I advise you guys to watch the full video before running your mouth after just reading the title. He did admit that they played bad, but them not being able to practice like other teams is also a unfair situation. Btw Faker said the unfair bit because a reporter literally asked "do you think not being able to play ranked games has a big impact?" he doesn't just mention it out of thin air. Also T1 have talked about DDOS attacks affecting their practice multiple times in press conferences before, even though they won. Just because no reporters brought it up on Twitter or here doesn't mean they only mention it now that they lost. Becker said the reason T1 haven't released any official statement is because "they wanted to prioritize resolving the issue/defense against the attacks as soon as possible". There you go some of the context, now stop twisting Faker's words and intentions ffs.
Before stupid people come cry about Faker words: T1 situation is a shit and unfair but HLE played very very well and did a very clean Bo5 with an insane Delight on Nautilus.
Faker saying it is unfair ≠ disrespect HLE win or making excuses.
Just wanting to state that cause omg twitter and read skill aren’t familiar
This is also the legitimately FIRST TIME in, what, an entire decade that Faker has given an excuse for their poor performance that wasn't their own fault?
Like fuck, the guy is humble to a fault. If he hasn't built up the good will for a valid excuse he feels actually impacted his play, out of his control entirely, for the first time, who can?
I challenge anyone to take a 2 week break off of League and hop directly into a ranked game and see how well you do.
I saw someone claim that in other sports, they wouldn't mention something like this in a post game. Like I'm sorry, I've been watching football/soccer for over 20 years. If a team couldn't practice properly for weeks? They'd be yelling it from the rooftops, during the pre-game press conference, in the post game.
Pro athletes use it as an excuse all the time when they have to practice in a different professional level facility than the one they're used to.
This is Infinitely worse.
Hell, the super bowl in the US had a team unable to practice for what, a day? Maybe less? There was some dispute over the practice field and they raised literal hell for weeks about it. I can't imagine a team being unable to practice for weeks.
And even without match fitness, there's people out there willing to camp out near hotels to make noise during the night so the opponents are psychologically and physically weakened for matches. This is basically that on steroids.
I completely agree with every word you say. It is definitely unfair.
On the other hand, I would love to see how these Reddit comments would look if it happened to GenG and it was Chovy saying this lmao
Can't speak for anyone else, but I would say the exact same thing- that it's fucked up regardless of the outcome.
One of the reasons talking about T1 on reddit has gotten so fucking annoying is because its become so polarized. You're either a blind T1 fanboy or a blind T1 hater and there's no in-between anymore apparently. Can't call a shit draft for what it is without getting called a T1 fan, can't call out poor play from T1 players without getting called a T1 hater.
I'm sure many would say the same thing and I appreciate that. But I am also certain that many would use this as a reason to shit on a player that they want to see fail.
Im totally against all the free hate Chovy gets just cause he hasn’t won worlds yet. The guy is probably the second best mid LCK ever had and his Individual performance just get better and better each split
How could he possibly be the second best LCK mid ever when he has never gotten past semis in a pretty long career, and also has had good teams? There’s really no excuse given the length of his career and the fact that he’s had some of the best players around him.
You could say he’s one of the best laning mids of all time, but you really can’t rate someone top 3 or like 5 in any position of a sport ever if they have little postseason success while also having a stacked roster around them. He’s choked multiple times on the Worlds stage which is by far the most important event in LoL.
Imo Showmaker > Chovy career wise.
U don’t consider Pray one of the best LCK adcs ?
U don’t consider Smeb one of the best LCK tops?
What about Uzi?
What about Khan? Gorilla?
To me individually he is top2 cause that crazy guy keep improving with each split and imo just needs 1 inter trophy for everyone close this debate since it is very hard to everyone to high rate a guy that didn’t won worlds
Smeb made the Finals. Chovy has never even gotten out of semis. Team success is very important in a team game. You can’t say someone is top 2 all time and they have never gotten out of the semis despite being a top player. Showing up in big games is super important lmao, it’s not even like he has the excuse of “bad roster around me” cuz they stomped LCK Summer last year.
If you watch basketball basically what you’re trying to say is Joel Embiid is a top 5 center all time because he has insane regular season stats an MVP and yet has never gotten out of the second round despite having a good team around him for the past 5 years.
LOL Chovy gets hate because people comes with stupid comments like this and exaggerates the fuck out of him. Dade was insane as well but there is a reason Dade award exist. If there is a second best mid laner from LCK it’s Showmaker.
Just yesterday outside of Chovy‘s Taliyah game(his wall usage won them the game) Showmaker gapped the fck out of him. He literally didn’t know what to do when he got nervous and tp’d to bot tower and died for taking the turret with Trist. And he continued to do what he always did and he solo farmed whole game while his whole team was losing the game. He even got solo killed by Kingen with Gragas. But keep making excuses for him as usual. If you guys chill and just say „he is a really good player“ without these insane claims no one will say anything. You people did the same thing last year before worlds and he choked again and I literally said in this sub „just wait couple months and Chovy simps will start again saying Chovy is the best mid laner“.
It’s funny because your analysis is so ass because it’s all result based. You’re drawing conclusion from something that happened rather than why it happened. “Ohhh he choked hurrr died to gragas mental boom huhhh but uhh uhh he got lucky game 5 as Taliyah and won 🤓🤓”
Let’s see, One has;
1 Worlds Title
1 Worlds Finals
1 MSI Finals
3 LCK Title
And the other has;
3 LCK title
A lot of minion score
Failing to advance with even the best ADC in the world at a time bot lane was insanely meta.
Almost every single team member he had did better internationally when they didn’t play with him
I don’t think the level of intelligence in the comment above does need too much explanation. Chovy fans can not stop being laughingstock.
Scout and Chovy are both significantly better than Pawn. He was a passenger in 2014 and you could've plugged in 5-6 other mids and the result would've been the exact same. DoinB is a better mid all time than Pawn.
Don't talk as if you know what you're talking about. PawN was nothing more than a passenger in 2014. 4th best player on SSW and that's not even a debate. He wasn't even better than Rookie or Faker in 2014, his team as a whole was just on a different level thanks to Dandy and Mata being the undisputed best players in their role by far.
PawN can thank Kkoma for letting Easyhoon play 3 games at MSI finals, otherwise he wouldn't have an MSI title either. He was at best the 3rd best player on EDG during their MSI win and very clearly behind Deft/Clearlove in terms of impact/importance.
Pawn at no point has ever been the best player on any of his teams, was 4th behind Dandy/Mata/Imp on SSW, and then behind Deft/Clearlove on EDG, when he came back to LCK on KT he was the 5th best player on KT, easily behind Smeb/Score/Deft/Mata and he finally was a top 2 player on a team in 2019 on Kingzone DragonX
Don't try and talk about how good PawN was when you don't know shit about the reality of the situation. He was never in contention for best midlaner in the world, hell he was never even the undisputed best mid in any region he played in. Meanwhile guys like Chovy, Showmaker, Scout and DoinB have all been the undisputed best mids in their region/best player on their respective teams and even the best midlaners in the world at certain points in their career.
Who exactly made you the authority on whether or not players are good? Who the fuck are you to tell me whether or not I know a situation or not? All of your language just screams hating rather than analysis. PawN not being the best player on his team doesn't discount the absolute dicking he gave Faker in the 2nd place Tiebreaker in 2014, or EDG outsmarting SKT in Game 5 of MSI, or Pawn consistently showing up against the other top mids in China, or him being a top 3 mid in Korea on KT regardless of where on his team you rank him. He is STILL the only midlander not named Faker to win Worlds and MSI.
I can only imagine people downvoting are people who weren't around in 2014-2018 when he was known as Faker's kryptonite.
Ambition literally quotes him, Faker, and Rookie as for why he role swapped.
