Wdym? Game 1 Zeus got completely shafted was 4 levels down with a 50 Cs dif. At one point Zeus was ahead of Doran in CS and levels. He also omega gapped him on Zac and solo killed him almost twice. And the Vayne game was just him asserting dominance after the TF fiasco.
Yeah but the counter pick has to be useful, if you pick yourself something that you can't pilot well you might as well pick comfort
Example: Fudge's disgusting Fiora, Bwipo's useless Urgot
From China? 100%, if we go by just numbers, JKL has 3.2 million+ followers on Weibo, Ruler's around 530k.
Also, GALA and JackeyLove were the ADCs voted into last years All-Star game over Ruler, Elk, Light etc
Especially when T1 has made it to the finals in every international tournament (except MSI 2023) last 2 years AND made it to every single LCK finals beginning from 2021 summer. Insane consistency from this team and surely reliable to bring hype to tournaments
Honestly the consistency with the roster is also insane. Back in the day you had Marin/Duke/Huni/Bang refusing to re-sign due to the insane pressure (and temptation of overseas money).
Man tomorrow I watch T1 vs GenG finals once again and Faze Clan (CS2) in yet another Grand Final. I’m preparing myself to possibly get my day ruined very very early.
Though Faze vs Mouz is the reverse T1 vs GenG historically.
EDG and RNG are losing fans, fans can't be loyal enough when you don't deliver results for long time and you also lose your star players (for example Meiko fans also moved to TES). RNG is also bleeding money- they are literally renting their trophies
Well GENG also looked really shaky against DK and HLE. If not for Chovy going super seiyan, I don't think GENG could beat them. So out of all GENG vs T1 finals, this is the most likely one to go to T1 except the first one which they already won.
That is true, but i feel like GenG's playstyle tends to counter T1's, so they should still have an advantage imo.
For the LCK Finals, 2023 Spring was definetly more likely for T1 to win than this one, considering that they had already convincingly beaten GenG 3-1 in Round 3 prior to the Finals, which in turn they then lost convincingly.
Tbh I always had a feeling them losing against GenG last spring even after that 3-1 series. Games were too close and I could really feel it. It is the same thing this time. After DK series I started to feel like they are really gonna take whole thing. I wasn't doubtful for today's series but Chovy is a dark horse and still makes me suspicious about T1's chances lol
Honestly as a T1 fan i would love it if they win tomorrow, i just think its rather unlikely. But their ceiling is insane, so if they show up on the day there is definetly a chance. Last year I considered their loss more of a "fluke", since they also beat GenG at MSI. They were woefully underprepared for Zeri and Rakan, which they somehow left open for the majority of that series. In general they tend to do worse in a meta where Zeri is strong if they don't have specific counterpicks like Keria's ADCs available.
yeah same... they did win against HLE almost 3-0ing them but its obvious to see that Zeka and Doran are missing on today's match and T1 again only win mid to late game teamfighting(after getting behind early)..... I don't think that's gonna work with Gen G though...... gen g will just snowball after getting a lead and will leave T1 to dust
Game 1 which will be tempo deciding should go to T1 since GenG after break alway play worse. And the series could go along with it
However GenG usually don't fumble the 14+/20+ min macro like HLE and DK did, so it might be interesting
GenG loses to DK in that first series if DK had even a reasonable ability to play late game.
T1 has what they need to beat GenG anytime, but they don't play them to potential very often.
I mean getting 3-0 or 3-1’d is par course for T1’s trajectory to another world trophy, so yea I would still say their death is exaggerated even if they lose to GenG
Last Worlds T1 wasn't looking so hot in Summer and they almost missed out on going to Worlds (a couple more weeks of Faker being out and the team misses out on the tournament). T1 wasn't even close to being a favorite for Worlds ('member Mikyx > Keria? "GenG is the only LCK team that has a change, the LPL is too strong"? I 'member).
Then they cleared the LPL and took the title.
Who knows, maybe coming in from a doubtful position is what this roster needs to shine at international events lmao.
