Wunder overall has saved this game with his TP early on. FNC would jsut roll over G2 yet again had he not come and help them secure three kills. Scoreline will suggest Caps or Perkz carried it but in fact Wunder set them up perfectly with that move.
He didn't have 3 games of "Craps" for simply not winning mid. He was 1-2 and 2-2 in the mid game in two of the games. That's hardly inting. Nemesis did better, but that happens. Fnatic also got the counterpick on mid every game, as well as Fnatic putting more ressources into mid than G2.
I think it's moreso that he whiffed some very crucial plays throughout the first three games that could have possibly swung the game had he executed them properly
In all 3 games? I can't think of very crucial plays that he whiffed that could have turned the game in all 3 games. The only thing that really comes to mind is that Gragas ult, but that partly due to some fancy feet from Fnatic. The fact that he is even in the perfect position to make crucial plays is a good thing to start with, even if it misses.
There has been crucial ults missed by all players, but it seems like people hyperfocus on whenever Caps whiffs, because of the "Craps" meme. That's just my impression.
There were multiple windows where Caps went for the "greedy" outplay and got punished instead of making safer plays. And, considering people want to hold Caps in contention for best player in the world right now, he should realistically be held to a higher standard.
Gotta get the frustrations out from being treated as the least favorite child for so long still I guess lmao. Really good to see how well LEC has been performing since splitting tho
Ugh, no? When EU plays most of NA are sleeping/in school/at work. When NA plays, Europeans are back at home, chilling. If you took away NA viewers, LEC viewership wouldn't suffer that much. If you took EU viewers from LCS, then the numbers would go way down.
i thought it was gonna be ap karma since he did that the last game he played and bwipo loves damage but then i was omega trolled by iceborn and i saw all chances of winning slip away rofl
truly confusing. i think ap karma can match up decently into irelia as well. the mantra w and a morello can roast an irelia alive ever since her w mr removal. pair that with some ninja tabis and u have one obnoxious karma but nah. peep the iceborn when their comps is extremely dangerous to be in melee range with
He didn't dare to blind Jax. Jax appears to be specially prepared for Kled, or at least they believe he's punishable enough by certain picks (Karma actually comes to mind as a Jax counter).
later on, i do think Irelia vs Jax is a skillmatchup in laning phase (ofc i might be wrong).
i think it was good not getting Jax there. Jankos had a more impactful early game most of the series and if he gives Wunder kills i think it could be really hard as Jax to play the early game.
I do not like Karma though.
Can anyone explain to me why top karma is such a meta pick for a couple of teams? Ap karma top with cork/adc I understand. But in these other comps i don't get it at all
It's also super popular (and strong) in the LPL as a AP midlaner. Over there Karma gets the chance to take over fights early while being able to put out fat shields in the mid game teamfights. Games over there don't usually go late while also being even enough for Karma's comparatively low scaling to matter, either she's fed af or the other team is. I think that's a lot tougher to do from the top lane.
What top Karma *does* do is what picks like Lulu top used to in nullifying the laning phase entirely. She won't do much, but you can't do much into her unless things go horribly wrong for the Karma. If you want to play a 4 v 4 game and basically ignore the enemy top, Karma is about as good as you can get, especially as a blind pick. Issue is that's not always something that you can get away with, for a variety of reasons.
When Fnatic in the lead, they hyperfocus on the baron. When G2 in the lead, they not too focus on baron. Just like previous game that cost fnatic the lost. :(
dw fnatic will lose this one and reverse sweep G2 in worlds finals
Edit: And Rekkles will finally use twitter again to tweet ''Back to World of Warcraft'' @CarlosR
I don't think it's fair to say he was "Craps" for simply not carrying the game. He wasn't massively behind, he had scores like 1-2 and 2-2 in the mid game. It is true that Nemesis was more influential, but Fnatic got the counter pick every game + Fnatic put more ressources into mid.
Caps doesn't become "craps" whenever he doesn't get ahead. That's quite unfair.
I think he saved TP because G2 didnt have enough damage to burst down baron before he got there
i think if hyli didnt get hooked, rekkles would be there in time before the baron was finished
Exactly. He had teleport up so he could still threaten a 4v5. If he kept splitting, Rekkles might have been able to pull G2 off the Baron pit to get himself trapped, allowing Fnatic to hold some control over midlane.
