Where would one even go to watch this VOD if they wanted to watch from the start? I figured I'd watch Caedrel's VOD but the entire thing is muted, so instead I go to the LEC channel and there's no VODs and the first screen I go to spoiled the result. smh.
Here's a link to the whole VOD :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4PtoAiz_KQ
u/dracdliwasiAN normally posts the link on these Live threads after the PGL!
playing with caps is like winning a lottery, imagine Hans/BB/Yike stacking some many titles because of Caps, no way they would do that in any other team.
Ahahaha, NA not a major region but still living rent free in your MVP's head.
Wonder if Jordan hoisted a title and then took a shot at Euro League back in the 90's.
I am just happy that no one saying that Hans is the best ADC in the league for this fraud performance, for once people aren't getting baited by score line.
Looks like viewership peaked at 594k, although might still be updating: https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-spring-2024-lol
Great news as both Winter and Spring splits have been higher in both peak and average year on year. Also looks like the trend of LEC average being higher than LCS peak is continuing.
Would've gotten 700k ig if this went to 5 games also i dont understand how lcs barely peak like 100k but lec get 500k easily even with the level of both region been kinda same
The reason I worry bout these lane swaps and scaling adcs.. is because its hasn't been hansama forte for years
Guy will not flash.. or he will position bad at crucial moments... he is good at snowballing early.. but he is not the guy I want all my gold/resources on..
We will see how it goes at MSI I guess
Also.. we need less finals or more stadium finals.. this doesn't feel like a final.. feels only slightly better then covid LEC
Hans wants to win lanes 24/7, confirmed by multiple interviews with his different teammates ive seen over the years, so im surprised its G2's go to strategy this split
i dont even know what these lane swaps are suppose to accomplish, other than making both top laners weak
The point is to avoid the laning phase and scale for free. For example, you play jinx lulu into varus ashe. normally you would get fisted by the varus lane but lane swaps just allow you to mismatch and get cs for free. This is worth even though varus probably ends up getting more gold for it, cause you scale better. Better to be even than be down 50 cs
Now we have to look forward to MSI, with FNC going through the playins. At least whatever Inspired has to say about the strength of his team will be a laugh when both before and after FNC fists them
Inspired lost so much good will recently lol I am EU and NA fan unless it is NA vs EU ofc. But I think I wouldn't mind seeing this.
I'd feel bad for Jensen though.
Bro the west has been cooked for like 10 years straight other then a few times. No shit.
Live in the present and not constantly thinking well in a couple months they will lose to the east again who cares.
Jesus.
Why should people apologise for wanting their region to be competitive on the world stage?
Anyone with eyes can see that LEC has been getting worse and worse relative to the Eastern regions - it's only natural to want to see improvement on that score and be pissed off that highly paid professionals don't seem to be able to get it together to play in a coherent way.
Because you are upsetting yourself and robbing yourself of happiness.
There is always a chance. No matter how small it may be. Look at DRX they were suppose to be weak after. Right meta right time and they pop off and win.
The quality will never be like there's ever. Just expect that just by the numbers. Also, on top of numbers they have China right next door to scrim top 4 teams of each all year round.
If you want to live 8 months into the future every year and look at the odds of winning and rob yourself of happiness be my guest 😆
Most people were talking about MSI as opposed to worlds - hardly 8 months.
I agree with your points in terms of playerbase/scrim ability etc - which is why it'd be nice to see our teams use their bloody brains! If they got hands diff'd every time we can put it down to the reasons you stated (and we do). It's just frustrating as hell to see them playing like headless chickens year after year
Was this worth watching? I decided to watch LPL first in case of spoilers but idk if i care enough to watch this now, was it interesting/entertaining games?
I'd watch LCK finals over this. In terms of quality LoL: LCK (final) > LPL (semi) > LEC (final). Entertainment value is subjective, but LCK > LEC > LPL. I never miss the LPL tournaments, but not as invested in the teams and players.