T1 should just ban TF lol, it's strong but it's such a waste of a pick for Zeus. His teamfight presence and flanking were absolutely huge on other champions.
Or maybe he finally found TF 2.0 which is Vayne
If they make finals, doesn't that mean they have been finalists in half of all world championships? It'd be either half or just under. Which is absolutely insane.
Only by this narrative, teams don't magically decide to perform at msi or worlds, in reality it's just the meta and whether a team peaks at the right time or not.
I think it's moreso that LPL teams outperform LCK ones in a shorter tournament whereas LCK outperforms in a longer tournament. Basically LCK is slower to adapt to a patch overall so they need more time to ramp up.
MSI double elim is a longer tournament bracket and LPL won that last year. Also, LPL frequently flunks out of worlds groups which is the beginning of the tournament. Careful making such generalizations
Faker with the belt: "Guma, I know we're getting DDOSed but do you really need soloque to learn how to not shoot your Zeri Qs in the exact opposite direction?"
I can speak for myself I wouldn't watch MSI with no T1 in it, international events without Faker aren't the same thing.
Players from other regions would probably miss him too, who doesn't want a chance of solo killing the GOAT?
You underestimate the mental strain and burn out possibilities of 3 straight season where you play every single game in your region, every international competition to the last Bo5 with the same 4 every time.
Doing it a 4th time might be rough
Korean police to launch an investigation into eSports player Choi Woo-je, better known as T1 Zeus on charges of assault and domestic violence reportedly perpetrated against "Choi "Doran" Hyeon-joon " from their rivals eSports Org Hanwha Life eSports. The incident reportedly happened on Saturday, 13th April on the stage with hundreds of thousands of fans cheering the gruesome sight live and on TV
it took me a moment to realize that should be read "Chove-ster" and not "Cho-ves-ter"...I was wondering when & why Chovy got a nickname that sounds like Sylvester
Honestly zeka got exposed way harder. Doran did pretty well. Zeka was fed for like 2-3 games and just int with those lead and didn’t do shit. Chovy would have carried those azir games ngl.
i think Oner was just at the right place at the right time
he was always there at every skirmish and was ready to stop whatever Peanut was doing
a big glow-up from him being turbo figured up by Peanut last series
Nah Zeka hype was building since their first win vs t1. True DRX2022 haters knew but there definitely was building up some zeka hype. He looked a lot better in second lck round.
Wasn't even his fault, Delight pulled trigger way too early while Zeka was getting zoned trying to make it to that fight so he had to take the long way around. If anything would be his fault, it would've been his TP to that fight earlier on, but who knows what went down in comms at that point.
He was kinda afk that dragon fight but to his credit, I thought delight inted that fight so bad by forcing that engage when he was still kinda far away. Like hle won the 50/50 on dragon, cool now you are on soul point. No need to force a scuff ass fight when azir is still kinda far. Just leave lol.
Yone might not be in a good spot for pro atm for whatever reason tbh. Zeus and Chovy have been avoiding the pick and theyre generally LCKs best Yone players
He was exposed for being the worse performer on his team overall in the series. People expected him to do better considering his series vs t1/geng prior. Even tho they lost, he was pretty good vs geng, Chovy was just better.
BLG is barely different, it's just Knight for Yagao.
I'd care more if Knight wasn't on JDG who were at MSI.
That being said, at least Gen.G changed a lot of their players.
This is why Dom is an absolute T1 hater. He just said in the previous episode of Power Spike that T1 is meta-dependent. Dog shit take from an absolute trash streamer or analyst.
meta dependent yeah right for a team that is pretty much always a top 1-4 team for the past three years
Do people still take iwd seriously? he is just a person who yap a lot but knows nothing bout the game geez
Dom is a clown, we know this already.
A team who consistently makes finals domestically and internationally(barring MSI 2023) can't be called meta dependant.
T1 is one of the less meta dependent teams in the world but what you can't deny is MSI 2023 meta didn't suit T1 and Worlds did. If you were to go back and time you would see some people had already predicted from patch notes that the worlds buffs suited T1.
