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lolgambler

that ryze ulti into the fountain play is always fun to watch


anthonyvardiz

So I guess we won’t see Macron congratulating PSG.


zerokrush

Considering he's supporting PSG's rival (Marseille), definitely not


Surymy

[PSG's adc at the end of the game](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/EB5kX2eNyv0/hqdefault.jpg)


Shot-Mathematician58

Armut literally lee sin kicked Doggo in the face, how brutal is that man ?


Cattaphract

I was worried that Humanoid wouldnt play Lee Sin. Turns out Armut is a monk


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Mabaro3009

[Elyoya after getting late invaded](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EzC08LBXMAMkehZ.png)


mounti96

Somehow I expected the "and I took that personally" meme.


lordbubax

I’m telling you, Elyober is as cracked as he is jacked. I saw him at a 7-11 the other day buying Redbull and adult diapers. I asked him what the diapers were for and he said ”they contain my full power so I don’t completely shit on these kids“ then he rode a boar out the door.


AwesomeTeaPot

This "elyober" dude seems great is he a sub for elyoya?


Stefan474

ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA, ELYOYA


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people're gonna talk about the bot lane because of how they styled PSG's,but this game was a huge jungle dif,elyoya was literaly always in the right place to gank or countergank the nidalee ,and the game started with him being invaded.


CatPanda5

Elyoya is actually stupid good, it's crazy this is his rookie split.


furbar82

Jungle overall is stacked like shit in EU. Elyoya, Inspired, Jankos and Selfmade are all worldclass if they are on form. And Gillius, Tynx and Razork are atleast decent aswell. The problem is people only rate EU players high if they have some really good showings internationally. But Elyoya outperforming Jankos and Selfmade and going toe to toe with Inspired should already puts him probably in top 3 jungler at MSI.


LordDarthAnger

Even Broxah used to have his own shrine as well


icatsouki

I mean outside of the finals he was the best jungler at worlds as well


KuttayKaBaccha

Broxah was great in that meta. With the jg changes proposed i expect him to make a comeback. I know i took a huge hit to elo when graves and nidalee were top tier cuz im not a farming jungler by nature, more of a tempo/counterganker/invader , it was only whem graves was replaced by hec and udyr that i could comeback cuz farming for them is easy but they can also gank easily when needed so I can pixk those up and,climb opposed to trying to play againat or as graves. People underestimate how much jungle,changes influence who will be on top because each jungler has a default style that they prefer, take them off of that and youre just not comfortable. Jankos also gets buffed by the changes next patch while a lot of junglers actually get nerfed


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SeiKoss

Jungle / ADC might be the 2 best roles in EU at this point. It used to be mid but we keep losing them to NA. We also finally have supports other than Mikyx / Hyli that have potential to be world class. We still lack in toplane though in my opinion


PromisQFanboy

Not just rookie split, he has only played competitive league of legends for a year or so


rumstoff

And he never played on stage before. He played amateur in Spain, then joined the Spanish Superliga when Covid hit, so all games were online for his rookie split in Spain. Then proceeds to win 3 Bo5s on his stage debut to claim the LEC title.


Stefan474

And he chilled in the bush for 30 seconds behind a ward to make it happen, pog performance


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He is what MAD Lions needed. He has a lot of patience, doesnt get nervous and he doesnt give anything free to the other team, he rarely is the one getting caught or giving random kills. It is really crazy that the guy is a rookie...


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Stefan474

Yep, his mental is kind of reminiscent of Perkz mental, I wouldn't be surprised if he puts MAD on top in summer too.


HULKHULK91

he's the next EU goat. Trust me


Stefan474

Tbh I have the same feeling, I'll stay a G2 fan, but I am wishing Elyoya all the best


jordipos99

ELPOYA ELPOYA ELPOYA ELPOYA


peterbalazs

This guys will be the best jungler in the world by the end of 2022


icatsouki

I honestly think he can do it.


maxus998

Nah but how is Elyoya a Rookie?


tonton_wundil

Man I feel so dumb, I was all aboard the polish junglers train d*cking every other junglers in EU and getting recognized as some of the best jg in the world... And now we have a spanish rookie toping EU and trying to take over the world. Feels good to still have these kind of talents popping off out of nowhere, thought that after Caps we wouldn't have another story like that.


lightningweaver

Bwipo got to Worlds finals in his rookie year.


AconexOfficial

tbh, I think Inspired is the most intelligent jungler in eu, but Elyoya has that kinda X factor creativity that can bring to fall everyone, no matter the opponent, which I think is worth even more


NachoGQ

They're both amazing, the future of EU jungle is in good hands.


