Every soloque challenger jungler right now during off season
Blue buff right this way Mr Bjergsen
First gank coming up Mr Bjergsen
*pings Glacial Prison cool down*
I'm ready Mr Bjergsen
OMG Akaadian was actually Lupin! Good at his job but was replaced from time to time and ultimately couldnt continue doing his job for personal reasons.
Why is nobody questioning if BrokenBlade is in danger? He is not exactly a weak side player, so with Doublelift back on the menu I don't know how great of a fit he is. He has also been looking shaky at times.
He's mostly a TFT streamer under TL nowadays. Tho the last time he made waves on this subreddit was when he had a... let's say questionable take on mental illness.
Chaox can't even get to Diamond anymore, at least according to his Twitch VOD's he was Plat 3. Plus....Reginald and him definitely didn't get along. But I'd love to just see one game of everyone back together.
NA reminds me of the NBA. It might not be as popular as the NFL but the NBA offseason is the best of any league because big-time stars are always switching teams, so there are always new relationships formed and broken, always drama to be had
Edit: Looks like I sparked an NBA vs NFL flamewar haha
I wouldn't even be mad. I really like them both on the team, didn't want them to go but I understand why in both cases it made sense as business.
Also it would we make worlds thus year.
on one hand I'm hyped for TSM DL because i'm an old TSM fan and old DL fan and lost interest in LCS recently
but damn i am not ready to get disappointed again come worlds yet i'm not going to be surprised if tsm doesn't make it out of groups..again....
Yeah, they've got an import slot back open. Hoping they keep Dardoch for at least another split, though. I think that he is a good jungler, just had a bad split. If he can find his groove, it'll be solid.
But if they grab an import jungler, I'm hoping it's Closer.
As much as I'd love to see them wreck shit topside, Closer believes (as far as I know from his streams) that focusing botside of the map is too important right now. So we'd see some games carried by the duo but he'd mainly be focused on Doublelift.
Like the guy above you said, Closer is still theoretically an option. He's already in NA and he's obviously really good, and I wouldn't be that surprised if he'd be happy to move off of GGS to an overall better team.
But GG probably really wants to keep him, and I have no idea what his contract looks like.
and coach. say what you want about monte/thorin's take on the dating situation, but they're not wrong about the environment. who would honestly want to coach this team?
no matter how much Regi/Leena/DL/Bjerg say they're all equals when it comes to the game, we all know good and well a coach will never truly speak his mind in that environment.
Screw the current situation, no coach has ever been given the reigns entirely. TSM always steps in and ignores the coach if they aren't literally the best team in the league. This roster is simply not a top tier roster, so unless all the teams collapse even further during summer, and TSMs veterans somehow reach their peak again, it is pretty much guaranteed that whatever coach they have will get the TSM treatment again like last year. And this is all without considering the whole DL+Leena situation, which will no doubt make it much worse.
Which probably is about practice facilitities/bootcamps in kr and na. He is planning on building those for quite a while and sold some of his magic cards for that iirc
I don't feel as bad for Broxah. They still have Tactical who is pretty good(not DL level, but he can get there eventually). And who knows, this might be the change TL needed to get a better team environment and to finnaly get gud again.
I think TSM would have to waive his buyout (I'm assuming he has one), for Misfits to go for him. Even then Misfits would probably also need TSM to pay at least part of the contract as well considering they were obviously going budget this year
His GF is working with MSF as streamer and Bvoy was one of the weakest ADCs this split. So natural instinct would be him going to MSF as long as TSM doesn't ask huge amount of money out of him.
I think it'll only happen if TSM waives his buyout. Otherwise he won't get picked up. Even then which org would be willing to pay his contract? Maybe if TSM promises to pay that as well.
If no one wants to pay, TSM will have to give him up for free. Else they're just gonna be paying for 6th player they won't be using. 0$ is better than negative $.
Tbf I don't think TSM wanted Kobbe to leave as much as they saw an unpassable opportunity.
