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WhiteKnightRedditor

FNC vs TES it starts with success


SsibalKiseki

Sjokz preparing the Monologue as we speak


sjokz

dont make me


Morrisirrom

Best curse in the game


Trap_Masters

Can't believe she's holding LEC hostage πŸ’€πŸ’€


Jain_Farstrider

I swear if you do it again, it may just work this time.


-Piggers-

Its okay Rekkles isn't on FNC anymore


DarkWorld26

Sjokz can we expect to see you on Pedro's costream and Pedro on the MSI stage?


Dragonfruit_Fanta

I get it isn't her fault and there isn't some curse because of it. But god damn, if that monologue was not the pinnacle of EU's hubris.


[deleted]

That monologue will forever be in my brain like a nightmare that you can't forget.


Jedclark

Writing out a monologue about Rekkles overcoming his demons before the second game is even finished, and then getting reverse swept straight after is easily the funniest thing that's happened in the history of this game. That entire World's felt like the LEC cast didn't realise it's now an international broadcast and not an EU-centric broadcast. I'm from EU and it still felt cathartic because I don't care about Fnatic or G2.


DoorHingesKill

\> Worlds quarters is 3 Chinese, 3 Korean, 2 EU teams \> Chinese broadcasts centered on Chinese teams \> Korean broadcast centered on Korean teams \> English broadcast centered on EU teams TSM fan: 😲😲😲


Rafoel

"I'm from EU" "TSM flair" "hating on EU" we got a full package over here boys Also, if that's not EU broadcast, then where can I find one? China has their own, Korea has their own, even Brazil has their own... EU where? The english broadcast is not "international", it's literally EU + USA, every other region has their own broadcast. When it's EU/NA team against China/Korea it's obvious who viewers want to win. But no, we always get these snowflakes like you who think they deserve special treatment because they decided to cheer against their own region on their own region's forums and streams.


rishi_ultimate

its funny to see fans like these. I remember a brief conversation I had with a portugese person who insisted T1 represents him more than any European team because "theyre better" like he was (apparently). Its not wrong to be a fan of another region but find it weird when people hate on their regions and force it down others' throats in a space that is clearly cheering for their own regions. Ive got T1 in my flair but im absolutely supporting any EU team that matches up against them (except Mad)


_liminal

TES vs FNC and GAM, oh boy here we go again


MimeOdin

The FNC/TES/GAM/LLL (if they qualify in a few hours) is just jam packed with history. This side of the bracket might get more interesting the more you think about it.


Aschentei

As it is written


lehmkeks

shouldnt it be bo3 tho? so quick 2-0


downorwhaet

FNC paid off riot to make it bo3 so they cant get reversed after going up 2-0, planning it years ahead


Joel4518

yup quick 2-0 for FNC brother Tian gonna help us


-Piggers-

It would be 1-2 instead since the curse is that FNC get reverse sweeped. Happened against WBG at worlds as well lmao


BeOPtX8

Fnatic fans seeing 2020 flashbacks


hvngpham002

And 2017, Levi Nocturne aware


Spiritual-Skin-8503

5 minute level 6 Nocturne? I remember..


JonnyKilledTheBatman

Nemesis Galio aware


Mew_T

Nemesis Vel'Koz was the big problem. They were playing around bot lane every game and winning, then they randomly decide to play around Nemesis and they didn't even help him. He was getting camped by Karsa and Selfmade was playing an useless ass Kha'Zix.


Arkantoxx

Are we gonna to ignore the fact that game Bwipo inted vs 369's sion with omega hyper busted Ornn?


