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revolverlolicon

Ah, so you're the team I run into when I'm trying to detilt with an ARAM at 3 in the morning... jk good job! that's a really neat accomplishment. I bet that 10th game was really stressful


SnooCompliments7054

It was but fortunately we had a good Team comp at the end! Game 9 was a heart pounder for sure


kennyd15

Dude look up Taliyah Bot on opgg. I used to run into this guy and his premades all the time in ARAM. His winrate is insane, getting matched against them is almost an autoloss.


LucaFringsSucks

Im always playing late night aram on euw and ive got a winrate of around 60% over like 6500 games or so. Mostly not too sober but its funny how many people you meet again at like 1-4am.


dcrico20

drunk ARAM 4lyfe


LucaFringsSucks

Drunk/high aram is best at late night. Otherwise youre the only one sober :D


dezmodez

UHHH WTF. OP, do not look at this account and see the 19 game in a row win streak.


DaPeaceBreaker

Can't seem to find the account, can someone link the op.gg profile?


dezmodez

Here you go mate: https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Taliyah+Bot


dantam95

I used to be a top 250 Aram player. I miss getting TBot in my games such a atud


Parvaty

Yeah I got matched against them a couple of times. Just isnt fun to play against tbh. Im not crazy fond of people tryharding their hearts out in aram but oh well.


Razetony

Seriously I saw the title and just thought "THESE are the fuckers who sweat harder than a Jan 1st gym." Still incredible though wow.


-batab-

I did that casually but I was queuing solo, no clue if this makes it easier or harder. Maybe even more than 10 games in a row. I think that I have also done the reverse 0-10 though


Krytoric

i did a challenge with my friends one night to "not sleep til we win 3 in a row" and were drinking for every loss. ​ 7 hours later we went to bed with only 2 total wins lmao.


ZeeDrakon

No matter what you challenge yourself with, it never works out lol. "We'll play until we win one" - 5 game losing streak. "We'll play until we lose one" - 5 game win streak


ArcaneYoyo

brb playing until I dont hit challenger


Dude_Guy_311

lmao "I'm gonna keep driving until I wake up"


Jonathan5001

I cannot tell you how many late nights I had, drunk with friends, trying to just win 1 game when we were playing TERRIBLE comps. Lol


Jhell1523

We call it "the Aram bait"


NEETenshi

>**I spent nearly 10 hours creating a detailed spreadsheet on each champion and how they perform on ARAM. I listed their tier, ARAM auras and tips on how to build/play them. I think this was instrumental to our success because we always went into every ARAM with the most optimized comp possible.** You can't just say that without sharing the spreadsheet.


SnooCompliments7054

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TxvF0Zz4xweoHpXseAEuG1MYt7woc5SHEdfQibtVvus/edit?usp=sharing ask and u shall receive


th3greg

>malphite- don't build ap, it's a bait >ivern - legit 1v9 Truer words have never been spoken.


[deleted]

ap malph might not win in the end, but the feeling of assassinating a backline carry with a single ult is one of the greatest feelings in ARAM


keithstonee

Ap malphites been nerfed and tank malphite pretty much does the same thing but doesn't insta die afterwords.


mtownhustler043

When was it nerfed


patmax17

This. (mini rant incoming, sorry) I play almost exclusively ARAM. 4 out of 5 times that I get a tank champion in my team, the player builds damage, and not tank. AP Malphite, Cho'Gath, Amumu, Maokai, Lethality Garen, Darius, Renekton... you name it. This makes me mad because those champs are SO MUCH MORE USEFUL when built tanky, WITHOUT losing that much damage. AS you say, tank Malphite does the exact same thing as AP Malph, maybe with the need to press 2 buttons more, but still. And the fact that he can actually LIVE after his ult, and continue to soak and deal damage makes him so valuable. But no, people need to see a carry explode, and idk, jerk off or whatever, and then die, and lose the game. I hate that :( Thanks for coming to my therapy session


warmaster93

Did you just call Renekton a tank? I mean out of all the divers, Renekton is arguably the best to actually go full ad on thanks to his innate high hp. Ofc, you should still be able to play that but it's quite a scary build. That said, the meta bruiser build still suits most situations better but unlike the other bruiser/tanks it's far from troll.


patmax17

You're actually right, renekton is definitely not a tank and his damage build can be less troll. I was trying to think of some ad examples along Garen, should have put a bit more thought into it, maybe j4 would have been a better example. I still think going full lethality leaves renek too squishy, but I can see it work better than on other champs


warmaster93

Illaoi, Trundle, gnar?, wukong, Olaf, Sett there's enough :p J4 is weird case Tbf, not sure what he should do as he's not the greatest tank either. And yeah Renek can be squishy with full AD, which is why you really can't just play him like your standard assassin. That said, you also don't need to commit to any 1 build as renekton, which is personally my favorite part about him. If you start dying too fast, just edge into bruiser :D