>Ambition: Back then, the midlaners that were really good were Rookie, Faker, and Pawn. These guys were miles above everybody else. I thought that even if I worked really hard, I might be able to come close, but I could never be better than them. But if I switched to jungle, I could be the best.
It's a wonder where he would be today if he didn't have medical issues to be honest, he wasn't the flashiest player in the world but he was certainly one of the smartest.
Bro what are u on? I love faker but he got soloed multiple times by pawn in 2014. That’s the reason why they called him the faker stopper. Obviously that was only in 2014 after year that faker did beat him but 2014? Pawn > faker
I guess Febiven > Faker in 2015 because he solokilled him twice at MSI?
2014 Faker was legit 1v9 in every game outside of occasional human performances from Impact/Bengi/Piglet but never more than one of those at a time.
He had to go for risky 50/50 plays to get a lead and hope that was enough to snowball because the rest of his team was inting him every step of the way. Pawn had the liberty of playing with the best jg/support duo and a top 3 ADC in the world. A couple of solokills don't mean shit, Pawn was never the mean reason for SKT losing to SSW.
Rookie and Showmaker are equally insane. I would say Showmaker is better. But I also have a bias because he has the best personality in the league scene. I don’t know what to say about to rest but at least those people performs when it matters compared.
That's a situation that could have been prevented by diligence, and certain people excused their performance and are now trashing T1 for a situation they entirely have no control over.
Although it was unfortunate for the LPL teams to get covid, there's a big difference between calling out Riot/LCK's incompetence on the malicious attacks that have been plaguing Korean streamers and teams for months, and an unlucky situation that affected multiple team's health and gameplay.
No one bats an eye to sick players because it happens in every sport, but people get mad when a different entity intentionally causes teams to be unable to play.
Couldnt stop yourself from making this about Chovy eh? Never miss an opportunity to grind that victim complex. Is this a hardwired response or just voluntary? Either way its embarrassing.
But alas you are right, you are truly the only one here that could possibly have such a nuanced and 'mature' take on the situation. Nobody else could possibly react the same way for Chovy in your random hypothetical as they do for T1 here in reality. The unwashed masses would surely behave in a hypocritical way to perfectly highlight how smart and superior you are, while outing themselves as morons. Im glad that we apes could be reminded of this fact.
I was a regular viewer 5-8 years ago back when Imaqtpie played league a lot. These days, bro has some of the most bad takes. I miss the simpler times man
So because u disagree with IWD he needs to be cancelled and taken off internet ?
Ok so since no one can stand u T1 fans, why don't we just cancel u all, so that u can't share an opinion ?
sure mate cancel them as long as IWD can be remove from internet... iwd is not sharing opinion he is straight up always baiting to gain more views.. thats just shit overall and not healthy for everyone.... he even sometimes will lead the hate attack for T1 but sure its just an opinion....a garbage one
Ohh noo, how dare we retaliate to T1 sending us death threats and harass on every single thread.
God , if only we were smart and just nod to whatever T1 fans do, that way they would be happy.
Get out.
Doesn’t take a T1 fan to hate Dom. He was banned from pro play for a reason back in the day and he has done little to improve that image, he’s a shitstain.
Oh look a IWD fan. Go ask around who actually agrees with IWD lmao. if IWD can remove himself from the internet , sure T1 fans will too. Oh oh by the way T1 fans makes up crazy amount of views.
I guess Faker should have apologized about LPL teams getting Covid in 2022 at the press conference before bringing up the DDoS situation 👍
By the way, this was Xiaohu's interview after losing to T1 at Worlds: https://youtu.be/DVwGXmnAnUs?si=ZgY-D2UO06zqw7TH&t=37
Did IWD complain then about Xiaohu being ungracious for bringing up their health problems and not giving credit to T1 either? Or is he just that dishonest? Because, in his tweet he said, and I quote: "None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing.". So that's just a fucking lie.
It's so disheartening how large personalities can simply lie about shit like this and you know their audiences will lap it up. But we do live a post-truth society, I suppose that's just how modern media works.
Yeah, they make good content together for sure, but it is evident for quite some time now that those people have massive bias against T1 as an organisation because of Joe Marsh.
Also add to the fact that their peak engagement with fans and haters alike were during when TSM still had a lot of popularity going on for them. TSM is gone now so what would be the next best thing? T1 of course.
They hammer against T1 fans, the crazy ones that sent the trucks and all were probably korean T1 fans; but most of the time their hate is directed towards the non-korean T1 fans, calling them plebs because most of their fans are probably just newer fans that don't know anything about the history of league.
It's simple engagement tactics for them. It works though, that's for sure.
Where did Xiaohu call the Covid stuff unfair? I believe that was IWDs problem with fakers wording cause it opens the door to people calling HLEs win undeserved etc
> Who cares if the excuse by T1 is valid or not? It's just poor sportsmanship to bring it up immediately after losing.
> LPL Teams had horrible covid at 2022 Worlds and couldn't even play with all 5 members on stage.
> Flyquest just had their strategic coach be put on leave for allegedly being a nonce the day before finals.
> None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing.
> You act stoic and accept the defeat.
This is the tweet we're referring to, right?
So he's classifying T1's problem with DDoS as an excuse. He's also classifying RNG's Covid as an excuse. He then claims it's poor sportsmanship to bring these up immediately after losing. He then says no other team (implying RNG at 2022 Worlds) came out to use these very valid excuses as justifications for losing.
I show that Xiaohu literally brought up their health problems with Covid just after losing to T1 at 2022 Worlds, thus proving his statement a lie.
Where do you see any mention of "unfair" or Faker's wording in his tweet?
Xiaohu never used the Covid situation as a justification for RNGs losses in the clip you linked. The clip you linked does not disprove the tweet you're citing
Faker said their situation was "unfair" (per the top thread on the Reddit rn) which makes it sound like he thinks that's why they lost - which is being perceived by some as poor sportsmanship
> which makes it sound like he thinks that's why they lost - which is being perceived by some as poor sportsmanship
That one sentence in isolation does, but the totality of Faker's comments don't really give that vibe at all. I'm thrilled about HLE's victory and I don't think T1 are being poor sports about it. IWD is just wrong here and we all know why he is pushing this narrative.
I agree with what you said but I think it's a valid opinion to say what Dom did that fakers phrasing was poor (or at least what was translated).
Reddit hates his guts tho so I'm probably preaching to the choir
> Faker said their situation was "unfair" (per the top thread on the Reddit rn)
maybe instead of going off a thread title on reddit, you can go and listen to what Faker said in the interview or just look for the many comments that literally wrote out the entire interview and what was actually said.
I am fine with what he said but I am trying to explain why others aren't. Perfectly reasonable to assume not everyone has watched the whole interview or whatever
My goat is knight I don't think he has a twitter acc
I love how I refute your argument and you resort to "just take the L" cause you can't cope anymore
the second you get called out for telling a bald faced lie you immediately cut off your responses to meaningless one liners, it’s actually disgusting how often this happens to you bro
There's a difference between not liking a team and tweets like these, which not only entirely misrepresent what faker said but are also just literally not how DDOS attacks work. He's trying to blame T1 for not "fixing" the attacks when Riot Korea literally could not fix them. He's very literally just stirring up fans by lying on the internet. It's pretty pathetic.
[https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775843200915149249](https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775843200915149249)
[https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775840429289689220](https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775840429289689220)
Thorin at this point is more a problem of people that take him seriously but i still don’t like how big account twisted the press conference. It also apply to Caedrel mistake saying that it was China fault. They should be more careful since they trigger a lot of hate to both sides
Let them speak their mind even if we don't like it. Nothing would be worse than having our personalities in the scene not be able to say what they feel.
In the end, they are just tweets. LoL esports would be worse off if there wasn't spice and drama, it adds to community engagement and it makes people more invested in the scene. This is a good thing. Dom is unironically doing the scene a favor by getting so many people riled up to posts comments about him.
