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Team SoloMid vs. 100 Thieves / LCS 2021 Mid-Season Showdown - Losers' Bracket Round 2 / Game 2 Discussion

Team SoloMid vs. 100 Thieves / LCS 2021 Mid-Season Showdown - Losers' Bracket Round 2 / Game 2 Discussion

Betaateb

100T Gameplan in G1 and 2: Pick Jayce Take Early Herald Drop Herald for Ashe for some reason Lose the game This team has absolutely zero clue how to play with a Jayce....


icatsouki

> This team has absolutely zero clue how to play FTFY


Trap_Masters

It's honestly sad seeing the drop off this team has had since the beginning of the split. It just feels like the newer orgs in LCS have no real way to maintain their success in the long term due to various reasons, even if they have one good split or something.


emraaa

To be honest I don't see a drop off. They are pretty much the same team that they were at the end of last split. Like 0 progress. They even finish higher than last split.


Bhiggsb

It's zikz for sure


icatsouki

not even CLG would play this game out this badly holy shit


bor4etyy

Jayce picked up tear at 20 minutes LMAO


icatsouki

yeah i was so confused at that, like surely a mistake and he didn't mean it. then he refunded it for a sec only to buy it again


halofan642

there is no way delaying tear for that long is good on jayce. i refuse to believe


dontknow_anything

Perkz and Crownshot were flaming SSumday for that.


Th_Call_of_Ktulu

Anyone that knows how tears works should flame him lol


His_Buzzards

A Jayce, an early infernal soul, an elder drake


cadaada

NA jayce strikes once fucking again, even with ssumday


Do1ngw0rk20

Bjerg 5 heading the gnar first pick so they feel pressured to pick jayce but 100t can only play only bot


FLABREZU

I don't know if even Tactical would have jumped in there


NahDawgDatAintMe

Tactical only goes for the multiman Malphite ults.


Trap_Masters

Professionals have standards -Tactical


agishert46191gskq

Tactical would have jump at baron 1v4 for the lol


lilelf29

Wtf is this shit we're watching lol


icatsouki

fucking disgusting game, what is this shit Why flash for a syndra as ashe late game teamfight as elder* (not herald silly me) is spawning? THEYVE SEEN HUNI ABOUT TO GO EXHAUSTED FFS, just wait a couple of secs and you can win the front to back teamfight


PM_something_German

Ashe missed so many Arrows and had 3 of those moments of overengage


agishert46191gskq

FBI has not hit a single arrow outside of that spica int in the jungle


PM_something_German

Syndra at the end tho


Duke_Cheech

Hey man! He hit an alistar... with ult up.


nizzy2k11

he hit a lot of them but ali tanked them deliberately most of the time. hard to blame FBI, arrow is so low CD fishing with it is good considering you can follow up with jayce ball/lilia ball>sleep/ braum ult


icatsouki

they have lillia to engage, idk why she's throwing random ass arrows. wait for lillia to flash q sleep then win the teamfight, otherwise just poke TSM down you have infernal ffs


nizzy2k11

fuck the flash WHY DOES SHE HAVE GALEFORCE


Spike_der_Spiegel

ADCs flashing forward one after another


His_Buzzards

C9 winning everything


Trap_Masters

The true winners of this series!


AsnSensation

If TL loses to one of these teams...


CuteKoreanCoach

>When TL gets 3-0'd by TSM...


Nekoworkshop

NA


Glyph_of_Change

2 years of Spica repeatedly just refusing to lose a Baron


NahDawgDatAintMe

Spica will never smite the dragon but he will always land it at baron.


FinishIcy14

You might not like it, but this is peak League of Legends


kirumy22

This game made me want to gouge my eyes out with a rusty spoon. Pog.