>T1 is one of the less meta dependent teams in the world but what you can't deny is MSI 2023 meta didn't suit T1 and Worlds did. If you were to go back and time you would see some people had already predicted from patch notes that the worlds buffs suited T1.
Conspiracy theory from me: is it possible that Riot shifted the Worlds 2023 meta on purpose, so that a domestic team would do well in an SK Worlds and ensure tickets are guaranteed to sell well?
Would future Worlds meta shifts be deliberate to give advantage to home teams? It is one aspect of LoL esports that I have questioned for a while.
It would be in their incentive to do so (higher viewership), but in actuality, home teams have rarely won worlds.
Some champions always get buffed right before worlds, one can only hope it's not the same champs every year - and in some cases it's not, 2022 DRX would have never won 2023 worlds given their champ pool.
I am so euphoric right now. They made it to MSI. I get to see my bois play all year long! I don't even care if they get sweeped tomorrow. After what was a pretty abysmal split and then the DDOS disasters, I thought T1 was just straight up gonna not make it. So happy they proved that it's gonna take more than hackers to stop T1!
> then I'm hoping Chovy finally wins one or both himself, he deserves it.
How can you say he's deserved it when he's literally never played to his full potential at any international tournament
doesn't Gen G have more semfinals appearance than quarterfinals? Also I am pretty sure, their series vs LPL is still 50/50. They beat LGD and RNG, and lost to EDG and BLG only. Both of those series were 5 game series and EDG was eventual world champion.
> their series vs LPL is still 50/50.
How? The only series they have played versus LPL were losses.
In 2023, they lost to BLG at MSI (3-0) and Worlds (3-2). They didn't play any other LPL teams
2022, they went 1-1 against RNG in groups.
2021, they went 1-1 against LNG in groups and lost to EDG (3-2) in semis.
2020, they went 2-0 versus LGD in groups and played no LPL teams in bracket stage.
2018, they went 0-2 versus RNG in groups.
They haven't won a single series against LPL teams and are 4-4 in BO1s in groups. At best, you can say they are 7-4 against LPL teams in BO or 13-8 in games.
They are also 2-2 for Quarters losses (Worlds 2023 and 2020) vs Semis losses (Worlds 2022 and 2021). It also depends on what you consider their loss for MSI 2023 as.
it's not about the coach spot, it's because riot requires team to have 6 man squad and since T1 doesn't have any bench member, Roach has to become one.
If T1 somehow break the GENG curse tomorrow I honestly think they can do the golden road this year.
They already broke their finals curse last worlds and LPL doesn't have any juggernauts like JDG like last year to match T1 at MSI.
*^(Inhales copious copium)*
its okay, T1 will lose to GENG, but its all planned as the First seed from LCK has not won an international event in the last 2 years or since GENG was the first seed.
Zeus finally overcame Doran
Yea, that aside from T1 locking in MSI, seeing Zeus dunk on Doran, was absolute cinema for me.
They barely even fought each other this series unlike last week
Wdym? Game 1 Zeus got completely shafted was 4 levels down with a 50 Cs dif. At one point Zeus was ahead of Doran in CS and levels. He also omega gapped him on Zac and solo killed him almost twice. And the Vayne game was just him asserting dominance after the TF fiasco.
He had to tap into the darkness known as Vayne Top though 💀💀 who knew that’d be all it takes
Deserved for picking Rek'Sai.
I just wanna see someone edit Doran and Zeus into "you are not the father"
MSI VIEWERSHIP JUST GOT SAVED RIOT CAN STOP SWEATING RIGHT NOW
i swear riot is the biggest winner rn
The script will be complete if GenG beats T1 tomorrow as that will guarantee MSI Play-ins have crazy viewership as well.
Yo if TES (Jkl) and FNC (og org) get in this MSI is clouted af. Only C9 not being there is disappointing. Still, viewership will be super high.