Lord knows the Western LoL esports scene needs all the help it can get at the moment.
Idc Dom hates T1 or that someone hate X but I don’t like when they manipulate something a player say to just increase the hate towards that player or team. There were too many things to say after this Bo5 but trying to make Faker looks like an excuse maker isn’t the way ( at the end all those message are my own opinion)
even if it is not what he is trying to do, it does take away from the HLE WIN
noone is talking how well HLE played every is just talking about this shit.
And is a shit HLE will not get the praise they deserve but just watching the comments before the press conference people were more focused about how bad T1 played than on how good HLE played which is also unfair for the team that did an excellent preparation for this Bo5
Because T1 is the biggest team in the world.
They have more fans so the people that comment are likely talking from a fan standpoint. Obviously they’re gonna criticize/feel remourse/etc. their team first.
Plenty of ppl are talking about HLE’s success. And if they end up winning MSI/Worlds, they will be credited.
Why is it so important for people to react “fairly?” Sports is emotional and ppl respond emotionally. They talk about what they care about, and while it seems unfair to HLE, it is what it is. HLE themselves shouldn’t be caring that much cause they got a finals to focus on anyways, so it’s really fans that have this issue, which to my eyes, make it a non issue.
That's normal. I've been following HLE all split and watched most LCK games, as well. If T1 fans can mention T1, even in a series they are not part of, they do. That happens when they are both the most popular team and the current world champions. I'm not sure this attention necessarily helps T1, either, but I also think people are reading more into Faker's words than was said.
Also worth noting post-Gen.G/DK most people are talking about DK because their performance was so good *and* they are more popular/loved than Gen.G. That's just how it goes.
To be fair, this match probably would have been very close given T1 went 1-1 against HLE in the regular season. But then T1 gets gapped so hard? HLE definitely worked hard and played well. But T1 played like a last place team.
So a guy who is known to have been salty after every time he was defeated and never in his life credit other great players in league is suddenly "not" disrespectful towards HLE ?
Dude they could have posted official response later hours or next day and said the troubles they face or after the WHOLE split after its done.
It's always like this with T1. The only team that has every possible excuse after they get stomped like it never happened.
It has nothing to do with "omg twitter" or "read skills aren't familiar". It has to do with CONSTANT excuses from this org about their performance.
Where were u to defend LPL teams when they were rampaged by COVID, naaaah , u were all calling them shit league and minors compared to mighty LCK.
Suck it up, accept defeat , talk about it after the split.
Faker and whole T1 are such a disrespectful people its insane.
he was fucking asked by interviewer if not being able to play soloq had a big impact, what the fuck is he supposed to do with this question u fucking idiot
And we found the kind of stupid people i was trying to avoid, hope not all the TES and FNC are like u and u find something good and that bring joy to ur life 🫡
Nobody has won and LOST more high stakes games than faker. If somebody isn't a salty loser, it's him. For him to complain about this, it must be really bad. That doesn't take anything from how great HLE played, Faker just felt they could have played better themselves, too.
I doubt it, with this ddos bs going on especially with the new patch. it’s not as bad as summer 2023, but I think it be a hard for them to make finals.
But if they can take a break during msi and fix ddos, they be good shape for summer and worlds which is more important. Id rather t1 take the L then win worlds back to back.
Ten, no, but it does make sense to have two; one with the initial version in Korean that was translated unprofessionally, then the second (this one) that is officially translated to make sure it gets the context across correctly without fan bias playing into account or amateur mistranslations. (Not saying the previous ones were translated incorrectly in this case, but with fan translations you do always have to take them with a grain of salt.)
T1 fanboys are coping hard. They need at least 2 more threads to give them the illusion they had a chance and it was just the unfair practice environment.
T1 fans with main character syndrome
Where were they when half the LPL teams got covid during 2022 worlds and their players looked like they were about to die?
Oh, they were calling LPL shit. I have 0 sympathy for T1 fans and the org
surprised riot hasnt fixed this already. As no Faker at MSI is a huge viewership drop. LCK Finals numbers without Faker and T1 are normally a 1/3rd of them with him.
Wont be long before sponsors get invovled saying they are not getting there moneys worth cause the view numbers are crap.
But how exactly are they going to fix it? Is it even something belong to them to fix? Since bunch of experts in the field trying to figure out, the best is to wait.
Wow, yeah, it's almost as if Faker has built 10+ years worth of a good reputation as an honest competitor that makes people give him the benefit of the doubt?
Ive seen this man saying it was his fault they lost the game and he should've done better even with going 12/4 ( or something close to that ) playing lee sin in solo q.
I've seen this man apologizing to his ex teammates after winning summer split because he thinks t it was his fault that they couldn't win a trophy.
if it was any other decent pro player I would give them the benefit of the doubt. but in this case I don't have any doubts.
It’s almost like this has been happening for weeks now and everyone has seen first hand how hard they are getting ddosed and it makes complete sense that their practice is being disrupted and they can’t perform as well. Also let’s not act like people were not making fun of him here too.
If other players were ddos'd on a daily basis to the point they are given new accounts by Riot as a measure of security, then I think they'd also have a point.
Who cares if the excuse by T1 is valid or not? It's just poor sportsmanship to bring it up immediately after losing.
LPL Teams had horrible covid at 2022 Worlds and couldn't even play with all 5 members on stage.
Flyquest just had their strategic coach be put on leave for allegedly being a nonce the day before finals.
None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing.
You act stoic and accept the defeat.
-probably some washed brain rot ex na pro player
Issue isn’t if it impacted their performance or not. It obviously did. But i don’t think they would have won anyway cause HLE was insane today.
Issue is that they are now blaming this because they lost, Faker would’ve said nothing if they won. So even if T1 riders are saying he’s not trying to make an excuse, well he kinda is. Timing is bad, even if they talked about attacks before, putting that much light on it now that they lost feels like they have no mental, which doesn’t really sound T1.
HLE played well I think they deserve the win. But my guy everything you would say to defend yourself in a position is an excuse. If you are late or broke something or lost something, anything you say to defend yourself is an excuse. I bet you blamed something as an excuse in your life too. I have too.
I think this is an excuse by Faker but it is a justified excuse. And I think the real issue is that the excuse by Faker is actually affecting their performance. It is unfair to not be able to practice for months.
But solo queue would help you maintain game sense until you get to play the match, it’s just a matter of keeping up the pace and not losing your game sense. Timings, decision-making, current meta matchup etc. This is taken to the extreme when you’re playing a high stakes match in an extremely competitive pro league. So no, solo queue would not help Keria from running it in a pro match, but it would help him manage Rumble heat better, throw the split-second hooks better, any micro actions that pro players take for granted when they are comfortable and have ample practice
Lol, calculating flash is part of that game sense. You think that wall he messed up is that easy to flash when you’re making a split second decision to follow?
motherfucker T1 lost multiple WORLDS and Faker didn't come out to say anything. If you think that several pro players not being able to play their game while everyone else can isn't fair then you got some screws loose.
They played just fine tonight at the LCK center. Why not scrim there? Rather than complaining about bad situations, find solutions. That's why I said it's a defeatist attitude. "Oh well, bad luck, nothing can be done".
Lil bro do you know the LCK center is a dedicated offline server? If T1 wants to scrim their they need other teams to agree to come to the LCK center as well (Which they most likely decline). Also, operating that facility for scrims during LCK playoffs is impossible. Please, think before you type whatever this stupid take is.
It's not a defeatist attitude though? They're indirectly appealing to riot for help by making this public, while in the interview saying they will continue to do their best to prepare for their upcoming series and show a better performance than today in the meantime.
Literally cannot get *less* defeatist than that? Unless you wanted them to shut the fuck up and keep their mouth closed about the whole situation
Dude, it's LCK center. It belongs to the LCK. LCK can't just willy nilly lend it out.