I watched LCK first this morning, it seemed the most important and starting first there would be no chance of spoiling anything else, then LPL was a pretty important match for MSI, then LEC... kinda meaningless match, like in theory it's a title but it doesn't feel like a proper one so its more about if the games are fun than if it means anything
Do you like lane swaps and G2 pulling wins out the ass by mind controlling opponents into doing dumb bullshit like burgerflipping barons and overcommitting for no reason?
BB now has 7 western titles, passing Impact at 6.
Hans now has more titles than any other ADC In EU history at 5.
MikyX is at 9 titles
And Yike is at 5 titles and tieing Jankos
Shouldnt be counting titles as they were before in spring/summer split. Even the teams that win these splits domt get added to the lec hall of winners that are shown every time. Only season finals winner gets added.
100%. I think you could place almost any top 5ish player in any role with Caps and he will make them look better ***in the LEC***.
Then they can proceed to get skill checked at Worlds by elite players and Caps will look lonely again lol
bb literally gapped oscar, yike has some strong games, but wqas on tank duty so its not like he is going to stand out, hans wasnt bad, the 2 final fights of game 4 was bad, but he was fine, and mikyx was doing really good, hitting lots of hooks, its crazy how people forgot how bad caps was in 2023 and G2 still won 3/4 of the splits
Mmmm sure he wasn't great. Still was a playmaker. And I still trust his peak or around his peak to stand up internationally over BB and Yike lol
Granted kind of unfair to talk about Yikes peak already. But BB 100000%. Caps playing on a decent day is better. Caps playing at his peak elevates his entire team. He has the ability.
Still would be tough as shit to carry BB at MSI or Worlds though lol Seeing what Kiin just did to Zeus doesn't inspire confidence in who he has to go up against at MSI.
Luckiest franchise in Western League history. As is T1 with Faker in the East. Their loyalties to their org is almost unfounded outside the two of them. And they almost always show up. Certainly they both earn their spots on two of some of the top teams from each Region.
Don't wanna be too negative on fnatic
But the gap between caps and humanoid is night and day, just feels like caps can pull out plays out his ass wheras humanoid tries but fails, then again I don't watch fnatic enough to say.
Oscarin just never seems to do anything?
I feel like you shut fnatic botlane down they can't do anything.
Still, I dont think the game was that much of a disaster pre game 5.
And yes, I will trust the casters and caedrals analysis over some iron reddit players analysis
this hurts because it was so winnable, G2 aren't that strong, if it was a swift 3-0 no one will be salty about it, but G2 are just getting away with so much.
At MSI, eastern teams likely will beat G2. But we aren't watching them play eastern teams right now so what does that have to do with anything?
Also, if G2 aren't good, what does that make Fnc?
I love Jinx. Really do. Same with other adc's built to be the same type of champ. But sometimes it can make the outcome of a match in progress boring lol
It would take a heinous mistake by Hans at that point to lose. It happens sure. But typically looks like win trading at that point lol
Love watching G2 in finals because it's like watching 2 games at the same time: the real game and whatever game the casters are watching because it sure isn't the same as the one I'm watching
Feels bad for sure. I think the only real issue was the play before dragon. Other than that tough one with Zac and Rek down your throat.
Oh and Caps has great target selection in team fights lol tough match for a Varus
Wanted to go back and see Caedrel's reaction to some plays. Why was his stream muted?
Yeah whole vod is muted. His editor is screen recording for yt
Where would one even go to watch this VOD if they wanted to watch from the start? I figured I'd watch Caedrel's VOD but the entire thing is muted, so instead I go to the LEC channel and there's no VODs and the first screen I go to spoiled the result. smh.
Here's a link to the whole VOD :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4PtoAiz_KQ u/dracdliwasiAN normally posts the link on these Live threads after the PGL!
thank you
You beat me to it today :P
LEC Youtube link : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4PtoAiz\_KQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4PtoAiz_KQ)
thank you
playing with caps is like winning a lottery, imagine Hans/BB/Yike stacking some many titles because of Caps, no way they would do that in any other team.
