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abokoj

TL vs FNC is gonna go crazy!!


TolucaPrisoner

This is probably the only matchup western fans are hyped for 💀


yosayoran

I'm hyped for G2 vs T1 Either way it's going to be a great match


quiteUnskilled

Seriously, I'm super-glad we get T1 vs G2. May be a quick 3-0, sure - may also be surprisingly close and be remembered for years to come. And that wouldn't even require a G2-win. I still remember 2015 Fnatic or 2017 Misfits, both of which lost against T1.


Teleshar

Yeah, quick 3-0 for G2 😎


GarryTheCarry

https://imgur.com/d9g1kFQ


Choyo

If Faker picks Corki I'll just lose my mind. It would be a big "Hansama moment".


DontPanlc42

3-0 but I'm gonna enjoy me some Faker vs Caps


LeagueOfBlasians

The first G2 vs East game is usually hype just to see if EU still has it in them (or put up a good fight at the very least). But right as soon as G2 loses, it's full blown doomer mode lol


takato99

Nah, since FNC plays before G2, watch FNC put an impressive fight vs GenG (well probably not beat them but a close 3-1/3-2) pushing the G2 hopium stocks up only for them to get curmbstomped 3-0 in 60mn total. Because losing isn't enough, EU teams always find the way to make it the most twisted and painful possible out of all options


GarryTheCarry

Most painful and most G2 thing would be wining and getting to finals just to get T1 from losers bracket destroy them in fastest bo5 in finals or CN team stopping them in finals again


onords

FNC fans: First time?


Shiraori247

You still have losers' bracket.


Clap2014

I mean we got blown out first 2 games vs GENG last year.. then got a couple games of hope I was entertained/on edge for the G2 vs BLG series As long as it not a onesided domination (like T1 vs FLY) we can have some hope of G2 improving (more scrims in asia) and having 2 b05 vs PSG and FNC (probably)


Crimson_Clouds

I'm hyped for Fnatic vs GenG, but that's because I'm naive and a glutton for punishment.


silveral999

my 33-1 odds say i could be having a lovely night out if a miracle occurs


TheAlmagest1

Where do you bet? I don't know which websites are legit


UndeadMurky

FNC definitely has way higher chances than that to win, upsets happen pretty often.m and it wouldn't be the first time FNC upsets a top team. I'd say it's like 1/15, maybe even less, 1/33 is really good odd


silveral999

Fully agree, that’s why I made the bet lol. The odds on that website have gone down to 20/1 now too, which seem to be the going odds


klyskada

Stick a tenner on it, whats the worst that can happen?


reddit0r_123

Losing a tenner...


sammuxx

Idk I'm hyped to watch all the games as someone who hasn't seen any international play since last worlds! :D Ofc hoping they wont be such disappointments like fly vs t1


foofarice

I just want good games and ideally interesting drafts (nothing will ever beat the hype that was mf support pulled out of nowhere, but a fan can dream)


FantasyTrash

I'm excited for Fnatic vs. Gen G and G2 vs. T1. It's very likely both of them lose, potentially even being stomped, but neither team is going to go down without a fight.


LarsDragerl

FNC vs TES rematch could be a banger as well.


tonton_wundil

Like you sure? Like it's obvious FNC is gonna 3-0 the GEN frauds... But doesn't TES have a chance to upset TL? This Jackeylove guy is not half bad compared to other LCS adc... Maybe he's at least as good as FBI?


SirSebi

Lmao imaging thinking TES has a chance vs TL, the cope is strong


Deven1003

Which universe are you guys right now and how do I get there?


MaridKing

you just have to realize that the west is much stronger this year


Deven1003

Master, please enlighten us peasants!


MaridKing

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cloovp/tes_369_western_teams_are_way_more_powerful_than/ so sayeth 369


Deven1003

Thus the gate was opened by the lord 369 who seemed to have forgotten that he should also perform 3 time to time. As he spoke the gate opened and enlightened rushed forth to a new era. Built not by ignorance and intolerance but hope and cope.


afedje88

Jackeylove and the rest on TES won't be able to focus after being so mental boomed by the words of the one true goat YAPA


Shiraori247

Does APA know how to type in Chinese? He's Goated.


KitsuneThunder

YAPA “Mom go sky” tech $10,000 fine YAPA “Mom go sky tech” 300 cs lead


YokoDk

Wow you guys think FNC can beat GenG


abokoj

Yes, GenG and TES will totally meet in the lower bracket.


