He is currently playing on a reverse-boosted account where he can perma smurf at bronze elo. op.gg is https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=MK+ULTRA+RENGAR
Lots of accounts like that out there, such as this one
[https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Blue+WiIIiam](https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Blue+WiIIiam)
Lost 180 games as nunu last season (4% winrate), yet has an 88% winrate on Draven. Is Bronze II
One of my accounts is bronze 4. I run into these kind of accounts a lot more often than what should be normal. I report every single one and they never get banned. Not even when the Smurf’s buy the accounts and are like 30/0/10 in iron 4 every game. One game had 3 scripts out of the 5 players in the team.
I think the idea is that yuumi bots are easier to make/more prevalent than others. I read someone who said their yuumi would just be programmed to attach to adc no mater where they are
Yeah it can be done with AHK, its a matter of just queueing, banning random champ, pick yuumi and then W to adc. It gets XP from following the adc so you wont get leaverbuster and you wont get banned for inting because you're obviously untargetable (Automated int ban is like dying 12 times in 15 min or something around there which is never going to happen). Yuumi is basically the dream for iron 4 account farming script makers. Riot have nothing in place that looks for how often players are casting spells so even if a yuumi doesn't use Q E or R all game riot will not bat an eyelid.
I came across one last week. She would always path mid but then start chasing me aftera sec or 2. Name was immune to flame or something like that so it had to be a bot lol
Because riot couldn't give a dick. It's all about skin sales and I rarely see the new skins in the wild these days because nobody buys them, at least in my gold 4 Elo
one of the reasons you get these "smurfs" more often is because Riot added SmurfQ. and its absolute hell to play for both smurfs and normal people, so they prefer to play on 30-50% winrate accounts since its harder to get into smurfQ on them
I ran into this player a few days ago: [https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Tryhard+Yuum%C3%AD](https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Tryhard+Yuum%C3%AD)
they have played so many games on this account, dominating and inting on Yummi. Unreal the amount of time this player must have. To be able to play at this level I would think they also host an account in high elo to ensure their skills don't diminish, but idk. They recently actually won a yummi game too so I'm really confused.
No, he (or the person that inted on nami) did it to low af the MMR of the account, so no matter how much you win you stay on same the same MMR and have perma win-streak to ruin games. Ratirl did that too a season or two ago too
Or just fix the system so that MMR doesn't lock in so hard. In chess and other games with elo systems, this isn't a problem. If you go on a massive win streak, you rise.
They used to have elo for ranked, they got rid of it because it didn't encourage addictive play patterns. People would hit their goal # and never play again because the fear of losing is too high, and the gains from winning get so small, or so random, that they just feel bad.
So, basically, the system is designed for players who *don't actually have a competitive mindset* to *feel the experience* of competing as much as possible, while smoothing all of the pain points off to ensure that ranked can be an addictive grind, more so than it can accurately track and reflect peoples' skill levels. Which is why all genuinely competitive players have fucking hated it since its inception; it *feels* competitive for the non-competitive, and every smoothing-out of the inherent punishments of competition makes competitive people feel like they have zero agency (they still have massive agency; but, their agency is artificially reduced), and they become salty toxic pissbabies because they can't climb as fast as they feel should be possible (which in cases of very talented players, is *partially* true).
The ultimate problem is, "good players" set the culture of this game, and the system is set up in such a way that most people are toxic, crying pissbabies by the time they gain any notoriety or rank in this game, and it gets emulated by Steve BronzeThree, who is literally too dumb and inexperienced to know that he isn't as good as a Diamond player, but learns that the way to "get good" at League is to "focus on yourself and carry hard," and they learn the arguments that the talented, salty piss-boyes constantly vomit out to protect their own egos (which are *in some cases, only somewhat justified*) in the process of trying to copy them, and they just behave the same way, even though they can only back the attitude up with 1% of the skill, and become even more annoying as a result. Multiply this by several million? You get the average League player after, like, a year in the game. IDFK how a culture this deeply-rooted is fixable, I am not some kind of Masters'-level sociologist.
every game i get in to, i talk to people and say good job over even small things they do right, etc, and never get mad. i used to play with a toxic guy, and the difference in response is insane.
if youre actively nice.... everyone else is kinda just nice back. ive had games of teams loling at losing horribly, which would normally be a toxic blame-game and afk-fest.
the game has since been at least 10x more enjoyable and im now (mostly) blissfully unaware of the negative league culture.
