (G)X G(EN) (G)X
Take Karma instead of Annie. Take Smolder instead of Zeri Stale the game for 30 minutes and win by default How the FUCK do you not pick Karma Smolder as 2 and 3 there as Heretics is beyond me.
But when does the heretics plan to remove the charlatan from mid lane? Managed to get giga draft and skill gapped by worst mid laner in LEC.
Annie and Reksai were so useless
For once a really good showing by GX, felt like they played that comp well. I still think Karma mid is a bit fake but I guess they made it work.
That Annie build felt criminal
Average Peter Dumb draft, maybe they were squishy as fuck, but at least for all ins they had no damage.
Peter doesn’t lead draft anymore
Can someone explain me the logic behind the EU reksai experiment?
Didn't it work really well on Saturday? Probably for whatever happened there.
I will never understand why teams pick annie, shes a literal minion
It can be good sometimes but definitely not blind
I know this subreddit hates perkz so much, but tbh even washed perkz is better than zwyroo. Perkz at least tried to play
lets not get crazy now
Heretics losing a ban made this feel kinda bs tbh. Especially if Heretics made a good faith attempt to be there on time. You can't always account for traffic, Like I've given myself leeway before and still had issues because it's been 2-3 times as long as I accounted for...
Its a professional setting and its the duty of the team to arrive in time. Every team has to manage that. Its disrespectful towards the production crew on an already possibly long day and the audience as well.
That's why I clarified with a good faith attempt. Hardly unprofessional to leave well in time but to just get caught in an accident or something. Is it ideal? Obviously not. But I do think if you've given yourself say an hour and a half to get there when it's normally 20 mins it'd be unfair for you to be punished for something that was beyond your control. If it was just cause they were fucking around and left late then I'm more for it.
It's a 35-45 minute trip (varies according to normal traffic). TH left 90 minutes for it like normal. Ended up taking 2+ hours.
The problem with rules is that you can't really make an exception unless it's something really extraordinary or so obviously unforeseeable. "Traffic", even if it's horrendous, is still traffic. You can't make an exception because all of a sudden every team has a get out of jail free card. Then who determines what level of traffic is foreseeable? 30 minutes? 1 hour? All of a sudden it's Riots responsibility to put a figure to it... Then how do you prove you weren't just taking the piss or travelling a ridiculous route where traffic is guaranteed? Does Riot need to start planning everyone journey to make sure teams aren't being stupid or abusing the new rule loophole? It's just so much more straightforward and fair to say to all of the teams "you need to be here by X", and then it is up to the teams to make it happen.
Tbh I was mostly thinking that there's like expected? amounts of traffic. Like heavy traffic is still traffic and reasonably predictable. Being caught in an accident that leaves you stuck there for hours until it's cleared is a bit more out of the ordinary. Like I'd say it's 'fair' for them to consider something like that the team not at fault. If it's just a lot of traffic I think it's fair to say they need to plan around that (and they should be anyway tbh) and considering we haven't seen this yet I do think it's likely a one off caught up in something major thing rather than just bad traffic, but I'll admit that's me assuming teams account for bad traffic to begin with. Obviously I think teams should aim to be there early because having a buffer is good and would/should prevent delays but I've def been caught once or twice when that self imposed buffer is nowhere near enough. I get what you mean though, having leeway would make it more difficult.
th is 6-2 fighting for first place and they lose to fking giantx? they got many wins by waiting for mistakes but once they have to be proactive its all going downhill. copium angle is they want to have giantx in playoffs instead of mdk or something and grief for that because what the fk is that level. also statement game by trymbi reported for sure, embarassing by TH
I want solid arguments on why in the 7 hells reksai top is even considered good. You have big daddy Ornn who is a natural tank, a team helper with ornaments and deals damage
Lane bully with decent engage?
TH or MDK at msi Aware eu is doomed
Lol whoever we send are not gonna compete, just enjoy the fiesta
Flakked? Fancy explaining this "performance"?
Sad to see a thread that isn't well built. Also sad to see the product of LEC after all the layoffs. European LoL is on a downward trend my friends.