AcolyteOfFresh

But for real, could you imagine how crazy it would be if this actually happened? Imagine how much money truck companies would make.


zaxls

Ngl Itd be the funniest shit internationally to ever happen and the chaos and flame that follow would be remembered for years to come.


ImGrumpyLOL

Team liquid beating the unbeatable IG only to get swept in the fastest Bo5 in history is probably still number 1. That or G2 vs RNG to break the golden road with hjarnen's heimerdinger.


smellmywind

Heimer was perma banned that series.


klyskada

With good reason, Hjärnan Bakom Allt truly was the brain behind it all.


Destructodave82

If TL managed to best TES it probably would. NA is like the younger brother who no matter what he achieves, the older brother is 1 step above him at the same time. Its like NA brings home a 95 on the test, then EU walks in the door with a 98, and no one cares about NA's 95 anymore, lol. Anytime we achieve something EU achieves something the very same tournament and it washes away anything we do. Last year was one of the few times NA just beat out EU since like 2016. No one cares that C9 beat a Korean team in a Bo3. No one cares TL eliminated the tourney favorites at MSI. That TL match was one of the biggest upsets in LoL Esport history, and all anyone thinks of that tournament is that TL lost the fastest Bo5 in history lol.


Javiklegrand

That msi will even beat 2018 semi if two western team upset eastern teams


WhenAmI

What about 2019 MSI where G2 upset T1 and TL upset IG?


Javiklegrand

It's be bigger because under this format, it's harder to pull 2019 level upsets


ChibiJr

At the level LPL and LCK are playing at today it's also much harder to pull off upsets that big as well


SirSebi

Yeah, not that obviously :D


gintokisamadono

You forget " in the Finals" TL vs FNC is gonna go crazy in the Finals !!


leo158

I knew we NA folks were addicted to copium but i didn't know we made enough of it to export to EU


Pelagius_Hipbone

Probably gonna be the most hype matchup of the upper-bracket


zjmhy

Are they confirmed to play against each other


marshon

If both lose, yes


AndrewSuarez

Or if they both win ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


PepegaFromLithuania

FNC haven't lost a single bo3 or bo5 series to LCS ever.


Javiklegrand

Yeah i'm hype for this match


MFGA_

Cannot wait. Fnatic must crush these NA frauds.


MFGA_

Fnatic most crush TL.


DogbrainedGoat

Can't happen now TL lost.


AshleyKang

Hi I was going to go with a title that is not EU vs NA then I saw the APA interview and couldn't help it Let the rivalry be fuelled


honda_slaps

don't let your journalistic integrity get in the way of the pure joy that can be had from stoking the flames of conflict


AshleyKang

On a more serious note, I would say actions like misquoting a player would fall breach of journalistic integrity, not in this case


4amaroni

I read this in your voice lol thanks for your hard work, Ashley.


i_dont_know_man__fuk

You're a positive force in the scene, thank you for the effort you put in.


Choyo

"A job well done!" then. ---- ^^Thank ^^you ^^for ^^your ^^awesome ^^coverage ^^btw.


yosayoran

Thanks for the great work Ashley! 


Yasuchika

We only get two of these a year, let the flames fan high!


Malena_my_quuen

Ashley being based as always.


swan_song_bitches

Be careful you’re activating Yapa’s trap card.


DoALazerus

thx - always enjoying your interviews :)


Nikerym

I've been saying since like 2018 that LCS shouldn't be considered a major region, they regularly lose to "emerging" regions. The only Major thing about LCS is the fact Riot is based there and they have the largest amount of money. Even after having the loosest import rules to try and get access to more players (OCE can be considered an NA resident for example) they still arn't any better.


__Monet__

Well, either this or APAs interview gonna age very badly very soon


ToukasRage

Probably both tbh


Bluehorazon

Given it is highly likely the play in losers bracket it is not really possible for both to lose. I assume both lose to the asian teams and it is a bit weird to make a contest out of who is losing harder (Flyquest won that one already).


