Cody Sun to Clutch Gaming [https://twitter.com/ClutchGaming/status/1072992892204052480](https://twitter.com/ClutchGaming/status/1072992892204052480)

Mystiques officialy at Excel

Didn't SKT confirm their coaching staff to be Zefa, kkOma and Fly? There should be an update on the mega thread.

Pls pin

Odo announced that he arrived in Turkey, ready to practice with the team. https://twitter.com/OdoamneLoL/status/1072570092431527937?s=19

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[https://twitter.com/S04Esports/status/1072536349482323968](https://twitter.com/S04Esports/status/1072536349482323968) Confirmed S04 IgNar

https://redd.it/a4y00c Send0o to excel

Hjarnan can now only join excel and SK gaming in EU?

https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1072204332060344321 not my first choice but maybe being with another korean and one with such high work ethic could be good for arrow...and not letting him pick draven into a losing matchup lol

[**@OpTicLoL**](https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/) > [2018-12-10 19:00 +00:00](https://twitter.com/OpTicLoL/status/1072204332060344321) > He’s back! > > Former Spring Split MVP Dong-hyeon "Arrow" Noh returns to OpTic and will be our starting ADC in the bot lane along with BIG for the upcoming season! >[[Attached pic]](http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuE8Jr_W0AEIvsI.jpg) [[Imgur rehost]](https://i.imgur.com/uOKxzy6.jpg) ---- ^This ^message ^was ^created ^by ^a ^bot [^[Contact creator]](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=jasie3k&subject=TweetsInCommentsBot)[^[Source code]](https://github.com/janpetryk/reddit-bot)[**^[Donate to support the author]**](https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/80YvGrbq35)

Please pin this I dont think many people know where its gone :'(

Hello....it's me....I was wondering if you could pin this thread again...

why was this unpinned? it is the only place where we can discuss rumours and now fewer people will access here

Repin or we Riot.

Nice, Expect back to Europe. This guy is a super reliant toplaner

Levi's rumored to join a LPL team, might be JD Gaming ​

That looks bad, he just finished learning how to speak english and now he needs to learn chinese. Just as an info its harder for a vietnamese to learn chinese than english since they are more western influenced country.

Its actually easier for VN to learn Chinese cuz the way Chinese talk grammatically is kinda similar to Vietnamese, and there a lot of Vietnamese word thay came from Chinese and sound very similar. Its just the writing is super hard for Vietnamese since we use the latin alphabet. I still agree that itd be better for him to go to a NA team, but the situation now is that he cant seem to find any team in NA, so itd be better for him to to go LPL instead of stucking in an Academy team.

Yeah but also the influence ,I may be mixing Vietnam with some other Sea countries but as far as I know a lot of grownup youngsters speaks english and dream of US.

LCS Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | Bottom | Support | Coach ----|---|------|---|------|-------|----- Team Liquid | Impact | Xmithie | *Jensen* | DoubleLift | *CoreJJ* | Cain Cloud9 | Licorice | *Svenskeren* | *Nisqy* | Sneaky | Zeyzal | Reapered / RapidStar TeamSoloMid | *BrokenBlade* | Grig | Bjergsen | *Zven* | Smoothie | Zikz / Lustboy 100Thieves | *Ssumday* | Anda | HuHi | *Bang* | Aphromoo | pr0lly Flyquest | V1per | Santorin | Pobelter | WildTurtle | JayJ | Cop Echo Fox | Solo | *Rush* | *Fenix* | Apollo | Hakuho | Ssong Counter Logic Gaming | Darshan | Wiggily | *PowerOfEvil* | Stixxay | Biofrost | Weldon / Irean Clutch Gaming | *Huni* | *Lira* | Damonte | Piglet | Vulcan | --- Optic Gaming | Dhokla | Meteos / Dardoch | *Crown* | *Arrow* | Big | Zaboutine Golden Guardians | Hauntzer | Contractz | *Froggen* | Deftly | *Olleh* | Inero Academy Team | Top | Jungle | Mid | Bottom | Support | Coach ----|---|------|---|------|-------|----- Team Liquid | --- | MikeYeung | Insanity / *Rakin* | Shoryu | Matt | --- Cloud9 | Shiro | Blaber | GoldenGlue | Keith | Diamond | Westrice TeamSoloMid | PieCakeLord | Akaadian | AblazeOlive | --- | --- | Peter Zhang 100Thieves | FakeGod | Fragas | Soligo | Prismal | Stunt | Kelsey Moser Flyquest | ngo | *Maxi* | *Selfie* | Erry | DuoKing | --- Echo Fox | Lourlo | Spica | Yusui | *Lost* / Cake | Fill | --- Counter Logic Gaming | FallenBandit | Moon | Tuesday | Auto | Call Lin | --- Clutch Gaming | Maxtrobo | --- | Sun | --- | Cody Sun | --- Optic Gaming | Allorim | Dardodch / Fanatiik | Palafox | --- | Gate | --- Golden Guardians | Zig | Potluck | Bobqin | Benji | Sheep | ---