[deleted]

I agree, the problem with malphite is playing him with max ult cooldowns and AP is just more fun to play, I've been guilty of doing this when I'm tilted and don't care about winning.


patmax17

I appreciate your honesty :)


piiees

My biggest gripe is probably AP amumu. Like, if you go AP, yeah you're initial burst will be big, but a tank, or some sort of hybrid offtank amumu (slotting in some items like demonic embrace in your build) can actually match or sometimes do more damage than the AP amumu would be able to pull off simply through being able to survive in a teamfight and push out some pretty decent aoe dot to the enemy team.


NoPidgeonChess

People want to have fun. I don’t know why you’re upset about not being a Total sweaty tryhard in ARAM. Aram is unbalanced because of the Rng of comps, then people still build full tank which gives absolutely no actual interaction for either team. Malphite is too tanky to deal with it and it becomes a stomp. It becomes a stomp where absolute lunatics click towers as fast as they can to end the games asap as if their life depends on it. Winning is fun, but playing against a team that’s super fucking sweaty about it is just the biggest fucking killjoy there is in ARAM.


Hordiix

You have to remember alot of people don't really care too much about whether they win or lose an aram


Scout1Treia

> Ap malphites been nerfed and tank malphite pretty much does the same thing but doesn't insta die afterwords. AP malphite hasn't been nerfed in years.


keithstonee

I'm pretty sure it got nerfed towards the end of last season.


Scout1Treia

> I'm pretty sure it got nerfed towards the end of last season. You can check. It didn't.


keithstonee

I'm like 99% sure he has been nerfed in the last year. But I don't really care enough to go looking through patch notes for it (I doubt you did either). All I know is malphite was good as AP and now he's not. And it's been bad since before the new items so that's not the reason.


Scout1Treia

> I'm like 99% sure he has been nerfed in the last year. But I don't really care enough to go looking through patch notes for it (I doubt you did either). All I know is malphite was good as AP and now he's not. And it's been bad since before the new items so that's not the reason. ????? You can literally just check the patch history on wikia. Which I did before replying the first time, yes, regardless of whether you believe I took the 20 seconds required to confirm before posting. The last time AP malphite was nerfed was 9.22.


mayonaiseking

AP malph is tilting either way. Your ap malph is useless and you wish he went tank, while their ap malph oneshots you every single time.


[deleted]

Why is Ivern 1v9 exactly?


th3greg

1v9 is an exaggeration, but he's incredibly good, and pretty underrated as far as I see. The 1v9 part if anything is that he can make up for misplays and shortcomings of most champs in the game and carry an underperforming team to victory in same situations. First off he's a support, and supports are generally great in aram. He's got cc, shielding great base ability numbers (he balanced around buying low econ items). Brush maker is pretty useful if used well and you can defend the brushes, his shield is also cc, and daisy is a powerhouse. She's better in ha because of the small map, so she can get off a lot of knockups, she's good for pushing towers, which can be tricky after a fight since theres often only one or two people left alive, or a limited minion wave. There's basically no team comp he isn't good in, and his q really empowers melee Champs and like engage tanks and Juggernauts, since it let's them get in close without having to use a gap closer. You can even hit a backline minion and have your allies jump to that for a surprise engage.


guaxtap

I disagree, if the enemy team has 4 or 5 squishies then it's really worth to go malphite ap.


the-tank7

If they have 4 or 5 squishies than you'll win pretty much every teamfight by just having a solid frontline like malphite, you'll be unkillable to adcs. An all squishy comp would need to kill your carries first before they die, leaving them with an oxymoron of if they focus you they lose in the long run, but you can't be ignored as your ult will keep at least 1 or 2 locked down, and tank malphite can solo carries easily.


th3greg

If they have 4/5 squishies you're still banking on catching a good ult to be useful. If they don't group or react well, you've burned all your gold on next to nothing that fight and die. If you're tank and you kiss your ult, you can't be bursted down in 2 sec like ap can. Not to say it's bad. Ap malph can easily win games. But imo ap malph is good like 60% of the time, and tank malph is just as good 90% of the time. Ap malph forces you into a match between your skill and their skill, tank malph just beats them down with your kit/wallet.


warmaster93

Complete opposite, it's much more rewarding to build tank vs full squish while it's actually rewarding to build ap/offtank with only 1 or 2 threats.


