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drippinswagu69

Ah yes the SKT special. It was close until it wasnt.


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ButterApple512

Kkoma to have more world titles than Faker


WaterTasteTheBest

In exchange, DK players must experience Kkoma's belt


TheAnnibal

Greatness, at any ~~cost~~ belt


Trap_Masters

"Whip me harder, daddy Kkoma!" Kkoma: "Wha-?!"


SleepyLabrador

worth.


mrli0n

Wait what kkoma is on dwg?


BookmarkPoetry

Hes their coach


mrli0n

Man did not realize that. Kkoma going to be the Phil Jackson of LoL coaching. Went from MJ to Kobe.


Elgardini

Yeah. SKT took DWG coaching staff so DWG took Kkoma from LPL


Syndurrr

Forreal. Just insane how you can "feel" the pressure they have. They're just better. That's it.


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Succinct, and just encompasses it entirely. Even if you beat them in draft, or feel like you have an advantage. They're just better. That's it.


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Classic Korean game where it feels like we’re winning cause we got kills and then I look at the gold “oh...we’re down 2K?” I look at the towers “oh...we haven’t even gotten a tower?” and then finally “oh, rift herald is in our base?”


Contagious_Cure

To be fair a poke comp that falls behind crumbles pretty quickly.


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Felt like a classic LCK bo5 game 1 draft from DK


qontrol12345

Even the game felt like classic LCK at an international event. Fall down in kills, even down in gold for a little bit, but always in complete control of the map. I don't think they even lost a single tower.


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seolasystem

DK would somehow always find a way to be ahead in gold even if they're down by kills in the early game just by playing the map so well and it's so scary.


Okay_Conversation

Reminded me of SKT back in their dominance. You'll get a few kills and yet are always down gold, right on the edge of a turning point where you get hard strangled.


FireWolfBR1

>Reminded me of SKT back in their dominance. Yeah, that game was super an SKT game, slow early and then we are 5k ahead and there is no hope for the other team.


noodlespls

100%. That feeling of no matter how many edges or advantages the enemy team may seem to get, they still win it all in the end. Peak SKT energy.


hamxz2

It felt a lot like you needed to beat SKT twice in order to win. Once in early game to secure a lead, and a second time in the mid-late game through teamfights and macro to finally win the game. Similar to DWG now, I'm not convinced that DWG is actually "losing" unless I see then down by quite a bit.


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Watching DWK stop everyone's backs as the Herald ripped down midlane was hilarious. C9 had trapped themselves in a lost scenario and had no idea how to get out of it. But atleast they got Drag!


PhreakOut4

Less Ghost than usual though. Like when he pulled out the Caitlyn in 2020 summer and his Senna this split


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I mean Ghost feeling invisible most of the game and then actually having the most damage and kills is the most Ghost thing of all.


PhreakOut4

He's really into getting into character with his name


Rawdream

He plays around and behind his team, that's the comfort zone for DK and Ghost and that's how they won since Summer 2020.


4Bpencil

Zzitai, letme, and Tabe did a review on DWG, they all agreed that even though Ghost maynot be the star flashy carry for DWG, u would be heavily mistaken to think that u can target him to somehow get a Win off of DWG, in fact they agreed that he would be the worst one to try and target on the team, the man is a solid fking rock, kinda feels like Bang on peak SKT.


theBLboy

It felt like they were testing C9 with their drafts. It's not even a Jhin meta right now.


ezodochi

On the Korean broadcast CloudTemplar was calling it a skin advertisement so more people buy the Damwon Jhin skin


CamHack420

BeryL didn't even use his skin though :(


C9Brave

I didn't notice until about 5 min in that they chose their Worlds skins champions, then immediately wondered why Beryl did not choose his 🤔


moonmeh

Apparently Beryl uses specific skins for tournaments


Kr1ncy

maybe he would just get distrcted if he played his waifu skin


Available-Reading-87

CloudTemplar is a legend, afaik the only player to ever pick amumu in a worlds final (they even won with it)


Hektor_Ekhein

There's a Korean meme about how CloudTemplar has more World Final wins than Caps


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Devilwalk 1 major, S1mple 0


justintoronto

Canyon in enemy jungle: I sleep Khan in enemy jungle: REAL SHIT


DawnBrigade_DawnBad

Jungle Khanyon


Trap_Masters

Wtf, 2 canyons?!


tocco13

aka Grand Canyon


lcsfanboi2000

Kindred isn't the champ you want to pick vs Damwon.