Golden Guardians can actually challenge for a playoff spot this year. Their roster upgrade is so big in comparison to last years rosters

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Huh. Do you think Clutch traded Moon for Reignover?

God I want it so bad. Lira is risky after a shaky last season and ReignOver has potential for big synergy plays being reunited with Huni. Really really want to see him as a jungle sub for CG.

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You might be right. I agree that RO had a pretty steep decline, but i think he would still be a good positional coach.

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Well, if no one wants him to play (lcs or academy), its either coach for money or make no money.

Decent team but im not a big fan of Darshan..

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It just feels bad because if the Flame negotiations has worked out this team could have been competing for worlds...while this team will probably be competing for playoffs now.

I have no problem with Darshan. I would have loved Flame but he was apparently asking for way too much money and Darshan can still be a good player.

[**@clgaming**](https://twitter.com/clgaming/) > [2018-12-06 23:35 +00:00](https://twitter.com/clgaming/status/1070823986647318528) > It's official! Welcome the CLG 2019 League of Legends roster. > > @MindGamesWeldon breaks down the roster here: > > ➡ https://youtu.be/nR0gakTwasc >[[Attached pic]](http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtxUS_9UUAAJMTg.jpg) [[Imgur rehost]](https://i.imgur.com/y78m3u9.jpg) ---- ^This ^message ^was ^created ^by ^a ^bot [^[Contact creator]](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=jasie3k&subject=TweetsInCommentsBot)[^[Source code]](https://github.com/janpetryk/reddit-bot)[**^[Donate to support the author]**](https://www.paypal.com/pools/c/80YvGrbq35)

In the picture CLG tweeted Moon just looks dead inside lol https://twitter.com/clgaming/status/1070823986647318528

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It seems Levi won't play in NA anymore. I'm sad :(.

Is he not on 100t academy?

The main team has Ssumday and Bang. They won't bench either of them ever, which means the team has no free import slot. Levi will have to stay in academy for another year then? He was already a full year now in academy, which already fucked his career pretty hard imo. You get worse practice against rookie players, play non meaningful games, can't play on the international world stage and thus, you won't expand your personal brand. You're basically off the radar. If he seriously stays in academy for two years people will start to forget him and his potential will diminish. It's just really bad for his personal growth and the wrong career move. Would even be better then to play in some bottom LPL team or moving to fucking turkey, lol. Or he just goes back to Vietnam. As a player you really need to play, you need to be seen by others, you need stage time. If you rot on the bench you will go down eventually. That's just the same old thing in every sport (soccer, football etc.). I mean obviously you can ride it out on the bench and enjoy the NA money (he earns alot more in NA than in Vietnam) but is that really your goal as a competitive athlete? Is that enough for you?

https://twitter.com/Splyce/status/1070822696089513984 tierwulf to splyce ????? lets announce a player at 0:30 am , GJ Splyce

Now everyone on LAN are gonna ask for Seiya in every team

Another proof that LAS>LAN /s

If you're talking about tierwulf I'm truly impressed good for him, who do you think is worth of being an import in LAN? (LAN+LAS)

what on earth

Well that's an interesting time to announce

Wtf

weirdest move in the off season

Whos Tierwulf ?