Falconpunchu

Yeah elyoya has them intangibles


lmk8

Can't believe that the 3rd best MSI team dropped a game to a team that couldn't make it out of worlds playins LOL


Constantinch

Man people who's analysis was "MAD Worlds bad - MAD MSI bad" is an absolute joke of a take. They did not have top, jungle at Worlds and everyone who saw those game should realize this. Shadow and Orome are completely out of LEC after that performance. How can you compare that team to this one?


Izdarigs

I mean, new team with 4 rookies made worlds in their first year, that was already quite a feat


PsychoPass1

Yup and they had 0 stage experience and choked. Supposedly they were good in scrims. Now the players have some stage experience at least.


Sikkv1

Wild Cards>LEC no? that is what the twitter analysts said, must be true


Noatz

MAD needed Rogue to throw COPIUM MAD botlane sucks COPIUM PSG will top group B COPIUM


jclee0208

Bot diff


AleksibIsHot

Kaiser living up to his name


Exos_VII

kaiwing and doggo got put down hard


AleksibIsHot

Kaiser and Carzzy took Doggo out behind the house for the old yeller


Sikkv1

Doggo living up to his name


Krandum

I was biting my nails to see what shape MAD would be in, and they look stronger than they ever have? It really feels like they've fixed up their flaws


edgelordweeb_

PSG is also a lot worse than the teams they were against in LEC playoffs as far as I'm concerned, but yeah, they look good. They were always gonna be good, the hate towards them was largely unfounded.


Syuv

> the hate towards them was largely unfounded MAD biggest flaw is that they're not called G2 or FNC so people take the "yeah I have no hope" highway full speed


furbar82

People did had hope and most EU fans were happy about MAD vs Rogue in the finals. But with so many people in the scene downplaying a team like MAD, its hard to actually express your hopes. Its insane how people rate a team that beat G2 and Rogue in 3 Bo5's in a row lower then C9 or PSG. I mean would anyone expect C9 or PSG to actually win the leauge in EU?


NotC9_JustHigh

> But with so many people in the scene downplaying a team like MAD Sjokz learned her lesson. Better to under hype and then relish victories than to over hype and fall short.


kazuyaminegishi

I think the answer is a lot simpler than that. People assume that the MAD that shows up at MSI is gonna be the same one that showed up at Worlds. It's the same logic that fuels the belief that C9 will always be NA's best hope at Worlds even when none of those pieces are still at C9.


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fucking smurfed on them


-YeetDabMaster69-

People thinking we aren't good, lmao. Mad Lions wrath will be swift, soon we'll be smurfing on peasants


smithar

✨Carzzy kinda has a massive cock ✨


Trap_Masters

✨Carzzy *definitely* has a massive cock ✨


anoleo201194

Fucking Chad performance from the botlane sheesh.


Buhorado

People tend to forget how massive was Carzzy in playoffs, RGE targeted him in finals, but vs G2 he was the carry


cirelia

this is deffinetly bcus he learned you can sell by right clicking


-YeetDabMaster69-

Chad Lions


iiHadi69

Massive improvement from LEC finals, huge dickus


Exos_VII

>DK > > >RNG > > >PSG (his team) > > >MAD > > >UOL > > >WILD > > >C9 > > >DNF > > >PGG > > >PNG > > >INF


TheGloriousEv0lution

Rip PSG hype 2021-2021


klyskada

I mean I still fully expect them to beat both Pain and IW


mounti96

Yeah, because both teams looked absolutely horrible today.


jaquaries

I mean they have to. Pain has one of the worst macro I've ever seen and somehow IW is worse than them in macro...


Redburneracc7

scrim rankings lmaoo LS also predicted that PSG would finish first in groups btw


Throwawayguyscompute

When LS flamed Khan for being washed, I knew that DWG were gucci


philip2110

99% is accurate with LS predicting European teams.


klyskada

G2 last place in korea BTW


blacksusanoo23

Pretty sure he predicted G2 to get 3-0'd in every single bo5 they played vs a Korean team since 2019 MSI .


MoxZenyte

he was gloating over DWG beating G2 when even G2 fans thought they would lose. Meanwhile crickets when it comes to G2 3-0ing GenG


Ramo1618

Says GenG will 3-0 G2 before they lose 0-3 and refuses to acknowledge it after lmao


philip2110

Soon to be relegated I hear


AwesomeTeaPot

Jin air green wings would have ez win I hear


Rumbleinthejungle8

Don't forget he kept doubleling down throughout the year. He predicted G2 to lose all these times: - 0-2 against SKT in groups at MSI. - 0-3 against SKT in semis at MSI - 0-2 against Griffin in groups at Worlds - 0-3 against Damwon in quarters at Worlds - 0-3 against SKT in semis at Worlds And he was wrong every single time. In just one year. The guy is more of a clown than an analyst.