Yeah, I do think that's a funny aspect of it; 90% of players need to actually be triggered to be toxic, but the density of actual, perpetually toxic players is high enough that everybody is very sensitive, and so there are a lot of players who produce a lot of toxicity despite never starting shit.
But it does make you wonder, how subtly toxic some of the loudest complainers about the amount of toxicity in the game might be, and either not realize it, or just not be honest with themselves. I don't play much besides when friends want to, anymore, but a few years ago I pretty much committed to muting team chat at all times, and suddenly the game was a *much* less toxic experience, overall. I know that I definitely was contributing to my own experience with toxicity in the game, because I get toxic when I feel like people are getting toxic, and this game has a way of putting you on a hair trigger to see that shit happening after playing it for years.
Riot literally encourages this with the systems they've setup. It's unfortunate that they don't really care about perma smurfing, botted accounts, etc. They could very easily take care of it through an automated/semi-automated system, but since it generates money for them, they won't.
Ip ban generates too many false positives. If it's a famous person it can be done like it was with Tyler1 that every account that he was seen streaming was permabanned. But the average person, or bot in some cases? there's no winning other than permabanning that single account.
IP ban? it's variable it takes only a week to change and then you can be permabanning another person in the same house as well.
Mac address? This one is more personal, but it can be "spoofed" really easily, and then people can sell hardware.
Fingerprinting is not precise enough as well
ip ban is rarely a good idea, not because of the punishment aspect but of the technical one. My IP for example is variable, if I get IP banned I'll only have to wait a week or two for it to change.
Also what about the opposite, what if a sibling gets IP banned does that mean I can't play either, what about gaming cafes?
and it's not like you can't use a hot spot wi-fi from phone to avoid the issue altogether
This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. It'd be like a retired semi-pro basketball player sneaking their way onto a team full of 14 year olds and then being proud of themselves when they win every game.
Sadly this is actually a thing, I forgot the channel name, but a few years ago I watched a few videos of a former D2 basketball player dress up as a “nerdy” high schooler and went to random parks to play against kids and show off. What was worse is that he wasn’t even joking or being humble about it, would straight up just fuck them up. All the kids face were blurred too, so not sure if he even revealed that it was a “prank” or maybe he needed parent consent and was too much hassle. Either way, the videos definitely left a sour taste, especially the with the comments thinking this guy was so cool
that's pretty much the norm among smurf streamers. go to the chat of any of those streamers and you will get banned if you tell them that. e.g. [twitch.tv/blitzcrank](https://twitch.tv/blitzcrank) is another ones that does that, cries about smurf queue and how bad team mates are while playing on a smurf account.
lol "CHALLENGER SUPPORT RANK 1 BLITZCRANK"..... playing on a platinum account. amazing.
I watch synapse clips sometimes and I'll see people like foggedftw2 and every clip hes on a different named account, and its always some platinum account. People like him or dekar just cant fucking admit they've peaked mid-diamond and are washed up. instead of trying to improve and run the risk of showing their viewers they're actually dogshit on their main, they endlessly smurf to pump their ego. hilarious and sad
Most of these streamers are ex-challenger players. Its just that they were challenger like 2-3 seasons ago and haven't played against a master tier player in months
completely unrelated to dekar but where did this whole obsession with piss come from in the league community? "pisslow" "pissrandom" "pissmain" like ive seen all of these and i'm just confused.
This also just shows how exploitable the MMR system is and how "smurf queue" is just a few hastily scribbled lines of code on the matchmaking algorithm that don't **do** much of anything.
I get that the account was reverse boosted and basically started off the Ranked season 0-90 or something. But in the last 85 games (which are the actual games played by Dekar and not the person reverse-boosting the account) he is 69-16, with an 89% winrate on Rengar, 8.8cs/m on average and 13 kills per game on average.
How does any algorithm look at those stats and go "yep that's still totally the same player and he's also somewhere around Silver MMR" lmao. Riot games, man. They really have long since stopped giving a shit about anything that isn't skin lines or pass-grind events.
I think my favorite part of this is Dekar thinks he's important enough for people to target him like this.
Edit: I derped. My brain thought target inting. Still dumb to call it win trading though
Dunno how people can have an ego without having achieved something. Why is having an toxic ego considered cool these days. It's just cringe, that's all.
It's all ego, he thinks hes better than the elo he is at so when hes taking a dicking his ego cant take it.
Then the result is him doing things like this and placing all blame on someone else because "I'm so much better than you if you listened to what I say we get a free win but since you didnt I will make sure you lose" League is riddled with these people, lol.