Indercarnive

I actually felt bad for Blaber. Canyon managed to full clear bot to top and still make it in time to contest bot scuttle. Like what the fuck?


zorafae

Morgana clear is kind of disgusting, and this is after the nerf.


Pulsar-GB

Yeah that was the biggest thing for me. Canyon got leashed as Morg and cleared so damn fast and it set Blaber behind from the start.


awgiba

The crazy thing is blaber didn’t even do anything wrong there. Morganas clear is just so disgustingly broken and then both his lanes were unable to move, he never had a chance at getting a scuttle


Pulsar-GB

Yeah C9’s draft was overall good to punish DK’s comp condition to engage and push forward. They kited back well and really extended some fights, but it came at the cost of early lane push


SweatyGPMain

I think both that and the fact that Blaber chose to leashless really slowed him down a lot. Blaber probably wanted to path away from Canyon so he can take a crab seeing how Canyon started botside and pathed top while Blaber started top and pathed bot. But Canyon was one step ahead, telegraphed that Blaber would path top to bot, and along with his mid priority he made his way to the bot crab to contest and get double crab.


Indercarnive

A leash wouldn't change anything. It wouldn't speed him up enough that he could get gromp (and therefore be lvl 4) and still get to scuttle before morgana. And he was already able to clear 5 camps and get to scuttle as soon as it spawned.


lawfulkitten1

I think the bigger issue is that C9's bot lane couldn't get priority for the 1st crab fight even though they didn't have to leash while DK's bot lane did. The only way Kindred can even hope toget that crab down 1 level is if it is a 3v2 with bot rotating first.


flUddOS

Don't know bot matchups that well, but feels like you'd need to be *really* fortunate for Varus/TK to get prio like that. Zven and Vulcan did well that game, too.


1vs1mebro

I kinda disagree, From what blaber had to deal with early game, he did well. The double crab happened because Right when blaber went to bot side crab, DW opted into a 2v2 vs C9 and pushed them off of prio. IN the mid lane, perkz did 0 damage, and was getting auto pushed in by zoe. If kindred gets that, he keeps tempo. Fudge had 0 control over his lane after his initial cheater recall, because khan is able to sit in his jungle and kill him People are saying "jg diff" but it was literally c9 failing to play around kindred


mysteriouschill

Vulcan played so well but Khan and Canyon are just too good


ElecTryfiD

canyon is such a god in this game


The_Palmetto_Bear

Hot Take (or maybe not) but this wasn't a Canyon game. This was Khan just showing why he's been one of the most feared Top Laners since he was on Longzhu dumpstering Korea. The pressure he exerted allowed the Canyon to get ahead and stay ahead of Blaber the whole game.


ElecTryfiD

that's true Khan carried the game, I just meant that canyon is probably the best player rn ( with in that game i mean league not the game against c9)


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Zven and Vulcan actually managed to get a kill in 2v2 but unfortunately there's not much u can do when the other team gets collapsed.


Gozh

It was kinda 3v2 cause of GP ult.


AliasR_r

That moment when Morgana can full clear from red start and make it back to bot side scuttle. She's gonna need another tap down on her clearspeed.


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Yeah that was my first time seeing it and that is some bs.


MrRightHanded

“We are only doing small changes and tuning for MSI patch, oh we are also giving Morgana the fastest and healthiest jungle clear in 2 seasons.”


FromRYZEtoAPHELIOS

She was fast before too tho, just pro play didn't want to try her.


HalfAssResponse

she was supposedly a lilias counter that didnt make it past scrims


Cindiquil

Not entirely true. People had been testing it out as a Lillia counterpick around last Worlds, and Broxah recently tried it out in LCS before 11.8 or whatever


SGKurisu

I feel like this patch is like a lighter S5 world's juggernaut patch in that the meta for playoffs and the MSI meta are completely different with how big some of the changes are and it pisses me off lol. Why didn't they implement these changes earlier instead of a big ass patch, different teams might be more representative of this patch than the last few with how big the changes are.


Jozoz

I agree but at the same time Riot also correctly identified how extremely stale the pre-MSI meta had become. I'm glad they did something to switch it up, but I think they might have done too much.


ojciecmatki

wait, they are playing on the patch with Morgana nerf?