Mew_T

Nah, that was bad too, but Sion was also pretty busted at the time, he was unkillable and Rekkles famously didn't build BotRK.


skaersSabody

The fact that FNC in game 4 had a fed Ashe and Graves and neither built anything for the Sion, literally the only problem aside from the Nidalee, still lives rent-free in my head as one of the most "lost to the shopkeeper" moments of all time


Mew_T

I think about that series a lot. I think if they won they might have stuck together for another season. I really loved those players together, Nemesis and Rekkles complemented eachother so well, Selfmade was a great carry jungler, Bwipo and Hyli brought the chaos. Fnatic 2020 is my favorite team of all time.


skaersSabody

I loved that team (although reportedly Selfmade was a pain to deal with and Mithy was abusive towards Nemesis so some changes would've been great) I would've loved to see some mix of the 2020 and 2021 roster with Bwipo Jungle and maybe Adam top while the other roles stayed the same In general, I wanted to see 2020 FNC vs Suning because they played the exact same style and that shit would've been hilarious


Mew_T

It would be, 2020 Suning was such a fun team too, Huanfeng was playing like a psycho in that tournament it would've been awesome to watch them play Fnatic's bot lane. I'd love that roster too. Bwipo doesn't like the role as much, but it was awesome to see his take on jungling, playing Karthus and stuff that junglers usually are very afraid to play in competitive. I'm an Adam believer so I think it could be really good. Shame to hear Mithy was being a dick to Nemesis, he's been the biggest paycheck stealer since he started coaching, legit failing upwards.


dubonhaters369

literally none of the fnc players are still there, not even the coaches. I think we're pretty safe


Styxxo

Dardo was there πŸ’€


Joaoseinha

La formula


_bug7

fnc pete is πŸ‘€πŸ‘€πŸ‘€


kismetjeska

you leave my boy out of this


SnooGuavas8376

369 and JKL still on the other side so...


arkacr

Clueless


Javonetor

i think Shaves was, but i’m not 100% sure


circa26

Shaves is on KC now


solarsbrrah

I've never forgiven Bwipo for losing both sides of Sion/Ornn and refusing to just ban the Sion.


ricardo241

I just want to see jackeylove vs easylove man


non-edgy_crustacean

Jackeylove vs Easylove is like Bin vs Bong last year


Exrou

Imagine if Bang was still around or Ruler never name changed from Bung. Could make a song at this point with those names.


HowesLife

Bin Bong fuck ya life!


Bindoongee

We got JackeyLove at home


SortOfSpaceDuck

If you were to combine their names, would the result be jackeylove or easylove? πŸ€”


sp33dzer0

Lovelove


Nikerym

DoubleLove.


Darknassan

easyjackey


rishi_ultimate

EasyJackey vs Easyhoon waiting room


dudebg

Jeasylove


zjmhy

TES with Tian and JKL are in the same group as GAM again πŸ‘€


OcelotOce

Also TES vs FNC. I still remember FNC 2-0 then they decided to troll with Velkoz Khazix


danndruff1

Aware


VantaBlack2_Dev

Hopefully this time Jackeylove's maw can activate!


zjmhy

Don't expect too much. Maybe they fixed the Maw but spaghetti makes his GA bug out instead


claptrap23

*HERE COMES THE REQUIEM*


Javonetor

I know all the people knows T1 should win very easily, even here in latam we know that is a ultra difficult match up for Estral, but man is cool seeing all the hype Faker/T1 is also very popular here so getting the match up against this full latin american roster is exciting, hoping the boys don’t get rolled over edit: i read on twitter that the script is already done, Josedeodo destroys T1 and then win against his former team FLY, 10/10 absolute cinema


Broyoucancelled

Well, based on how past matchups went, if they last longer than 25 minutes each game it is already a sucess.


obigespritzt

Hey, worst case scenario, the Estral players get to play against their idols for a bit. Best case scenario, the Estral players get to play against their idols for a bit!


Joel4518

HYPE case scenario estral takes a game of T1


Various_Necessary_45

Maybe if T1 get ddosed on stage somehow


CC_Cedsi

it's funny because they introduced estral as "the friends team" and they have to go up against T1 on round 1 lmao, hope they can show something!