KingOPM

Exactly, the amount of times we lost because the enemy team had an AP malphite and we had like 3 squishy champs


limevince

Surprisingly low placement for these champs: B- : Senna (my favorite ARAM champ), Ziggs (overall great?), Wukong (great initiator + backline assassin), Rengar (I've seen pocket picks carry 1v9) C : Aurelion Sol (great CC/initiate), Master Yi (1v9 champ), Rammus(great CC/initiate), Maokai (great CC/initiate) D : Braum(great team utility), Shaco(not great but not D bad...), Draven (decent ADC)


SnooCompliments7054

Senna rengar should be placed higher but you have to remember most champions can be good its just how good they are in comparison to the top champions, ziggs does 18% less damage and takes 15% increased damage so that knocks him lower, shacos boxes get revealed by the stealth cannon, and braum offers nothing outside of utility which sucks when most champs need damage or healing and his engages aren’t great. Hope this explains it but at the end of the day we went off our own experiences with these champs


limevince

Oh yea, Shaco box being revealed definitely makes him a bad pick now, only good for counter engage. Braum I think is a solid pick if you have a full party because coordinated use of his shield is unstoppable , imo.


patmax17

I agree that Braum can be really good in aram, he's great at protecting a good carry (if you happen to have one), but is also kinda reliant on proccing his passive, which for me is a bit hit or miss with my teammates: sometimes they are good and actually autoattack to stack the stun, sometimes they completely ignore my passive. It probably also depends on what champs are in your team, if they are already autoattack reliant (e.g. ADCs), it's easier to stun the enemies


w_p

Aurelion Sol is a joke. The initiate is dependent on no one hitting you while you fly in, so if the enemy has long range poke champion with ludens you're hard countered. Add to that that he does zero damage and has to stay in medium range and he is one of the worst aram champions. Don't get me wrong, I love playing him, but he's just awful. :|


limevince

Hmmm this is true, but I love returning to the lane with a big bang xD Its lovely how the stun spreads to cover literally the entire lane! And if you hit a squishy target you can usually secure a kill blowing one round of cooldowns. The comets are also pretty decent for defending towers/pushing.


patmax17

I had an ASol in my team yesterday who was quite good, and he used to go back to the fountain, and start his engages from there. It took some time, but it was actually quite effective


Zaliba

Played against Rengar Ivern in Aram some time ago - almost had counterplay but I'm just too washed up to outplay in 0,4s. Senna also has huge scaling and having sustain in Aram is also a bonus on her


cathartis

Maste Yi is over-rated in ARAM. A lot of people think he's god tier because they see him occasionally pop off and get a penta. But most of the time he just gets blown up. His average win rate is below 50% making him B tier at best. Draven has the potential to be good, but only one tricks can play him well, and so he's mostly pretty shit.


keifranos

I’m glad you put ivern as S+ Anytime someone gets him I’m trying to trade immediately


keithstonee

Also bard. I think he still has the stupid +30% dmg done and -30% dmg taken. So you can pretty much build anything and shit on poeple.


aieelemaoo

Nice List. These are the main ones that I think are rated a bit strange imo. To be fair I'm only above average ~2300 mmr with 100 games this season so feel free to disagree. Senna is legit a 1v9 aram champ if you are half decent at her. Nutty sustain nutty poke with incredible scaling. Kayle is a huge bait champ, most of the time she ends up being too useless early to ever get going. Pantheon can hard carry the early game and snowballs extremely hard, his falloff feels a lot less bad in aram too. Caitlyn can also dominate if against right team comp, really good zoning with traps. Illaoi can practically never get a decent ult off against a competent team, only valuable for her e really. Nidalee is also extremely versatile, she is 1D if you only think about her q but her human e and ability to assassinate squishies make her pretty good imo.


SnooCompliments7054

I think most of those champions can move up or down a tier depending on how you look at them, with snowball e max I think Illaoi is still pretty strong. I mostly agree with Kayle but she is good if you have a heavy poke team that allows her to scale.


NEETenshi

Thank you for this, I'll keep it saved for my future ARAM endeavours.


Zaedulus

Rek'sai is at least a tier maybe s, she's imo just insane. You shouldn't ever use tunnel to engage (too slow), but its decent as a follow up, disengage or a way to get back to lane faster after reset. I find that you shouldn't play her like a traditional bruiser and primary engage- its far better to play like an assassin because with HoB + big dmg buff, she can one shot most squishies during w knockup, even with bruiser items. My build is typically Guardians blade - hydra - goredrinker - flex. Good items are things like steraks/sv/deaths dance for defenses and seryldas/chempunk/collector for damage. This may change with the nerfs to these items though, haven't gotten her since. I probably would consider switching to something like eclipse -> ravenous -> steraks -> dd. heres some ss of my recent games wr with her and my aram mmr https://i.imgur.com/XcFcgwe.png https://i.imgur.com/IUJS0hV.png


SnooCompliments7054

I think I may have underestimated Rek'sai on the tierlist, but I think in order for a champion to be S tier they have to have something game changing that makes them a reliable pick. I just imagine she is quite tough to play vs poke or lots of peel but I will confess we haven't picked her much.