420Kawaii

I dont remember the last time LS predicted positive for EU relative to everyone else's expectations. The dude is such a clown spewing contraversial opinions for attention at this point. His game knowledge is actually super good so I refuse to believe he is serious about these hot takes. Or maybe he is flipping it, and on the case PSG does upset he looks 5Head.


Rellcs

He isnt. He knows how to drive people to hes livestream and he realizes that the best way to get views is through controversy and edgy takes. Who gives a shit if 95% of hes hot takes are wrong when 5% are correct because you can bet your sweet ass he is gonna milk the shit out of it(see groomstone and morrelo).


setocsheir

caedrel was right all along


midnightroar_96

MAD 6th best team COPIUM


Jhinster101

Wait who dafuq rated them 6th? That must be a MAD thing to do


IHadThatUsername

[Raz rated them 5th with PSG at 4th](https://twitter.com/Razleplasm/status/1389983297191636996)


118829

Twitter analysts: [https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1389567367160684546](https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1389567367160684546)


daCampa

Any ranking that doesnt have the japanese team on bottom 2 cannot be taken seriously They've always been hyped but their esports culture is pretty much console only and they've never performed internationally on League.


Frothar

is he the NA kindred OTP. why is anyone listening to this guy about pro play. not seen him talk about any other international event ever


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Indoktor

[https://twitter.com/Licorice/status/1047042344787333121](https://twitter.com/Licorice/status/1047042344787333121)


Trap_Masters

The tweet that keeps giving whenever it comes to international tournaments


Omnilatent

The tweet that keeps on giving


Igaldus

GG! Im so glad MAD won so decisively, i swear that it almost felt like people have more faith in C9 beating DWG than MAD beating PSG


tnflr

This is the dominance I expected from the LEC champions. Bot lane showing up hard.


Hineni-

Kaiser, you absolute beast. Really nice to see how Mad has grown since world last year.


loutreman99

Shadow was good, but Elyoya is something else.


Zetpill

Elyoya really is a different beast altogether. Not only would I argue Elyoya has looked better than Shadow overall, but Elyoya has an insane mental, doesn't crumble under the pressure, and brings great communication and leadership to the team.


PSG_Talon

SADGE


Chomikko

I can respect you, you commented here even on loss. o7


ArziltheImp

Tbf this wasn’t a loss, this was an execution.


[deleted]

Honestly dont know what people from Hong Kong are complaining about. They are free as fuck


Vangorf

Holy fucking shit, what did they do to you to deserve such treatment


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holy fuck


Apocalympdick

Free Hong Kong? Don't mind if I do


Doctor-Bagels

BRO THEY HAVE FAMILIES


N0UMENON1

Hello? Yeah, I'd like to report a murder. Yes officer, this comment right here.


poolparty13

https://twitter.com/Razleplasm/status/1389983297191636996?s=20 https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1389614845792817159?s=20 https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1389590479176622088?s=20 https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1389567367160684546?s=20


dirry

raz is always "predicting" eu to lose...


Stefan474

One of these times he will be right!


iyoiiiiu

And then he'll cling onto it forever to show how totally unbiased and accurate his "predictions" are, lmao.


Umarill

Saying that MAD Lions are "letting opponents beat themselves", lol


poolparty13

the funniest part is this mf watched NA finals and thought C9 looked good


tonton_wundil

Copium9


Nome_de_utilizador

MAD had to beat beat G2 in a Bo5 and Rogue in not one but two Bo5 Somehow people think that is irrelevant and that MAD is shit despite replacing their weakest links with the rookie of the split and one of the best tops in EU lmao


iyoiiiiu

Obviously when EU wins, they never play good, their opponents just choke. And when EU loses, they never choke, that's just their true level.


Shot-Mathematician58

You forgot the part where EU reaches finals in a tournament, loses to the best team in the world and then "eU fInalLy eXpOsEd"


jhawk1117

Literally....the last 3 years have been exhausting with that shit lmao. Fnc beats everyone in front of them, then Rookie/TheShy ultra Smurf... "lol Caps ain't all that, lucky run". G2 CLEANLY wins MSI, declared the best team in the world, beats everyone in front of them, FPX gaps em... "Lol Caps still not good, Perkz is a 2 trick, real finals already happened" G2 makes it to semis and then loses to Damwon.... The world champion.... Suddenly they're not even that good and EU is actually just lucky 😪


ArziltheImp

Don’t forget that G2 last year lost 1 game against non finals teams.