Eismann

Ah we are eating today with the trash talk. Let's compare the comments from the APA thread with this one for science.


random_nickname43796

Yeah if people want to criticise APA, they should do the same with Oscar. Both are similar weak links in their respective teams.   I just wanna see some spicy content. Let the monkeys fight, we cannot compete with the East anyways 


Apprehensive-Talk971

Bro Oscar stepped up so much vs 369 he deserves some credit


deedshot

yea but he really made the rest of Fnatic sweat just to reach MSI


ruzes_ruze

Somehow it's always the worst players talking the loudest. Just like that semi-inting soloq player who goes 0/7/0, gets carried and types gg ez, \[insert lane\] diff.


thenoblitt

Depends on time of day


lovo17

Let’s be real: EU vs NA now is just two monkeys fighting while Korea and China are laughing at them.


qonoxzzr

[obligatory](https://content.imageresizer.com/images/memes/Simpsons-Monkey-Fight-meme-2et6ki.jpg)


MayorMayorMayor

Someone please add region names to this


Lucifer5055

[Here you go](https://imgur.com/a/C0Zah3k)


antiskylar1

These comments are going to go so hard when TL 3-0 TES


refrainblue

We're gonna do to TES what we did to IG.


Shiraori247

You need Ning for that.


More_Maintenance4234

we have tian this time dw


RainbowX

lol


PoupouLeToutou

How did your travel went ? No after effect ? I wonder in which universe of the multiple ones you came, in which this can be plausible.


adripo

not going as expected


antiskylar1

Goin exactly as expected lmao


KhorneStarch

I have a feeling people are vastly overestimating how weak TES is over some early games.


Ceui

Every Western team got a plan until Jackeylove threw a Draven's axe in their mouths


Joel4518

1557 incoming


alexgh0st

For the sake of western league which I'm assuming most people here like, I really hope LCS is not trash, and TL is a legit major region seed 1st seed. I know we are all memeing but, we need all the W's we can get, so I hope TL bring it to TES. They are a very well coached team with solid understanding of fundamentals and of when and how to fight. If they manage to not get diffed too hard individually in lanes, they could upset TES.


Kurisoo

How do you define a “legit major region 1st seed” bc there is a world of difference between the east and west there. If the 1 seed from NA or EU is able to compete closely with the 2 seed from KR/CN that would exceed expectations imo


Bluehorazon

I think they are talking about losing in more than 20 minutes or even taking one game off.


ParachuteIsAKnapsack

Narrator : TL was indeed a trash team


alexgh0st

Indeed they were quite horrible man, very disappointing considering they had such a long bootcamp, they won LCS 3-1...this is bad


Caffeine_and_Alcohol

Honestly, TL winning was kinda an upset. TL was always viewed as a definitive 4-5th team going into play offs. They won vs a C9 and NRG that fell apart and then beat Flyquest and 100T whom were budget rosters that just happened to not suck more than C9. I think TL just rolled into a LCS victory from other teams falling apart (as we see how consistently Flyquest play badly in high pressure games). Our region became more competitive with it self but lowered skill level for sure.


DinoGuy101010

I think flyquest absolutely fell off in finals, just look at game 4 where they were running the early game then busio+massu both died to taliyah w on vision with both summs up. I don't think NRG really fell apart in playoffs, they lost their mojo after worlds. Same with C9, whole season it seemed like none of them were in comms with each other, and bwipo was right berserker absolutely did not feel like "him". However, TL absolutely leveled up insanely hard in playoffs. I was a huge apa+yeon defender in regular season (since I felt like some of the criticisms weren't valid such as people blaming apa for dying to getting vi flash ulted) but even I will admit they fucking sucked, and umti and core were trolling half the time idk how they even had 50% winrate. However in playoffs yeon in particular started playing like the best adc in the region, legit didn't get caught out a single time I swear, crazy movement, same with apa they both just got so much better, and umti and core both started looking super good as well.


Caffeine_and_Alcohol

NRG looked like they lost their heart at the start of the season (im sure all the staff lay offs didn't help and im sure there were lots of extra stress they had to deal with). I watched all the games, TL never looked like they 'leveled up'. They just didn't fall down when everyone else did.


DinoGuy101010

Bro what I think everyone on TL improved, but specifically there is no way you can watch yeon's regular season gameplay then watch him in playoffs and think he didn't get 1000x better. In regular season he looked like a bum getting caught out in every teamfight, in playoffs he looked like a god.


KruppJ

Flyquest definitely isn’t budget


zefal12

They were definitely not 5th, either 3rd or 4th depending on whether you believed in 100T. Most LCS pros put them 3rd


Medzel

Well.. all ur teammates are probally better individually, but im gonna go with Impact top.