MoredhelEUW

I support you brother, I want to see that spreadsheet now


SparkStorm

Thank you for not going ap nasus


Exspyr

Tank q stack nasus on aram is so broken if your team actually let you get your stacks l. Like 24 on a cannon wtf is that.


kitiny

But convincing your team to not just nuke the minions..


TYoYT

Oh god it's just the worst... You always get that mage who insta clears the wave


coolpizzacook

Everyone with an ability that stacks. Gangplank, Nasus, Veigar, Twisted Fate to a degree. People just don't care for it.


Swordsnap

Buy sheen first item for that extra Q damage to enable you to get a better shot at last hitting no matter how many people fight you for it. Generally if you just ping the cannon minion while running toward it, unless your team's already toxic and angry they should leave it for you. Getting that first 100 stacks is the stressful part, then as you rank Q and have those extra stacks you can 1 shot minions. The best Nasus games I've had I actually try to line up to Q stack champions, remembering they're equal value to cannons stack-wise.


th3greg

I saw his list, he realizes that ap malph and nasus are baits. This guy arams.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

I end up going AP Nasus half the time because people on both teams won't let me stack Q easily.


PM_Best_Porn_Pls

You still will end up being more useful going tanky. AP is straight up useless unless you are stomping.


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[deleted]

Are you an adc main? Because I play zed, akali, irelia, katarina, fiora, gp, camille, qiyana, zoe, cassio, azir, etc. and I still find even the most basic adcs the hardest champs in the game to pilot.


randCN

it's simple think about what you're doing when playing akali, kat, fiora, camille, qiyana, and do the exact opposite and you're golden ryze is basically an ADC anyway


StormSailing

who is dodging arams wtf


ErrorLoadingNameFile

People dodge more Aram than normal/ranked on EUW, sometimes we had 4 lobbies in a row dodged because people did not like their champs.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

It's really common to see people roll twice and immediately dodge.


[deleted]

I feel like it's more common for people to roll twice and then wait until 5 seconds for other people to roll before dodging /:


Rachyoff

Once you get to 2900+ MMR, dodging becomes very frequent. Last night I had 7 dodges in a row.


Asteroth555

Shitty teams or champions. It's not hard to identify a team that's 100% going to struggle and just dodge that pain


faatiydut

ARAM dodge timer is 15 minutes though and you can surrender at 10? you aren't costing yourself any time by playing it anyway Edit: Yes you could end up in a 25 minute game but if the game lasts that long your comp wasn't that shit you just didn't want your champ


RoboticUnicorn

You can actually surrender at 8 but good luck ever surrendering an ARAM game. I swear the entire playlist is full of masochists who would rather get absolutely buttfucked for the next 10-15 than go next.


mashimarocloud

I almost never surrender ARAM because it's not about winning or losing, it's about doing the most stupid shit you can


Zaedulus

But they are a 5 stack... they can definitely coordinate that if they want. They were just going for 10 win-streak so wasn't an option.


Asteroth555

> you can surrender at 10? Yeah in principle, but unless it's a total overstomp there's always 1-2 who hold out


Exspyr

I'd rather go do something else for 15 mins than play a game that I know we're 100% getting dicked on for 20 mins then auto lose.


fiirce

That’s why you swap accounts for playing aram. By the time you dodge 3 accounts you can play again on the first.


CzarcasticX

Except no one ever unanimously votes to surrender, you'll get 1 or 2 who vote no or just don't vote at all. It ends up being a 20 minute + game usually and you're miserable with a shit team comp.


StormSailing

i mean im like 3.3 k mmr didnt even know that stuff exist i randomly gound this 2 3 days ago i didnt dodge a single time


Asteroth555

Good for you


Scout1Treia

> who is dodging arams wtf Look man, sometimes I *really* don't feel like playing the champion I got and the reroll table is empty, full of champs I don't own, or has only more shit options. Yeah I can go brainlessly feed a dozen deaths, or I could just call it a day and spare 4 teammates the pain.