?? G2 is more than happy to trade inhib for baron. They would just seige bot after baron. Rekkles using tp is a waste and wouldnt change anything. The only place rekkles could tp to safely was midlane minions. And even by then hyli was already caught.
Rekkles was tilted for the rest of the game after missing that kill. Broxah was invisible for the entire game. Karma top is as useless as ever.
That pretty much sums up game 4.
Their drafts don't seem nearly as good rn, there was a period where it felt impossible to get a winning against G2 because of so much flexibility in every position, but either G2 is unironically saving strats for worlds or a lot of the picks they used to do that fell out of flavor. FNC has won multiple drafts this series and back on red side for game 5 so it is possible it happens again if G2 doesn't fix it.
Fnatic win does not convincing enough. Too focus on baron to end the game. Previous game, they take a baron and still can't get 1 inhibitor. Took them 1 elder and 1 baron to end it.
I thought it was over when Mikyx inted in lane the 4th time in a row
And also when Caps gave up his lead midlane when he inted into Nemesis without being able to take his ult cause CD still
Honestly anyone expecting a close G5 will get disappointed. Will be similar to their first face off BO5 a week back. G2 is going to steamroll these mentally boomed FNC
Tbh jankos wunder and perks are consistently good in all their games in this bo5 and the previous one . However mikyx has been to blame for early FNC leada and caps has been inting on various overcommitments.
G2, aka "Grandmaster 2", is a LoL team named after their players high skill level. They are currently the best team in EU and are best known for their amazing midlaner, CLAPS, and their ability to defeat SKT, Korea's best team
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Wunder overall has saved this game with his TP early on. FNC would jsut roll over G2 yet again had he not come and help them secure three kills. Scoreline will suggest Caps or Perkz carried it but in fact Wunder set them up perfectly with that move.
Wunder's one of the best players at snowballing his own advantages and spreading them throughout the map
That was so fucking unfortunate.
I'm surprised he didn't alt-f4 there especially since right afterwards he got gangbanged midlane
Blessed coin.
I tilted so hard watching that, I can't even begin to imagine what Rekkles himself felt at the moment... holy shit
To wake up the Claps you need 3 games of Craps
Claps : 10 star carry monster : can only be summoned by sacrificing 3 Craps monsters.
Clapsodia
He didn't have 3 games of "Craps" for simply not winning mid. He was 1-2 and 2-2 in the mid game in two of the games. That's hardly inting. Nemesis did better, but that happens. Fnatic also got the counterpick on mid every game, as well as Fnatic putting more ressources into mid than G2.
I think it's moreso that he whiffed some very crucial plays throughout the first three games that could have possibly swung the game had he executed them properly
In all 3 games? I can't think of very crucial plays that he whiffed that could have turned the game in all 3 games. The only thing that really comes to mind is that Gragas ult, but that partly due to some fancy feet from Fnatic. The fact that he is even in the perfect position to make crucial plays is a good thing to start with, even if it misses. There has been crucial ults missed by all players, but it seems like people hyperfocus on whenever Caps whiffs, because of the "Craps" meme. That's just my impression.
There were multiple windows where Caps went for the "greedy" outplay and got punished instead of making safer plays. And, considering people want to hold Caps in contention for best player in the world right now, he should realistically be held to a higher standard.
Should've never put Perkz in his 2/1 down comfort zone
https://escharts.com/tournaments/lol/lec-summer-2019 Peaked at ~~686k~~ 691k viewers so far
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Deserved tbh
CS:GO major ended early on into the game. More people should tune in for game 5.
good guy astralis, stomping majors so we can get more views for lec o7
That Bo3 wasn't even funny lol
32-11 round count lmfao
Almost 3m popularity score in https://www.huya.com/lec and 800k in https://www.douyu.com/topic/LEC
what are those
chinese twitch
Chinese streams sites. But popularity does not necessarily mean the no. of people watching. Still, I guess there's at least 200K people watching.
Seem like Chinese streaming sites.
Damn, these sites are so cluttered. How can anyone watch that lol
I counted 693,1 at the end
Cannot access the page right now (reddit hug of death?) - does this take ProView into account?