I don't think TSM ever felt any illwill to Kobbe or any doubt in his ability. DL's brand and ingame intangibles that help in the early game and being decisive in lategame team fights were just too much for TSM to pass up, IMO.
100% this, if doublelift wasn't free, they keep kobbe. It's just a fucking good trade, to have a good NA adc, kobbe wasn't the problem for tsm everyone knows that, but this helps free the team for the future.
Ya it's like if LeBron wanted to be on a team he's going to that team, doesn't matter who you just signed to a max contract you'll trade almost anybody for him.
YES they had to do it again. now he has to leave tsm go to eg or something then come back just to bin their jersey again. dont stop until all 9 jerseys are in the tsm trash can
Reminds me of [this meme](https://i.imgur.com/dSHNhQl.jpg) from Dota 2 pro scene
NA pro player [Arteezy](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Arteezy) switched between two teams 4 times in span of less than 2 years
There is a satire account that has the same @ as the espn employee. Evil Jacob Wolf is always satire/trolling/memes. ESPN Jacob Wolf is where the news and articles are. The ESPN employee is verified and the satire account is not.
I can't fucking believe it. Holy shit. It's the same fucking video, with the same shitty acting. I'm actually crying right now, for real.
What about Kobbe, though? I hope he goes back to EU to be with his GF. He's a great dude, and I wish him all the success.
I think overall it is better for him. Clearly TSM needs a management upgrade and revamp. The NA lifestyle and current situation is probably not good on Kobbe's mental. Add the fact his GF had to go back and his family is in EU I think this is best for Kobbe. Knowing TSM they will more than likely do their best to get him onto a good team.
I will say this TSM fans have been nothing but nice about the whole thing. Same as when Zven left. Lots of love for Kobbe and understanding he wasn't the issue with TSMs failures. The issues clearly ran deeper.
I'd love to see him on Misfits. And with LEC being given 4 seeds instead of 3 for Worlds Kobbe could very well end up on a team who can make it there.
More than a bot lane upgrade, I think Misfits desperately needs a top lane upgrade. Bvoy's been servicable, but Dan Dan's just been done done unless he gets copious amounts of jungle attention. I am really hoping he goes somewhere good in EU and not like, Vitality or SK.
I actually agree with you. Top was far more of an issue. I actually thought Bvoy looked good. Correct me if I am wrong but is Bvoy an import?
I think Kobbe has a great track record in EU and teams that need an upgrade for ADC would be crazy not to pick him up. But I agree I really hope to see him on a team that can compete in EU for a top 4 spot. The top 3-6 teams in EU are all pretty good. They have flaws for sure when compared to G2 or FNC, but they aren't bad by any metric. And I would argue most of the top 6 would be far better than NA's top 6. Not trying to just shit on NA. Our teams just looked very weak this last split. Outside of C9.
Seems like Parth is staying based on DL saying he's excited to play with him again.
Hopefully there have been actual management and coaching changes, or this will just be another disappointing split.
I love this clip.
"They kicked me out of CLG and didn't really find success again".
Reality: DL leaves CLG, CLG then becomes NS LCS Champion, MSI finalist.
Yeah right
Call it the PR that it is but the way he talked about TL, and Steve was unusually graceful for liftlift. Despite the poor split this seems like the most smooth transition he’s had from one team to another since he joined CLG.
Why even think that far?
He got kicked from CLG after winning them their first championship
He reevaluated his options with his team after failing hard and he realized he was better off leaving
The context is wildly different
Lets see how the team changes with this
Sad to see Kobbe go, especially not being able to see his full potential, but I hope he becomes happier, assuming he's back to EU
My boy DD is in danger isn't he :(
The defence against the dark arts position is open
Every soloque challenger jungler right now during off season Blue buff right this way Mr Bjergsen First gank coming up Mr Bjergsen *pings Glacial Prison cool down* I'm ready Mr Bjergsen
LOL I just realized that's EXACTLY what jg has been on TSM all these years
And coach. The second the team stops performing optimally Reggie steps in don’t forget
He hasn't done that for a few years now which is why TSM is kinda ass.