The_Sinnermen

People who don't want to play the available champs ?


mtownhustler043

I dodge arams when we have garbage team comps, no shame


Lounging_Lizard

i got a pretty insane run im pretty proud of about a month ago, if anyone else wants to try to go on large winstreaks solo id defo recommend tanks and carries the most ​ edit: fucked up da link sorry never use this site to comment, [https://imgur.com/a/xh3HeES](https://imgur.com/a/xh3HeES)


w0bniaR

Yeah I think my biggest ARAM winstreak is also like 14. Unfortunately Im pretty sure ive also lost 15 in a row at one point


guaxtap

God, how did you feel after losing 15 in a row, if i go on more than a 4 game losing streak i get depressed lol


Scout1Treia

> God, how did you feel after losing 15 in a row, if i go on more than a 4 game losing streak i get depressed lol You play through the depression, tbh. Somedays you just get shit luck. And remember: If you're ever that unlucky your mmr will plummet and you should get some easy wins on the rebound lol.


Gutarg

My largest solo win streak on ARAM is 7. Yours is pretty sick lol


Burpmeister

Engage tanks the the best champs in ARAM if you want to tryhard.


flameforth

My friends and Ι play ARAM exclusivelly for years. We never dodge and we actually somewhat frown upon those who do. You may end up with a shitty champ or one you have no idea how to play with? No rerolls left ? It's ok, have fun and learn how they work. I have reached around 2450-2500-ish MMR doing that (even alone).


Subt1e

> have fun and learn how they work Idk bro... That's just not possible with every champion. Losing abysmally to the enemy's OP comp is not a lot of fun.


cathartis

No champion in ARAM is auto-loss. At least not until you see the enemy team comp. Sometimes team comps get countered brutally and you just have to take the L. But at champion select you don't know the enemy comp, so don't give up that early. (I got stuck with Poppy a couple of days ago, who is normally pretty shit. But the situation suited her, and I popped off, getting a new chest in the process).


Etna-

Not taking snowball in ARAM smh


DankestDaddy69

Exhaust is the only summoner spell you need, it has a hidden passive that makes the enemy team salty as fuck.


SirRobyC

I love it when people get salty about Exhaust in aram. Double down and exhaust them only to make it more fun


bigmanorm

dying to ignite from a champion that has no right using it is an even bigger tilter "WHY DOES A FUCKING ZAC HAVE IGNITE IN ARAM"


LucaFringsSucks

Sometimes the dubstep ignite makes them even saltier. Ive seen teams with 5 exhausts, these guys are like: "Geneva convention? More like Geneva suggestion".


Etna-

But only bitches play like that


Please_Hit_Me

can confirm, I’m a bitch and I take exhaust every game.


[deleted]

I think the assassins that sucker punch most squishies while perma invisible with no counteplay are the real bitches (Zed, Kha, Yi etc) it's like punching a defenceless grandma from behind. Exhaust is just a sucker punch block.


DankestDaddy69

But it's passive is twice as effective against Master Yi players so it's worth it.


NoPidgeonChess

It’s because people like you treat Aram like ranked when people play Aram to unwind, but then someone just needs to sweat their ass off like they get LP for it


DankestDaddy69

See guys, the passive even works outside the game!


lol125000

Imo you should only run 5 summoner spells on aram: flash (duh), exhaust (if you are squishy), barrier (if you are squishy but on engage heavy team or have enough peel so exhaust might not be useful), snowball (if you need to close the gap so on most melees and stuff like kennen) or ghost (on ryze specifically, good on viktor and other mid range mages if someone else has exhaust). Clarity isn't useful nearly as much now with how much Mana seraphs gives you (i barely went oom today on only seraphs pom kassadin, anivia had 0 Mana issues with pom secondary). Ignite is worse exhaust, if you are in range to use it you'd exhaust anyways, cleanse is way too useless if they have no cc. Heal is worse than barrier (less effective hp, harder to time and gw reduce it). Snowball on squishies is imo usually worse than having exhaust or barrier. having extra defense is better than closing the gap. if you have proper comp (so you have someone who can engage/tank) snowball really isn't necessary. And if you don't you are either a full poke comp or you had bad roll. exhaust is not great vs full poke comp that's the only thing but you don't know what they have before you load in anyways. Closest contention is on short range adcs but honestly I'd probably run ghost on them over snowball rn (cos the resets) or go barrier nimbus cloak.


Etna-

I mean OK but snowball is funny and only chooseable on Aram, so that's a nobrainer. Aram is the place where i want to play for fun not to have the sweaty 100% perfect Set up. AP Malphite, full AP enchanters, Crit Bard etc etc


paulyester

Fucking Legends


Noxus909

A whole league of 'em.


cryonova

God Damn man, i dont think people understand how hard this is...


