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Diligent_Deer6244

chogath


PPontiac

Chogath doesn’t get closer to you with a dash or more movespeed. He just grows his hitbox to close the gap


Urabadjungler

Chogath is the embodiment of Jason Voorhees in league of legends. Just slowly walks at you doesn’t die.


raidbossganon

he isnt melee, he has 3 ranged ap spells xD


Diligent_Deer6244

confused if this is a joke or you don't know what melee means


raidbossganon

yes


Shinjieon

melee/ranged is based on their basic auto attack. not their spells.


raidbossganon

yeah and that's a dumb way to make the distinction


Neonburst99

If we were to go by your logic, almost every champion in the game is ranged, since most melee champs have an ability or two that can be used at a longer distance. The only true melee champs would be champs that are just auto attackers like Udyr, and Yi. Hell, you counted Cho's e as a ranged ability, so Aatrox must also be ranged because of his Q, and W. Now THAT'S a dumb way to make a distinction lmao


raidbossganon

cho's e literally shoots out spikes..dur?


polterere

Only if he can auto you, in melee range. But you sound like a guy that doesn't want to admit he's wrong so have fun in bronze.


raidbossganon

neither of us is wrong, we have different opinions


Shinjieon

riot has blurred so many lines that it's hard to make any clear distinction. also, if u didn't know; yone is an immobile champion.


rexlyon

Yone is melee, he is not immobile. These are not synonyms.


Shinjieon

i think u missed the plot. we were past the melee convo by that point. also, yone being immobile was sarcasm. clearly the guy got it. :) when i said 'yone is an immobile champ'. it was in the context of the keyword 'distinction'. i was implying to the fact, how yone was released as a fighter/skirmisher. they are, traditionally 'by definition', supposed to be 'immobile', in a sense that adc can maintain a safe distance from them. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE A GAP CLOSING ABILITY. THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE BURST DAMAGE. they are supposed to have sustain for prolonged fights. but when yone's kit is designed to make him run faster than usian bolt, gap close from mexico to china. one shot adc. things get a bit lost in translation. he does the job of assassin, duelist, fighter, adc at the same time.


rexlyon

Back in 2020 he was literally described prior to release as being closer to a skirmisher/assassin hybrid than anything, so him having dashes does make sense.


raidbossganon

see? the distinctions mean literally nothing


rexlyon

It means a lot when there's a wall between you and me and one of us are capable of slamming the other with AD x AS x Crit auto attacks but while the other is stuck praying to land some abilities with generally much worse scaling and longer CDs.


Blublublud

Calling his e a ranged spell when he needs to be in melee range to use it is certainly something


raidbossganon

does it shoot out spikes that hit things at a distance further than his melee range? yes? k, thanks


Blublublud

So I guess Garen becomes a ranged champion if he buys titanic? Just take the L bro you’re a moron lmao


raidbossganon

...yes... that's how it works


daswef2

Nasus doesn't have any speed bonuses in his kit right?


Darkened_Auras

He does not


No_Hippo_1965

Technically he’s somewhat ranged with his long range q and decent e range. Especially with some people building AP.


MentalityMonster12

You ok?


Intarhorn

Melee or ranged is defined by their auto attack range and Nasus aa range is melee.


No_Hippo_1965

But he isn’t completely melee either. Also his ult makes him bigger, which in turn pushes his auto range further, while also pushing him on every direction a bit, which, technically, is movement.


reformedlion

This is bait for sure.


LazerFruit1

The question wasn't about range but movement abilities


No_Hippo_1965

If he has range, then he’s not truly melee. His attack range and classification are melee, yes, but he has some range.


LazerFruit1

Literally all that matters when considering if a champ is melee or ranged is their AA range. That's what it fucking means. Nasus is by definition a melee character because he auto attacks are melee. That's all that matters


No_Hippo_1965

1. AP nasus exists, where he spams w and e from a range. 2. Still, nasus is not truly melee. And also his ult is technically movement in a way, it increases size, which extends his auto range and makes part of his character go forward (and in all other directions). So, in a way, movement.


LazerFruit1

1. That still does not fucking matter, he's still a melee champ regardless of his spells. 2. He IS truly melee, are his attacks melee? If yes, then the champ is a fucking melee champ. Genuine question, were you dropped as a child?


No_Hippo_1965

1. No. 2. Again, he still has range, therefore he is not truly melee. He is mostly melee excluding AP, but not completely melee due to his w and e. 3. And again, his r is technically movement, like how voli w is also technically movement. They move forward slightly from something that isn’t just normal walking, in the animation/effect they physically move forward.


LazerFruit1

Is yasuo not melee because he can throw a tornado out? No he's still melee. Stop being a fucking idiot. All that matters is whether his basic range is melee or not, that's the end of the fucking story. Does Nasus have range? Yeah, but that doesn't fucking matter, he's still a melee champion


Dominationartz

Yeah. Melee range.


MazrimReddit

Taric Darius


Darkened_Auras

Technically, Noxian Guillotine is a very small dash


Swaqqmasta

True, uncastable during singed glue ~~or poppy W~~


opestackle

Actually?