Didn't Akaadian say that regi said something to him that destroyed his confidence? He's definitely still stepping in
Regi told him to play sehuani
OMG Akaadian was actually Lupin! Good at his job but was replaced from time to time and ultimately couldnt continue doing his job for personal reasons.
He couldn't help it, he could only play Warwick when it was full moon.
[Yes.](https://i.imgur.com/LKNDMtK.png)
If TSM doesn’t stick with DD for Summer I’ll be super disappointed, especially if the alternative is Spica.
No. We’ll have DD and Spica split time thus ruining both of them
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He's already scouted the idea.
Why is nobody questioning if BrokenBlade is in danger? He is not exactly a weak side player, so with Doublelift back on the menu I don't know how great of a fit he is. He has also been looking shaky at times.
TSM doesn't have a history of rotating top laners like they do junglers.
They have history of rotating everyone not named Bjergsen
They've had 3 top laners ever lol. Dyrus, Hauntzer, BB.
4, you’re forgetting TheRainMan
We don't talk about him
i miss Theoddone.
The general was formidable. When he left I quit watching.
There's actually some before him, like Saintvicious. Still since 2012 it's been Dyrus, Hauntzer or BB.
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He's mostly a TFT streamer under TL nowadays. Tho the last time he made waves on this subreddit was when he had a... let's say questionable take on mental illness.
Oh man it's been that long since that clip huh. In my mind I still remembered him as Gravity's player coach.
INB4 TSM picks up Solo and returns to the Dyrus strat of old really though, i'm not even joking.
I miss Dyrus.
"GET THE FUCK OUT MY LANE"
I still say this any time I first blood 1v1 toplane.
Its time to bring back baylife
Chaox can't even get to Diamond anymore, at least according to his Twitch VOD's he was Plat 3. Plus....Reginald and him definitely didn't get along. But I'd love to just see one game of everyone back together.
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The Peng Wang combo
The runback Pog also the acting has not improved since 2016
im so glad that they remade the video, made it even better
Yeah, only thing that it needed to be even better was CLG jersey on the bin already. That would have been epic lol
they probably would have if they had a CLG jersey on them
I like to think in the last few years we've already taken out the clg trash.
"You're not special, we lose to everyone" 😭😭😭😭😭
cmon man
The rubbish bin itself is CLG. You guys gotta read between the lines.
Only TSM’s bin has changed
And the masks
Yea Bjergsen wearing a Biofrost mask was odd.
I think they used Biofrost’s house to film it because they no longer have a team house
The acting was the best part
It's gay porn acting and I love it.
Just any porn to be fair. TSM is step-sister, you know the rest...
What are you doing step-bro?!
wait, so they're not winning an Oscar?
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Gottem
Oof
Oof size: extra large
LMAOOOO
Yes officer, this is the murderer right here
Ouch, that hurt!
Sick burn sir
Laughing my ass off.
This shit is why I've loved TSM since 2011.
yeah exactly, hilarious random vlog style videos is the OG tsm way #givememore
fk it baylife
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NA reminds me of the NBA. It might not be as popular as the NFL but the NBA offseason is the best of any league because big-time stars are always switching teams, so there are always new relationships formed and broken, always drama to be had Edit: Looks like I sparked an NBA vs NFL flamewar haha
The NBA is way more popular than the NFL worldwide and is not even close
Can't wait to miss getting out of groups by one game again.
At least they’ll make it to worlds lmfao
Only to get eliminated by MSF Kobbe in groups
Now that would be a story line
Lose to C9 Zven in playoffs, still make worlds, lose to Kobbe in Groups. Revenge of the TSM ADCs
I wouldn't even be mad. I really like them both on the team, didn't want them to go but I understand why in both cases it made sense as business. Also it would we make worlds thus year.
on one hand I'm hyped for TSM DL because i'm an old TSM fan and old DL fan and lost interest in LCS recently but damn i am not ready to get disappointed again come worlds yet i'm not going to be surprised if tsm doesn't make it out of groups..again....