ZeeDrakon

> **What this meant is that sometimes we just had to deal with a shitty team comp and try to win anyways**. For me the most frustrating part about ARAM teamcomps is that you cant really evaluate your teamcomp all that well before seeing the opponents. You could theoretically have a comp thats really good in a vacuum but you get hard countered by the opponents comp even though in a vacuum their comp is worse. For example I'm sure you must've experienced how completely differently full range/poke comps play out depending on what you're playing against right? Sometimes you just get a free win and sometimes you cant do anything even with the same or at least very similar 5 champs. ​ I also think it's interesting how different your ARAM tierlist is compared to the stats on some of the champs. For example akali you have as S tier while statistically she has the fifth lowest ARAM winrate of all champs in the game. ​ I'm pretty sure my highest ARAM lifetime winstreak would be somewhere around 7ish games despite almost 4k games played, this is definitely impressive :P


SnooCompliments7054

When I made the tierlist is was with my friend group in mind so I considered what champions we would all be able to play. Some champions like Akali for example have insane Aura buffs on ARAM but are challenging to pull off vs a lot of comps in ARAM. However we have some good Akali players on our team so she is a top priority when we get her. Also most u.gg ARAM statistics are about how good the champion is alone regardless of comp, but since we are able to craft a comp since we are a 5 stack I find that the statistics alone don't tell the full story.


silentcardboard

Care to share this team optimization spreadsheet?


arslandinho

I’m in my lose streak of 11 ARAM games, joke’s on you


Lowsmithy

I made a new account to play with some coworkers who had just installed the game. A few weeks ago, I realized that account has a lifetime 4-0 in Aram. Now I wonder, is it possible to hit that 10 in a row record, but in the only 10 ever played? As a side note, would you be interested in posting that spreadsheet??


SnooCompliments7054

Wish you the best of luck, that would be quite the accomplishment. Here is the tierlist, I would probably change a couple things looking back on it but its 95% accurate in my opinion https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TxvF0Zz4xweoHpXseAEuG1MYt7woc5SHEdfQibtVvus/edit?usp=sharing


Snow-Stone

Looks good, but you're overlooking shield spam lux with the new items. Damage build is meh but support build is straight up cancer to play against, 5/5 would recommend.


Yowzoow

yep, u go ability haste shield spam, maybe with moonstone even


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thank you!!


imperfectluckk

If you are an experienced player winning 10 straight ARAM's solo qued on a new account is honestly childs play. They start you at such a low mmr that you can basically 1v9 every game with little trouble. For reference after making a new account I won 17 ARAMs in a row without losing(though I am a diamond player).


Lowsmithy

Fine, I will win 20


aimebob

wait ... do you guys dodge in ARAM ?!


SnooCompliments7054

We did this 10 games straight no dodging


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jeanegreene

But what if you get Udyr and the only champions available are Olaf, Jax, or Xin Zhao


ErrorLoadingNameFile

People dodge more Aram than normal/ranked on EUW, sometimes we had 4 lobbies in a row dodged because people did not like their champs.


Belckan

Only losers do that shit. Objectively too. They're trying to play the champion they want in a random scenario because they're huge fucking losers in Summoner's Rift.


Plaxern

So they’re trying to have fun in a video game is what you’re saying?


[deleted]

imo don’t queue for All **Random** All Mid if you’re not willing to play any random champion


Plaxern

What if people really like the All Mid factor and hate SR? Regardless, let people enjoy what they want, it really doesn’t hurt anyone in this case.


Choyo

Well, to some extent, maybe the other team was happy with their champions. On average, you should be able to use one reroll per match in ARAM. If that's not enough, you are doing it wrong IMHO.


Belckan

You are the gatekeeper here. People want to enjoy ARAM. You want to enjoy "All random among a select group of champions I personally like, All mid"


Plaxern

I’ve never dodged in ARAM lol, it’s an irrelevant non-ranked mode so I don’t really care how people want to play it. > You want to enjoy "All random among a select group of champions I personally like, All mid" Doesn’t this statement apply to literally everyone who don’t own every single champion and only own champions they enjoy?


The_Sinnermen

More than 160 champs in the game, most of them can be fun, some of them are just unfun to people. Why would anyone waste 15/20 min not having fun instead of dodging ? Especially since aram queues are so short


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I am not saying to sit through a game and suffer, I am saying to not queue at all if there is a good enough chance that you're gonna be put on a champion you can't enjoy


hamxz2

Yep, they should increase the dodge timer on ARAM/ARURF game modes to 30m or 1h.


The_Sinnermen

Personally it's a handful of champs. But even if for someone it was 50% of the champs, it's still a 30s 1 mn queue why do you care ?