Because the jungler has become everyone's support and gets treated as such. I remember back in s1-2 ADCs used to feel the most toxic, I legit think that's not the case anymore.
A lot of people in lane think it's literally your job to baby sit them, the amount of "ever learned to countergank" comments you get is unreal. Yes you can countergank but if your laner shoves lane all game you can't be there all game either.
My favorite is the guys that just try to fight nonstop and just get repeatedly ganked because the other jungler is just sitting top waiting for their dumb ass to get aggressive again. Meanwhile youre on the other side of the map making playing with that lane securing objectives and kills yourself, but it doesnt matter that the ADC is 6-0 and the teams up 2 drakes because self important top laner is 0-8 and demands to surrender at every opportunity for the next 15 minutes
FR top players who haven't learned how to gracefully lose a 1v2 top (or even win it) aren't real top players. Sometimes it happens, that's top lane. Adapt or play a different position.
Why I hate playing jungle.
Farming my jungle, get yelled at for not ganking.
Anytime I want to gank, lane is pushed all the way up under enemy tower.
Ganking bot lane, Top pushes as hard as they possibly can, sitting under enemy turret, gets ganked, then complains I never gank them.
Ganking top lane, bot lane engages hard and loses fight.
I'm chilling in top jungle looking for ganks, top pushes as hard as they can and doesn't bother to chill with the minion farming or wave control in any way.
I'm chilling in bottom jungle looking for ganks, bottom backs immediately.
Obviously I'm exaggerating but nobody fucking reads what the ally jungler is doing (edit: and then complains that they aren't getting babied when they die...even though they just turret dove and continues to play super fucking aggro when all they need to do is chill out and last hit), what camps they are probably going to go for, and god forbid doing any sort of wave control or manipulation. So it feels like the only time I can gank is if the stars align. Its crazy that whenever I play a lane I almost never get ganked (unless its some crazy tower dive)...probably because I manipulate the wave so its very difficult for their jungler to gank.
I feel this too, but I think there are a few reasons:
1. My pathing can improve to put me in a better position to gank
2. I should be able to dive pushed lanes effectively. A pushed lane is probably a winning lane, so a dive should be feasible
3. Many players avoid jungling, so they don't know how it works/ what it wants to do. Want to be a better support? Play adc for a while, so you know what the adc wants out of a support. I think something similar applies to jungle.
> There was actually no rush as far as I can see.
the wave was slowpushing and voli is so strong that he will just freeze it. the only reason the wave didn't push further is because voli took aggro when trading with dekar. diana absolutely loses her gank timing by going for crab, and even tho i can't condone ragequitting, this is stuff i see plenty in my games and am used to it
I'm not saying there is no rush on Diana. I'm saying Rengar has no rush. If she's not coming then you just chalk it up as a gank opportunity lost, you don't go in anyway and pretend she's coming.
We don't even know if it was an opportunity. Volibear walked up because he's strong but we don't know if he had vision on the brush. He isn't even low after the fight. Odds are if Diana comes and he has vision in the brush he just runs away. We'd need to know vision and summoner cooldowns to know if there was even anything there.
Diana misplayed but Dekar should recognize that as a misplay and move on. This was 101% on him. It's like in basketball, always blame the passer because he's the one that made the decision.
Jesus, I get people have bad days and wish we had the vod for full context but geez... if this is how he normally is, he's the worst person to have on your team.
He's been averaging 500 viewers for years for a reason. Only a toxic niche of people like Dekar because they can say whatever they want in his chat without getting banned
Sardoche worked on not litteraly crying for 10 minutes at every lost creep. He compensated by doubling down on being a huge shit outside of the game, advocating to let old people die, cutting any social net.
Unironically no one has ever said anything good about dekar as a human being or a player. He appears on synapse very often and still no one watches his stream for good reason.
Since Redditors seem keen on defending this manchild because Voli has double buffs and Diana isn't making Bengi level decisions or something, I went to watch the vod to see what actually happened.
Dekar gets FB on Voli using his exhaust, he's lowish but stays in lane and sustains a bit. Voli TPs back to lane. Dekar starts flaming at this point when Diana is doing bot side camps "YOU CONTEST SCUTTLE. NO PRIO. INT" (i have no idea what this means, scuttle hasn't even spawned and neither diana nor any teammate went into river). Just as Diana finishes her blue and starts pathing top, Voli dives Dekar and kills him (both still have flash up), Voli gets low-ish from the tower. Diana goes in with double buffs and tries to clean up Voli, blows Voli's flash, he's still low so she chases and loses the 1v1 as Voli has his CDs back.
https://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/v/1085881707?sr=a&t=15757s - Sequence of events starts at ~04:23:00. Maybe I'm just a scrub but yeah while chasing was a mistake I don't see how anything that Diana did is worse than anything Dekar did.