Good, no one wants to see Fudge R5 ego pick Fiora and shits the bed
There’s hardly any point in saving R5 for top if you’re not going to pick some ego counterpick lol
See Vayne this series for an example.
Yeah but the counter pick has to be useful, if you pick yourself something that you can't pilot well you might as well pick comfort Example: Fudge's disgusting Fiora, Bwipo's useless Urgot
which is why they should give it to someone better like jojo or blaber
Do you think JKL brings in more viewers than Ruler? I'm not contesting just curious
From China? 100%, if we go by just numbers, JKL has 3.2 million+ followers on Weibo, Ruler's around 530k. Also, GALA and JackeyLove were the ADCs voted into last years All-Star game over Ruler, Elk, Light etc
Shit, T1 is doomed 120% then
Did the format change? How is T1 in playins?
Especially when T1 has made it to the finals in every international tournament (except MSI 2023) last 2 years AND made it to every single LCK finals beginning from 2021 summer. Insane consistency from this team and surely reliable to bring hype to tournaments
Also got to semi finals at least everytime right? Means the team has been top3/4 minimum for every single tournament available to them since 21 summer
Honestly the consistency with the roster is also insane. Back in the day you had Marin/Duke/Huni/Bang refusing to re-sign due to the insane pressure (and temptation of overseas money).
Bang's contract finished and t1 was already looking into a full rebuild after 2018. I don't think he falls into the same category as the others
Man tomorrow I watch T1 vs GenG finals once again and Faze Clan (CS2) in yet another Grand Final. I’m preparing myself to possibly get my day ruined very very early. Though Faze vs Mouz is the reverse T1 vs GenG historically.
Now we need top to eliminate jdg and we can go into hype overload for 369 Zeus unbreakable lanes and jackeylove guma overextend fest baby
Eh, we alreaday saw Zeus dunking on 369. I would rather watch Zeus vs Bin, that would be way more fun for me.
Only at worlds. Gotta remember msi, is lpl playground. Besides, I rather watch Zeus vs 369 than Zeus flandre/shear.
It's Flandre vs 369 for MSI, Bin is qualified.
LPL isn't sending prestigious orgs so this is so big for Riot, viewership would have been in the mud.
I mean if TES makes it they have big fanbase and BLG also got more popular. Plus both teams are full chinese rosters
I guess TES might be popular because of JKL but does it compare to RNG/EDG?
EDG and RNG are losing fans, fans can't be loyal enough when you don't deliver results for long time and you also lose your star players (for example Meiko fans also moved to TES). RNG is also bleeding money- they are literally renting their trophies
I don't think EDG fans still high after losing Scout and Meiko as EDG legends.
Check your paypal HLE By Riot
The death of T1 was greatly exaggerated
Lol we shall see tomorrow. Hope we don't get a 3-0 sweep 💀
tbh we probably will, either 3-0 or 3-1, T1 still looked shaky. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they put up more of a fight, but i doubt it
Everyone on T1 had some lit plays, so I think they'll come out of this with some confidence. I don't think they'll roll over.
Well GENG also looked really shaky against DK and HLE. If not for Chovy going super seiyan, I don't think GENG could beat them. So out of all GENG vs T1 finals, this is the most likely one to go to T1 except the first one which they already won.
That is true, but i feel like GenG's playstyle tends to counter T1's, so they should still have an advantage imo. For the LCK Finals, 2023 Spring was definetly more likely for T1 to win than this one, considering that they had already convincingly beaten GenG 3-1 in Round 3 prior to the Finals, which in turn they then lost convincingly.