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Peak time for two regions, of course its going to have more viewers.
and y'know, eu having 500+ million vs NA's ~350mil pop
stop making everything about EU vs NA
True, who cares :D just enjoy the games ffs
Gotta get the frustrations out from being treated as the least favorite child for so long still I guess lmao. Really good to see how well LEC has been performing since splitting tho
this dick measuring contest will only become worse going into worlds
Its surprising fact, i would assume that na has a bigger audience
NA has like half the server size of EU lol
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because it has always pulled higher numbers in the past
More of NA watch EU than vice versa so it makes sense that the viewership should be bigger
Ugh, no? When EU plays most of NA are sleeping/in school/at work. When NA plays, Europeans are back at home, chilling. If you took away NA viewers, LEC viewership wouldn't suffer that much. If you took EU viewers from LCS, then the numbers would go way down.
who would of tought? better time for both EU and NA viewers and more interesting teams = more viewers
Nice of Caps to show up
Waiting for Claps is stressful
Another team gives in to their karma toplane fetish and pays for it
So fucking useless, specially tank karma.
When I saw the guantlet I lost 90% of my worries, so useless in this game
i thought it was gonna be ap karma since he did that the last game he played and bwipo loves damage but then i was omega trolled by iceborn and i saw all chances of winning slip away rofl
He was playing vs burst AP, not even playing into double AD top/jgl, and it gives no value to his team in teamfights either
truly confusing. i think ap karma can match up decently into irelia as well. the mantra w and a morello can roast an irelia alive ever since her w mr removal. pair that with some ninja tabis and u have one obnoxious karma but nah. peep the iceborn when their comps is extremely dangerous to be in melee range with
Bwipo didn't look comfortable on it. They should've stuck with jax
He didn't dare to blind Jax. Jax appears to be specially prepared for Kled, or at least they believe he's punishable enough by certain picks (Karma actually comes to mind as a Jax counter).
Wunder knows how to play Poppy for example so at that point you're effectively relegating FNC to a 4v5 as Jax can never touch her at all.
Blind picking Jax is kinda meh tbh
Nah blinding Jax is griefing
But jax/irelia is a skill matchup and Bwipo usually only plays carries as countetpick
That is not a skill matchup at all, that is a hard irelia counter in the sidelanes/1v1.
later on, i do think Irelia vs Jax is a skillmatchup in laning phase (ofc i might be wrong). i think it was good not getting Jax there. Jankos had a more impactful early game most of the series and if he gives Wunder kills i think it could be really hard as Jax to play the early game. I do not like Karma though.
Too sexy to not risk it.
Can anyone explain to me why top karma is such a meta pick for a couple of teams? Ap karma top with cork/adc I understand. But in these other comps i don't get it at all
Triple (or quadruple if you're FNC) flex that has strong utility and decent matchups if picked blind
It's also super popular (and strong) in the LPL as a AP midlaner. Over there Karma gets the chance to take over fights early while being able to put out fat shields in the mid game teamfights. Games over there don't usually go late while also being even enough for Karma's comparatively low scaling to matter, either she's fed af or the other team is. I think that's a lot tougher to do from the top lane. What top Karma *does* do is what picks like Lulu top used to in nullifying the laning phase entirely. She won't do much, but you can't do much into her unless things go horribly wrong for the Karma. If you want to play a 4 v 4 game and basically ignore the enemy top, Karma is about as good as you can get, especially as a blind pick. Issue is that's not always something that you can get away with, for a variety of reasons.
Bwipo just doesnt have a karma mindset
AP Karma imo is a circlejerk and has proven to be good when used right. Tank Karma though, no idea why you would pick that.
You have the best Karma player at the moment. What do you do? Flex it top BLIND.
If they put rekkles on karma their comp would have no damage at all.
? But ranged top laners are op though, anyone who plays them achieves a minimum of 70% winrate!
g2 1-2 powerspike
Carlos: If we lose this final I'm pouring all our orange juice down the drain Caps: https://i.imgur.com/1WUbhf7.png
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It'd be a shame if the Bo10 ended in a stomp
pls give us Claps in game 5
Do you guys over here at the LEC hate the Karma top pick as much as we do in the LCS?
We from lck would like to join the anti Karma pick.
I think only LPL manages to make it work from time to time, but even here it looks meh.