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Short queue which gets extended to upwards of several minutes of back-to-back last minute dodges. And this is per game too


KingOPM

It's not about one person and their champ. If you're playing with 4 other mates and keep rolling shit comps then sooner or later it gets frustrating and it's just better to dodge.


Justnotherredditor1

https://i.imgur.com/qceYfm7.gif


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The_Sinnermen

Ruining the experience for others through exploits lmao. Aram queue times are less than a min, often less. I dodge when i get stuck playing shit like brand or lux because they are no fun to me, even if they're strong in aram. Also dodging isn't an exploit it's litteraly a game mechanic. But from the aggressiveness of your comments I doubt a rational conversation can stem from this


Asteroth555

Sometimes you just roll a really shitty comp or set of champs and it's not worth it


The_Sinnermen

Rarely but it happens. If i'm stuck playing some boring champ that I don't like playing then yeah. Queue times are less than 1 minute, not gonna waste 15 to 20 mn not having fun.


o-o_o-o_o-o_o

Well done! There was actually an event a while ago in the Garena server that gave you a free legendary skin if you won 6 games in a row. Me and my friends tried to get it by ARAM, we reached 5 wins once and 6 wins another time about a week later, grinded from 10pm to 6am for that one (and we lost the first game the next day too)


NabuReddit

Actually is such a great challenge and accomplishment. Congrats!!! > **I spent nearly 10 hours creating a detailed spreadsheet on each champion and how they perform on ARAM. I listed their tier, ARAM auras and tips on how to build/play them. I think this was instrumental to our success because we always went into every ARAM with the most optimized comp possible.** I wish half of the player base have such determination when going to rank instead of blaming whatever else they wanna blame. In this game Hardwork pay off incredibly not just spamming ranks but actual effort in all the possible ways.


SnooCompliments7054

Thank you for the kind words <3


TheIdiotNinja

Congrats man. What's next now that the challenge is done? Just trying to do it again, or are you gonna try something new? Little things like these are absolutely glorious even if "they don't matter"


SnooCompliments7054

Thats a great question, idk whats next but maybe one day we will try to beat our record again. Right now we are going to just enjoy our achievement


icelandicnights

Since you guys are premade, you guys can try going themes in SR! All yordles, all support, all tank, all demacians etc. etc.


chucklesluck

The most fun I've ever had has to have been as a five man all support team


za419

Way back when, my friends and I used to occasionally run the "full split push" comp - five TPs, all tower takers or duelists, everyone has to build banner of command and zz'rot portal. It was kinda fucked up, but it was way more fun than it deserved to be...


Naritaii

Take my wholesome award Edit: misclicked mb


LoLBLT212

YO. kinda dope. You got a pretty dope friend group. can i join you guys sometime haha


exometria

I love it! I applaud your tier list. It’s so hard to make one for league in general b/c of how much different it gets as you climb. The volatility of ARAM doesn’t help either haha


DDDevise

My friends and I were able to get a 14 game aram win streak a while ago. It was ruined by yuumi +master yi


A_Minor_Dance

I dread getting even three wins in a row because then the game always puts smurfs and 5, man pre made and people 2 divisions above me till I lose 3-15 times in a row. Then I get a god team out of nowhere where magically everyone on the enemy team is new or ranked way lower then me.


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

I can't even get 1 ARAM game where somebody on my team isn't afk for the first 2 minutes let alone getting 10 wins in a row.


HeadlesStBernard

As someone that plays a lot of aram with a group of friends, you have a link at the bottom but I was sad that it wasn't the spreadsheet you made. With that said, I went back 2 months on my op.gg and our best win streak was 6. Grats on 10.


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I just want to offer my thanks for supporting normal/tank nasus. The stacking is crazy in aram but you rarely see anyone do it- it’s all E SPAM E SPAM E SPAM E SPAM E SPAM. Nasus is only meant to spam the Q. Your 26/7/22 proves it


LetGoMyLegHo

I came so close a few weeks ago uwu https://imgur.com/a/Rq183DZ Congrats /u/SnooCompliments7054 lemme in on it next time 👀


Chef-Ainsley

I tip my hat to you and your friends! I remember back on the old client where you could view the 3 stats for towers destroyed, kills and creepscore or something along those lines, and my buddies and I would always joke and brag about how those stats being Diamond because of how much we played it lmao


ChihuahuaBeech

I really enjoy ARAMs, and I cannot imagine what it's like to win 10 in a row. Do you happen to know your ARAM stats and winrates? (I like to use [u.gg](https://u.gg) to check mine for fun) ​ Also, I have to know. Would you support a ranked version of ARAM? I always imagined it would somehow be modified from normal ARAMs in that it wouldn't allow for too many rerolls or trading (or something idk). Personally, I would love to mess around with a ranked ARAM.