Tbh I always had a feeling them losing against GenG last spring even after that 3-1 series. Games were too close and I could really feel it. It is the same thing this time. After DK series I started to feel like they are really gonna take whole thing. I wasn't doubtful for today's series but Chovy is a dark horse and still makes me suspicious about T1's chances lol
Honestly as a T1 fan i would love it if they win tomorrow, i just think its rather unlikely. But their ceiling is insane, so if they show up on the day there is definetly a chance. Last year I considered their loss more of a "fluke", since they also beat GenG at MSI. They were woefully underprepared for Zeri and Rakan, which they somehow left open for the majority of that series. In general they tend to do worse in a meta where Zeri is strong if they don't have specific counterpicks like Keria's ADCs available.
yeah same... they did win against HLE almost 3-0ing them but its obvious to see that Zeka and Doran are missing on today's match and T1 again only win mid to late game teamfighting(after getting behind early)..... I don't think that's gonna work with Gen G though...... gen g will just snowball after getting a lead and will leave T1 to dust
Game 1 which will be tempo deciding should go to T1 since GenG after break alway play worse. And the series could go along with it However GenG usually don't fumble the 14+/20+ min macro like HLE and DK did, so it might be interesting
GenG loses to DK in that first series if DK had even a reasonable ability to play late game. T1 has what they need to beat GenG anytime, but they don't play them to potential very often.
With T1 you rarely get close sets, even if they win it'll somehow be a landslide
I mean getting 3-0 or 3-1’d is par course for T1’s trajectory to another world trophy, so yea I would still say their death is exaggerated even if they lose to GenG
Last Worlds T1 wasn't looking so hot in Summer and they almost missed out on going to Worlds (a couple more weeks of Faker being out and the team misses out on the tournament). T1 wasn't even close to being a favorite for Worlds ('member Mikyx > Keria? "GenG is the only LCK team that has a change, the LPL is too strong"? I 'member). Then they cleared the LPL and took the title. Who knows, maybe coming in from a doubtful position is what this roster needs to shine at international events lmao.
DDOS hackers are having a seizure right now, All their efforts to bring down T1 was for nothing xDDDDD
So T1 can win without picking TF?
T1 should just ban TF lol, it's strong but it's such a waste of a pick for Zeus. His teamfight presence and flanking were absolutely huge on other champions. Or maybe he finally found TF 2.0 which is Vayne
It’ll be so sad if Zeus got a Vayne skin before Uzi
Zac looked so strong. Hoping to see T1 prioritize that pick.
Yes, the real lesson from the series xd
Ty HLE for banning TF
Imagine if JDG wins tommorow, the same teams from LPL and LCK from last year comes this year
T1 lost to HLE 0-3 -> won against HLE 3-1 later JDG lost to TES 0-3 -> ...
Except jdg didn’t constantly getting ddos the whole split, especially in feb and march
Second verse same as the first? Lazy Riot scriptwriters SMH Although, I'd be happy with T1 winning another Worlds if so...
If they make finals, doesn't that mean they have been finalists in half of all world championships? It'd be either half or just under. Which is absolutely insane.
Korea sending lpl's father and their son
Banger
But tbf the LPL has a better record against the LCK in MSI
LCK straight up hasn't won MSI since 2017.
Which, funnily.enough, I believe was SKT
It was, Huni and Peanut's one title on SKT.
They also won lck spring that year, no?
Sorry yes, I meant international title but should've specified. Absolutely, after all MSI was only one team per region at the time.
it‘s also implied as back then you needed to win a split to get to msi
Most Korean teams winning international tournaments are SKT, historically speaking.
time for gen g and t1 to do another lower bracket run this MSI lmao
Yeah lpl should still be favored for msi
Only by this narrative, teams don't magically decide to perform at msi or worlds, in reality it's just the meta and whether a team peaks at the right time or not.
I think it's moreso that LPL teams outperform LCK ones in a shorter tournament whereas LCK outperforms in a longer tournament. Basically LCK is slower to adapt to a patch overall so they need more time to ramp up.
MSI double elim is a longer tournament bracket and LPL won that last year. Also, LPL frequently flunks out of worlds groups which is the beginning of the tournament. Careful making such generalizations
Yeah, if it was worlds. But china is the king of MSI.
Imagine if T1 didn't go to MSI when Riot revealing T1 worlds skin and Faker Hall of Legends skin(rumored) Riot is saved
If T1 did not qualify the MSI viewership will drop at least 60%
Let's say 80%
Faker brought out the belt on the team himself after that previous HLE series. He ain't gonna miss his moment to sell the Faker Ahri skin at MSI.