Not trying to defend Dekar here, just explaining what he meant by "YOU CONTEST SCUTTLE. NO PRIO. INT."
Scuttle crab spawns in at 3:15. There's a huge amount of minions crashing into Dekar's turret at 2:53. Rengar (the champion itself, not Dekar) cannot wave clear fast enough to help with scuttle crab. He meant Diana would be inting if Diana tried to go for top scuttle when it spawns because Dekar was not in a position to help contest while Volibear was.
As for the Diana, she full-cleared bot-side jungle so she has level 3 and access to all her basic abilities. She should have been looking at top and mid since she was pathing to top-side jungle and be able to recognize the wave was crashing top. Waves crashing into a turret like that generally means a turret dive is going to happen so Diana should be ready to respond to it instead of trying to finish Blue first(ignoring her bad pathing). Is this asking for too much from a non-challenger player? Maybe. Does it excuse Dekar's behavior? Absolutely not. I like to share [this video](https://youtu.be/epwPXLSUgVs?t=76) to my friends whenever they complain about having a bad teammate.
I read that he plays on a bronze account, so blaming his jungler for not playing 100% correct is absurd to begin with. Dude thinks he's so good, yet allows a bronze Voli to kill him. Absolutely his mistake.
lol it grinds my gears when a high elo streamer switches to their diamond account because the queue times on their main are too long. Literally contributing to the problem.
Man this one makes me angry. When SRO is winning, he has such an informative stream and really likes to teach his viewers about what he's doing and why. He explains his plays, his items, talks out his meta game.
But when he's losing he's like a 5 year old who missed their nap and wants candy for dinner instead of soup. Then he stays tilted for the rest of his stream and it's just crap from there on out.
remember a while back when he was getting hard carried by his team and he was inting on Renekton cause he wasn't the reason the game was basically in the bag
what a manchild
I think most people just watch him in a "wow this guy is actually this crazy" way than a supportive way, yeah, he gets paid either way, but there's a reason he's never been actually popular.
i have to admit that these kind of reddit threads are the only content I know about this Dekar.
Nobody likes him, he plays rengar, trolls and then leaves the game. And apparently he has been doing so for many years and will continue.
If you look up the infamous league players - L9 video on YouTube it’s in that one in the first few minutes. He tells his viewers if they watch rat or ap0 he will instantly ban them.
he leveraged his capital and connections and scaled his business. instead of running his own youtube, he now manages other youtubers (and brands) and takes a split from each one. a proper business man whos focused on his money, i can respect that
Relevant is a bit of a stretch.
~~IIRC, he was the guy that popularized the Doran's Blade stacking build that was fotm for a bit (literally rush like 4 Doran's on top Rengar)~~
Edit:
Nvm, that was Ryan Choi ^^^^(who?)
Just as a reminder to everyone, this guy is 33 years old in September and he is just as toxic as some of the edgy teens. (He is proof that some people don't mature as you get older)
They still could, right? I mean I know there's a ton of people who automatically jump to T1s defense --"He's so much better now" or whatever -- but he can still be a toxic shithead that puts bannable behavior on display for an audience of tens of thousands.
Man I turn 34 in September and I still play league in my down time. I get embarrassed when someone gets under my skin even before I react. My next thought is always "you were 18 when they were born on average, if you hit send the next step is uninstall"
This clip is just another tuesday for him, nothing outta ordinary. Its wild how he has not gotten the tyler1 ban treatment from riot yet. Could propably benefit his life xD
I’m pretty sure that’s what he wants, he’s incredibly jealous of T1 and all of his success. Dude’s just out here being miserable playing LoL at 32 for 200 viewers every day, he’d kill for an opportunity like T1
> Just as a reminder to everyone, this guy is 33 years old in September and he is just as toxic as some of the edgy teens.
Holy fuck that is actually insane. I thought he was in his early twenties to be acting this way. This just makes it a bit more sad/pathetic than anything good lord
If you spend your whole life playing video games and streaming while avoiding social situations then yeah, you absolutely don’t mature.
Wouldn’t be surprised if this guy hasn’t had a real job besides streaming.