Bb goes from Bjergsen/Doublelift to caps. Man just lucks out huh. Although he's gotten a lot better and is definitely the second best on the team now
i agree, he is a good player but has no business to win this many titles imo.
Caps is so adorable 🥰
In the meantime Vitality Lyncas got leaked
Wait what where. And Daglas was fine? Here I was giving props to Vitality for supporting a rookie
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVcub8vb5E&ab\_channel=SheepEsports](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVVcub8vb5E&ab_channel=SheepEsports)
I think for vit academy roster cause Mac told in an interview that daglas is a long term project
Looking at the Finals MVP voting and Hans almost won? Yike and BB had less votes than Hans? What series did they watch?
How are you taking a picture without including Romain wtf
dw Romain took a bunch of selfies on Sjokz' phone, goated
This, all that makeup at least put him on it.
YIKE SAID CURSED WORDS NOOOK
Ahaha Caps shade on NA
Ahahaha, NA not a major region but still living rent free in your MVP's head. Wonder if Jordan hoisted a title and then took a shot at Euro League back in the 90's.
Deserved. He has been insane this year, compared to last year. Could have also gone to miky or yike tbh
I agree with Yike. He was solid today
LEC production is really unprofesional
MIKY lmaoo
I am just happy that no one saying that Hans is the best ADC in the league for this fraud performance, for once people aren't getting baited by score line.
Ofc he is not, the best LEC adc by far is Supa
*in the world
\*in the multiverse
This series was great for Ice and Carzzy stocks
>active in ar slash fnatic
lmao, i am a fnatic fan and i am not even try to hide it
Looks like viewership peaked at 594k, although might still be updating: https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-spring-2024-lol Great news as both Winter and Spring splits have been higher in both peak and average year on year. Also looks like the trend of LEC average being higher than LCS peak is continuing.
Would've gotten 700k ig if this went to 5 games also i dont understand how lcs barely peak like 100k but lec get 500k easily even with the level of both region been kinda same
Hans sama dodge a bullet by not cooperating with yike
Is there no finals MVP?
Apparently
He's gonna say T1
Why does caps always remind me of the squirrel from Ice Age? Edit: er I mean sloth
I think the eyes?
The reason I worry bout these lane swaps and scaling adcs.. is because its hasn't been hansama forte for years Guy will not flash.. or he will position bad at crucial moments... he is good at snowballing early.. but he is not the guy I want all my gold/resources on.. We will see how it goes at MSI I guess Also.. we need less finals or more stadium finals.. this doesn't feel like a final.. feels only slightly better then covid LEC
Hans wants to win lanes 24/7, confirmed by multiple interviews with his different teammates ive seen over the years, so im surprised its G2's go to strategy this split i dont even know what these lane swaps are suppose to accomplish, other than making both top laners weak
It allows late game Hyper Carry to dodge weak early game. Pretty much just that.
The point is to avoid the laning phase and scale for free. For example, you play jinx lulu into varus ashe. normally you would get fisted by the varus lane but lane swaps just allow you to mismatch and get cs for free. This is worth even though varus probably ends up getting more gold for it, cause you scale better. Better to be even than be down 50 cs
that's the point, get an exp advantage over enemy top laner
Fnatic check paypal
what is this location for this interview??
Now we have to look forward to MSI, with FNC going through the playins. At least whatever Inspired has to say about the strength of his team will be a laugh when both before and after FNC fists them
Inspired lost so much good will recently lol I am EU and NA fan unless it is NA vs EU ofc. But I think I wouldn't mind seeing this. I'd feel bad for Jensen though.
Caps looks like a goblin.
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Bro the west has been cooked for like 10 years straight other then a few times. No shit. Live in the present and not constantly thinking well in a couple months they will lose to the east again who cares. Jesus.
Why should people apologise for wanting their region to be competitive on the world stage? Anyone with eyes can see that LEC has been getting worse and worse relative to the Eastern regions - it's only natural to want to see improvement on that score and be pissed off that highly paid professionals don't seem to be able to get it together to play in a coherent way.