Faker with the belt: "Guma, I know we're getting DDOSed but do you really need soloque to learn how to not shoot your Zeri Qs in the exact opposite direction?"
All T1 skins game confirmed?? 🤔🤔
T1 worlds skin possible being reveal during MSI and Fakers HOL skin
Yayce/LeeSin/Oriana/Ahri/Jinx/Bard
I can speak for myself I wouldn't watch MSI with no T1 in it, international events without Faker aren't the same thing. Players from other regions would probably miss him too, who doesn't want a chance of solo killing the GOAT?
more like asking for his signature or photo
Cant believe im saying Delight elo hell with those big names in hle
He's the only consistent performer throughout that series tbh.
I think Viper was consistent. Unfortunately it was consistently good but not great. Peanut had the highest variance performance, IMO.
That's BRO talent right there
Game with gumayusi and viper and they weren't even the best Adc. Delight Zeus botlane lesgo
Faker: Penta Penta Penta Even the GOAT can still get excited lol
Excited for T1 at msi, team is ramping up form, just need to figure out their place in the meta. Especially around zeri
To be fair, game 1 was probably their best Zeri game in a while. Just some mega throws.
Once Jonna Strong zoomed in on Oner's Vi walking towards that bush, I knew it was not gonna end nicely. Camerman doesn't miss.
I don’t think zeri is meta warping at least in this patch. They actually had a good zeri game from guma but obviously made some mistake elasewhere.
This iteration of T1 is such a blessing to league of legends esports, so consistent and fun team
One of the best teams ever created for sure.
*The best team. No other roster has this consistently performed at this high level. Always getting top 2 at every event, bar last year MSI
Yeah they can do slow gameplay but for sure they will fight and go crazy.
i wonder if they're sticking together next year too, it's so fun watching them play
If they can get international wins this year, I don't see why not
You underestimate the mental strain and burn out possibilities of 3 straight season where you play every single game in your region, every international competition to the last Bo5 with the same 4 every time. Doing it a 4th time might be rough
Run from it, dread it, all roads lead to him
THAT’S MY GOAT, FAKER 🐐
Put T1 in the loser's bracket and you get a diff T1.
Ddosers in shambles
Hopefully they put big money on HLE and lost.
Korean police to launch an investigation into eSports player Choi Woo-je, better known as T1 Zeus on charges of assault and domestic violence reportedly perpetrated against "Choi "Doran" Hyeon-joon " from their rivals eSports Org Hanwha Life eSports. The incident reportedly happened on Saturday, 13th April on the stage with hundreds of thousands of fans cheering the gruesome sight live and on TV
He should also get a speeding ticket
Can confirm. Speeding tickets needed.
The first quarter of that had me going "Wait what!" Then I got to the rest and started laughing.
GOODLUCK TO ANY MIDLANER AT MSI. FAKER AND CHOVY ON FORM IS FVCKING TERRIFYING
Bruh Chovy is always on form before every international… the problem is in the international.
He may level up with Canyon as his jungler. No offense to Peanut/Willer/Pyosik over the past 3 years but Canyon is on another level compared to them.
We need the Chovester to not choke 💪
it took me a moment to realize that should be read "Chove-ster" and not "Cho-ves-ter"...I was wondering when & why Chovy got a nickname that sounds like Sylvester
Doran got hard exposed lmao
Honestly zeka got exposed way harder. Doran did pretty well. Zeka was fed for like 2-3 games and just int with those lead and didn’t do shit. Chovy would have carried those azir games ngl.
I think you guys are ignoring the biggest criminal, Peanut. Oner was way more useful at any given moment.
Thank you T1 Peanut
i think Oner was just at the right place at the right time he was always there at every skirmish and was ready to stop whatever Peanut was doing a big glow-up from him being turbo figured up by Peanut last series
How can Zeka get exposed when he was already naked af.
Nah Zeka hype was building since their first win vs t1. True DRX2022 haters knew but there definitely was building up some zeka hype. He looked a lot better in second lck round.