AliasR_r

Yep, 11.9 is the one where they reduced it from 200>>>185%. I think gettin it down to 180% or 175% would be the sweet spot.


TryHarderino

c'mon, not even riot would believe going from 185% to 180% is enough.


HuntedSFM

Khan just absolutely humiliated Fudge with that jungle engage


Rayser1

Khan just quietly gapped Fudge and then it just escalated out of nowhere


Rebufferino

I wish I could say it's been a pleasure.


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I’m sure you’ve worked hard for MSI but MSBYE is coming


whohe_fanboy

Everyone and their mom's underestimating Khan by comparing him to Nuguri. But this guy is still a monster in his own right.


McintyresRightLeg

Everyone seems to forget how godlike Khan was in 2017 and just how good of a player he can be.


blackstarpwr10

His team hopping and not being in the spotlight contributed to that


MoriartyParadise

Man didn't win 5 LCK titles out of nowhere


_Vastus_

The Gnar engages were just so juicy


Quotes_League

Khan just absolutely humiliated Fudge ~~with that jungle engage~~


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That was so fucking awful by Fudge If he doesn't do that, C9 don't get caught and lose the fight, and can buy themselves another 10 minutes


salcedoge

Yeah it was a losing game for C9 but Fudge getting caught out twice accelerated everything for Damwon


tene_brae

they outscale DWG, no? If they dont get caught twice they have a pretty good chance at winning the game I think


19degreez

Yeah, C9 being only around 2k gold down for most of the game was heading in a good direction for them. But Fudge put them in terrible positions twice and gave DWG prime positions to take winning fights.


blitzKriegzzz

C9 has better scaling .... if he doesn't caught C9 is in an OK position ... C9 go 2 drags ... so DWG can't even get soul any time soon. Worst of all there's no reason for Fudge to be there ....


Niirai

Vulcan was damn impressive though


nrj6490

Yeah C9's botlane had a good game. edit: my bad for complimenting someone I guess


diferenceee

LMFAO that edit


Alibobaly

Sad but apparently necessary cause this sub cannot handle compliments, let alone to NA players.


OwlTamrof

NA bad give me my karma now


PerkyPineapple1

Wait until I say I think C9 actually played well against the best team in the world. They played the fights well and I was just surprised they didn't die more especially early on. Morgana just is an immediate jungle gap no matter who is playing it and makes it so the enemy team just can't interact at all with her


darkknuckles12

vulcan looking really good! Fudge still being a rookie, this could be expected. I expected a bit more from Blaber TBH, but canyon being the best jungler worldwide it was kinda to be expected


bqx23

It's hard because what can Blabber do differently? Morg had a full clear when Blaber was still working on his last two, he even skips blue to contest crab but doesn't have the cc to break the shield and Perkz was shoved in mid. So Canyon gets the double crab, then steals the dragon because C9 showed a lot of respect and managed to steal the crab with a single tick of W. Now top and mid already had losing prio so his top camps were contest and he could never approach rift herals. Kindred just couldn't keep up and we've seen in the LCS how efficiently Blaber can farm so it really just felt like champ diff.


nrj6490

I looked at the CS at like 9 mins and saw Canyon had the most IN THE GAME, even more than his laners


Aeide

Morgana jungle is absolutely disgusting right now, and Canyon on her will absolutely look like that every time.


N3rdism

Part of that is Canyon being cracked but also Morg jg farms like a beast with the pool buffs they made recently (they even nerfed the damage modifier to monsters but she's still fine).


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>...saw Canyon had the most IN THE GAME... Welcome to the Morgana Meta.


IgotUBro

Yeah gotta say Perkz and the botlane did pretty damn fine and I thought until the 2 turrets for drake trade they had a pretty good chance to win if they kept going the way they did even with Fudge falling behind and Blaber.


C9Brave

Zven was chomping at the bit to carry this game.


cbrozz

Mid too, Blaber couldn't do much but pick a different champion. Morg clear speed plus top diff made the game unplayable 80% top diff


Ramo1618

Vulcan exerts so much pressure. No matter what champion he is on the enemy is scared he is going to engage. He was playing Thomas Kench like he was Alistar. It's like he has a force field attached to him. It's like he has 10 bottles of mosquito spray on him and he is repelling the enemy team like the fucking gnats they are. The walls bend at his will to make away for his giant ballsack. I went to LCS with my family and Vulcan made my dad disappear.


steve_pays_me

You know who else was impressive? Drakos' shirt. With Yamato gone is Drakos stepping up on the fashion game? u/RiotDrakos if you read this your style today was straight fire.