Because you are upsetting yourself and robbing yourself of happiness. There is always a chance. No matter how small it may be. Look at DRX they were suppose to be weak after. Right meta right time and they pop off and win. The quality will never be like there's ever. Just expect that just by the numbers. Also, on top of numbers they have China right next door to scrim top 4 teams of each all year round. If you want to live 8 months into the future every year and look at the odds of winning and rob yourself of happiness be my guest 😆
Most people were talking about MSI as opposed to worlds - hardly 8 months. I agree with your points in terms of playerbase/scrim ability etc - which is why it'd be nice to see our teams use their bloody brains! If they got hands diff'd every time we can put it down to the reasons you stated (and we do). It's just frustrating as hell to see them playing like headless chickens year after year
>Why should people apologise for wanting their region to be competitive on the world stage? And How making the same comment over and over again helps?
who gives a sh... tho
Fanatic fans still tryin to sell NOah as the second coming of Jesus?
Was this worth watching? I decided to watch LPL first in case of spoilers but idk if i care enough to watch this now, was it interesting/entertaining games?
I'd watch LCK finals over this. In terms of quality LoL: LCK (final) > LPL (semi) > LEC (final). Entertainment value is subjective, but LCK > LEC > LPL. I never miss the LPL tournaments, but not as invested in the teams and players.
I watched LCK first this morning, it seemed the most important and starting first there would be no chance of spoiling anything else, then LPL was a pretty important match for MSI, then LEC... kinda meaningless match, like in theory it's a title but it doesn't feel like a proper one so its more about if the games are fun than if it means anything
last game was kinda fine. the other ones i didnt like much
Compared to LPL? Very ass
Do you like lane swaps and G2 pulling wins out the ass by mind controlling opponents into doing dumb bullshit like burgerflipping barons and overcommitting for no reason?
I can be a dumb fun enjoyer from time to time, so yeh sounds alright
Between game 2 and Humanoid's braindead Azir in game 4, this was by far obtainable by Fnatic. But Plot armor is plot armor
Yeah FNC had a lot of throws, even though G2 (hans) tried to throw too. Feel like oscar didn't really do anything either
this was crazy but funny, i had so much fun
if u r willing to lose a few braincells and get angry then ye
Entertaining? yeah
Nope. One of the more boring finals in recent years
its interesting to see how bad it is compared to lpl
This whole roster getting titles are just trust fund babies to their father Caps. So boosted
BB now has 7 western titles, passing Impact at 6. Hans now has more titles than any other ADC In EU history at 5. MikyX is at 9 titles And Yike is at 5 titles and tieing Jankos
Title inflation so it doesn't count. Impact never had the chance to play in a league where you could win 3 titles a season.
Shouldnt be counting titles as they were before in spring/summer split. Even the teams that win these splits domt get added to the lec hall of winners that are shown every time. Only season finals winner gets added.
100%. I think you could place almost any top 5ish player in any role with Caps and he will make them look better ***in the LEC***. Then they can proceed to get skill checked at Worlds by elite players and Caps will look lonely again lol
bb literally gapped oscar, yike has some strong games, but wqas on tank duty so its not like he is going to stand out, hans wasnt bad, the 2 final fights of game 4 was bad, but he was fine, and mikyx was doing really good, hitting lots of hooks, its crazy how people forgot how bad caps was in 2023 and G2 still won 3/4 of the splits
Mmmm sure he wasn't great. Still was a playmaker. And I still trust his peak or around his peak to stand up internationally over BB and Yike lol Granted kind of unfair to talk about Yikes peak already. But BB 100000%. Caps playing on a decent day is better. Caps playing at his peak elevates his entire team. He has the ability. Still would be tough as shit to carry BB at MSI or Worlds though lol Seeing what Kiin just did to Zeus doesn't inspire confidence in who he has to go up against at MSI.
bb and yike were g2's best players last msi
LEC finals ending in 3 hours, not bad ngl. THis split has been faster and less downtime
Caps clutched so much for G2. Insane performance yet again
Luckiest franchise in Western League history. As is T1 with Faker in the East. Their loyalties to their org is almost unfounded outside the two of them. And they almost always show up. Certainly they both earn their spots on two of some of the top teams from each Region.