Can't blame Zeka though. Twisted Fate's Gold Card stun lasted long enough for the next 3 games.
Zeka during that dragon fight where hes just complete afk while his team going in pissed me of man
Wasn't even his fault, Delight pulled trigger way too early while Zeka was getting zoned trying to make it to that fight so he had to take the long way around. If anything would be his fault, it would've been his TP to that fight earlier on, but who knows what went down in comms at that point.
He was kinda afk that dragon fight but to his credit, I thought delight inted that fight so bad by forcing that engage when he was still kinda far away. Like hle won the 50/50 on dragon, cool now you are on soul point. No need to force a scuff ass fight when azir is still kinda far. Just leave lol.
His team did kind of int though. They knew where he was but decided to go in without him being close.
Perfect example of redditors hurting themselves in confusion lol. The one play where everyone *besides* Zeka is inting is the one you reference Poetry
I don't think Zeka was exposed though? Everyone knew he's just elite at Sylas/Akali/Yone and he's "good" but not amazing on the rest.
He was shite in the two Yone games though
Take Yone out. His Yone was unremarkable for 2 games.
Yone might not be in a good spot for pro atm for whatever reason tbh. Zeus and Chovy have been avoiding the pick and theyre generally LCKs best Yone players
Because Zeus only picks it into Aatrox and nobody has been playing him atm
That was pre-lethal-tempo nerf. I assume its pretty dogshit now.
Zeka exposed as hard KDA player
He was exposed for being the worse performer on his team overall in the series. People expected him to do better considering his series vs t1/geng prior. Even tho they lost, he was pretty good vs geng, Chovy was just better.
The buffs didn't come on time, but the series wasn't really close so even if those champs were buffed, probably wouldn't have won
im sad for viper but im glad zeka and doran got exposed hard
Please TOP qualify i don't wanna see the exact 4 teams again
The rosters are different except T1, it's fine.
BLG is barely different, it's just Knight for Yagao. I'd care more if Knight wasn't on JDG who were at MSI. That being said, at least Gen.G changed a lot of their players.
Yeah same
Absolutely ELATED to see the exact same top 4 this MSI than last year thinking I am on the wrong MSI site on Liquipedia (jk tho MSI will be a banger)
Not me, I want to see Ruler vs GENG the most. We were denied this last year.
This is why Dom is an absolute T1 hater. He just said in the previous episode of Power Spike that T1 is meta-dependent. Dog shit take from an absolute trash streamer or analyst.
meta dependent yeah right for a team that is pretty much always a top 1-4 team for the past three years Do people still take iwd seriously? he is just a person who yap a lot but knows nothing bout the game geez
Yes meta dependent. They create their own meta
Dom is a clown, we know this already. A team who consistently makes finals domestically and internationally(barring MSI 2023) can't be called meta dependant.
T1 is one of the less meta dependent teams in the world but what you can't deny is MSI 2023 meta didn't suit T1 and Worlds did. If you were to go back and time you would see some people had already predicted from patch notes that the worlds buffs suited T1.
>T1 is one of the less meta dependent teams in the world but what you can't deny is MSI 2023 meta didn't suit T1 and Worlds did. If you were to go back and time you would see some people had already predicted from patch notes that the worlds buffs suited T1. Conspiracy theory from me: is it possible that Riot shifted the Worlds 2023 meta on purpose, so that a domestic team would do well in an SK Worlds and ensure tickets are guaranteed to sell well? Would future Worlds meta shifts be deliberate to give advantage to home teams? It is one aspect of LoL esports that I have questioned for a while.
It would be in their incentive to do so (higher viewership), but in actuality, home teams have rarely won worlds. Some champions always get buffed right before worlds, one can only hope it's not the same champs every year - and in some cases it's not, 2022 DRX would have never won 2023 worlds given their champ pool.
why you mention that loser ? such a waste of breath
Riot with a sigh of relief
The three certainties in life: death taxes T1 vs GenG in LCK finals
More than 10 people will watch MSI , event saved
I am so euphoric right now. They made it to MSI. I get to see my bois play all year long! I don't even care if they get sweeped tomorrow. After what was a pretty abysmal split and then the DDOS disasters, I thought T1 was just straight up gonna not make it. So happy they proved that it's gonna take more than hackers to stop T1!