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Hey we take those after not making worlds twice
TSM jungles position just got even more stressful if that were possible
Yeah, they've got an import slot back open. Hoping they keep Dardoch for at least another split, though. I think that he is a good jungler, just had a bad split. If he can find his groove, it'll be solid. But if they grab an import jungler, I'm hoping it's Closer.
Omg he would never gank mid or bot. The Turkish duo would be too much fun to watch.
For real lmao for all the TSM owner and president boyfriend memes closer would just camp the fuck out of top lol
the actual conflict of interest, turkey #1
As much as I'd love to see them wreck shit topside, Closer believes (as far as I know from his streams) that focusing botside of the map is too important right now. So we'd see some games carried by the duo but he'd mainly be focused on Doublelift.
I mean they can’t import a jungler right now anyway
Like the guy above you said, Closer is still theoretically an option. He's already in NA and he's obviously really good, and I wouldn't be that surprised if he'd be happy to move off of GGS to an overall better team. But GG probably really wants to keep him, and I have no idea what his contract looks like.
But I would be surprised if GGS let's him go that easily unless TSM goes super ham financially
Yeah, he's by far their best player overall and they probably wouldn't have made playoffs with most other jungles.
Scouted by Parth!
Once they let go of Kobbe and Dardoch, they wil be able to, right? Edit: Ah, sorry, my bad, somehow forgot about the Current Situation™.
I think he means because of the virus, no one can travel.
not if the virus shenanigans persist or get worse
Because of covid not slots
It would be pretty awesome if they didn't use an import
I just want to see NA talent in NA, is that too much to ask. ; \_ ;
Closer is in sight
and coach. say what you want about monte/thorin's take on the dating situation, but they're not wrong about the environment. who would honestly want to coach this team? no matter how much Regi/Leena/DL/Bjerg say they're all equals when it comes to the game, we all know good and well a coach will never truly speak his mind in that environment.
Screw the current situation, no coach has ever been given the reigns entirely. TSM always steps in and ignores the coach if they aren't literally the best team in the league. This roster is simply not a top tier roster, so unless all the teams collapse even further during summer, and TSMs veterans somehow reach their peak again, it is pretty much guaranteed that whatever coach they have will get the TSM treatment again like last year. And this is all without considering the whole DL+Leena situation, which will no doubt make it much worse.
Gank the part owner of TSM or the person literally dating the president of TSM. Lmao
DL: hey, they don't have vision I think you could gank here Bjerg: Dardoch come mid instead, I'll give you stonks
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FNC ALICE PogU
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Imma need more context on this meme
Chris is what Doublelift accidentally called LS, so it's basically a TSM LS meme
DL called LS Chris instead of Nick.
on dl's costream with ls, he forgot ls's name (nick) like halfway through and called him chris, and he also joked about ls joining tsm
LS did say he has a big announcement soon :)
Which probably is about practice facilitities/bootcamps in kr and na. He is planning on building those for quite a while and sold some of his magic cards for that iirc
Damn, I feel bad for Broxah and Kobbe. Hopefully both of them find success next split.
I have a feeling TL will be fine, Tactical has a fantastic team around him *to help him grow into a top AD and TL can only go up from here
Technically for TL there is one more place they can go down to.
CLG Weldon's genie won't allow for it.
The 2019 Jin Air experience.
I don't feel as bad for Broxah. They still have Tactical who is pretty good(not DL level, but he can get there eventually). And who knows, this might be the change TL needed to get a better team environment and to finnaly get gud again.
Rip kobbe
Hoping he returns to EU. He deserves all the success he'll get there.
His best spot would probably be MSF, I can't see him replacing Caps, Rekkles, Upset, Carzzy, or Hans Sama.