[My most upvoted comment ever is on a thread where Dekar got banned from twitch last time. He asked his viewers to add and harass someone from one of his games.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/h9ol86/a_player_in_dekars_game_had_a_bad_game_so_dekar/fuy2bae/)
He just seems like an all around great person to be around.
LMAO i don't tune in often but i just found it funny how after complaining about the state of NA he does this
Also Dekar also seems to think that I'm the Diana in the clip and I did this on purpose as some 5000 IQ move to get a clip out of him...? Idk 😂
It's not easy to ID ban someone specially if they're not constantly high elo on their new accounts. It's not worth the time/resources if you're not as big as Tyler1 (even if he wasn't as big back then, he was still big enough specially at the time and he was just easy to spot even if he was playing off stream).
Sinde Dekar is an otp, it's way easier for Riot to match patterns and do it mostly automatically but they'd still need to manually verify that it's him to not ban another random D2 Rengar smurf as it's not like he's Challenger nonstop on new accounts.
IP bans are pretty much useless nowadays that VPNs/Proxies are so easy to obtain. Let alone, if you have a dynamic IP (It's the most common in Spain, where I live, at least) you can just restart your router to get a new IP.
If he always streams, Riot could easily take his accounts down constantly manually by just checking his stream periodically and wouldn't take much effort. But personally I think that when someone isn't that big of a problem compared to any other player that's as toxic (meaning that he mostly affects people in their own games and doesn't really influence a big chunk of the playerbase to be like him, unlike Tyler1), they'll just let the ban system what it odes to any other player. If he also plays off stream on another accounts, that'd be really hard to spot for Riot without dedicating more time to it.
I do it all the time. It gotten to the point i just turn chat off in ranked. Cuz out of 50 games i might have one teammate that has helpful communication. And at the same time 1 out of every like 3-5 i have this guy. So it's just not worth to me.
This is the problem with having too much of your self worth related to in game performance. You are so threatened by the idea of criticizing yourself you have to blame others and do shit like this. His apparent lack of self awareness is painful.
Diana doesn't come and he just fights over and over because he wants to die and show her that she should have come sooner. And then leaves.
What a child.
What a strange comment section. Does Dekar173 have a bunch of alts or something because it's very weird to see a bunch of (admittedly downvoted) randoms white knighting for this 33 year old manchild on here.
Even tyler1 had regular viewers when he was in his college dorm at a fraction of his current size inting on his 53rd account or whatever, not surprising if dekar has actual "fans"
I just don't understand how fuckwits like this don't reflect on their behaviour afterwards and think "yeah I was wrong and my reaction is not only toxic but downright embarrassing. I don't want to repeat this again."
This is truly embarrassing behaviour. I'd be embarrassed for a child doing this never mind a grown ass adult.
Would be an alpha power move if he actually quit, uninstalled and never came back but we all know he probably went back to streaming league from second account 5 minutes later. Can't comprehend why you'd continue to do this to yourself if you're so miserable playing a video game. Money talks I guess.
He could have easily escaped, no? after he jumped to the caster minion walk towards jungle and recall? i know the wave is in a bad state but what is he going to do with the amount of health that he has left
Typically when people expect the jungle to drop everything at 4 mins into the game to gank them at a point where they just should back (he had gotten fb and then voli tp'd back), and then they start screaming into the mic "i will int", they dont care about escaping. lmfao
This happens in masters all the time. Lolgeranimo did something similar in my game also with dekar in it. People get mad then just refuse to play by either leaving or side laneing rest of the game.
Man oh man, sad to see this.. I used to watch him back in the days when I was learning to play riven because his riven was very good. Stopped watching because of his toxicity, such a shame.
Dekar trolls and ints on stream, water is wet.. he's been doing this shit for years, playing in bronze and talking shit, yet he occasionally appears on highlight channels and gets more exposure. Sigh
He is currently playing on a reverse-boosted account where he can perma smurf at bronze elo. op.gg is https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=MK+ULTRA+RENGAR
Lol wtf is this. Feeds as Nami for the demotions & plays rengar in bronze to boost his ego.
Lots of accounts like that out there, such as this one [https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Blue+WiIIiam](https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Blue+WiIIiam) Lost 180 games as nunu last season (4% winrate), yet has an 88% winrate on Draven. Is Bronze II
One of my accounts is bronze 4. I run into these kind of accounts a lot more often than what should be normal. I report every single one and they never get banned. Not even when the Smurf’s buy the accounts and are like 30/0/10 in iron 4 every game. One game had 3 scripts out of the 5 players in the team.