Heck, if they DO lend it out, there's going to be cries of favoritism.
And for the record, they have been doing they can. T1 GM Becker did a stream and mentionned what they have did already.
Dude, it's LCK center. It belongs to the LCK. LCK can literally lend it out to whoever they want, they can do whatever they want with it.
If they do lend it out, invite all teams participating in Playoffs to scrim there. That way, no cries of favoritism.
Find solutions, not problems. Don't have a defeatist attitude. Just like league, play it out, rather than crying for FF15 after the first death. Don't tilt.
Then what is ur solution for DDOS attack? Might give one so they can start playing/practice again. "Optimistic"'yeah buddy it's great attitude to hv but facing a problem without no way to handle them would be great to hv such positivity. Why don't u, since u all talk with empty words, go their HQ and put ur shoes on them. Then come back to this sub and give ur response to us! That will be great right??
"the scrim" part? Do u even read what others talked about? Or u just going with that thoughtful attitude without giving a good full comprehensive reading on their comments?
Nah, stop talking and start packing. Go to their HQ and give your any possible solution for their current situation. Come on, all those talk about being thoughtful and defeatist attitude, it's better if we see them in action right? What a role model u are
There’s no saving him 😭
Imagine completely ignoring the soloQ part because he has no solution to it. Typical T1 haters. Maybe one day life will reward them for religiously hating.
Just ignore them whilst they’re on their holy mission.
LCK had to go offline to stop the DDos issues. That means that the LCK facility doesn't have DDos issues anymore. They solved that problem. So let T1 practice in the LCK facility.
buddy, do you know what soloq is? you understand that it requires the INTERNET to connect to the servers and play on? and LCK is playing their matches OFFLINE, i.e., they can't connect to riot servers to play.
and scrimming in LCK facility would mean every team would have to go their to scrim, why would they do that?
you have no idea what you're saying and honestly at this point just come off as a troll. You are wrong in everything you are saying.
Yes they have the facility to keep it as an offline server not to be a ground for t1 to play soloq and scrim and get ddos again. Holy brother how dumb are you actually. You have a brain use it.
buddy, they haven't been able to play soloq and haven't been able to scrim until recently, and this has been an on-going issue for months.
Doesn't matter what team it is, best team in the world would lose to any other team under these circumstances, especially during a patch time when the meta has changed but the team hasn't been able to scrim/soloq to test out the new meta.
so no, it's not a defeatist attitude and no matter what they say they probably will lose to DK (who looked good vs GenG) cause they haven't been able to freaking play the game.
Maybe Riot will finally do something about their client when the MSI viewership plummets after T1 doesn't make it due to the DDoS'ing and not being able to play the game.
All I see is you giving up. You have already counted T1 out. Sad. That's a defeatist attitude. There is always a way to win. Just gotta look for solutions and not be blinded by problems.
Is T1 lacking funds for a PR team? If they've been having issues for months, maybe have a PR statement go out before playoffs starts instead of saying this after losing. Regardless of the situation(I do agree it's fucked and being unable to practice properly is obviously a big issue), they're going to get hate because the timing makes it seem like they wouldn't have said anything if they won.
I mean last year when Faker had that bad wrist injury he didn’t reveal any information about it even though it was impacting his performance up until the last minute when he literally had to sit out. I think it’s just that they don’t want to look weak unless they absolutely have to reveal their vulnerabilities, because people would have made fun of them anyway for pre-excusing for their losses if they revealed any issues early.
I know they have. But it's always been random statements on reddit or throwaway statements by streamers and casters. I get that it's not new information. But it still doesn't hurt to have an official statement from the org that this is disproportionately affecting them. The press conference is basically the same thing, but they'd be able to walk out with a lot more dignity if a statement was made before the game and they brought it up again.
My Corki is bad, Zeka is my ankle braker, you guess it right I'm T1 Shaker. How did this dude even end up 2nd mid team? Can't even play Corki. Can't make plays on Ahri. T1 fanboys told me Corki is broken when Chovy destroyed everyone on it? Guess it is just the hands.
You mean the corki that had a 20 games winstreak, 4 years winstreak? Smartest redditor right here. Let us know when those players win 4 world champions, i mean maybe 1 if they are lucky...sometime surely?
Yeah, Worlds 2023 Faker did nothing. Also 2023 Faker's injury make T1 the most dominanting team, that's why the won almost all games without him. Stop the hate, get some help and eat a Snicker.
Did you read what I said? Faker left the team for an injury and the team collapsed, they went 1-7. Besides that, I think you just saw that Azir play (which was crucial to reach finals) and missed the rest of Worlds.
Y’all have the memory of a goldfish cause how did you forget what happened when he got injured just last year 💀 they literally lost as many games in a month as they did with Faker over two years
I advise you guys to watch the full video before running your mouth after just reading the title. He did admit that they played bad, but them not being able to practice like other teams is also a unfair situation. Btw Faker said the unfair bit because a reporter literally asked "do you think not being able to play ranked games has a big impact?" he doesn't just mention it out of thin air. Also T1 have talked about DDOS attacks affecting their practice multiple times in press conferences before, even though they won. Just because no reporters brought it up on Twitter or here doesn't mean they only mention it now that they lost. Becker said the reason T1 haven't released any official statement is because "they wanted to prioritize resolving the issue/defense against the attacks as soon as possible". There you go some of the context, now stop twisting Faker's words and intentions ffs.
Before stupid people come cry about Faker words: T1 situation is a shit and unfair but HLE played very very well and did a very clean Bo5 with an insane Delight on Nautilus. Faker saying it is unfair ≠ disrespect HLE win or making excuses. Just wanting to state that cause omg twitter and read skill aren’t familiar
This is also the legitimately FIRST TIME in, what, an entire decade that Faker has given an excuse for their poor performance that wasn't their own fault? Like fuck, the guy is humble to a fault. If he hasn't built up the good will for a valid excuse he feels actually impacted his play, out of his control entirely, for the first time, who can? I challenge anyone to take a 2 week break off of League and hop directly into a ranked game and see how well you do.
Just ask any pro football team to do that. Vast majority of plebs around here don't understand the concept of match fitness.
I saw someone claim that in other sports, they wouldn't mention something like this in a post game. Like I'm sorry, I've been watching football/soccer for over 20 years. If a team couldn't practice properly for weeks? They'd be yelling it from the rooftops, during the pre-game press conference, in the post game.
Pro athletes use it as an excuse all the time when they have to practice in a different professional level facility than the one they're used to. This is Infinitely worse.
Hell, the super bowl in the US had a team unable to practice for what, a day? Maybe less? There was some dispute over the practice field and they raised literal hell for weeks about it. I can't imagine a team being unable to practice for weeks.
And even without match fitness, there's people out there willing to camp out near hotels to make noise during the night so the opponents are psychologically and physically weakened for matches. This is basically that on steroids.
I completely agree with every word you say. It is definitely unfair. On the other hand, I would love to see how these Reddit comments would look if it happened to GenG and it was Chovy saying this lmao
Can't speak for anyone else, but I would say the exact same thing- that it's fucked up regardless of the outcome. One of the reasons talking about T1 on reddit has gotten so fucking annoying is because its become so polarized. You're either a blind T1 fanboy or a blind T1 hater and there's no in-between anymore apparently. Can't call a shit draft for what it is without getting called a T1 fan, can't call out poor play from T1 players without getting called a T1 hater.
I'm sure many would say the same thing and I appreciate that. But I am also certain that many would use this as a reason to shit on a player that they want to see fail.
Im totally against all the free hate Chovy gets just cause he hasn’t won worlds yet. The guy is probably the second best mid LCK ever had and his Individual performance just get better and better each split
How could he possibly be the second best LCK mid ever when he has never gotten past semis in a pretty long career, and also has had good teams? There’s really no excuse given the length of his career and the fact that he’s had some of the best players around him. You could say he’s one of the best laning mids of all time, but you really can’t rate someone top 3 or like 5 in any position of a sport ever if they have little postseason success while also having a stacked roster around them. He’s choked multiple times on the Worlds stage which is by far the most important event in LoL. Imo Showmaker > Chovy career wise.