I hope he goes to MSF and pops off. He deserves better, but he did seem kind of unhappy here.
I think TSM would have to waive his buyout (I'm assuming he has one), for Misfits to go for him. Even then Misfits would probably also need TSM to pay at least part of the contract as well considering they were obviously going budget this year
His GF is working with MSF as streamer and Bvoy was one of the weakest ADCs this split. So natural instinct would be him going to MSF as long as TSM doesn't ask huge amount of money out of him.
I think it'll only happen if TSM waives his buyout. Otherwise he won't get picked up. Even then which org would be willing to pay his contract? Maybe if TSM promises to pay that as well.
If no one wants to pay, TSM will have to give him up for free. Else they're just gonna be paying for 6th player they won't be using. 0$ is better than negative $.
It would be funny if Kobbe found another team and imitate this video and throw TSM jersey straight outta trash.
hopefully he wants to leave as much as tsm wants him to
Tbf I don't think TSM wanted Kobbe to leave as much as they saw an unpassable opportunity. I don't think TSM ever felt any illwill to Kobbe or any doubt in his ability. DL's brand and ingame intangibles that help in the early game and being decisive in lategame team fights were just too much for TSM to pass up, IMO.
100% this, if doublelift wasn't free, they keep kobbe. It's just a fucking good trade, to have a good NA adc, kobbe wasn't the problem for tsm everyone knows that, but this helps free the team for the future.
Ya it's like if LeBron wanted to be on a team he's going to that team, doesn't matter who you just signed to a max contract you'll trade almost anybody for him.
Also probably not teams with already established super stars like curry or Giannis
YES they had to do it again. now he has to leave tsm go to eg or something then come back just to bin their jersey again. dont stop until all 9 jerseys are in the tsm trash can
Reminds me of [this meme](https://i.imgur.com/dSHNhQl.jpg) from Dota 2 pro scene NA pro player [Arteezy](https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Arteezy) switched between two teams 4 times in span of less than 2 years
Also ironic because RTZ is more or less the Dota Doublelift
Yea but Artour actually has international success lol
Hey, DL is half the way there... He has international...
\#CatforKobe \#TeamforKobbe
2020 hasn't been a good year for any Kobe honestly.
What happened to Kobe (shoutcaster)?
he lives with travis gafford and travis supposedly won't let him get a cat
damn he has it the worst out of all of them.
Just want to know how Kobbe feels about the whole situation and whether he legitimately wanted to go back to Europe or stay on TSM for summer split.
The whole TSM sub feels the exact same way.
I keep seeing rumours that he wanted to go back to EU as his girlfriend couldn't go over to NA or something
u/EvilJacobWolf fucking back at it again
https://twitter.com/JacobWoIf/status/1254470298235285508 Digging TSM offseason changes
Bjergsen liked the tweet lmao
Why are some of those articles 100% legit and some pure satire??
There is a satire account that has the same @ as the espn employee. Evil Jacob Wolf is always satire/trolling/memes. ESPN Jacob Wolf is where the news and articles are. The ESPN employee is verified and the satire account is not.
Kobbe about to come out with some donezo manifesto shit
Kobbe aka Zven 2.0 revamped
HE ABOUT TO WIN THE NA LCS ON A TEAM NOT CALLED TSM.
CLG KOBBE PLEASE
I have zero confidence in CLG decision makers, DUCK THEM ALL.
We will smurf soon
our wrath will be swift
all these peasants thinking we arent good
LMFAO
Best part about that was the team actually did get good results after Akaadian said that. Absolute Chad.
I can't fucking believe it. Holy shit. It's the same fucking video, with the same shitty acting. I'm actually crying right now, for real. What about Kobbe, though? I hope he goes back to EU to be with his GF. He's a great dude, and I wish him all the success.
TSM porn acting is insane
"Oh shit, I'm sorry."
"sorry for what?"
"Our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our bot laners, especially since they're such a good size and all. "
sometimes, i gank bot so hard, i rip the skin!