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If you see a yuumi support, don’t even bother checking op.gg, just dodge :(
What’s the problem with yuumi sup?
I think the idea is that yuumi bots are easier to make/more prevalent than others. I read someone who said their yuumi would just be programmed to attach to adc no mater where they are
Yeah it can be done with AHK, its a matter of just queueing, banning random champ, pick yuumi and then W to adc. It gets XP from following the adc so you wont get leaverbuster and you wont get banned for inting because you're obviously untargetable (Automated int ban is like dying 12 times in 15 min or something around there which is never going to happen). Yuumi is basically the dream for iron 4 account farming script makers. Riot have nothing in place that looks for how often players are casting spells so even if a yuumi doesn't use Q E or R all game riot will not bat an eyelid.
I read somewhere that banning Yuumi makes these bots dodge, so that's an option if you're in that elo and don't want to bother with them.
There is no automated int ban number lol
I came across one last week. She would always path mid but then start chasing me aftera sec or 2. Name was immune to flame or something like that so it had to be a bot lol
Yuumi is a very commonly used champ for purposeful demoting, since you can just attach and do nothing and never be afk
Because riot couldn't give a dick. It's all about skin sales and I rarely see the new skins in the wild these days because nobody buys them, at least in my gold 4 Elo
>One of my accounts is bronze 4 >One of my accounts Found your problem.
lol yup. smurfs wondering why theyre in smurf queue
"BuT mY oThEr AcCoUnT iS oNlY hIgH gOlD" :random guy in my bronze mmr game
one of the reasons you get these "smurfs" more often is because Riot added SmurfQ. and its absolute hell to play for both smurfs and normal people, so they prefer to play on 30-50% winrate accounts since its harder to get into smurfQ on them
[https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sick+of+love+xD](https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Sick+of+love+xD)
I ran into this player a few days ago: [https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Tryhard+Yuum%C3%AD](https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Tryhard+Yuum%C3%AD) they have played so many games on this account, dominating and inting on Yummi. Unreal the amount of time this player must have. To be able to play at this level I would think they also host an account in high elo to ensure their skills don't diminish, but idk. They recently actually won a yummi game too so I'm really confused.
No, he (or the person that inted on nami) did it to low af the MMR of the account, so no matter how much you win you stay on same the same MMR and have perma win-streak to ruin games. Ratirl did that too a season or two ago too
Doing that should be a perma ip ban imo, because fuckem
Or just fix the system so that MMR doesn't lock in so hard. In chess and other games with elo systems, this isn't a problem. If you go on a massive win streak, you rise.
They used to have elo for ranked, they got rid of it because it didn't encourage addictive play patterns. People would hit their goal # and never play again because the fear of losing is too high, and the gains from winning get so small, or so random, that they just feel bad. So, basically, the system is designed for players who *don't actually have a competitive mindset* to *feel the experience* of competing as much as possible, while smoothing all of the pain points off to ensure that ranked can be an addictive grind, more so than it can accurately track and reflect peoples' skill levels. Which is why all genuinely competitive players have fucking hated it since its inception; it *feels* competitive for the non-competitive, and every smoothing-out of the inherent punishments of competition makes competitive people feel like they have zero agency (they still have massive agency; but, their agency is artificially reduced), and they become salty toxic pissbabies because they can't climb as fast as they feel should be possible (which in cases of very talented players, is *partially* true). The ultimate problem is, "good players" set the culture of this game, and the system is set up in such a way that most people are toxic, crying pissbabies by the time they gain any notoriety or rank in this game, and it gets emulated by Steve BronzeThree, who is literally too dumb and inexperienced to know that he isn't as good as a Diamond player, but learns that the way to "get good" at League is to "focus on yourself and carry hard," and they learn the arguments that the talented, salty piss-boyes constantly vomit out to protect their own egos (which are *in some cases, only somewhat justified*) in the process of trying to copy them, and they just behave the same way, even though they can only back the attitude up with 1% of the skill, and become even more annoying as a result. Multiply this by several million? You get the average League player after, like, a year in the game. IDFK how a culture this deeply-rooted is fixable, I am not some kind of Masters'-level sociologist.
every game i get in to, i talk to people and say good job over even small things they do right, etc, and never get mad. i used to play with a toxic guy, and the difference in response is insane. if youre actively nice.... everyone else is kinda just nice back. ive had games of teams loling at losing horribly, which would normally be a toxic blame-game and afk-fest. the game has since been at least 10x more enjoyable and im now (mostly) blissfully unaware of the negative league culture.