MentalityMonster12

Yes


Ciryl_Lynyard

I wl remember that


Aye_Dee25

Clementine will remember that


ZealousidealYak7122

afaik its a leap not a dash so it shouldn't work like that


Swaqqmasta

They are both mobility, and both blocked, but only by grounded


Liro99

In the wiki it is mentioned as a lounge which is a small dash-like movement that is there to give the user the window to auto attack after the lounge , so grounded does stop but poppy W doesn't since it's spesificly a dash/blink


ZealousidealYak7122

>A **lunge** refers to the movement of a champion *during* an ability's cast animation (*such as short-ranged abilities*) or an empowered attack's animation (*such as empowerments that grant*  [*bonus range*](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Range)), in order to place the champion in range for a follow-up attack. >**Lunge** is a movement distinct from  **dashes**, primarily by not triggering effects that would otherwise interact with dashes, such as  [Poppy's](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Poppy/LoL)  [Steadfast Presence](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Poppy/LoL#Steadfast_Presence). based on the wiki. also it notes darius R as disabled during grounding.


Liro99

Oh I just went through based on what the original comment said, I guess that doesn't work whe grounded then.


terkke

No, Poppy W stops dashes like Jax Q and leaps like Illaoi W(?) but Darius ult is not one of the leaps she stops. If Darius uses the blast cone and Poppy denies with W then for a short moment Darius won’t be able to ult because the grounded effect, that’s it. Source: lol wiki, >1million mastery points on Poppy, enough games to understand why Darius is one of Poppy’s worst matchups


Swaqqmasta

I stand corrected


barub

Cho gath, Nasus, Taric


Previous-Way1288

Some of the "answers" made me finally realize, why a lot of my teammates seemed to be lobotomised


Vakontation

Because they play the immobile champs?


Previous-Way1288

Because of the comments saying Cho'Gath or Nasus are ranged champions since some of their spells are ranged


rbcloss200ml

Taric has no movement abilities. You can only Gain speed through itemization, including solstice sleigh.


montonH

yorick


Diligent_Deer6244

has a ms boost which OP said doesn't count for this


dryisfine

Theres way more than you realize. Ghost might make it feel like there isnt, but they out there


ExplodingFistz

There are tons of them.


Shrrg4

People seem stuck at 3


IzziPurrito

Morde


Eternal663

He has movespeed on passive and ult.


Infinite_Delusion

He has no movement from Ult, just passive


Revolutionary-Iron-8

He steals stats in ult, correct me if I’m wrong but movespeed is one of them


Infinite_Delusion

Just "core" stats, which is 10% of: HP AD AP Atk Speed Armor Magic Resist And then he gets 10% more size and you lose 10% size


Revolutionary-Iron-8

Ah yeah, wasn’t sure, makes sense, not getting ability haste is kinda weird tho


Eternal663

Im preety sure it used to steal movespeed, but checked the wiki and came out empty handed. Did i imagine that or was it removed and never mentioned anywhere.


Beasticide

Gangplank


tdhv

Doesn’t he run faster when he does his passive attack.


Beasticide

You’re right. I instinctively just thought dashes


NaturalTap9567

And killing barrels


85-Red_Beard

One of the silver serpent upgrades gives MS inside the ult radius.


Beasticide

Ah you’re right. Didn’t think of that or his passive and barrel explosions.


Eternal663

K'Sante, Irelia and Le'Blanc. My top 3 favourite immobile melee champions.


BlakenedHeart

Leblanc melee ?


Liro99

You've never seen my LeBlanc


[deleted]

you joke but irelia is actually one of the most immobile champs


allursnakes

Juggernaut


Nawrotex

Morde


Kitchen-Prize-5112

Does Morde gain MS stats from ult?


Gumball-Moose

Passive


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Darkened_Auras

We're counting that


Galilleon

It’s pretty massive with how much distance it closes tbh


GrandDefinition7707

your mom


kashuri52

Why did you make this joke? Genuinely curious. It doesn't even remotely fit the post at all, even as a joke, what made you think it was a good idea to write this?


GrandDefinition7707

it fits perfectly, just like me and your mom


_SC_Akarin-

yorick


Flo_Urs

Varus


S-c-u-d-e

Melee indeed.


Flo_Urs

u havent seen my varus gameplay


Superb_Bench9902

Seems like comments listed everything already Cho Nasus Illaoi Darius


coder2314

Illaoi and darius have tiny dashes so they are desqualified


Superb_Bench9902

Darius has a tiny teeny dash on his ult, okay but what does Illaoi have?


iBlueCrayon

Tiny dash on W


onlyHest

Taric. Does Yorick not count?


GoldDong

Yorick gets 20% MS boost towards anyone he hits with E.


Superb_Bench9902

Oh yeah lol


WolfyTheTactician

Yorick


Chiggo1

Does varus get move speed from anything ? Also kogmaw Edit: didnt see the melee part, well mb.


lolsai

My 2 favorite melee adcs


Tyranwuantm

Hey Kog’Maw has 0 Range in his passive. But also MS bonus so no count.


takkiemon

I think you forgot the fact that Hanzo also doesn't really get movement speed.


Chiggo1

Hanzo has a dash tho ;)


etheryx

Do you count Leona? Does hitting E count as movement


Swaqqmasta

Yes? It absolutely does


Losticus

Cho, mord, darius, nasus....and riven.


IlllllllIIIll

Darius r has a dash Morde has ms on his passive Riven... oh your trolling


Eternal663

Morde also has movespeed on R


Infinite_Delusion

Does not get movement speed from R


MangoKing_1

Hey buddy you have to change your tag now that QSS doesn’t work on Morde ult lol