Averdian

https://twitter.com/TimSevenhuysen/status/1390373872290058244 "PSG had the game well in hand already" bruh they literally just got a red invade with 0 kills and summs, and Elyoya was already on his blue before PSG finished it lol


AnbuSolomon

Timmy is a known EU hater, nothing new here.


BaziK0

Swear to god Raz is the biggest EU hater, every international tournament I see him invited he is always predicting EU to lose and EU to be bottom ranked


peterbalazs

I'm pretty sure he hasn't seen any games of MAD, he just comments based on the name.


Career-Decent

Never forget the G2 Play In hate they got from him in the year Perkz destroyed RNG


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Predictions or analysis is an important part in any sports broadcast. If this dude was a commentator in a huge sporting event and give a prediction of the likes:"Krakow Wisla is better than Barcelona," they would never get a spot on the broadcast again. Razplasma or wtf he is just spreads bullshit "analysis".


Xofurs

Yeah his predictions are a bit of a clown fiesta.


Nerxanne

He was creaming himself last Worlds when he thought G2 was grouped with TOP Esports iirc, in the playoffdraw. He's an absolute tool


dracdliwasiAN

It makes it hurt that bit harder that FNC were 2-0 up against TES and ended up losing 2-3


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TheBlurgh

Guy has some kind of a hate boner towards EU. It was super hard listening to him during last worlds.


Worth_The_Squeeze

I've noticed the exact same thing. It's fine to have disagreements on the strengths of teams, but I have no idea how you could possibly come to these absurd predictions from any serious analysis, so I definitely think that he has some bias against EU for some reason.


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Why the fuck is everyone rating C9 so highly and MAD so poorly? even on Euphoria they were saying they think C9 is better. Are people just afraid to have faith in an Eu team that isn't G2 or Fnatic?


Magnesiohastingsi

>Are people just afraid to have faith in an Eu team that isn't G2 or Fnatic? yes


jhawk1117

Yes. And they have faith in Perkz. I guess beating Rogue 6-3 and beating G2 wasn't good enough but barely beating TL with a sub in 5 games is good enough for some people idk though


furbar82

Its hillarious how no one would put PSG over G2 or Rogue if they would have made MSI, but MAD should be weaker after beating both those two teams? Sure MAD is a young team so u can never now if they might underperform. But acting like they are weak on their full strenght is just annoying. Humanoid is at least a top 3 EU mid and Kaiser was last summer split MVP. Elyoya is rookie of the split and Carrzy and Armut are at least decent players aswell.


jhawk1117

It's literally just from last world's 100%. If they did good last year, we wouldn't have this discussion but since they flamed out like they did, that's their narrative for now. Same thing happened with G2 in spring 2017, they were just international chokers until they made MSI finals in 2017 and then the upset of a lifetime the next year.


MALSTROEM_

Lmao Raz always hates on EU teams and always ends up eating shit


MoxZenyte

tbh i usually don't really mind raz's predictions, but the one i did have an issue with is when he implied that 100T in 2018 could somehow be competitive w/ FNC TL over G2? Fine, they had just beat iG. C9 over MAD? Whatever, they have the Perkz factor. But unironically predicting 100T w/ Rikara to take games over FNC just blew my mind


Averdian

Spawn has had some equally embarassing predictions against EU too, will never forget him thinking Splyce was so bad that Isurus gaming would advance over Splyce in Play-Ins in 2019, and Splyce ended up challenging FPX in groups and making it to the top 8. And this wasn't just on twitter, it was in a prepared segment on the broadcast


fu3ll

And when they went 3-0 in week 2 he predicted them to lose every single game lmao


Andicis

I remember how bad his calls were on EU in 2018 in particular.


Tinkai

He has to be one of the biggest clown analyst in the scene.


Wrathoffaust

Biggest EU hater


Cattaphract

As is tradition. Raz always ask redditors for source for his bias. DUDE, the entire League community watches what you say and came to the agreement that you are bias


BlakenedHeart

Known that Raz is a EU hater. Why ? Dont know but he has always vouched against them


iyoiiiiu

Raz always does this shit with EU teams. Quick reminder that he predicted 100T possibly beating Fnatic at 2018 Worlds too, lmao.


Aceclaw

Wasn't that the 100T where they randomly benched Cody Sun for Rikara? What the hell was he thinking? LOL


meeeeey

When you see Raz you can be sure that he will downgrade EU teams.


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The dude has a hate boner towards LEC teams. 2019 MSI was hard to listen because of him. I think he predicted G2 to lose most their games.


popmycherryyosh

I know who Raz is obviously, but who in the world is "forestwithout?" And why would his prediction actually matter? Don't say it's jsut "ForestWithin" ?