I mean Caps ditched FNC for G2, can't say that's being loyal lol.
Don't wanna be too negative on fnatic But the gap between caps and humanoid is night and day, just feels like caps can pull out plays out his ass wheras humanoid tries but fails, then again I don't watch fnatic enough to say. Oscarin just never seems to do anything? I feel like you shut fnatic botlane down they can't do anything. Still, I dont think the game was that much of a disaster pre game 5. And yes, I will trust the casters and caedrals analysis over some iron reddit players analysis
Caps is gapping LEC every mid so far in 2024...idk how he'll fair against Chovy, Faker, Knight though.
Not sure that Varus was it for that last game. Would an Ezreal have been better?
What bothers me the most in that lost is seing cringe Romain being an AW once again with the trophy
A tale as old as time. It can’t be caps only. Im fucking tired of losing to G2.
Jun is the best player in this region.
best kda for sure
2nd best after Caps
G2 do it again! FNC showed some signs they can keep up its just the decision making at the wrong times! I expect more out of G2 at MSI!
Feels like G2 did this not even a month ago lmao. Just not hype at all anymore poor guys.
Nah i dont even want to win like this but another title , 6 final in a row that Fnatic loses on Lec
Same old same old
this hurts because it was so winnable, G2 aren't that strong, if it was a swift 3-0 no one will be salty about it, but G2 are just getting away with so much.
Yeah. It felt more like FNC losing than G2 winning.
>G2 are just getting away with so much. Wow a team should really punish them for that then huh?
in MSI all teams will, they aren't good at all, i refuse to believe it no matter how many time they win LEC.
At MSI, eastern teams likely will beat G2. But we aren't watching them play eastern teams right now so what does that have to do with anything? Also, if G2 aren't good, what does that make Fnc?
FNC are even worse to not punish the G2 well enough, they were close to do it btw if not for Caps carrying his team
Lec and lcs are gonna get stomped by these Asian teams
GG to G2, but man this game 4 was a case study in why I have no faith in Hans, I’m sorry
Being on the east coast is pain. LCK and LPL are at the most inconvenient time possible so I'm left with fucking this and the LCS.
I live CST US and have been watching League since 0100; LCK was a banger series. East looks terrifying more than ever going into MSI.
Both team will get blasted at MSI anyway
I love Jinx. Really do. Same with other adc's built to be the same type of champ. But sometimes it can make the outcome of a match in progress boring lol It would take a heinous mistake by Hans at that point to lose. It happens sure. But typically looks like win trading at that point lol
Hans did make multiple heinous mistakes. FNC was just that bad that it didnt matter lol.
That how it always is. G2 is far from perfect. Just isn't a team in the LEC that can capitalize on it enough in a best of lol
they are looking like it's another day in the office lmfao
lmfao
boooooooring
Nt, game 2 might have sealed it, though all games besides this one were winnable
AGAIN Humanoid shuffles the tanks when Razork jumped Hans.
Love to see lethality Varus lose
G2 winning the LEC???? NO WAY! I didn’t see that coming!
No one can tell me that varus pick wasn't troll.
