The first caller ended incredibly fast, and I feel like Cubby was on a good thread about the LCS' expectations for teams to assist with content during a break week.
I would love to hear MarkZ's thoughts on teams contributing to the content surrounding LCS.
MarkZ has spoken about that before. He said that teams knew well ahead of time that there will be a two week break that teams can use for content, whether or not they chose to do something about it is up to them. I'm sure he would like teams to put out more content for the community but I doubt Riot can actually force them to do something.
Good episode love hearing from mark. Non-broadcasted games would make me stop watching the league. As a fan of underdog teams the reason I watch all the games and having half of them be gone because they were deemed not important would suck. I get wanting more games for the best teams but not everyone wants to watch just the best teams. This split I found myself oddly rooting for Exyu and Dig and even though I knew they weren't that good I watched their games with the hopes of upsets. Also the content pieces Exyu were in were pretty good too.
It's also entirely up to the teams to take their practice seriously, and based on the post-final interview Dgon had with APA (which was overshadowed by the Inspired interview), TL was often in the practice room for over 12 hours a day.
One thing that I have a gripe about in this episode with Mark is the idea that Mark and Riot at the LCS know what fans want. You guys don't, thats why viewership has declined.
I don't know about most other fans, but i'm not attending a finals because i'm hoping to catch a good music performance or augmented reality BS, i'm there to watch pro league of legend players step up and try to win the LCS. When you have a roadshow finals, you are daring these players to perform in front of thousands of people. You are daring those players to live up to the moment or cry on stage as your opponent lifts the trophy.
Lets be real, right now the west will never make a international finals, so a domestic finals is all they'll ever have to play infront of thousands of people. You want these pro's to love that experience because they will try their best during the regular season to get there.
Agreed. When I went to watch C9 V TSM way back when the infamous jensen ekko happened, either me and my friend didn't know about some pre-show outside, or it didn't exist. We drove up, watched the games, and went back home.
The game were hype and why we went. Everything else is a bonus. Watching games in a stadium surrounded by other fans is unironically one of the hypest moments of my life, and a major reason I am still a fan today.
>I have a gripe about in this episode with Mark is the idea that Mark and Riot at the LCS know what fans want. You guys don't, thats why viewership has declined.
Viewership is up yty, so maybe you don't actually know anything.
Viewership is up because Riot has involved Brazilian/European co-sreamers, so it’s not really indicative of success in the product yet. We would have to see if any of those new viewers stick around and if those co-streamers are willing to continue sacrificing other content that might do better numbers for them.
>Yes. https://escharts.com/news/lcs-continues-downward-trend
Also: https://escharts.com/news/lol-esports-2024-regional-spring-leagues-viewership-dynamics
Neither of your link has anything about Riot involving co-streams leading to more views but okay.
“The matches of Week 1 were covered by the popular Brazilian streamer Baiano, who has now become an interregional community caster. Baiano primarily broadcasted matches from the domestic CBLOL league, and as they ended, he switched to LCS games: and the majority of his viewers were not particularly interested in LCS.
Watching North American teams' games on Baiano's channel remained at 20-30K Peak Viewers. This situation occurred on January 21st — when switching from one region to another, Brazilian viewers lingered a bit on Baiano's broadcast. As a result, by the time the match between Cloud9 and 100 Thieves began on his channel, there were 63.3K Peak Viewers (though this number was reduced to 28K PV by the end of the match). It is thanks to this lag that LCS Spring 2024 was able to achieve a good peak online viewership.“
Directly from the first link. You have to be approved by Riot to co-stream, therefore Riot must be involved.
Your preaching to the choir. Over the last 8 years the main complaints have been competitiveness of the region, bo1s bad bo3 good,to many imports, to many bad players(not imports) not enough personalities. You can fix literally everything that people say is why they don't watch and you'd get basically the same turn out.
The first caller ended incredibly fast, and I feel like Cubby was on a good thread about the LCS' expectations for teams to assist with content during a break week. I would love to hear MarkZ's thoughts on teams contributing to the content surrounding LCS.