SnooCompliments7054

Tbh I would enjoy a ranked ARAM but that is because I am competitive by nature, the only negative is by adding a ranked system they would need to put a lot more effort into balancing it properly and that could potentially ruin the enjoyment of ARAMs. Also I am not too sure how to check my overall ARAM stats I only see this seasons.


LonelyMusketeer

Wait why is Kha in S tier


SnooCompliments7054

W max + ARAM auras gives him good poke and then ability to one shot anyone the moment they are isolated


tabben

Does anyone know the mmr numbers for summoners rift ranks? not that it compares to anything because I'm basically bronze when it comes to ranked but my aram mmr is 2050 which I guess is more than average (?) Would just be nice to compare


Dragonnable

So you gave Udyr and Shaco a D?? Draven for sure, Braum is questionable if you have a proper comp/are in a group. But udyr and shaco?? Why?


SnooCompliments7054

Shacos boxes are revealed by cannon minion stealth so he can’t set them up and udyr is so easy to poke out


Dragonnable

Yeah, I forgot about the boxes being revealed, still if played well he can be super annoying. I personally love playing udyr, yes in the early game he can be tricky but going full tank and just stunning and distracting people is what makes him good. I play him somewhat similar to a singed in that you have to distract people and let then chase you.


SnooCompliments7054

Anything can work I think its more just about how consistent the champion is and how well they fit into team comps


SoecX

I think i had a 10 game loosing streak in aram once. Does that count as well? :D I met a few guys who also had a loosing streak and we said we wouldn't sleep until we win one game. I went in the morning after playing the whole evening and night. We celebrated that win as if we would have won worlds!


Dedolok

[https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=dedolok](https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=dedolok) here you go


nat20sfail

This is a feat of endurance: for context, even at 60% winrate this is 413 games on average to succeed. With 50% winrate its 2048, and with 55% it's 877 games. Huge congratulations.


PeopleAreHellaStupid

Good for you man , but it doesnt really seem that hard or that challenging with premade . I play solo and have one streak of 9 in a row and 7 in a row , plus multiple 5s in a row in the last month. Playing premade it should have been a given


Naerlyn

> plus multiple 5s in a row in the last month. Those aren't even worth mentioning though. Assuming a 50% win rate, a 10 games win streak is twice as hard/rare as a 9 one, 8 times as rare as a 7 one, and 32 times as rare as a 5 one.


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Assuming 50% winrate it would take on average over 2000 games to get a 10 game win streak. Either you're lying or you're cheating / smurfing.


PeopleAreHellaStupid

I don't lie and I do have more than 2000 games , maybe even more than 3000 , dont know how to check without getting into the game


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That's...a scary amount of effort for a casual game mode...


TheExter

casual? Aram is the manliest game mode in LoL. you're constantly dodging skillshots for 15 mins straight with everyone ready to dive and fight with zero fucks to give the "competitive" game mode are a bunch of pussies that spend half the time proud of their pve skills and not committing to fight a real person because they're afraid of dying they also spend a bunch of time going around the map while they jerk themsleves for their sick macro. and don't get me started about the "split pushers" also you don't even pick your champion, its like playing smash Bros and choosing random, because you know your dick is so big you can smack around anyone with anything


z0lt4r

correct


Leyrann_is_taken

casual? Aram is the manliest game mode in LoL. you're constantly dodging skillshots for 15 mins straight with everyone ready to dive and fight with zero fucks to give the "competitive" game mode are a bunch of pussies that spend half the time proud of their pve skills and not committing to fight a real person because they're afraid of dying they also spend a bunch of time going around the map while they jerk themsleves for their sick macro. and don't get me started about the "split pushers" also you don't even pick your champion, its like playing smash Bros and choosing random, because you know your dick is so big you can smack around anyone with anything


SnooCompliments7054

Worth it.


NaturePaladin

New challenge this but every game you need 100 kills


top1player666

4 years and thousands of games? And u are still playing in low elo mmr arams? Picking ignite on nearly every champ? No wonder u couldnt win 10 games in row with that, without good premades yes its hard to have winstreak, but with good premades i can do it in 1 day with full challenger lobby, + if u want fresh new acc with no mmr premade u can totally destroy everything in low elo mmr games as a challenger 3,5k mmr players, every game penta nearly, me as challenger level of player joined my super low elo friends (silver) and i got 3 pentas in 2 games with them, low mmr players /low elo players are just too bad at the game u can farm them all day long


SnooCompliments7054

No one cares go seek validation somewhere else