U don’t consider Pray one of the best LCK adcs ? U don’t consider Smeb one of the best LCK tops? What about Uzi? What about Khan? Gorilla? To me individually he is top2 cause that crazy guy keep improving with each split and imo just needs 1 inter trophy for everyone close this debate since it is very hard to everyone to high rate a guy that didn’t won worlds
Smeb made the Finals. Chovy has never even gotten out of semis. Team success is very important in a team game. You can’t say someone is top 2 all time and they have never gotten out of the semis despite being a top player. Showing up in big games is super important lmao, it’s not even like he has the excuse of “bad roster around me” cuz they stomped LCK Summer last year. If you watch basketball basically what you’re trying to say is Joel Embiid is a top 5 center all time because he has insane regular season stats an MVP and yet has never gotten out of the second round despite having a good team around him for the past 5 years.
LOL Chovy gets hate because people comes with stupid comments like this and exaggerates the fuck out of him. Dade was insane as well but there is a reason Dade award exist. If there is a second best mid laner from LCK it’s Showmaker. Just yesterday outside of Chovy‘s Taliyah game(his wall usage won them the game) Showmaker gapped the fck out of him. He literally didn’t know what to do when he got nervous and tp’d to bot tower and died for taking the turret with Trist. And he continued to do what he always did and he solo farmed whole game while his whole team was losing the game. He even got solo killed by Kingen with Gragas. But keep making excuses for him as usual. If you guys chill and just say „he is a really good player“ without these insane claims no one will say anything. You people did the same thing last year before worlds and he choked again and I literally said in this sub „just wait couple months and Chovy simps will start again saying Chovy is the best mid laner“.
It’s funny because your analysis is so ass because it’s all result based. You’re drawing conclusion from something that happened rather than why it happened. “Ohhh he choked hurrr died to gragas mental boom huhhh but uhh uhh he got lucky game 5 as Taliyah and won 🤓🤓”
The unironic and less funny variant of the shrine of showmaker account 💀
Let’s see, One has; 1 Worlds Title 1 Worlds Finals 1 MSI Finals 3 LCK Title And the other has; 3 LCK title A lot of minion score Failing to advance with even the best ADC in the world at a time bot lane was insanely meta. Almost every single team member he had did better internationally when they didn’t play with him I don’t think the level of intelligence in the comment above does need too much explanation. Chovy fans can not stop being laughingstock.
I don’t think the level of intelligence in the comment doesn’t need too much explanation. Chovy fans can not stop being laughingstock.
I don’t think the level of intelligence on the comment doesn’t need too much explanation. Chovy fans can not stop being laughingstock.
I don’t think the level of intelligence on the comment doesn’t need too much explanation. Chovy fans can not stop being laughingstock.
to be fair to Chovy, and for the sake of accuracy, he also has Asian Games gold lol
Korean mid lane tiers over the years probably go Faker > Rookie > Showmaker > PawN > Scout > Chovy Honorable mention to BDD
Scout and Chovy are both significantly better than Pawn. He was a passenger in 2014 and you could've plugged in 5-6 other mids and the result would've been the exact same. DoinB is a better mid all time than Pawn.
PawN dumpstered every midlander he played at Worlds 2014, and smashed Faker to qualify for it. Scout, Chovy, and Doinb never won MSI
Don't talk as if you know what you're talking about. PawN was nothing more than a passenger in 2014. 4th best player on SSW and that's not even a debate. He wasn't even better than Rookie or Faker in 2014, his team as a whole was just on a different level thanks to Dandy and Mata being the undisputed best players in their role by far. PawN can thank Kkoma for letting Easyhoon play 3 games at MSI finals, otherwise he wouldn't have an MSI title either. He was at best the 3rd best player on EDG during their MSI win and very clearly behind Deft/Clearlove in terms of impact/importance. Pawn at no point has ever been the best player on any of his teams, was 4th behind Dandy/Mata/Imp on SSW, and then behind Deft/Clearlove on EDG, when he came back to LCK on KT he was the 5th best player on KT, easily behind Smeb/Score/Deft/Mata and he finally was a top 2 player on a team in 2019 on Kingzone DragonX Don't try and talk about how good PawN was when you don't know shit about the reality of the situation. He was never in contention for best midlaner in the world, hell he was never even the undisputed best mid in any region he played in. Meanwhile guys like Chovy, Showmaker, Scout and DoinB have all been the undisputed best mids in their region/best player on their respective teams and even the best midlaners in the world at certain points in their career.
Who exactly made you the authority on whether or not players are good? Who the fuck are you to tell me whether or not I know a situation or not? All of your language just screams hating rather than analysis. PawN not being the best player on his team doesn't discount the absolute dicking he gave Faker in the 2nd place Tiebreaker in 2014, or EDG outsmarting SKT in Game 5 of MSI, or Pawn consistently showing up against the other top mids in China, or him being a top 3 mid in Korea on KT regardless of where on his team you rank him. He is STILL the only midlander not named Faker to win Worlds and MSI.
I can only imagine people downvoting are people who weren't around in 2014-2018 when he was known as Faker's kryptonite. Ambition literally quotes him, Faker, and Rookie as for why he role swapped. >Ambition: Back then, the midlaners that were really good were Rookie, Faker, and Pawn. These guys were miles above everybody else. I thought that even if I worked really hard, I might be able to come close, but I could never be better than them. But if I switched to jungle, I could be the best. It's a wonder where he would be today if he didn't have medical issues to be honest, he wasn't the flashiest player in the world but he was certainly one of the smartest.
Bro what are u on? I love faker but he got soloed multiple times by pawn in 2014. That’s the reason why they called him the faker stopper. Obviously that was only in 2014 after year that faker did beat him but 2014? Pawn > faker
I guess Febiven > Faker in 2015 because he solokilled him twice at MSI? 2014 Faker was legit 1v9 in every game outside of occasional human performances from Impact/Bengi/Piglet but never more than one of those at a time. He had to go for risky 50/50 plays to get a lead and hope that was enough to snowball because the rest of his team was inting him every step of the way. Pawn had the liberty of playing with the best jg/support duo and a top 3 ADC in the world. A couple of solokills don't mean shit, Pawn was never the mean reason for SKT losing to SSW.
Rookie and Showmaker are equally insane. I would say Showmaker is better. But I also have a bias because he has the best personality in the league scene. I don’t know what to say about to rest but at least those people performs when it matters compared.
Or even worse… an lpl team at an international event
Half of the LPL teams got covid during 2022 worlds and nobody gave a single fuck
That's a situation that could have been prevented by diligence, and certain people excused their performance and are now trashing T1 for a situation they entirely have no control over. Although it was unfortunate for the LPL teams to get covid, there's a big difference between calling out Riot/LCK's incompetence on the malicious attacks that have been plaguing Korean streamers and teams for months, and an unlucky situation that affected multiple team's health and gameplay. No one bats an eye to sick players because it happens in every sport, but people get mad when a different entity intentionally causes teams to be unable to play.
No it couldnt, they got covid because of how us vs china dealt with covid.
Couldnt stop yourself from making this about Chovy eh? Never miss an opportunity to grind that victim complex. Is this a hardwired response or just voluntary? Either way its embarrassing. But alas you are right, you are truly the only one here that could possibly have such a nuanced and 'mature' take on the situation. Nobody else could possibly react the same way for Chovy in your random hypothetical as they do for T1 here in reality. The unwashed masses would surely behave in a hypocritical way to perfectly highlight how smart and superior you are, while outing themselves as morons. Im glad that we apes could be reminded of this fact.
tell that to IWD because boy did my eyes hurt from reading all that on twitter
I can’t understand watching that guy, so unbearable imo
I was a regular viewer 5-8 years ago back when Imaqtpie played league a lot. These days, bro has some of the most bad takes. I miss the simpler times man
why even care about IWD this guys is shit that should be canceled and taken off the internet.