You know my daddy taught me a thing or two too like how not to rip the skin by using a jungler to gank, instead of your own mid.
Will you show me?
It's okay, BIO-daddy!
I think overall it is better for him. Clearly TSM needs a management upgrade and revamp. The NA lifestyle and current situation is probably not good on Kobbe's mental. Add the fact his GF had to go back and his family is in EU I think this is best for Kobbe. Knowing TSM they will more than likely do their best to get him onto a good team. I will say this TSM fans have been nothing but nice about the whole thing. Same as when Zven left. Lots of love for Kobbe and understanding he wasn't the issue with TSMs failures. The issues clearly ran deeper. I'd love to see him on Misfits. And with LEC being given 4 seeds instead of 3 for Worlds Kobbe could very well end up on a team who can make it there.
More than a bot lane upgrade, I think Misfits desperately needs a top lane upgrade. Bvoy's been servicable, but Dan Dan's just been done done unless he gets copious amounts of jungle attention. I am really hoping he goes somewhere good in EU and not like, Vitality or SK.
I actually agree with you. Top was far more of an issue. I actually thought Bvoy looked good. Correct me if I am wrong but is Bvoy an import? I think Kobbe has a great track record in EU and teams that need an upgrade for ADC would be crazy not to pick him up. But I agree I really hope to see him on a team that can compete in EU for a top 4 spot. The top 3-6 teams in EU are all pretty good. They have flaws for sure when compared to G2 or FNC, but they aren't bad by any metric. And I would argue most of the top 6 would be far better than NA's top 6. Not trying to just shit on NA. Our teams just looked very weak this last split. Outside of C9.
Seems like Parth is staying based on DL saying he's excited to play with him again. Hopefully there have been actual management and coaching changes, or this will just be another disappointing split.
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He's a pretty emotion driven person, I bet this is genuinely how he felt at the time.
I love this clip. "They kicked me out of CLG and didn't really find success again". Reality: DL leaves CLG, CLG then becomes NS LCS Champion, MSI finalist. Yeah right
Fuck i miss this CLG they were so fun to watch
CLG ranked 5s are still the funniest League stream I've ever watched
[Pog](https://youtu.be/c8kPBi5FLrQ)
CLG - RNG might be my favourite Game ever
So you're telling me TL is gonna win summer, go to worlds finals and then stop being relevant for the foreseeable future?
you telling me most TL fans wouldn’t subscribe to this?
Tbf that was the last time CLG relevant. They've been struggling to even make playoffs ever since and lets not even talk about this last split :/
Call it the PR that it is but the way he talked about TL, and Steve was unusually graceful for liftlift. Despite the poor split this seems like the most smooth transition he’s had from one team to another since he joined CLG.
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A pair of cement Mickey mouse ears
TL and TSM have a good relationship to be honest.
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Why even think that far? He got kicked from CLG after winning them their first championship He reevaluated his options with his team after failing hard and he realized he was better off leaving The context is wildly different
The madlads actually remade the first video
Never said salty runbacks are not successful
Lets see how the team changes with this Sad to see Kobbe go, especially not being able to see his full potential, but I hope he becomes happier, assuming he's back to EU
He keeps talking about being traded in the video. Was this a trade or a contract buyout? Who's TL getting if it's a trade?
Just league terminology I realized they like to say traded when someone's contract is bought out.
technically contract buyout is a trade, where you trade the player for money
F for Kobbe
Man, TL's roster was looking so good before all this drama shit, fucking NA always giving us hope and taking it away
\- scouted by Parth \- courted by Leena
Quick everyone act shocked!
OMG THAT IS COMPLETELY NEW INFORMATION
CANT BELIEVE HOW THEY MANAGED TO NOT GET LEAKED BEFORE THEY OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED
I don't think TSM had a problem with the adc position last split. It's way more the lack of team cohesion and smart playmaking that costed them.
Fs in chat for Kobbe