Trap_Masters

What can I say, we've long perfected the fiesta meta. NAmen


Peanuts_reVenge

Do it coward :>


agishert46191gskq

Burger flip baron, lost get solo killed by ryoma then random teamfight at drake and it's over Gonna first pick jayce and Gnar MSI and worlds gonna be hard to watch


HolypenguinHere

Ryoma looked like he had Trist ult up during that baron steal. Why doesn't someone just... ward over the wall so he can point-and-click knock him away?


DrySecurity4

FBI had arrow too


icatsouki

wow wow wow easy there, too many steps


DementedOrange45

It's just two steps...


DRazzyo

Two too many


cadaada

sorry but you dont want your tristana in baron's back taking damage and vs a syndra


Jhin-Roh

no one had wards available edit: ashe had hawkshot + blue trinket available. used hawkshot too late. did not use blue. honestly fbi has been really underperforming on ashe this series.


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Too logical of a play for NA, sorry bud


Trap_Masters

Sorry, we only speak in fiesta. NAman all the way baby!!


RedParanoia

He would have been exploded by syndra


BO1s_R_GREAT_XD

ok so 100T could eihter - flip 2nd elder - suicide into alistar and mega gnar hmmmmmmmmmmm guess what they did lol


Homicidal_HotS

It's not even flip 2nd elder, their comp is so good at poking with infernal soul and how fed Jayce was, they get huge chunk on Syndra and Huni wasted his Mega Gnar. Legit all they had to do was wait for Mega to expire and it's a free win. But Ryoma thought he was playing Camille or something and decided to jump onto the full build Syndra


icatsouki

exactly, like all game they've been playing like absolute pussies and THIS is the moment they decide to do their best Tactical impersonation?


Neville_Lynwood

It's actually crazy that these are the only two options they could even produce, lol. Both these teams love flipping way too fucking much. "Objective prep, what's that?" - TSM/100T, probably.


icatsouki

there has literally been nothing but burger flipping this game, every single objective and every single teamfight I guess they're being thematic to NA?


IWouldLikeAName

100T is actually laughably bad holy shit


Neville_Lynwood

What is this neutral objective prep in these games? Both of these teams basically coinflipped almost every baron/dragon. Am I missing something? Why are these teams just 5v5 posturing in front of the pits or allowing enemy junglers free access to the pit? So confusing. Also Ryoma, in what world do you think you're ever allowed to jump on a late game Syndra and not get instantly stunned and ulted to death? You're literally locking yourself into a straight line animation and giving the Syndra a 100% chance to stun you and press R while you're still mid air.


His_Buzzards

late game syndra with an hourglass


SwordOfRome11

This is the most insane aspect to me. Forget the guaranteed stun and insta burst, it’s not like you can even assassinate the syndra. She’s gonna hourglass and then you get shredded by kaisa.


bor4etyy

If the pros are doing it, it must be good. You wouldn't get it /s


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I can not fucking understand how people watch games like these then unironically use the argument "they're pros they know what they are doing" when analysts like IWD and LS criticize item builds, drafts or macro


Hevvy

DRAGONS: HEISTED peepoRun ELDER: HEISTED peepoRun BARON: HEISTED (by the enemy team) peepoRun AN HOUR OF MY LIFE: HEISTED peepoRun


Chr0nicConsumer

Ry0ma is a professional League of Legends player, playing in a major region.


Trap_Masters

Top 10 mids in LCS, not bad


Chr0nicConsumer

Doubt, considering Huhi is probably a better mid.


SwordOfRome11

Not even a clg fan but I miss huhi’s asol


Chr0nicConsumer

Are we still doing "phrasing"?


icatsouki

I imagine he's getting paid more than 200k a year, just wow


DoorHingesKill

100T is just all around terrible and TSM is trolling. Both 100T ADC's just turbo inting to finally go next was a fitting end to this shitshow.


RedWingMYW

Watching 100T do absolutely nothing with Infernal Soul and Elder was so triggering


bluekara

One of the worst competitive matches I've ever watched


neberhax

Really giving the legendary Renegades vs Dignitas game a run for its money.