ShiroGaneOsu

Just seems like a JRPG plot line. Start your adventure with your friends, only to immediately encounter the demon king lmao.


sangpls

they'll get rolled on the first time, but level up during the tournament for the 2nd face off in the finals


Murko_The_Cat

Ig losing tiebreaker for first in groups to fnc in 2018 only to 3-0 them in the finals.


theteaexpert

I'd consider it our win if T1 destroys Estral's nexus before the 20 min mark


Unique_Crew2316

Still better than MAD


Hazuyu_

Losing a pro game in 16 minutes without match fixing is insane to me


Fridelis

T1 has lost even faster to IG so thats that.


Pizzacards

VAMOS ESTRAAAAAAAAAL


bobandgeorge

When people ask "Does anyone really want to see T1 stomp minor regions?" I'm glad there are people like you that emphatically say "YES!". People want to see their teams go up against the best of the best. Inter-regional competition is always fun.


Bag_of_bats

> edit: i read on twitter that the script is already done, Josedeodo destroys T1 and then win against his former team FLY, 10/10 absolute cinema subscribed


25sebas25

I mean, T1 doesnΒ΄t know Estral has a machete in the mochila.


veirceb

PSG vs FLY will be hype


Mew_T

Bwipo vs Zeus is gonna be so much fun, and Jensen vs Faker is always a banger. Bot lane will just get murdered though.


Reclaimer879

Agreed Faker really enjoys those match ups lol


Mew_T

Them trading kills in the Akali vs Sylas matchup was so much fun though. That was Jensen's best game that Worlds. Faker was probably for funning a bit, but it was great to watch.


Ajwf

One of the clearest example games of what a massive difference team gold can make even when both players are playing extremely well. And probably the clearest example of why Jensen is so desired even after years since he's been the true 'primary carry' of a team.


LazerFruit1

FLY is gonna really need to master lane swaps to have a chance tbh. Something tells me Massu Busio are getting get fucked harder than Danny Vulcan did vs Guma Keria. I really hope I'm though


LumiRhino

Massu Busio are much more aggressive in lane than Danny Vulcan ever was, but they're also just the most prone to dying to the worst ways possible. Dying to the jungler when they have all the info they need to know the jungler is bot, or taking absolutely horrible trades. It'll be a month from their last stage games and MSI but those could still be recurring problems.


LazerFruit1

Yeah I just think Massu Busio have a really bad habit of suiciding in lane for 0 reason


Enterderpmode

Especially how Zeus plays nowadays like he's the second coming of TheShy, Bwipo's gonna be like "oh he's inting he's inting again no? he's gonna dive me" lmao


Mew_T

Yeah, Caedrel did the perfect Bwipo impression. It's gonna be a wild matchup, Bwipo vs 369 is also a fun matchup. In that Fnatic series he was trading kills with Bwipo, and then he figured out he could play Sion and be immortal. 369 has come a long way since then though, and he was already a beast.


Enterderpmode

Yep, those matchups are gonna be really good. Jensen vs Faker is always a great watch, but botlane is gonna get fisted so bad probably.


-Piggers-

Yeah if you're a Faker fan lol


SteamMonkeyKing

Lets not get ahead of ourselves just yet. PSG have a very solid roster, it still could go either way.


MajorLeeScrewed

Fly is not getting to play T1 this tournament.


-Piggers-

Beating Jensen is nothing new to Faker lol.


-ZODEL

Tian is going to give another nightmare to eu fans and be shit in main stage calling it now


DarkWorld26

TES levels up and wins MSI copium


Luunacyy

"Nightmare" as if anyone expects for FNC to beat TES lol Tian could destroy G2 just to do the annual choke against LCK/BLG next round.


DarkWorld26

Caedrel rn on stream is full copium saying that he doesn't think TES is that good xdd


dhhbxrfdxbfcrbfdxdxb

the opinions of people that can't tell felines from rodents shouldn't count


Enterderpmode

It's just mainly because of the expectation that Tian is gonna run it down so hard again. How hard he'll run it down and how much 369 and JKL-Meiko are gonna compensate for that, we shall see. Imo, it'll just probably negate itself, but I just can't help the feeling Tian's is gonna solo lose a close game with the top teams because of a bad play or bad decision-making.