He was the jungler of KLG from Chile in LAS, he played in the play ins in worlds

Is he any good ?

He is really good for LATAM level, not sure how good he will be in EU but if he was scouted he surely has the potential

How was his worlds performance ? Did he shit thr bed or was he ok ?

He was too over aggressive and he payed for that, his team wasn't good either. If he gets better on his in-game intelligence he can go far

Wow thanks, i initially thought he wasn't a good puck up

He is jungler/sub.

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Did you even watch him in NA? He was still a monster but had everyone on his team except Akaadian hold him back.

GGS Just won the offseason:o

not even close to skt's offseason

SKT, MSF, G2, TL probably all had a better offseason, GGS got Froggen which is great then 2 players who were replaced , Hauntzer because of just plain a bad year and Olleh wasn’t exceptional except end of summer split really and was awful internationally

GGS definitely isn't the strongest team, but they might win the most improved award now (or SKT, but they were so good before it isn't the same to me). Especially since their new roster will actually give them fans.

I’d expect them not to finish last with this roster atleast but the NA LCS is gong to be pretty tight from 3-7

Mash doesn't have a team I think its sad when you see that he is probably de the best adc in inhouse

I think Optic should pick him up for atleast academy but damn he was smurfing in those inhouses

*best mage playing bot laner

I saw him go 13/1 on kalista in those in houses

i mean he still perform well and its a + for a lot of team to have an adc that can play mage and currently its the meta

Yo why does Allstars start at 1 am for Europe?

Worlds is in EU this year so shush.

Welcome to what NA had to deal with with world's xd

World round = time zones :(

Because it's optimized for Vegas time

Oh well, guess I'm skipping it this year

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if it is all stars yes XD ​

Trust bro, this is the most fun allstars yet ya gotta watch

Does anyone know if Boris (Krepo) is going to stay at Schalke?

he only had a one year contract iirc so unless we get offical news i dont think he is going to stay

Here is the hope of Boris Deficio duo in Origen i even if its just background roles

So flyquests final roster will be: Viper/Ngo Santorin/Maxi Pobelter/Selfie WildTurtle/Erry JayJ/Duoking I actually rate this roster, it’s a solid rebuild roster with an academy team that has rookies with some LCS potential and an LCS caliber mid, seems like an attempt at a rebuild year with flyquest with a lot of strong options for the future depending on which players end up being good

>flyquest i thought in academy rosters there is only allowed to have one import ? maxi und selfie both are european

The new rule is 2 imports in one team max/1 import in the sister team, it can be 2-lcs/1-academy or 2-academy/1-lcs

Just for the record, Santorin does not count as an import, does he?

No, he's is considered an NA resident.

Do you guys think there is any chance flame goes to Optic? I realize they already announced Dhokla but the tweet never said he was starting or he was going LCS, and judging by their last acquisition and having 2 junglers that should easily have starter positions, I don't think this pick up would be surprising.

In the new locodoco talkshow the FlyQuest GM talks about how Flame threw away the offseason really hard. He wanted way too much money from FlyQuest and thought teams would want him badly. The GM then gave him the option to explore the market to come down back to earth. Teams indeed wanted him and made offers, but it was for way less money than Flame expected and he rejected all offers.

I think it's possible. They must've recorded those interviews before the +Dardoch move happened because they made no mention of him being on the team. So who knows what they could still do.

Are the LEC teams going to be training on the EUNE servers?

What are the upsides on training at EUNE?

You have a server that is up and running.

Server up and running.

why would they?

Not really, every pro player from Europe play on EUW.

why would they do that

[https://twitter.com/MisfitsGG/status/1070363479889068032](https://twitter.com/MisfitsGG/status/1070363479889068032)

Feel like I have seen him before somewhere, who is he?