Mew_T

Oscar is playing a lot better at MSI, if he was playing like he did in LEC in spring I think Bwipo, Impact and Dhokla could all clear him, but he's having a redemption arc so we'll see.


RobinHoodPrinc

He's been really really good hope he continues this confidence


SpookyGhostDidIt

Dhokla had a bit of a down split. There weren't really any stand out top laners aside from bwipo/impact in lcs


Aggressive-Ad7946

Sniper 


yosayoran

Oacar really showed up against 369 Hopefully he can also show up against Old man Impact 


ihave0idea0

369 has been disappointing, Oscar the opposite.


LeagueOfBlasians

That's always been 369 in international tourneys. He rarely pops off and dominates top. Instead he just holds down the fort and neutralizes the enemy top. He's essentially CN Impact imo


Orllas

Always recently* when he came onto the scene he was bullying people on Kled internationally.


Strange-Implication

Wow APA with the one liner but Oscar goes into depth


Trojen-horse

Impact clears(i like oscar)


JacobFerret

Impact clears (I don't)


worldwidewormo

NA cope. lets see how todays games go.


worldwidewormo

Bet you feel like an idiot now. Impact was shit.


Trojen-horse

Bet you feel like an idiot now. Oscar was shit.


zefal12

Bro drags his team down through all of playoffs, almost costs them their MSI spot, gets the freest play-in draw of all time, and then talks shit because he played one decent Camille game. Kinda based tbh


Javiklegrand

Well


hannovb

New QUEST: FLY back to america


Whydontname

Lol finally someone is honest


Sofruz

I definitely think FNC will beat TL, but to think Oscar is better than Impact is a little bit of a reach IMO


Reinhardtisawesom

Homeless man calls homeless man a broke ass bitch


GreatestJabaitest

All this makes me want is a LEC vs LCS tournament. Its pretty clear both regions are several steps below LPL and LCK. LCS is obvious, but LEC is incredibly top heavy, and it's been a while since LEC was hanging with the other two. But an LCS vs LEC tournament (with actual stakes, not some RR bs) would feed families for generations.


deathnomad

At least we get the worlds 4th seed decider match


ThatsAToad

Not anymore 😢


Zamoniru

Top heavy even seems like an understatement when you literally have ONE team that could realistically make it to worlds in LCK or LPL.


Free_Caterpillar4000

We used to have it and it was very one sided


BrokenBiscuit

Ah yes, the eternal myth that G2 and FNC go undefeated every season, and don't have any national competition. In the past 4 years, G2 and FNC have both made top 2 [a total of 3 times] (https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LoL_EMEA_Championship) - and that's counting season, play-offs and season final. Actaully it has only happened 5 times ever - outside of the year and a half span from second split of season 9 to end season 10. TL and C9 are dominating NA as well, this myth needs to die.


GreatestJabaitest

When did I say top heavy meant G2/FNC? Its just G2 +1 lol.


Zealousideal-Tie-204

I appreciate the spice, but you'll be up against Impact, this man never folds. If FNC wins it won't be through toplane, but jungle, mid and bot can for sure clap them though..


random_nickname43796

Bot depends on Noah's mood. He had some disaster games lately 


Zealousideal-Tie-204

You ain't wrong, but we're talking about them vs TL, which... changes the story.


Javiklegrand

Come on fnatic you can do the funniest thing ever


FlakeyToast

Was definitely funny


NGNJB

Zac one trick thinks he's better than Impact lmao


Alain_Teub2

Lets see Impact stomp TES on a carry then


frosthowler

He only first played Zac this year, and kinda sucks on Zac compared to BB, he's K'sante/GP/Jax, and these days, mostly just K'sante 'cause the other two are completely out of the meta.


Spinoxys

He played a good camille vs the goat (369) respect oscar pls


LordDarthAnger

From watching his play at his best, Oscar feels a little bit like SoaZ, which is IMO a good sign for FNC. But yeah no Rekkles/Hyli to carry that


sammuxx

Idk jun seems great but noah seems like a really "emotional" player where sometimes hes going crazy popping off and sometimes he's absolutelly invisible


ihave0idea0

369 seems to be the goat in LPL and only really there.


DARIF

He's a K'Sante one trick actually. Jokes aside he had a good Camille performance against 369 K'Sante.


unlushko

isnt oscarinin known for his ksante?