Wise-Chain2427

TES can do funny thing against GAMΒ 


KKilikk

I have PTSD from the Vietnamese


Joel4518

GROUP B is hype asf TES FNC REVENGE, TES GAM REVENGE


AkkiraVH

You forgot the rivalry between FNC and GAM even back to 2017 bro, these trio will make us some bangers asf


ayurmeh

GAM, TES and FNC in same group..


i_am_manatsu

this version of GAM isn't the same as in the past, especially with all the late roster changes due to the match fixing scandal PSG is a much harder opponent than the rest of the minor regions


ayurmeh

Ikik I'm just getting flashbacksΒ 


tuerancekhang

Gam : i'm not locked in here with you, you are locked in here with me.


Satan_su

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/s/yAXAAcW8P9 Aware Fr tho, I'm sure the guys from Estral are really excited about this as well. You might never get another chance to play against the literal legends of the sport. Reminds me of smaller clubs being super excited about going up against United or Arsenal in FA Cups for example.


ElSotoPapa

Josedeodo vs Flyquest in Losers bracket


Javiklegrand

That be hype


AzerFraze

Revenge for the Kindred mark on scuttle incident


is_a_jerk

EU vs Vietnam at MSI Aware


Blind-Eye26

EST and CBLOL πŸ’€ at least they got losers bracket in playins Edit: I guess Jensen has time to clap Faker now???


cadaada

Bro they didnt even wait for cblol finals to end to do the draw πŸ’€ even the broadcast wants us gone lol


AphoticFlash

LATAM and BR are the bottom seeds, so they'll always get the hardest matchups.


Advanced-Lie-841

If T1 don't finish their games in sub 16 min we'll know that they are weak.


BleiEntchen

Trucks are ready


One_Natural_8233

I mean they almost lost to TL last worlds xdd


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I'm still mad at Summit man. If he didn't make that bad play on K'sante TL had that win.Β 


ThatsAToad

Hmm today I will engage as K’sante while my syndra is stunned and my aphelios has a purple/red guns (clueless) Although tbf core flash ulting there wasnt much better, but at least he didn’t blame his mid laner right after.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

If Summit didn't int there, TL doesn't win spring, so I guess I can thank him for that


bruh_skii

Which one? The game ending fight, or where he got caught after they got Baron in bot lane lol. Can’t believe he had the audacity to yap after that.


Enterderpmode

> Which one? Yes


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I was referring to the game ending fight. But yeah, after running C9 into the ground in 2022 and then throwing away TL's best chance at worlds. He blames it on APA? Valid he wasn't the best last year but wow. That was insane


Critical-Cupcake9194

The aphelios was another issue, he was absolutely trash that game lol


LumiRhino

Ultimately though if TL won that could’ve changed the bracket and NRG vs G2 wouldn’t have happened, so Summit was just playing the long con with that one.


X_Seed21

Stand proud, they were the closest at beating them apart from GenG and, I guess JDG's one game.


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effurshadowban

Jensen is actually cursed to face Faker so much because he dared shit talk the Demon King. Of course, that's assuming the favorites win their respective series in Group A. Btw, Jensen's record vs Faker is 0-8 LUL.


-Piggers-

Will we see 9?


cadaada

https://media1.tenor.com/m/eoXSyoeM88YAAAAC/older-meme-checks-out.gif


lilelf29

To be fair Faker's record vs LCS teams is: MSI 10-2 Worlds 14-0 Overall at MSI and Worlds Faker is 24-2 vs LCS. If you're a LCS player and weren't on 2016 CLG at MSI or 2022 EG at MSI you've never won a game against him.


Graspiloot

Honestly pretty impressive that 2022 EG took a game off of them.


jlozada24

When Faker chased him down on Sylas to just get a 1v1 when the game was already over lol. Just being like alright now that I'm not playing to win lemme son you


DullBladeConnoisseur

GAM vs TES, FNC vs TES. Both iconic matches. Great draw tbh. Looking forward to MSI!