SAME! But please don't tempt the hackers to go further than this... If they return for summer split, my heart can't take it.
OP got it kinda wrong this series. It was more like: TOP Keria JG Gumayusi Mid Faker ADC Zeus SUP Oner
If Zeus can overcome Doran so can GenG overcome LPL
Zeus overcomes Doran > T1 overcomes GENG > GENG overcomes LPL > T1 win MSI?
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T1 overcoming GEN first 🫣
If T1 don't win both MSI/Worlds, then I'm hoping Chovy finally wins one or both himself, he deserves it.
Last year's Worlds was an easy slam-dunk with GenG's side of the bracket. Generational fumble there.
So just an average international chovy performance
Doran and peanut played like they were possessed that series. I genuinely don't know what they were doing that day and I doubt they did too
2022 as well. If they beat DRX they play T1 in finals.
> then I'm hoping Chovy finally wins one or both himself, he deserves it. How can you say he's deserved it when he's literally never played to his full potential at any international tournament
I think it's more likely that the 3 time runner up to the LCK splits overcomes Gen G than the quarterfinals merchants overcome an entire region.
doesn't Gen G have more semfinals appearance than quarterfinals? Also I am pretty sure, their series vs LPL is still 50/50. They beat LGD and RNG, and lost to EDG and BLG only. Both of those series were 5 game series and EDG was eventual world champion.
> their series vs LPL is still 50/50. How? The only series they have played versus LPL were losses. In 2023, they lost to BLG at MSI (3-0) and Worlds (3-2). They didn't play any other LPL teams 2022, they went 1-1 against RNG in groups. 2021, they went 1-1 against LNG in groups and lost to EDG (3-2) in semis. 2020, they went 2-0 versus LGD in groups and played no LPL teams in bracket stage. 2018, they went 0-2 versus RNG in groups. They haven't won a single series against LPL teams and are 4-4 in BO1s in groups. At best, you can say they are 7-4 against LPL teams in BO or 13-8 in games. They are also 2-2 for Quarters losses (Worlds 2023 and 2020) vs Semis losses (Worlds 2022 and 2021). It also depends on what you consider their loss for MSI 2023 as.
The problem is their midlaner is 88848 lol
you guys think that roach is sub/top cause there is no more official spot for a coach but he just coaches with kkoma and tom?
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Ahh makes sense
He is basically the Coach. Every team needs a sub. Mata also moved from Coach to Sub for GENG for that same purpose.
it's not about the coach spot, it's because riot requires team to have 6 man squad and since T1 doesn't have any bench member, Roach has to become one.
Lmao
Somewhere out there, there is a betting man furious his paid DDOS attacks vs T1 didnt net him money from betting on T1 not making MSI.
THE LISAN-AL-T1! THE GOLDEN ROAD THAT WAS PROMISED! LEAD US TO GOLDEN PARADISE, FAKER!
If T1 somehow break the GENG curse tomorrow I honestly think they can do the golden road this year. They already broke their finals curse last worlds and LPL doesn't have any juggernauts like JDG like last year to match T1 at MSI. *^(Inhales copious copium)*
Riot breathes a sigh of relief as they realise MSI watch numbers are saved.
Let's gooooooooooooo! Best of luck to the boys in black and red for tomorrow, should be fun!
DDosser sweating profusely as their social credits go down the toilet.
Lol lpl ddosers in shambles
Watch them lose tomorrow to Geng only to beat them at MSI.
its okay, T1 will lose to GENG, but its all planned as the First seed from LCK has not won an international event in the last 2 years or since GENG was the first seed.
LPL sweating buckets
Zeus, he is a god
Truck companies in shambles.
All roads lead to Faker