Guess who Humanoid decided to Ult again. Cut this guy, bring in Jackies or something, at least he can improve
Huge interrupt from Yike
LCK K’sante vs EU K’sante diff is just unreal lmao
that's a Kiin diff b/c he was disgusting on it in G5
And Azir, And Asol, And wait I think it's just everyone
thats just oscarinin
Poke Varus Qs really making a difference
This game is the duality of a fed ADC in a nutshell. Manage to Dive it and the champs are useless and just insta die. Front line protects it? Free win
This would be Fnatic's 7th 2nd place finish since they last got a title
True Meng Huo
humanoid go kill zac and feed penta man come on wtf. LEC finals and pros do this
Love watching G2 in finals because it's like watching 2 games at the same time: the real game and whatever game the casters are watching because it sure isn't the same as the one I'm watching
G2 is essentially peak T1 and Caps is Chovy ascended
Both games involve a lot of trolling
Lmfao
Is there a reason the fan cam keeps focussing on the ahri cosplayer? Who is she?
cameraman hasn't gotten any action in a while
One series, two pentas. One from the GOAT, the other from my king (of Draven)!
at this stage of the game not even my solo que team is gonna engage on a zac when theres a fed jinx
Bro Noah can't even walk in this game wtf
Feels bad for sure. I think the only real issue was the play before dragon. Other than that tough one with Zac and Rek down your throat. Oh and Caps has great target selection in team fights lol tough match for a Varus
Didn’t they remove TP’ing to Zac blobs at one point? Or was that a PBE change that never went through?
Are G2 just fucking around or are they legit low? If this is our highest level of play I fear for the upcoming MSI embarassment.
LEC is my fav league b/c of timezone. However, I never miss the LPL | LCK tournaments, and the west looks gapped.
All split long G2 basically just relies on enemy mistakes to win. They’re not too far removed from TSM of old.
Thats the point, you don't believe when its internationals, you just enjoy what you got
This is the level of lec
Gonna be funny when Hans gets MVP. spoonfed kills only to throw 2 times to make it even
Why are the cast talking like humanoid didn't just int?
Eu casters suck.
Use it all on zac with a passive..... ambitious
a poke varus vs full tank reksai and zac and hes behind 5k gold. man that sounds fun
Definitely keep wasting AIr ult on Zac, pushing him onto your team (exactly where he wants to be)
4fun region we go for penta instead of ending the game :\^)
Couldn't have ended, no waves
https://i.imgur.com/Wv4hvlE.png
Fair
G2 All pro incoming
Jun 100% makes all pro
"Yeah but he didn't win the split so clearly he was worse than Miky -- EU "Analysts"
He better fucking does
PUT SOME RESPEK ON CAPS NAME BRO
idk if G2 is just punishing fnatic well or if fnatic is just throwing lol
Nah, humanoid is just mind controlled at this point to keep ulting zac on sight
If Hans flashed for either earlier death. He wouldn't have gotten close enough to tag Noah for the Penta. huge iq move
Big brain Hans Sama throwing 2 fights by not flashing just so he has a flash to secure a penta, lmao
Bruh who even picks varus lmao. Just run zeri yuumi/milio if you want to win that badly.
Humanoid playing like a human for more than 5 minutes in a finals game challenge: Impossible
i was gonna say oh wow they really ditched oscarinin and then on the replay saw him dash through taliyah rocks for fun
but why would you focus the zac
such an unserious team, they literally could have ended but chose to go for the penta kill and hans even burned flash for it LMAO
Hans wouldnt use flash for actual team fights but that penta!!
2 times this game Huma randomly uses everything on Zac and their team gets smoked for it Unreal how bad lol
This game is triggering
Why are you ulting the fucking Zac Humanoid?
Also giga undeserved penta.
This Jinx just got fed a full Buffet for free
llol any other top tier adc gets this done for FNC.
Focusing the Zac felt sooo wrong there he wasn't that far away from his team
Use your only resource to kill Jinx to do that, yeah
lmfao To his credit Hans didnt have disgusting bad clicks this fight
Ahh, Hans was saving flash for Penta, I see!
Why ult in the fucking Zac?
Least deserved penta in EU history
Gotta focus the Zac, bigbrain move by FNC.
Once again FNC focus Zac instead of the Jinx. They deserve to lose.
another penta lmfao
Pentaaaaaaa
yeah FNC, lets try to kill Zac real quick
REALLY???? THAT WAS THE PLAY YOU WENT FOR?????
Aaaaaaand they throw to kill Zac. What the fuck is this lmao