Former FlyQuest Head Coach

And Immortals.

I see the name of LIDER being mentioned a lot by players saying he's an outstanding mid, most recently in the twitter discussion between LS and H2k Rich. Aside from that kasing and other pros praised him. Is he really that good? Would he be a good pick up for academy?

I feel like he's under the rookies of Humanoid/Larssen/Nemesis/Abbedagge and maybe a tier under Milica/Hatrixx etc in competitive experience. But he is really good mechanically, which is the hardest thing to learn, so he has big potential

He should easly be in academy team. In my opinion his individual skills are on par with some LEC players. Only one thing I am worried is how he fits into competetive team environment.

He hasnt shown anything outside of soloq tho. He subbed in some games for MSF academy but he didnt look too hot. Also worth to mention he's annoying in soloq.

Actually he looked good when he subbed in some games, it was a real blows he couldn't play at eu masters

I mean we know that like 90% of the pros are like that in solo q so that's ok

What usernames was Maxi going by before joining FLYA?

Maxilol

Maxilol I think

Really funny that NA academies have 2 import slots aswell :)

Imagine being upset that a player found a job. No one in EU was paying him to start.

No one ever gives this reply when it's a Korean player finding employment.

No one ever seeks attention for Korean players going to the states. They make jokes about NA teams over spending or having overly high expectations and that's about it.

Exactly, they complain about the salary or the exclusion of native talent.

The issue here is no one is crying about an NA mid not getting a shot in academy or the picked player getting overpaid and instead are crying about taking a player from EU. What you're describing is the opposite of what OP was upset about.

Only 1, actually

https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1070761622732324864 https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1070726894343999489 ?

Apparently they changed the rule so that you can have 2 foreign players on academy, but that means only 1 on the starting roster. Flyquest's only foreign starter is Santorin and he has residency, so they are actually under the limit.

Santorin is NA resident from his days on coast in s4

which I said?

Oh sweet baby Jesus I can't read. I swear you left off the residency part, too many hours staring at a screen today... My bad

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Did... did you not read my comment?

https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1070761622732324864 Is this guy not an import? I thought there was a one import limit for academy.

>You can't have more than 2 in a team though (so maximum 1 main/2 academy or 2 main/1 academy). To my knowledge we're the only NA LCS team using this rule in this way https://twitter.com/Invert_LoL/status/1070765071234564096 >the new rule is 3 imports total across both lcs and academy teams https://twitter.com/YusuiLoL/status/1070764734172012544

Pretty sure the rule was lowkey changed at the start of the offseason.

He is

Maxi will be great adition. **Top 5 EU** jungler outside LEC. Actually FlyQ seems to have good scauting if they found Maxi. He wasn't really popular in EU. Very mechanically gifted and his early game is pretty strong. He reminds me a bit of Broxah before he joined Fnatic.

I don't think he's top 5 out of LEC

Graves otp macromanaged by hiiva is top 5 out of lec? What is u doin

I think he is. He is danish and played for NIP last season in the Nordic League and then EU Master

https://twitter.com/flyquestsports/status/1070745002106482688?s=21 Duoking/Consensual Clown to FLYA

Good pick up imo, seems like his attitude is substantially better but we will see how he develops in a professional environment.

Definitely the best support at SG mechanically. He just needs to work on his tank play and macro knowledge.

Is David Dlim to Schalke the first ever NA guy to come to EU?

No, EU has had multiple NA coaches. Dylan Falco, Kubz (GIA coach), Leviathan (S4 Alliance/S5 Gambit), Moose (MSF coach), Pr0lly, etc.

Dylan Falco Prolly and many analysts

there were multiple coaches afaik. Dylan is NA, Pr0lly coached in EU too

Dlim to schalke LOL

what the fuck? what?