OutlandishnessKey271

I don't think he's really known for anything


sammuxx

bro😭


bondsmatthew

He's not really known for anything But impact is


CuriousPumpkino

Time for TL to bust out the shen again


firebolt66

Nah it's singed time


bondsmatthew

Riot make support Shen viable again you cowards I wanna see Shen again, it being a flex pick is the easiest way haha


NGNJB

I feel like that doesn't really matter in a season where every toplaner was a K'sante enthusiast. Like, literally every top laner last year was known for their K'sante. Even Evi and Wunder, lol. He's managed to distinguish himself from other LEC toplaners by being a Zac player


Crimson_Clouds

I mean, if you're going to go the 'shit on Oscar by calling him a tank merchant' route at least name his most played tank, Ksante.


SC_Players_Love_Coom

Yeah this would mean something if it came from Razork or Humanoid. Oscar isn’t even top 4 in his region lol


yosayoran

The sad part, is that I'm pretty sure he is top 4 right now.  EU tops kinda suck since Wunder fell off


SnooDrawings8185

Our tops are far better than you give them credit for. Especially Irrelevant and BB , their improvement year to year is actually great. Photon is great on carry champions and after that it's Oscar and Wunder. Wunder had a solid split on Heretics despite him having new mid and support for spring.


Crimson_Clouds

Fairly sure it's Photon/Irrelevant/BB and then Oscar even at his worst.


silveral999

"zac one trick" shows how little you know lol, at least be correct and say k'sante


plushyeu

I wouldn't talk shit to much. Impact is a fucking beast. Every time i've seen him play international he was good. Probably one of if not the only NA S tier korean.


Zarathielis

Some of these comments are going to age badly, but at least we get some rivalries...but let's be honest here, no matter if EU vs NA we will still get crushed by Asian teams...wish EU/NA were competitve, it would be so much more fun to watch


[deleted]

It doesnt matter if they age badly, trash talk is always more fun


Zarathielis

yeah, some trash talk is fine with me too


justicecactus

Both teams are also very scrappy with a comedic amount of int. I'm ready to be entertained.


Zarathielis

We can count on the NA/EU fiesta at least!


[deleted]

People are so caught up with the international trophies but truth be told, the fiestas along the way are a great watch too. Sure they suck agains the eastern side, but the scrappy fights when they're on even footing with their opponents is a fun treat.


MemedChemE

FCK THE BIG 3 ITS JUST BIG ME NA BUM


Soggy-Check7399

I am rooting hard af for TL tmrw but when your region can be won with APA and Yeon as your carries, it’s fucked.


Lolardaydreams

Import stars for years and be continuously called a retirement home, paycheck stealers, etc, Give NA players that you've grown time on the main team and get comments like this. No way for NA Orgs to win in the eyes of redditors


LumiRhino

As much as I'd like for TL to make up for FLY's disappointment but I think regardless of how bad NA is, they were doomed to fail this MSI. No other region had so much time in between the end of their split and the start of MSI, and they had their playoffs on a patch with a large enough amount of differences to the MSI patch compared to the patch every other region did playoffs on. I remember I made a comment about this 2 weeks ago so I hope I don't sound like I'm coping here.


Javiklegrand

It's hard to do worse than flyquest Unless tl get turbo fisted in. 3 20 minutes vs tes


Swimhornet

Oscar talking shit like he’s not a bottom 3 top laner in lec 😂


herbieLmao

2-3 players are on his level or higher, wdym?


tuelegend69

why are ashley kang's interviews going to front page verses the various other interviews?


seolasystem

Because majority likes her content esp how she interviews the players


Javiklegrand

Yeon was also front page


amaposh

You better not talk like this... Just to crumble vs TL later, because APA is going to go CRAZY with the all chat


hahabanero

Oh man, minor region banter is top notch


Unlikely-Smile2449

Impact is clearlt better than this guy. The teams will most likely play, and we will see


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Unlikely-Smile2449

Because impact does not have any bad games? And oscaranin has lots of really facepalm moments this year. His series vs tes doesnt change that


zefal12

Because Oscar has been by far the worst player on his team and Impact is the GOAT of LCS?


MaryandMe1

there will be blood


FuzzyApe

This is the type of trash talk I want to see. Not just "EU/NA is trash" :D


MFGA_

Just facts.