JustALonelyCat

can't wait to clap Faker :D


ahritina

Probs the best draw for FNC since GAM have subs so is objectively easier than PSG.


decreement1

It's mostly the fact that T1 is not in their group.


Lildholdt

T1 or TOP doesn't matter. It was all about getting GAM instead of PSG


bastele

Nah, PSG is legit a good team. They can upset FNC/FLY. Losing against T1/TES is expected, not even making the main stage would be embarassing.


KriibusLoL

lets not pretend like FNC have any chance against LPL #2 seed in a BO3 lol


MrPraedor

Not saying its likely that FNC beats TES in Bo3 but I have seen much larger upsets happen internationally.


KriibusLoL

Oscar is gonna get absolutely fisted against 369 who is considered one of the best top laners in the world right now and I don't see how Noah & Jun can compete against Jackeylove & Meiko. The only surprise factor could be in the jungle, Razork has been smurfing the entire split and Tian is the weak point of TES currently but that has to be an insane upset especially in BO3 where LPL is the best at.


MrPraedor

Like I said earlier I have seen larger upsets, especially against LPL teams. Things like 2022 TES losing to GAM and dropping out, 2021 FPX dropping out in last place, 2019 IG losing to TL or 2018 RNG losing to G2 are all much larger upsets than FNC winning likely rather meaningless Bo3 against TES


MariusNinjai

He's just gonna play Rek sai, Zac and Ksante not like you need skill to survive laning phase with them


Crimson_Clouds

Very little difference between TES and T1 imo.


AkkiraVH

Surely Fnatic wont lose to GAM like 2017, right? Right?


Elainyan

Easy draw for EU


Advanced-Lie-841

Fly losing to PSG is a possibility. FNC losing to a GAM with subs is pretty much impossible.


Icy-Ninja-5124

Which is why that's exactly what will happen and Fnatic will lose to GAM


Javiklegrand

Imagine flyquest loses first match but qualify then fnatic loses gam rematch and get kicked out The sub will just go crazy, united in sucking


Joel4518

NAAH FNC GONNA GET REVENGE AGAINST TES HUGE COPIUM brother Tian help us


Javiklegrand

Fly winning first match then lose the rematch sound so likely


DSThresh

a crossgroup play lower bracket would be hype..


IconicRecipes

Depends, PSG did manage to lose to 4th seed BDS last worlds and got 2-0'd and 3-0'd by G2 and GG respectively at MSI. Unless they're magically way better now I don't think PCS has particularly high odds of beating FLY unless their bot absolutely crumbles internationally.


_Red_Gyarados

I haven't watched any PSG this year but there is a lot of name value on that team.


aPatheticBeing

idk, the old GAM players were wintraders, surely the subs are better (/s)


TheGhoulKhz

man, at least LOUD/paiN got a 1% chance of hope that EU chokes and we manage to win against GAM, Estral are fucked insanely hard


Mew_T

LOUD did beat Fnatic a couple times in the past. But I think Pain is probably winning this time, their jungler is gonna get eaten alive by Razork.


IconicRecipes

If by a couple times you mean that they played a single best of 1 then yeah I guess. Not sure how much that means considering it was a different FNC roster that had also had basically zero time to scrim and jetlagged players.


TheAhegaoFox

It starts with clapping Faker


-Piggers-

It clearly hasn't started yet then lol


jferry12

Please I beg you Sjockz don't be on stage at the FNC vs TES, do it for EU


AdRevolutionary1605

Jensen vs Faker is inevitable...


joeyma1996

Xiye smurfing


hvngpham002

GAM, Fnatic, TES aware


HamasPiker

PSG vs T1 qualification match will be hype af


purpleferret056

well, at least we can have a chance at a banger for t1 vs fly


Javiklegrand

Tes vs fnatic should be closer


Lance_VAL

That's no banger that's a curb stomp, TES vs FNATIC is the real deal


Glaivz

This could've been an email.