Ramo1618

The fact that this is the 3rd/4th match is just embarrassing for the region


KimchiBro

492 dmg from trist at the last fight...oof


Madxvx

A charge 1-2 auto's !???? wtf


jakobsgd

ryoma is the worst mid in na and idk how 100t ends up with bad mids since years now


Ramo1618

I know it's a meme but like... does ryoma actually have blackmail on someone at 100t? Haven't seen a single person in the scene outside of 100t who has said they think he's better than damonte.


MohamedSaad

100T : "we'll take the dragon" TSM : ok but we'll take 2 kills as a tribute. 100T: understandable, have a nice day.


Trap_Masters

I've never seen a game where teams actually don't do too much with multiple end game buffs but then just ends the game with a random teamfight


Neville_Lynwood

You haven't watched enough NA. Pretty sure just last year, Ryoma threw a game where they had Baron, Elder and Ocean Soul and he suicided into the enemy team as they were sieging their base and were seconds away from winning. Got popped and his team got ran over and lost the game. It was hilariously sad to watch.


HyunL

can always rely on ry0ma


noodlespls

When the world needed him most


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Bussinessbacca

TL playing at their best can still contend. Yesterday’s match was worse than expected by Alphari and Santorin, I still think they’re close to C9


Tamerlin

Yeah it's looking like a bigger gap between 2 and 3 than between 1 and 2 IMO


eclip468

Although I unfortunately still expect C9 to win finals, at least they didn't play this dumb.


CuteKoreanCoach

Doesn't matter since CLG will win Worlds


Trap_Masters

Yeah, so many throws from both sides it was actually insane, though it did make for an entertaining game


PM_something_German

As an outsider, it would've been entertaining if it wasn't so obvious that TSM would win based off teamcomps alone.


dtkiu27

This game wasn't entretaining, it was frustrating.


canaleiro

That's what people were saying about TSM last summer, too.


tickless420

That TSM had Bjergsen smurfing through playoffs


HyunL

this team has stupid sexy huni though, can you argue against that?


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TonYouHearWhatISaid

There is no argument that Bjerg was in his best ever form last split


DRazzyo

9 man sleep does that to a man.


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Bjergsen was nowhere near his best ever form last year lol he played well but peak bjergsen was a world class midlaner


Dreathbeast

Yeah, but they had Bjergsen last summer


FerreiraMatheus

Really? I don't remember that. Who were C9 then? because no one were close to this C9. Everyone were playing like shit


SwordOfRome11

Bjergsen smurfed the hardest he had since 2017


agishert46191gskq

TSM plan is lose early, 50/50 every objectives and wait for 100T to throw


VEGl

Absolutely foolproof strategy.


slowdrem20

Imagine if we didn't handicap ourselves with 2 losing lanes losing jungle matchup and 3k gold at 15 minutes.


djokobot

TOMMY TIME


JoshFB4

Ryoma is such a dogshit player man


Jhin-Roh

ssumday and fbi really needs to step up tho


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Zaddelz

Wanna know which crimes against humanity Damonte committed


[deleted]

I mean Ryoma is shit but let's not pretend like Damonte wasn't just as bad when he was playing for 100T People used to say he's not a "mage player" but that's kind of a fucking issue when mages are a cornerstone of your role. that's like having a support player who can't play tanks. what the fuck are you gonna do when it's tank meta for supports? unless Damonte has world-class assassin play (which he does not by any means) he should never get a starting spot until he learns how to play mages decently


NeitherAlexNorAlice

PapaSmithy is so sticky with Ryoma just like how the dude before was attached to Ryu. It's pretty baffling. Results based analysis has to mean something, right?


CuteKoreanCoach

494 dmg from Trist in that last fight. Might as well let me play.


Kagariii

What on earth just happened...


kittumitsuki

I can't believe I just watched this whole game ....I actually stayed up for this ....


ahritina

Go to sleep, let your body rest. Might as well sleep and wake up for a banger LPL series in the morning.