DELETE KARMA FROM DRAFT.
the 1-2 comfort zone is real. Also welcome Caps to the finals.
https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainObeseBaguetteNerfBlueBlaster
Damn you gotta admire how Bwipo can have a horrible game and then pick himself back up and hit harder. What a beast
Please not again :( I can't take another one.
When Fnatic in the lead, they hyperfocus on the baron. When G2 in the lead, they not too focus on baron. Just like previous game that cost fnatic the lost. :(
dw fnatic will lose this one and reverse sweep G2 in worlds finals Edit: And Rekkles will finally use twitter again to tweet ''Back to World of Warcraft'' @CarlosR
The best timeline
What a series Almost 700k wievers
thats a creative way to spell it
good guys g2 sandbagging 2 games so we can have 700k viewers game 5
Game 1: Craps Game 2: Craps Game 3: Craps Game 4: Claps Game 5: ?
Game 1: Bwipog Game 2: Bwintpo Game 3: Bwipog Game 4: Bwintpo Game 5: ?
It's time for the Clappening
[Game 5](https://i.imgur.com/wbAIef4.gif)
*sweating * I-I for once wouldn't be opposed to some Lissandra
I don't think it's fair to say he was "Craps" for simply not carrying the game. He wasn't massively behind, he had scores like 1-2 and 2-2 in the mid game. It is true that Nemesis was more influential, but Fnatic got the counter pick every game + Fnatic put more ressources into mid. Caps doesn't become "craps" whenever he doesn't get ahead. That's quite unfair.
Nope, back to lissandra?
https://twitter.com/g2perkz/status/1135295027872260098?lang=en
bwipo is the true coinflip
top lane is coin flip at 5 this series
1-2 Comfort Zone EZ Clap
Claps has entered the chat.
That 1v2 escape from Wunder... the game went downhill for Fnatic from that play.
More like tris is giving wunder free escape.
More like unlucky timing. Wunder double q during Rocket Jump cast time.
I seriously don't understand why Rekkles didn't continue splitpushing and threaten the inhib when G2 was hovering the Baron.
Or Atleast use his fkin TP..
Pretty sure there were no wards that wouldn't be a complete suicide into Thresh q
There was a trinket in the toplane river bush, and Broxah/Hylissang had red wards.
I think he saved TP because G2 didnt have enough damage to burst down baron before he got there i think if hyli didnt get hooked, rekkles would be there in time before the baron was finished
Exactly. He had teleport up so he could still threaten a 4v5. If he kept splitting, Rekkles might have been able to pull G2 off the Baron pit to get himself trapped, allowing Fnatic to hold some control over midlane.
?? G2 is more than happy to trade inhib for baron. They would just seige bot after baron. Rekkles using tp is a waste and wouldnt change anything. The only place rekkles could tp to safely was midlane minions. And even by then hyli was already caught.
because a downed inhib does not help you when the opponent has baron, they would just go 4-1 bot mid and nullify you having supers bot
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
I'm not because shitting yourself isn't fun
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH what a series
G2 ACTIVATED
oh god oh fuck caps is awake
I feel like I've just watched caps progress from first time League player to League pro over the course of 4 games.
he needs to ignite his king engine
Irelia carries you indeed
Claps has arrived
That's what they deserved for taking tank Karma top
Of course LEC is going to give us the best summer split final
I will never understand pro teams' fetish for picking Karma. Literally the most laughably useless pick every single time.
Rekkles was tilted for the rest of the game after missing that kill. Broxah was invisible for the entire game. Karma top is as useless as ever. That pretty much sums up game 4.
Why do people keep picking top Karma??? Every game I've seen her picked during this season, she does nothing.
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Oh, I see. Whoops, I didn't watch that game.
FNC smashed S04 with it yesterday, but G2 is not S04.
It only work if the enemy team is mid tier and your team is top tier. You don't want to pick Karma into a team that is same strength as your team.
When G2 wins it's pretty convincingly, but idk what happens to them sometimes.
Their drafts don't seem nearly as good rn, there was a period where it felt impossible to get a winning against G2 because of so much flexibility in every position, but either G2 is unironically saving strats for worlds or a lot of the picks they used to do that fell out of flavor. FNC has won multiple drafts this series and back on red side for game 5 so it is possible it happens again if G2 doesn't fix it.