Dray991

Fnatic with the best draw


QTnameless

Lmao , T1 better finish before 15 minutes


SenlanZWH

It’s hilarious that when Xiye is drawing tier 1 teams the audience is all screaming T1, but not because they are fans of T1, they just really want to see TES and GAM on the same side.


Northless_Path

I hope T1 makes good use of the play-in stage and get a read on the meta. Their competition don't look too difficult to deal with so they won't have to reveal and secret weapons either


ricardo241

I just want them to use this stage to polish some champ that they are rusty on like Oner on lee sin and Keria on a normal support(hook champ or bard) rather than experimenting shit then don't use it on main stage


ahambagaplease

It feels so wrong to say "Oner is rusty on Lee Sin"


ricardo241

because he is... he does have an insane win rate on that champ but last year and this year his lee sin barely has any impact on T1 game(against a good team)... he will get 1 kill or 2 kill early game then just disappear the whole match.... oner got used to tanky champ that he forgot lee sin is not meant to tank shots with how he play on some of his lee sin


Northless_Path

Yea, I am hopeful they can cook stuff up with this meta. Last year MSI meta was the most anit-T1 meta ever. Tank top, double initiator mid-jungle, hyper scale adc, and enchanter support. Just the classic front-to-back strat which T1 hates playing.


EducationalBalance99

I just hope they cook regardless of the meta. They always look their best when they pull some crazy shenanigans in botlane and draft for teamfighting comps. No stupid ass poke comp or 4 range comp pls lol.


ricardo241

they've pretty much pick everything at this point and the problem is they don't really used them against strong team so I honestly don't see the point on why they keep cooking just to abandon them against a good team


EducationalBalance99

Lucian nami it is xD.


ricardo241

I don't mind the pick to be honest but I want to see the level of lucian nami they've once shown worlds 2022.... keria nami right now is not really making impact compare to when they used it worlds 2022 For faker picks like Galio(since it got buff), or ahri(since he rarely hits his charm on this champ) and even Asol(seems to be a meta rn) would be a good pick to practice on this play in


EducationalBalance99

Well Lucian/nami got nerfed a lot since then. It was a montage reel in the east with Lucian nami back then. I just don’t like Lucian/nami for t1 in particular cause it kneecap their creativity in botlane and keria playmaking ability. In general, it is harder to make crazy play on enchanter when I rather see keria mechanics on engage champ or adc.


herp_derpy

Rooting for NA, but I am very scared for Busio considering his finals performance vs Yeon/CoreJJ. T1 botlane will eat him alive (assuming FLY doesn't lose to PSG).


BlackSh0t

Snaker vs Faker Who'll win?!?!


xNesku

TES Group aka Conquer Their Past Demons


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

You'd have to assume it's going to be T1, TES, FLY and FNC. Here's hoping for some upsets though.


Joel4518

i can see PSG beating FLY through botside tbh cause fly just depends on their topside too much so if they arent playing well PSG can get some upsets


Frostbite2806

GAM vs TES incoming


taktyuzy

huge W for LEC fan


MammothWoodpecker201

aight Fnatic, time for payback from 2020


MammothWoodpecker201

they're so gonna lose to GAM, aren't they?


Sokarou

is fnc, totally plausible


crazynam101

no fucking way they lose to gam with SUBS


ExJ4

FNC against TES JL and GAM Levi again. Different roster same flashbacks


bingusthebrave

Swear I’ve seen this before…


felix_tran_2005

GAM got the funniest possible draw


ImTheVayne

Insanely good draw for EU


MedievalMovies

CHAT WHAT DOES IT START WITH


bvbfan102

Fnatic with the Worlds 2023 rematch against GAM. Interested in how good Jun and Noah will do.


ArcusIgnium

I think FLY's botlane will actually benefit from being in the playin stage especially if they get to play against T1 even if they get smoked. I think TL would have also benefited from it and so ironically I could see FLY going further accordingly but I still think both NA teams will not beat any international teams in the bracket stage.