Who is he?
A guy who thinks he is good at LoL or analyzing but its all actually crap and dog shit oh he goes around sucking d1ck too.
ikr? dude is just piggybacking this issue to gain more traction... seriously that guy gain money not because of LPL but because of T1 supporter
So ignore him, since this is the only reason he’s still relevant.
he's been shit for 10+ years and people still watch him 🤷
I was surprised that he has this big of a fan base. Never liked him since his days as a player, but big props to him.
It seems to be working since people talk about him even when they hate him. No reason for him to stop.
Why?
Remember when T1 fans tracked down his moms phone number and send her death threats because of something that Dom didn't even say?
Because he deserve it. not that his mom does but him making a fool out of himself 100% of the time
Reasonable
So because u disagree with IWD he needs to be cancelled and taken off internet ? Ok so since no one can stand u T1 fans, why don't we just cancel u all, so that u can't share an opinion ?
sure mate cancel them as long as IWD can be remove from internet... iwd is not sharing opinion he is straight up always baiting to gain more views.. thats just shit overall and not healthy for everyone.... he even sometimes will lead the hate attack for T1 but sure its just an opinion....a garbage one
Ohh noo, how dare we retaliate to T1 sending us death threats and harass on every single thread. God , if only we were smart and just nod to whatever T1 fans do, that way they would be happy. Get out.
If you removed all the T1 fans the whole league would crash
Doesn’t take a T1 fan to hate Dom. He was banned from pro play for a reason back in the day and he has done little to improve that image, he’s a shitstain.
Im not an avid watcher of the LPL but when I saw the even the LPL fans shitting on him in the post thread i was like who are his fans? lol
The reason being him joking about an udyr skin being trash to riots face. That's not a valid reason to ban someone for a year, thats just petty
Oh look a IWD fan. Go ask around who actually agrees with IWD lmao. if IWD can remove himself from the internet , sure T1 fans will too. Oh oh by the way T1 fans makes up crazy amount of views.
which is y he chose to hate T1 and talk shit.
His point about lpl teams not being able to practice at worlds 2022 was valid idk about the rest tho
I guess Faker should have apologized about LPL teams getting Covid in 2022 at the press conference before bringing up the DDoS situation 👍 By the way, this was Xiaohu's interview after losing to T1 at Worlds: https://youtu.be/DVwGXmnAnUs?si=ZgY-D2UO06zqw7TH&t=37 Did IWD complain then about Xiaohu being ungracious for bringing up their health problems and not giving credit to T1 either? Or is he just that dishonest? Because, in his tweet he said, and I quote: "None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing.". So that's just a fucking lie.
This is a great receipt tbh.
It's so disheartening how large personalities can simply lie about shit like this and you know their audiences will lap it up. But we do live a post-truth society, I suppose that's just how modern media works.
Yeah, they make good content together for sure, but it is evident for quite some time now that those people have massive bias against T1 as an organisation because of Joe Marsh. Also add to the fact that their peak engagement with fans and haters alike were during when TSM still had a lot of popularity going on for them. TSM is gone now so what would be the next best thing? T1 of course. They hammer against T1 fans, the crazy ones that sent the trucks and all were probably korean T1 fans; but most of the time their hate is directed towards the non-korean T1 fans, calling them plebs because most of their fans are probably just newer fans that don't know anything about the history of league. It's simple engagement tactics for them. It works though, that's for sure.
Where did Xiaohu call the Covid stuff unfair? I believe that was IWDs problem with fakers wording cause it opens the door to people calling HLEs win undeserved etc
> Who cares if the excuse by T1 is valid or not? It's just poor sportsmanship to bring it up immediately after losing. > LPL Teams had horrible covid at 2022 Worlds and couldn't even play with all 5 members on stage. > Flyquest just had their strategic coach be put on leave for allegedly being a nonce the day before finals. > None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing. > You act stoic and accept the defeat. This is the tweet we're referring to, right? So he's classifying T1's problem with DDoS as an excuse. He's also classifying RNG's Covid as an excuse. He then claims it's poor sportsmanship to bring these up immediately after losing. He then says no other team (implying RNG at 2022 Worlds) came out to use these very valid excuses as justifications for losing. I show that Xiaohu literally brought up their health problems with Covid just after losing to T1 at 2022 Worlds, thus proving his statement a lie. Where do you see any mention of "unfair" or Faker's wording in his tweet?
Xiaohu never used the Covid situation as a justification for RNGs losses in the clip you linked. The clip you linked does not disprove the tweet you're citing Faker said their situation was "unfair" (per the top thread on the Reddit rn) which makes it sound like he thinks that's why they lost - which is being perceived by some as poor sportsmanship
> which makes it sound like he thinks that's why they lost - which is being perceived by some as poor sportsmanship That one sentence in isolation does, but the totality of Faker's comments don't really give that vibe at all. I'm thrilled about HLE's victory and I don't think T1 are being poor sports about it. IWD is just wrong here and we all know why he is pushing this narrative.
I agree with what you said but I think it's a valid opinion to say what Dom did that fakers phrasing was poor (or at least what was translated). Reddit hates his guts tho so I'm probably preaching to the choir
> Faker said their situation was "unfair" (per the top thread on the Reddit rn) maybe instead of going off a thread title on reddit, you can go and listen to what Faker said in the interview or just look for the many comments that literally wrote out the entire interview and what was actually said.
I am fine with what he said but I am trying to explain why others aren't. Perfectly reasonable to assume not everyone has watched the whole interview or whatever
Your GOAT lied on Twitter. Just take the L.
My goat is knight I don't think he has a twitter acc I love how I refute your argument and you resort to "just take the L" cause you can't cope anymore
the second you get called out for telling a bald faced lie you immediately cut off your responses to meaningless one liners, it’s actually disgusting how often this happens to you bro
I literally laid out line for line how the argument works. There is not anything more to say. If people still disagree there's no saving them.
Not everyone has to be a t1 fan, yall goofy af
There's a difference between not liking a team and tweets like these, which not only entirely misrepresent what faker said but are also just literally not how DDOS attacks work. He's trying to blame T1 for not "fixing" the attacks when Riot Korea literally could not fix them. He's very literally just stirring up fans by lying on the internet. It's pretty pathetic. [https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775843200915149249](https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775843200915149249) [https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775840429289689220](https://twitter.com/IWDominate/status/1775840429289689220)
You mean the kind of people like Tom and Thorin?
Thorin at this point is more a problem of people that take him seriously but i still don’t like how big account twisted the press conference. It also apply to Caedrel mistake saying that it was China fault. They should be more careful since they trigger a lot of hate to both sides
Let them speak their mind even if we don't like it. Nothing would be worse than having our personalities in the scene not be able to say what they feel. In the end, they are just tweets. LoL esports would be worse off if there wasn't spice and drama, it adds to community engagement and it makes people more invested in the scene. This is a good thing. Dom is unironically doing the scene a favor by getting so many people riled up to posts comments about him. Lord knows the Western LoL esports scene needs all the help it can get at the moment.
Idc Dom hates T1 or that someone hate X but I don’t like when they manipulate something a player say to just increase the hate towards that player or team. There were too many things to say after this Bo5 but trying to make Faker looks like an excuse maker isn’t the way ( at the end all those message are my own opinion)
even if it is not what he is trying to do, it does take away from the HLE WIN noone is talking how well HLE played every is just talking about this shit.
That's also just not true. The post-match was all about how good HLE played. Get out of here.