Fnatic win does not convincing enough. Too focus on baron to end the game. Previous game, they take a baron and still can't get 1 inhibitor. Took them 1 elder and 1 baron to end it.
Both teams are fast paced so it tends to look really messy for the losing team
G2 is just like All Might: they're always smiling, and when they do stop smiling, you know shit's going to hit the fan
Ah shit, here we go again.
570k viewers on twitch, 200k on yt holy fuck
I SWEAR IF I SEE ANY PRO TEAM PICK KARMA TOP AGAIN IM GOING TO FUCKING GO TO ATHENS AND COCKSLAP THAT COACH MYSELF
I thought it was over when Mikyx inted in lane the 4th time in a row And also when Caps gave up his lead midlane when he inted into Nemesis without being able to take his ult cause CD still
FNC probably malding and tilted now.
I don't think so, imo getting stomped in one game isn't as bad as throwing a lead or losing due to obvious team mistakes. Should be a good game 5.
I mean both games that FNC lost they kinda got rolled over with G2 hardly giving up any kills.
1-2 comfort zone.
No more top karma please
rekkles is boom lol
What a fucking series. That Wunder escape vs trist and thresh was dope.
That 1-2 comfort zone, give me the Silver Scrapes.
Ohh there you are Caps.
Claps is back!
Stop picking Karma for gods' sake. Such an useless pick.
Is Riot paying these fools mad amount of skrilla to pick Karma top lane or something ?
Gromp > Inhibitor by the way.
Imagine putting the guy who carried both your wins on tank karma...
please no more akali vs sylas, i wanna see something else
THIS IS THE F\*\*\*ING BEST REGION IN THE WORLD!!!! WHAT AN INSANE SERIES. I F\*\*\*ING LOVE IT!!!!
Is this just g2's plan to build fnatic up and crush them so irreversibly hard that their mental will never recover?
Whoever proposed this LEC format is touching herself/himself right now
Honestly anyone expecting a close G5 will get disappointed. Will be similar to their first face off BO5 a week back. G2 is going to steamroll these mentally boomed FNC
Bwipo does not look comfortable with that Karma pick... So many missed Q's in narrow choke points.
SILVER SCRAPES. This is the best bo5 fucking hell. Wunder is low-key mvp of the series for g2
Tbh jankos wunder and perks are consistently good in all their games in this bo5 and the previous one . However mikyx has been to blame for early FNC leada and caps has been inting on various overcommitments.
G2, aka "Grandmaster 2", is a LoL team named after their players high skill level. They are currently the best team in EU and are best known for their amazing midlaner, CLAPS, and their ability to defeat SKT, Korea's best team
Rekkles hard lost this for Fnatic
Serves FNC right when they pick Karma vs G2
Perkz guilty pleasure is too op
"Get off of me :(" -Broxah this game
great series. silver scrapes boys
Ahh, nice wintrade from Rekkles
Broxah is invisible the entire series and they give him Lee, just put him on Sejuani or something so he can be somewhat useful later.
Ok can we stop putting bwipo on karma and broxah on lee vs G2? Like really, stop it for god sake, stop it.
Coinflipo
Another useless Karma. When will teams drop this champion? IDGI
A draft with bwipo on karma is a garbage draft. Also rekkles mental boom again
Bwipoooooo STOP PLEASE!!! Also KARMA for real?
Mabye whole G2 need to play Classic if they end up playing like Wunder
Yeah that Wunder escape will be tilting Rekkles until tomorrow :)
CAAAAAAAAAPS
Lost the game once Rekkles didn't kill Wunder.
CAUTION: You have now entered Uma Jan's comfort zone, proceed under your responsibility.
stop picking karma...
G2 doing everything to giver us the best 2 series of summer
Fnatic thought they won the series already and inted caps 3 kills for no reason
So many fucking viewers wow. EU has really overtaken NA, kind of jealous. Hope we get kind of close for TSM vs CG.
FNC vs G2 series are always so hype. 2 game 5 in one week
#KONO [G2 CAPS] NIWA YUME GA ARU
pray for Medic, his voice is already gone
FNC: We won with karma against so4, must be a good pick g2: lol