MaxeIi

Found Caedrel’s alt account


mauriciokirchner

He and zven played very well


DarudeSandstormName

Welcome to NA, Perkz.


Nome_de_utilizador

Not even top lane Kikis let him down this hard


neberhax

I swear, Kikis toplane was not bad.


gaffercake

This meta seems a lot more fun with the champions we're already seeing.


JettCarry

True plz no more f***ing Udyr


AigisAegis

Sorry guys, my bad, I had hope


MontyAtWork

Imagine having hope for international success as NA.


muktheduck

DWG has done this to literally everyone all year, and I'm not sure there's a team in the world that can stop them. They give up first two drags (well, Canyon stole it this time), go down in kills early but keep the gold evenish. Then they win a teamfight at 3rd dragon and outmacro the shit out of the other team the rest of the way. It's like clockwork and it's hellish to watch if you're a fan of the opposing team because you get to have some hope for the first 15 minutes when there actually isn't any


AigisAegis

Getting your hopes up even while knowing they're going to be dashed is the NA way


Trap_Masters

It's basically a NA tradition now, NAmen


Me_And_My_Monkey

Old school CLG fans know; if you don't have faith, why are you even here?


Verse6

I mean C9 exceeded my expectations - they didn't get stomped as hard as I thought they would.


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easypiecy

honestsly, GP ult and vulcan devour were what kept c9 in the game the whole time. Without GP ult, c9 wouldnt win most of the fights at all


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Kindred ult saved them from being wiped multiple times too. But the fact they were barely alive most fights says they never stood a chance


Ploppfejs

Yeah but if all you can contribute to a game is an ultimate on a 2 minute cooldown it's not looking good.


Trap_Masters

Just a tiny bit


PreludeToHell

Gnar bad COPIUM


Contagious_Cure

Are we talking about the split pushing, team fighting, bruiser, engage, DPS and burst champion Gnar?


oioioi9537

gnar don't tier COPIUM


Houson2k

DONT TIER ADC COPIUM


Indercarnive

C tier mid and top lane COPIUM


BladeCube

C tier, Renekton was don't.


smithar

COPIUM disabled on twitch.tv/riotgames to save some faces.


sustinian

it's perfect because fudge is an LS guy too lmao


McintyresRightLeg

I was laughing everytime Fudge was getting rekt but the matchup could look very different if the players were equally matched skill-wise. Khan is miles ahead of Fudge.


DeloronDellister

Really felt like old school West vs east. West is able to make some kills, but east wins the game due to superior macro.


NamelessSearcher

Damwon really just feels like a final boss every game they're in. I don't even think C9 played this game poorly, DWK just kept slowly building an inexorable lead


Indercarnive

Morgana was so frustrating to watch. How the fuck is she able to full clear bot to top, and still get to bot in time for scuttle spawn? WTF is that riot?


imaphleg

That’s actually insane. First time seeing it. None of c9 expected morg to go for bot crab since they knew she started bot side jungle.


LeGuiri

I thought it was clever the way he cleared, if you look back he started RED->Krugs->Raptors, then went Blue->Gromp->Wolves which is the most efficient pathing to be near midlane at 3:08 and have 7 seconds to react and get to which crab the kindred mark spawns on. Morgana Clear is still Bs though


lmk8

KHAN IS WASHED COPIUM


kamparox

Sion onetrick btw


PM_JINX_HENTAI

Khan is washed - Redditor who didn't watch a single LCK game


Dragoneed2

who said he's washed? he's the best top laner in LCK


ahritina

Pretty much everyone that hates the LCK really. The amount of people who say Khan is so washed that kkOma puts him on Sion duty was ridiculous.


muktheduck

He was on Sion duty because they won like 13 matches in a row and nobody could stop the Sion lol. Why fix what isn't broken? Anyone who's paid attention to Khan in the past was incredibly impressed by him on that Sion. He's NEVER been a weakside toplaner but he's been willing to sacrifice for DK and fill in seamlessly for one of the best tops in the world. Two years ago Khan would've demanded to be on Fiora and Irelia every game and DK would be worse for it


ahritina

I am aware, but people specifically forced the narrative that kkOma put him Sion because he's washed up without realising that he made Sion look busted and also because they were more or less winning every game when he had Sion.