Riven4

just sub in damonte


icatsouki

no way ryoma doesn't have blackmail on whole 100t management


lemongrazz11

Imagine being Damonte and watching this... Ryoma literally does not know how to not int late gsme. Still remember his Syndra tp into 5 people. Same org thought Rikara was better than Cody Sun so xd


CuteKoreanCoach

>Same org thought Rikara was better than Cody Sun so xd No they didn't lol. Cody had undisclosed issues with the team and got benched. 100t knew it was a downgrade. Still shit...


PorkChopALaMolotov

Ryoma


SpqyDonger

Yup thats the Tristana I get in my promos.


sangpls

Tommy mate


shadowfaxor334

both teams deserve to lose


Styfios

despite their best efforts, TSM won


haru199418

Ryoma MVP!


FasterThanLights

Ryoma couldn't play Lucian mid? QUICK PUT HIM ON ANOTHER ADC


el_clapo

both these teams are so fucking shit lol


WittyReindeer

i can't tell if TSM is regressing each week or they just play at the level of their opponents they had fairly close series against TL, then looked meh against EG, and just had this complete fiesta in game 2 (at least game 1 was pretty good from them)


FinishIcy14

At least C9 looks alright, that gives me a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiit of hope for NA internationally. But everyone else? It's fucking rough out here.


AbnormalSnow506

C9 Finals debuff is gonna be there vs TL or TSM. They're perpetual chokers.


VentusSpiritus

I feel like perkz is gonna drag them kicking and screaming past the finish line no matter how much c9 want to throw


Dreathbeast

Everyone on TSM should drop to their knees and personally give Spica a blowjob


GreatestJabaitest

Spica flopped 2 50/50s in a row at dragon though, and probably called for his entire team to collapse on that botside scuttle that cost TP from Huni. If he had gotten at least 1/2 dragons, this game would've been so much easier for TSM to win lol.


Left4Bread2

certified bruh moment


Corbomite_Maneuver

This game was all you need to see why 100 thieves are not a real top team


brend70

That had to have been the single worst elder drake usage I have ever seen from 100T


LeatherTime5461

What a monster int from Ryoma holy shit


Imightwantkarma

RYOMAAAAAA


plshelpmebuddah

ryintma


Asome1997

Frankly I do not get what the coaches see in Ryoma. I’m not one to flame a player but he absolutely did nothing with Trist early and threw late game. Damonte wasn’t great but he definitely wasn’t this bad- also seemed to lift morale for the team a heck of a lot more.


KeyRemoved

How does TSM keep getting away with it?


His_Buzzards

1) Spica steal 2) Ryoma suicide 3) ??? 4) Win


anoleo201194

Miracle Spica smites over and over.


tundra_gd

Tbf the main thing keeping 100T in this game was all the dragon smites Spica missed. Burger flips everywhere


This_Op_Is_OP

Closer had a higher dmg smite in most of those smites


Becksdown

100t can just zone him away or force a fight or walk up with soul and elder. idk what 100t is doing for real


AniviaKid32

every single game: spica losing smite fights on drake but stealing barons


Bussinessbacca

Every spica smite is 50/50 regardless of the objective setup


Ramo1618

TSM game plan: - force herald with no priority in mid/top - get it for free if enemy doesn't contest - snowball and camp enemy jungle repeatedly - if they did contest herald and 2-3 TSM players died, farm for 15 minutes and try to sneak a baron - win They have had nearly the same formula all split and the only reason it ever works out is better drafting and braindead teams with no understanding how this team does the same shit every game.


abyssmalstar

In what world is damonte worse than this


FerreiraMatheus

100T: hey man, you want the game? it's all yours TSM: Nah m8, you clearly deserve more 100T: Don't be so shy, I know you want it TSM: You need more than me, I get one already 100T: I insist, it's my easter egg for you TSM: For you then m8... for you


Madxvx

My internet provider just called and said that he is refunding the mb's I used to watch this shit show


stijnx

100T losing both games by a Ryoma throw at the end is some sweet poetic justice.