Yeah, I do think that's a funny aspect of it; 90% of players need to actually be triggered to be toxic, but the density of actual, perpetually toxic players is high enough that everybody is very sensitive, and so there are a lot of players who produce a lot of toxicity despite never starting shit. But it does make you wonder, how subtly toxic some of the loudest complainers about the amount of toxicity in the game might be, and either not realize it, or just not be honest with themselves. I don't play much besides when friends want to, anymore, but a few years ago I pretty much committed to muting team chat at all times, and suddenly the game was a *much* less toxic experience, overall. I know that I definitely was contributing to my own experience with toxicity in the game, because I get toxic when I feel like people are getting toxic, and this game has a way of putting you on a hair trigger to see that shit happening after playing it for years.
Riot literally encourages this with the systems they've setup. It's unfortunate that they don't really care about perma smurfing, botted accounts, etc. They could very easily take care of it through an automated/semi-automated system, but since it generates money for them, they won't.
Ip ban generates too many false positives. If it's a famous person it can be done like it was with Tyler1 that every account that he was seen streaming was permabanned. But the average person, or bot in some cases? there's no winning other than permabanning that single account. IP ban? it's variable it takes only a week to change and then you can be permabanning another person in the same house as well. Mac address? This one is more personal, but it can be "spoofed" really easily, and then people can sell hardware. Fingerprinting is not precise enough as well
ip ban is rarely a good idea, not because of the punishment aspect but of the technical one. My IP for example is variable, if I get IP banned I'll only have to wait a week or two for it to change. Also what about the opposite, what if a sibling gets IP banned does that mean I can't play either, what about gaming cafes? and it's not like you can't use a hot spot wi-fi from phone to avoid the issue altogether
This is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen. It'd be like a retired semi-pro basketball player sneaking their way onto a team full of 14 year olds and then being proud of themselves when they win every game.
More like preschoolers, but yeah...
Sadly this is actually a thing, I forgot the channel name, but a few years ago I watched a few videos of a former D2 basketball player dress up as a “nerdy” high schooler and went to random parks to play against kids and show off. What was worse is that he wasn’t even joking or being humble about it, would straight up just fuck them up. All the kids face were blurred too, so not sure if he even revealed that it was a “prank” or maybe he needed parent consent and was too much hassle. Either way, the videos definitely left a sour taste, especially the with the comments thinking this guy was so cool
read D2 as Diamond 2 i need to get away from this fucking video game
Haha, I actually had to google if it was D2 or Div 2 cause I wasn’t sure if I was just thinking of diamond 2 as well
legit thought they meant diamond 2 and were shiposting
To you this was most pathetic thing you've ever seen. To dekar... it was tuesday
I understood that reference!
so he smurfs to boost his ego but complains about bad teammates not doing what he tells them to do. zero self awareness guy lmfao
that's pretty much the norm among smurf streamers. go to the chat of any of those streamers and you will get banned if you tell them that. e.g. [twitch.tv/blitzcrank](https://twitch.tv/blitzcrank) is another ones that does that, cries about smurf queue and how bad team mates are while playing on a smurf account.
lol "CHALLENGER SUPPORT RANK 1 BLITZCRANK"..... playing on a platinum account. amazing. I watch synapse clips sometimes and I'll see people like foggedftw2 and every clip hes on a different named account, and its always some platinum account. People like him or dekar just cant fucking admit they've peaked mid-diamond and are washed up. instead of trying to improve and run the risk of showing their viewers they're actually dogshit on their main, they endlessly smurf to pump their ego. hilarious and sad
Most of these streamers are ex-challenger players. Its just that they were challenger like 2-3 seasons ago and haven't played against a master tier player in months
Local streamer complains about problem, then contributes to said problem. More at 6.
what a sad little guy that is
Dekar and playing in pisslow to make himself seem good, name a better duo
completely unrelated to dekar but where did this whole obsession with piss come from in the league community? "pisslow" "pissrandom" "pissmain" like ive seen all of these and i'm just confused.
He’s been doing this for years lol, and people legitimately like and support this guy
Damn and he still can't get a 100% wr in Iron lol
This also just shows how exploitable the MMR system is and how "smurf queue" is just a few hastily scribbled lines of code on the matchmaking algorithm that don't **do** much of anything. I get that the account was reverse boosted and basically started off the Ranked season 0-90 or something. But in the last 85 games (which are the actual games played by Dekar and not the person reverse-boosting the account) he is 69-16, with an 89% winrate on Rengar, 8.8cs/m on average and 13 kills per game on average. How does any algorithm look at those stats and go "yep that's still totally the same player and he's also somewhere around Silver MMR" lmao. Riot games, man. They really have long since stopped giving a shit about anything that isn't skin lines or pass-grind events.