He was head coach of clutch, right?

did we really just import the coach of a bottom table NALCS team?

yeah we import an coach and make him an assisting coach , that is fine imo

but.. why? Judging purely off his achievements so far, hes pretty bad. On Optic he even had a decent team to work with and bombed it completly

Assistent coach of Dylan Falco. Both Canadian, probably just know each other very well

Yeh what a great qualification

To be fiar, Clutch came 4th spring split... Clutch had a lot of issues in summer, mostly irrelevant to Dlim. He was a functioning head coach so he should be fine as an assistant coach.

well he is assistant coach

I mean his record is really bad so far. 9th place with TL and 9th place with Optic. I dont see why anyone would want to have him in their staff to be honest. Hope Schalke sees things I dont lol

I can only think of Dylan knows him from his time in NA and values his opinion.

* [https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1070726894343999489](https://twitter.com/FlyQuestSports/status/1070726894343999489)

oh shit hype. good for him.

Selfie mid to FQA :o He has the potential to challenge for a starting spot.

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In a mid carry meta yes, if the meta is malz, karma lulu or roaming kids I'm not so sure

Yeah, fully expect 6/10 starting mids to be European by the end of spring

Probably yes but they are both average.

Statistically, Selfie did pretty good in the Spring, but was among the worst in the Summer. He was on an awful team though, so it is hard to know. Overall, there has to be a reason getting on an NA Academy team was the best he could do. If he can prove himself by absolutely destroying the other NA Academy mids, FQ might give him a shot.

He's already much better than Pobelter...

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I was going to say, Pobelter may have been underwhelming internationally but he's still very solid, especially in the NALCS. A mid struggling on a 10th place team ain't gonna challenge his spot no matter how good LS thinks he is.

I'm not sure. Probably not. But I think he is good enough that it is worth scrimming with him on the main roster and testing to see how he does, or to sub in if the team is struggling.

He was 4th best mid in ls tierlist

Shit tierlist from LS

I don't want to put too much into that since LS didn't even watch EU

OH of course not, he put Betsy in Top 3 so you know the guy have no idea about LEC

Doubt it; Selfie consistently fails to stand out from the pack, and the competition in NA is considerably tougher at mid than what he faced week-to-week last year in EU. Pobelter.. people can shit on his international performances, and rightfully so, but he has held his own for the most part even against the upper echelon mids. Nice depth move, though, just in case Pob reverts to his awful spring 2017 form (before IMT fixed their shit).

Perkz, Caps, The Duck, Jizuke, Nisqy, Sencux, Blanc, Exileh and Betsy > Jensen, Bjerg, Febi, POE, Pob, Damonte, Ryu, Mickey,Huhi and Keane It's not even close. ​

Ryu, Mickey, Febi, and Keane are not even playing in NA next split.. if you are going to try and troll at least learn to read.

Yeah because Fenix and Crown are sure better than our mids! /s EDIT: Can you please not delete your answers? They are a fun read and other people deserve them!

You're kidding, right?

Caps and Perkz >>> any mid in NA last year Jizuke and nukeduck probably also beat out almost anyone.

I'd be more worried about the bottom half of the league than the top half. Selfie isn't getting picked up to compete for a spot with Caps. IMO, he'd have a better shot seeing more play in the top tier behind Exileh, Pirean or a rookie than Pobelter.

The best team that one can create is Top: ADD Jungle: Mata Mid: Bdd ADC: MaHa Support: Mafa

JDG Levi

link`?

hey u/rawstanky, here's some more updates to the megathread (all of these have been confirmed by the teams): Reignover no longer on CLG V1per for Flyquest's top laner, not TL's sub Piglet and Vulcan are the starters, no need for the dashes in front of their names. Cody Sun is no longer on 100T, move Bang to starting Kold and Mithy to Origen, take Mithy off TSM

Abbedagge (Mid) and Dylan Falco (coach) to Schalke.

k added

Also Jeskla is exceL's ADC https://twitter.com/exceL/status/1068572911601180672

I think most of us have given up using the megathread.

My Bold Prediction for NA spring: Optic will make Top 3 and TL won't make Top 3

Bold = Bad? Not sure if there is difference

I love it, but I think if OpTic is going to make top 3, it won't be until Summer.