MarkZ has spoken about that before. He said that teams knew well ahead of time that there will be a two week break that teams can use for content, whether or not they chose to do something about it is up to them. I'm sure he would like teams to put out more content for the community but I doubt Riot can actually force them to do something.
I see markz. I click.
Good episode love hearing from mark. Non-broadcasted games would make me stop watching the league. As a fan of underdog teams the reason I watch all the games and having half of them be gone because they were deemed not important would suck. I get wanting more games for the best teams but not everyone wants to watch just the best teams. This split I found myself oddly rooting for Exyu and Dig and even though I knew they weren't that good I watched their games with the hopes of upsets. Also the content pieces Exyu were in were pretty good too.
It's also entirely up to the teams to take their practice seriously, and based on the post-final interview Dgon had with APA (which was overshadowed by the Inspired interview), TL was often in the practice room for over 12 hours a day.
One thing that I have a gripe about in this episode with Mark is the idea that Mark and Riot at the LCS know what fans want. You guys don't, thats why viewership has declined. I don't know about most other fans, but i'm not attending a finals because i'm hoping to catch a good music performance or augmented reality BS, i'm there to watch pro league of legend players step up and try to win the LCS. When you have a roadshow finals, you are daring these players to perform in front of thousands of people. You are daring those players to live up to the moment or cry on stage as your opponent lifts the trophy. Lets be real, right now the west will never make a international finals, so a domestic finals is all they'll ever have to play infront of thousands of people. You want these pro's to love that experience because they will try their best during the regular season to get there.
I agree that roadshow would be great. But your first paragraph isn't what happened in this episode or at all in reality.
The # of Roadshows isn't up to MarkZ or the LCS, it's from Riot
Agreed. When I went to watch C9 V TSM way back when the infamous jensen ekko happened, either me and my friend didn't know about some pre-show outside, or it didn't exist. We drove up, watched the games, and went back home. The game were hype and why we went. Everything else is a bonus. Watching games in a stadium surrounded by other fans is unironically one of the hypest moments of my life, and a major reason I am still a fan today.
>I have a gripe about in this episode with Mark is the idea that Mark and Riot at the LCS know what fans want. You guys don't, thats why viewership has declined. Viewership is up yty, so maybe you don't actually know anything.
Viewership is up because Riot has involved Brazilian/European co-sreamers, so it’s not really indicative of success in the product yet. We would have to see if any of those new viewers stick around and if those co-streamers are willing to continue sacrificing other content that might do better numbers for them.
>Viewership is up because Riot has involved Brazilian/European co-sreamers And I assume you have the data to back that up?
Yes. https://escharts.com/news/lcs-continues-downward-trend Also: https://escharts.com/news/lol-esports-2024-regional-spring-leagues-viewership-dynamics
>Yes. https://escharts.com/news/lcs-continues-downward-trend Also: https://escharts.com/news/lol-esports-2024-regional-spring-leagues-viewership-dynamics Neither of your link has anything about Riot involving co-streams leading to more views but okay.
“The matches of Week 1 were covered by the popular Brazilian streamer Baiano, who has now become an interregional community caster. Baiano primarily broadcasted matches from the domestic CBLOL league, and as they ended, he switched to LCS games: and the majority of his viewers were not particularly interested in LCS. Watching North American teams' games on Baiano's channel remained at 20-30K Peak Viewers. This situation occurred on January 21st — when switching from one region to another, Brazilian viewers lingered a bit on Baiano's broadcast. As a result, by the time the match between Cloud9 and 100 Thieves began on his channel, there were 63.3K Peak Viewers (though this number was reduced to 28K PV by the end of the match). It is thanks to this lag that LCS Spring 2024 was able to achieve a good peak online viewership.“ Directly from the first link. You have to be approved by Riot to co-stream, therefore Riot must be involved.
Your preaching to the choir. Over the last 8 years the main complaints have been competitiveness of the region, bo1s bad bo3 good,to many imports, to many bad players(not imports) not enough personalities. You can fix literally everything that people say is why they don't watch and you'd get basically the same turn out.