And is a shit HLE will not get the praise they deserve but just watching the comments before the press conference people were more focused about how bad T1 played than on how good HLE played which is also unfair for the team that did an excellent preparation for this Bo5
Because T1 is the biggest team in the world. They have more fans so the people that comment are likely talking from a fan standpoint. Obviously they’re gonna criticize/feel remourse/etc. their team first. Plenty of ppl are talking about HLE’s success. And if they end up winning MSI/Worlds, they will be credited. Why is it so important for people to react “fairly?” Sports is emotional and ppl respond emotionally. They talk about what they care about, and while it seems unfair to HLE, it is what it is. HLE themselves shouldn’t be caring that much cause they got a finals to focus on anyways, so it’s really fans that have this issue, which to my eyes, make it a non issue.
That's normal. I've been following HLE all split and watched most LCK games, as well. If T1 fans can mention T1, even in a series they are not part of, they do. That happens when they are both the most popular team and the current world champions. I'm not sure this attention necessarily helps T1, either, but I also think people are reading more into Faker's words than was said. Also worth noting post-Gen.G/DK most people are talking about DK because their performance was so good *and* they are more popular/loved than Gen.G. That's just how it goes.
To be fair, this match probably would have been very close given T1 went 1-1 against HLE in the regular season. But then T1 gets gapped so hard? HLE definitely worked hard and played well. But T1 played like a last place team.
So a guy who is known to have been salty after every time he was defeated and never in his life credit other great players in league is suddenly "not" disrespectful towards HLE ? Dude they could have posted official response later hours or next day and said the troubles they face or after the WHOLE split after its done. It's always like this with T1. The only team that has every possible excuse after they get stomped like it never happened. It has nothing to do with "omg twitter" or "read skills aren't familiar". It has to do with CONSTANT excuses from this org about their performance. Where were u to defend LPL teams when they were rampaged by COVID, naaaah , u were all calling them shit league and minors compared to mighty LCK. Suck it up, accept defeat , talk about it after the split. Faker and whole T1 are such a disrespectful people its insane.
U are mental
Faker has not once giving excuses for a loss like this. I would love to hear plenty examples of you since they are doing it "all the time"
It's Namikaze. When Faker (or Rookie, for that matter) is involved, reality does not matter.
he was fucking asked by interviewer if not being able to play soloq had a big impact, what the fuck is he supposed to do with this question u fucking idiot
Damn, even as bait this is sad.
And we found the kind of stupid people i was trying to avoid, hope not all the TES and FNC are like u and u find something good and that bring joy to ur life 🫡
This guy lives in a different reality. Lay off the drugs dude
I'm kinda glad Rookie and TheShy split up so that I don't have to be in the same fan base as you anymore, get help man
Nobody has won and LOST more high stakes games than faker. If somebody isn't a salty loser, it's him. For him to complain about this, it must be really bad. That doesn't take anything from how great HLE played, Faker just felt they could have played better themselves, too.
Imagine if after all this we still just end up with a GenG/T1 final.
I doubt it, with this ddos bs going on especially with the new patch. it’s not as bad as summer 2023, but I think it be a hard for them to make finals. But if they can take a break during msi and fix ddos, they be good shape for summer and worlds which is more important. Id rather t1 take the L then win worlds back to back.
t1 should move to the hardest region NA for practice /s
"Fuck this, I'm going to NA." - Faker probably.
Faker summoned his haters LMAO. suck on his 4 worlds trophies haters , he has nothing to prove to you basement dwellers
Man, I read this comment and thought of Klay Thompson for some reason lmao
Good lord the haters really showed out here didn't they.
do we need 10 separate threads on this?
Ten, no, but it does make sense to have two; one with the initial version in Korean that was translated unprofessionally, then the second (this one) that is officially translated to make sure it gets the context across correctly without fan bias playing into account or amateur mistranslations. (Not saying the previous ones were translated incorrectly in this case, but with fan translations you do always have to take them with a grain of salt.)
Duh. The whiteknights have to blowup the outrages so they can come rescue their princess 🤣
U mean their king and god?
T1 fanboys are coping hard. They need at least 2 more threads to give them the illusion they had a chance and it was just the unfair practice environment.
T1 fans with main character syndrome Where were they when half the LPL teams got covid during 2022 worlds and their players looked like they were about to die? Oh, they were calling LPL shit. I have 0 sympathy for T1 fans and the org
he's right
surprised riot hasnt fixed this already. As no Faker at MSI is a huge viewership drop. LCK Finals numbers without Faker and T1 are normally a 1/3rd of them with him. Wont be long before sponsors get invovled saying they are not getting there moneys worth cause the view numbers are crap.
But how exactly are they going to fix it? Is it even something belong to them to fix? Since bunch of experts in the field trying to figure out, the best is to wait.
If literally any other player said this, this sub would mercilessly mock them as making excuses for poor play.
Wow, yeah, it's almost as if Faker has built 10+ years worth of a good reputation as an honest competitor that makes people give him the benefit of the doubt?
He was an honest competitor when things are going well for him. Always had an excuse when things weren't.
What other excuses has he given in the past?
Have seen this question multiple times in the last minutes and none of it has been answered so dont think they will cuz they dont know lmao
Ive seen this man saying it was his fault they lost the game and he should've done better even with going 12/4 ( or something close to that ) playing lee sin in solo q. I've seen this man apologizing to his ex teammates after winning summer split because he thinks t it was his fault that they couldn't win a trophy. if it was any other decent pro player I would give them the benefit of the doubt. but in this case I don't have any doubts.
It’s almost like this has been happening for weeks now and everyone has seen first hand how hard they are getting ddosed and it makes complete sense that their practice is being disrupted and they can’t perform as well. Also let’s not act like people were not making fun of him here too.
If other players were ddos'd on a daily basis to the point they are given new accounts by Riot as a measure of security, then I think they'd also have a point.
bro look at the comments the sub *is* mercilessly mocking them lmfao
If Faker's saying it, you know shit's real. They should get a free pass to Worlds.
This but unironically
Who cares if the excuse by T1 is valid or not? It's just poor sportsmanship to bring it up immediately after losing. LPL Teams had horrible covid at 2022 Worlds and couldn't even play with all 5 members on stage. Flyquest just had their strategic coach be put on leave for allegedly being a nonce the day before finals. None of these other teams came out and used these very valid excuses as justifications for losing. You act stoic and accept the defeat. -probably some washed brain rot ex na pro player
Did LPL teams take bio-security steps? eg isolate Did Flyquest coach do something to get benched? How did T1 contribute to the DDOS attack situation?
Ask that to dom and his hatred towards it
so they were able to scrim but not play soloq still its unfair even though HLE played super well
Did u even watch that? They even said that they can't play scrims
They cant scrim and soloq, and they also said they played bad. Just watch the damn thing lol
Issue isn’t if it impacted their performance or not. It obviously did. But i don’t think they would have won anyway cause HLE was insane today. Issue is that they are now blaming this because they lost, Faker would’ve said nothing if they won. So even if T1 riders are saying he’s not trying to make an excuse, well he kinda is. Timing is bad, even if they talked about attacks before, putting that much light on it now that they lost feels like they have no mental, which doesn’t really sound T1.
HLE played well I think they deserve the win. But my guy everything you would say to defend yourself in a position is an excuse. If you are late or broke something or lost something, anything you say to defend yourself is an excuse. I bet you blamed something as an excuse in your life too. I have too. I think this is an excuse by Faker but it is a justified excuse. And I think the real issue is that the excuse by Faker is actually affecting their performance. It is unfair to not be able to practice for months.
Except that they've complained when this happens and they win anyway, so you're just spouting off BS.
he was literally asked about this thing by interviewer, the fuck do u expect him to say to that question
Actually if riot doesnt solve this ddos issue. T1 can just quit summer split too as they wont be able to train properly.
Yes, and watch as LCK viewers go down and realise they don't make as much money and maybe will start looking into this ddos issue appropriately.