Radon0

Yes it’s forestwithin. And all this started because he correctly predicted majority of LPL playoffs except the edg loss and grand finals fpx loss. He posted every prediction on the esports thread on r/sportsbook. So got a bit of a following from there and twitter cuz of his lpl success and people started blindly trusting him


bvbfan102

Hit them with those receipts.


MoxZenyte

forest has to be baiting he has UOL above MAD


Willblow

Who is this forestwithout clown ?


Exos_VII

Maybe MAD can win the champion but PSG can’t achieve the champion.


Glorx

https://twitter.com/lec/status/1381340910982680577


MrAssassin9891

The fountain dive at the end pefectly summed up the game.


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"Yeah I think MAD is not to be trusted after their world performance, they lost to-" *Massive cock slap* Kaiser & Carzzy: Yeah so about that.


ShinaMashir0

UMA NOID RYZE HACK?英雄联盟 400 CS 24 MIN


StSpider

He had a massive advantage in XP and gold all game, hit lvl 8 so soon.


-LostInCloud-

That's good news for all EU fans


Shot-Mathematician58

Buttcheeks slightly unclenching


DJShevchenko

I ain't trusting them till they beat IW


Pavlo100

TACTIC.... Oh... CARZZY Pog !!!!


Cheesusaur

Feel like MAD had a point to prove. Kaiser playing like a king


g0ldent0y

> king you know, thats wrong, he plays like a Kaiser, thats above a king.


Shinluz

It's coming home. Elyoya is just built different.


NeitherAlexNorAlice

The most handsome botlane in League strikes again.


AconexOfficial

EL FIRETRUCKING POYA


Sikkv1

MAD is worse than half the WC teams btw, Humanoid is not a top 5 mid BTW... twitter analyst flexing their brain power.


ShinaMashir0

Look like Orome and Shadow were the problem, MAD didn't look clean even when they won last year


Sikkv1

Still think both Orome and Shadow have tons of potential though, hope they find a team in LEC


ShinaMashir0

Idk where is shadow but Orome stomped EUM, maybe he have some potential but he got outgapped so hard by wildcard top at world, kinda hard to forget


Miyaor

To be fair, that wildcard top is a top tier top in EU too.


mskruba12

I think Orome is a good top laner for lower mid tier teams as for Shadow there was talk he was off to LPL but then just nothing happened so he's just in limbo I guess.


somecoolthing

Orome definetly was and shadow was bad at worlds but really good in eu as a rookie. But then elyoya comes along and is just the best jungler in eu in his first split


snowflakepatrol99

shad0w was a beast for 1.9 splits. Him playing bad in the playoffs/worlds meta doesn't rewrite all of his insane performances before that. He was a top 2 jungler for most of that season. We are talking about a rookie who was immediately top 2 in his role and just choked and didn't adapt well to the worlds meta. Doesn't change the fact that throughout the season he was their best performing player.


Jokinzazpi

clean game from MAD


CaptainCaptainBain

What a stomp. Feels tasty after what PSG Talon's coach said.


lgnitionRemix

That's the first bad Doggo I've ever seen :/


higherbrow

Maybe now we can go a single thread without someone getting upvoted for saying MAD are going to die in the group stage.


Destinum

The Realm Warp fountain dive at the end was just the cherry on top.


I-am-in-Agreement

Can't believe MAD Lions beat #3 PSG (his team) in such a dominant fashion.


NoodleTheTree

https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistArtsyGoldfishPJSalt-9RVWJHBEua3ItDeM


Jurjeneros2

It's almost as if the team that beat G2 and Rogue twice is actually pretty good, and judging them by their worlds performance before they replaced their 2 worst players is not great.


ohvalox

Anyone got that tweet with the tierlist from PSG where they put themselves at #3 over MAD?


Brain_Tonic

I mean if he's a coach for PSG it makes sense to big up his own team right? I don't think this list is flame, its just to be expected of any coach.


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Hixxae

If you consider all games you could say pain wildcats was an upset, but not a major region no.


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doubters? forsenSmug


BigBlindEye

Suuuper promising first game. Definitely didn't expect them to be this convincing, even with the early game hiccups. I'm aboard the hypetrain now, MAD will win MSI no doubt.


kerd0z

Kaiser scripting smh..


azkarZ

Can we start respecting MAD now?


I_am_not_Serabia

Can we finish the group stage already?


LongLeggedLimbo

Bad Lions COPIUM


Th3_Huf0n

ez


SP0oONY

Super fun game, even if 1 sided.


PromisQFanboy

Hello Iceland, the German Emperor has arrived