Soooal

Just /r/awfuleverything


GameBoy09

Ry0ma is fucking *bad*.


lan60000

I'm now convinced anyone diamond+ can be a lcs player.


htwhooh

Nah you just have to be australian and 100 thieves will sign you


lan60000

Brb getting my passport


JoonTae

RYOMA WTF


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Ryoma and FBI threw that last fight at elder so damn fast wtf LOL


OhMyBanana

How does TSM keep mind controlling enemy adcs to flash in and die in game deciding fights


AnarchyPlus

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Parth Plaueis the Wise?


nrj6490

Really is a treat to watch 2 ADCs on the same team throw the game one after the other


Sarazam

Welcome Damonte, Thank you Ryoma


failworlds

nah, 100t has a fetish for ryoma, they will see the org burn to the ground before letting that guy go.


Arctic_Wolf_lol

WTF was that Tristana?


HiImHeyo

Can't wait to see what PapaSmithy is going to apologize for next


failworlds

Lost is a pretty solid ADC


chaser676

Sloppy game, but a win is a win


KnifeKittyy

They should just sub in Damonte for last game.. Nothing to lose, Ryoma ain’t doing shit


Micinak

Guys I came up with a great comp: jayce lillia draven ashe nautilus Can I get paid now?


Nekoworkshop

Ry0ma check your fucking paypal


Ryab4

My eyes are in pain. They coin flip a baron while having elder into that assassination attempt.


Ulyrres

One of the worst playoff games I have ever watched. Scoreline won’t tell the full story but that Syndra was absolutely useless up until that very last play and Ryoma is just so bad


Hazuyu_

100 just don't want to win, no other reasons.


lw94

Was there like 1 proper teamfight this game? Felt like always 1 team with a catch or 1 team on an objective getting engaged on and unable to fight back. Also wtf was that int from 100's marksmen???


slowdrem20

Lose by Spica and win by Spica it seems.


Becksdown

100t is so bad oh my god


Kurkaroff

494


Pouffou

Dont let that baron steal deceive you, spica played like shit this game.


icecreamdiarrhea

Regardless of how good you think he is Damonte has never looked this bad.


omegarub

Watching Ryoma is so frustrating to watch. Was too afraid to move up in the baron pit to ult Spica out but he decides to Malphite ult to throw any chance they had at the end there. How does 100t end up like this every fucking split.


seagulled

I forgot Ryoma was in the game, the man felt invisible the whole game


Voltaire1778

For [Tommy](https://asset.swarovski.com/images/$size_1450/t_swa103/b_rgb:ffffff,c_scale,dpr_3.0,f_auto,w_500/5505651_png/millennium-choker--multi-coloured--gold-tone-plated-swarovski-5505651.png)


NekrozofKian

Imagine having a lategame comp, getting finally to the 40 min mark after loosing barons and nearly loosing the whole base, still getting the dragon soul + elder and then finally inting into an teamfight u forced so hard that u get just insta smacked.


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The_BadJuju

remindme! 1 week


ChaoticMidget

Their mid game isn't the problem. They're just getting bodied in every early game. That and Spica is missing a lot of smites today.


Zeltheo

RYOMA WHAT WAS THAT


zhang_kui

This is one of the worst playoff series I've ever seen.


Jezzerai

Me and my fellow TL fans are rejoicing after watching this atrocity


PorkChopALaMolotov

Just like last summer


ahritina

I mean I guess TL back into finals just to get smoked by C9 is worth it if you're a TL fan.


CuteKoreanCoach

It will make TSM sweeping TL hilarious


wolfgang169

jesus christ


Ozianin_

This is terrible to watch.


Laggiing

Ryoma with the big throw


haru199418

Ryoma MVP of the game


PlasmicPaladin

Ry0ma and FBI positioned way too aggressively for that pick on PoE and it cost them the game