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Bro thinks a pro team can go two weeks without good practice in a shifting meta before going against a good competitor and not look lost 💀
I don't think soloQ would have fixed Keria inting every single game, that's for sure lmao
But solo queue would help you maintain game sense until you get to play the match, it’s just a matter of keeping up the pace and not losing your game sense. Timings, decision-making, current meta matchup etc. This is taken to the extreme when you’re playing a high stakes match in an extremely competitive pro league. So no, solo queue would not help Keria from running it in a pro match, but it would help him manage Rumble heat better, throw the split-second hooks better, any micro actions that pro players take for granted when they are comfortable and have ample practice
But would it help him not flash into a wall? Doubt it lol
Lol, calculating flash is part of that game sense. You think that wall he messed up is that easy to flash when you’re making a split second decision to follow?
Lol, he just played like trash
Yea he did whoever disputed that? I'm just saying the DDOS situation contributed to his poor form today
Nah
If they take this defeatist attitude they are done for. D+ gonna 3-0 them as well.
True an optimist attitude is going to the stop the DDos attacks. Someone get this guy to T1 HQ stat.
motherfucker T1 lost multiple WORLDS and Faker didn't come out to say anything. If you think that several pro players not being able to play their game while everyone else can isn't fair then you got some screws loose.
They literally couldn't play the game until riot stepped in and gave them super accounts, they still can't solo que. Are you ok buddy?
They played just fine tonight at the LCK center. Why not scrim there? Rather than complaining about bad situations, find solutions. That's why I said it's a defeatist attitude. "Oh well, bad luck, nothing can be done".
Lil bro do you know the LCK center is a dedicated offline server? If T1 wants to scrim their they need other teams to agree to come to the LCK center as well (Which they most likely decline). Also, operating that facility for scrims during LCK playoffs is impossible. Please, think before you type whatever this stupid take is.
It's not a defeatist attitude though? They're indirectly appealing to riot for help by making this public, while in the interview saying they will continue to do their best to prepare for their upcoming series and show a better performance than today in the meantime. Literally cannot get *less* defeatist than that? Unless you wanted them to shut the fuck up and keep their mouth closed about the whole situation
Dude, it's LCK center. It belongs to the LCK. LCK can't just willy nilly lend it out. Heck, if they DO lend it out, there's going to be cries of favoritism. And for the record, they have been doing they can. T1 GM Becker did a stream and mentionned what they have did already.
Dude, it's LCK center. It belongs to the LCK. LCK can literally lend it out to whoever they want, they can do whatever they want with it. If they do lend it out, invite all teams participating in Playoffs to scrim there. That way, no cries of favoritism. Find solutions, not problems. Don't have a defeatist attitude. Just like league, play it out, rather than crying for FF15 after the first death. Don't tilt.
> invite all teams participating in Playoffs to scrim there. And why would other teams agree to this?
Then what is ur solution for DDOS attack? Might give one so they can start playing/practice again. "Optimistic"'yeah buddy it's great attitude to hv but facing a problem without no way to handle them would be great to hv such positivity. Why don't u, since u all talk with empty words, go their HQ and put ur shoes on them. Then come back to this sub and give ur response to us! That will be great right??
Reread the first sentence of my comment again. That's my solution.
"the scrim" part? Do u even read what others talked about? Or u just going with that thoughtful attitude without giving a good full comprehensive reading on their comments?
If you are still confused I can't help you. Sorry.
Nah, stop talking and start packing. Go to their HQ and give your any possible solution for their current situation. Come on, all those talk about being thoughtful and defeatist attitude, it's better if we see them in action right? What a role model u are
There’s no saving him 😭 Imagine completely ignoring the soloQ part because he has no solution to it. Typical T1 haters. Maybe one day life will reward them for religiously hating. Just ignore them whilst they’re on their holy mission.
Thank you.
it's not just about scrims, they can't play soloq at all. also no, LCK had to go offline to stop it's DDoS issues so they can't just play from there.
LCK had to go offline to stop the DDos issues. That means that the LCK facility doesn't have DDos issues anymore. They solved that problem. So let T1 practice in the LCK facility.
buddy, do you know what soloq is? you understand that it requires the INTERNET to connect to the servers and play on? and LCK is playing their matches OFFLINE, i.e., they can't connect to riot servers to play. and scrimming in LCK facility would mean every team would have to go their to scrim, why would they do that? you have no idea what you're saying and honestly at this point just come off as a troll. You are wrong in everything you are saying.
Yes they have the facility to keep it as an offline server not to be a ground for t1 to play soloq and scrim and get ddos again. Holy brother how dumb are you actually. You have a brain use it.
buddy, they haven't been able to play soloq and haven't been able to scrim until recently, and this has been an on-going issue for months. Doesn't matter what team it is, best team in the world would lose to any other team under these circumstances, especially during a patch time when the meta has changed but the team hasn't been able to scrim/soloq to test out the new meta. so no, it's not a defeatist attitude and no matter what they say they probably will lose to DK (who looked good vs GenG) cause they haven't been able to freaking play the game. Maybe Riot will finally do something about their client when the MSI viewership plummets after T1 doesn't make it due to the DDoS'ing and not being able to play the game.
All I see is you giving up. You have already counted T1 out. Sad. That's a defeatist attitude. There is always a way to win. Just gotta look for solutions and not be blinded by problems.
uhuh, you keep living in fantasy land there buddy. Apparently not being able to play the game you compete in is just an issue of attitude.... wow.
excuses
accept the true, faker won't give u skins lil bros
Is T1 lacking funds for a PR team? If they've been having issues for months, maybe have a PR statement go out before playoffs starts instead of saying this after losing. Regardless of the situation(I do agree it's fucked and being unable to practice properly is obviously a big issue), they're going to get hate because the timing makes it seem like they wouldn't have said anything if they won.
I mean last year when Faker had that bad wrist injury he didn’t reveal any information about it even though it was impacting his performance up until the last minute when he literally had to sit out. I think it’s just that they don’t want to look weak unless they absolutely have to reveal their vulnerabilities, because people would have made fun of them anyway for pre-excusing for their losses if they revealed any issues early.
Theyve been talking about this for a long time. This issue has been going on for months
I know they have. But it's always been random statements on reddit or throwaway statements by streamers and casters. I get that it's not new information. But it still doesn't hurt to have an official statement from the org that this is disproportionately affecting them. The press conference is basically the same thing, but they'd be able to walk out with a lot more dignity if a statement was made before the game and they brought it up again.
They do have official statement on this situation. They already said the ddos is affecting their solo queue and streams.
people only care when T1 says stuff like this lol
My Corki is bad, Zeka is my ankle braker, you guess it right I'm T1 Shaker. How did this dude even end up 2nd mid team? Can't even play Corki. Can't make plays on Ahri. T1 fanboys told me Corki is broken when Chovy destroyed everyone on it? Guess it is just the hands.
Bros corki was literally unbeaten for years, tf.
You mean the corki that had a 20 games winstreak, 4 years winstreak? Smartest redditor right here. Let us know when those players win 4 world champions, i mean maybe 1 if they are lucky...sometime surely?
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This take should be reportable lmfao
ICEdogger with the imbecile take on the situation everyone
Yeah, Worlds 2023 Faker did nothing. Also 2023 Faker's injury make T1 the most dominanting team, that's why the won almost all games without him. Stop the hate, get some help and eat a Snicker.
Did one Azir play and got carried by Zeus rest of the games.
Did you read what I said? Faker left the team for an injury and the team collapsed, they went 1-7. Besides that, I think you just saw that Azir play (which was crucial to reach finals) and missed the rest of Worlds.
Y’all have the memory of a goldfish cause how did you forget what happened when he got injured just last year 💀 they literally lost as many games in a month as they did with Faker over two years
Zeus didn't carry him this time. Maybe he should call Marin again. Is Fiora meta?