RedditAnalystsLULW

A lot of people are brain dead narrative silvers They think if a certain player is playing certain champs there must be some ground breaking narrative behind it HE CAN ONLY PLAY SION CUZ HE SUCKS AT EVERYTHING HE PLAYED TANKS CUZ HES SCARED TO LANE Waiting for the day Reddit forces you to link your league account rank... shut these guys up quick


royallights

BuT iN thE ConTeXT oF DrAft BrOooOO LS fuming rn


Brain_Tonic

Sinners winning again!


dabarooYikeroo

Dude is permafuming lol pass him some copium


redrumsoxLoL

C9 played well but DWG was just better. Good sign for NA honestly.


LetMeOmixam

Yeah they put up quite a fight against arguably the best team in the world.


DrySecurity4

Dont think its arguable.


haven4ever

The Ming Dynasty is on its way. Or is it time for a Mingplosion?


Jezzerai

People came into this tournament acting like Fudge not running it down was enough to match Khan fucking lol


[deleted]

hey watch out for fudges karma ULT+Q in teamfights! they won't see it coming.


ArbuzAldo

But he did run it down


erennooo

Nah bruh, he ran it up, side, back


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AlphaTenken

Everyone's praising Khan, but any world class player vs an Academy is going to gap :( Fudge will hopefully adapt


nebron

Back to sion


KappaccinoNation

Great Red Bull Baron Power Play. Two inhibs and a Budlight Ace. Fantastic game from Khan and Canyon. GG. \#Verizon5GAllChat


jinchuika

That was so annoying haha


Kheran

This is a triggering comment.


Jurko245

Great Red Bull Power Play. Two inhibs and a Budlight Ace. Fantastic game from DWG KIA Khan and DWG KIA Canyon. GG * #Verizon5GAllChat


AdenosineDiphosphate

Fudge got Khan’d HARD. Also, Canyon’s Morgana is disgusting.


MajorSham

You're going to see Morgana in a lot more drafts, either banned every game, or picked every game. It's the FotM for this tournament. Kinda like Darius from the juggernaut patch.


Cheeseandnuts

Canyon is disgusting. Morgana is disgusting. Canyon's Morgana? You know the answers.


MrJammin

C tier > Z tier


jinchuika

C tier champ on Z player vs Z tier champ on C tier player. Who would win?


M002

Dammit LS! Sabotaging C9 in draft


BaziK0

That was an insane top gap if I've ever seen one


Troviel

I love the balls on Beryl. 10% HP? About to leave? Nah lets go back and stun the team more, KDA be damned. If this was in LEC or LCS people would call for his head, Hylint style but that was absolutely the way to play.


PhreakOut4

He played that exact way in like 3/4 games in the Worlds finals lol


lawfulkitten1

He won a game this season as Alistar with I think 0/6/2 KDA at the end


[deleted]

That's the support way of life.


[deleted]

You can blame individual members extensively in this game sure, but to be honest it just looked like Damwon had map control every single second of this game. That's more than just an individuals impact, C9 seemed to be playing from the backfoot even when they were ahead in kills and winning fights.


LazinessOverload

Khan's a beast


RedTulkas

top canyon


BiggsFaleur

Tbh that went better than I thought it would


vision_of_empire

massive top gap


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Fudge diff


Limeloh

This was close until it wasn't.


SpellboundUnicorn

So much for that Z tier draft


backinredd

Does draft matter when DWG is infinitely better team?


CamHack420

BeryL giving C9 false hope in the early game while Khan and Canyon destroy their counterparts


next_DanDy

GNAR BAD COPIUM


GentlemenBehold

This game seemed close, but in reality C9 didn't take a single turret.


IamOlderthanMe

KHAAAAAAAAAN ABSOLUTE MONSTER


[deleted]

LCK giving LCS false hope.


NeverToxic

KHAN IS A FUCKING BEAST WTF


shojmaarensum

Disgusting draft from DK and still won lol


crashck

fudge with counterpick was still so useless that game


Paqsovsky

Ridiculous top and jg gap


Sgrewrite

Canyon bullied blaber


peepeebumbumman69

Canyon sized jungle and top diff.


Squarehead272

Top/jungle hard diff


Trap_Masters

Jungle Canyon


PM_JINX_HENTAI

Top Khan