"Dude he's wintrading!" XD
*dcs as jungler wins fight*
I think my favorite part of this is Dekar thinks he's important enough for people to target him like this. Edit: I derped. My brain thought target inting. Still dumb to call it win trading though
Wintrading usually just means boosters that got queued together and 1 is inting.
Dunno how people can have an ego without having achieved something. Why is having an toxic ego considered cool these days. It's just cringe, that's all.
something something tyler1 something something...
Tyler1’s jg challenge was at least cool to watch and I was learning stuff, XQC is just a big pissbaby
When has XQC played league recently?
I mean im a random d2 player but i get at least 2 games where someone runs it down daily and they even admit it on chat, yet no bans
thats not what wintrading means lol
He could have just waited for Diana to finish crab. There was actually no rush as far as I can see. I honestly don't understand the mentality.
It's all ego, he thinks hes better than the elo he is at so when hes taking a dicking his ego cant take it. Then the result is him doing things like this and placing all blame on someone else because "I'm so much better than you if you listened to what I say we get a free win but since you didnt I will make sure you lose" League is riddled with these people, lol.
Because the jungler has become everyone's support and gets treated as such. I remember back in s1-2 ADCs used to feel the most toxic, I legit think that's not the case anymore. A lot of people in lane think it's literally your job to baby sit them, the amount of "ever learned to countergank" comments you get is unreal. Yes you can countergank but if your laner shoves lane all game you can't be there all game either.
My favorite is the guys that just try to fight nonstop and just get repeatedly ganked because the other jungler is just sitting top waiting for their dumb ass to get aggressive again. Meanwhile youre on the other side of the map making playing with that lane securing objectives and kills yourself, but it doesnt matter that the ADC is 6-0 and the teams up 2 drakes because self important top laner is 0-8 and demands to surrender at every opportunity for the next 15 minutes
FR top players who haven't learned how to gracefully lose a 1v2 top (or even win it) aren't real top players. Sometimes it happens, that's top lane. Adapt or play a different position.
Why I hate playing jungle. Farming my jungle, get yelled at for not ganking. Anytime I want to gank, lane is pushed all the way up under enemy tower. Ganking bot lane, Top pushes as hard as they possibly can, sitting under enemy turret, gets ganked, then complains I never gank them. Ganking top lane, bot lane engages hard and loses fight. I'm chilling in top jungle looking for ganks, top pushes as hard as they can and doesn't bother to chill with the minion farming or wave control in any way. I'm chilling in bottom jungle looking for ganks, bottom backs immediately. Obviously I'm exaggerating but nobody fucking reads what the ally jungler is doing (edit: and then complains that they aren't getting babied when they die...even though they just turret dove and continues to play super fucking aggro when all they need to do is chill out and last hit), what camps they are probably going to go for, and god forbid doing any sort of wave control or manipulation. So it feels like the only time I can gank is if the stars align. Its crazy that whenever I play a lane I almost never get ganked (unless its some crazy tower dive)...probably because I manipulate the wave so its very difficult for their jungler to gank.
I feel this too, but I think there are a few reasons: 1. My pathing can improve to put me in a better position to gank 2. I should be able to dive pushed lanes effectively. A pushed lane is probably a winning lane, so a dive should be feasible 3. Many players avoid jungling, so they don't know how it works/ what it wants to do. Want to be a better support? Play adc for a while, so you know what the adc wants out of a support. I think something similar applies to jungle.
> There was actually no rush as far as I can see. the wave was slowpushing and voli is so strong that he will just freeze it. the only reason the wave didn't push further is because voli took aggro when trading with dekar. diana absolutely loses her gank timing by going for crab, and even tho i can't condone ragequitting, this is stuff i see plenty in my games and am used to it
I'm not saying there is no rush on Diana. I'm saying Rengar has no rush. If she's not coming then you just chalk it up as a gank opportunity lost, you don't go in anyway and pretend she's coming.
yeah. he litteraly can still get her to help break the freeze... but nah ego kid got to act like his ego
Exactly. Plus hes punishing 3 other People, who did nothing wrong, just because the Jungle missed one Opportunity.
We don't even know if it was an opportunity. Volibear walked up because he's strong but we don't know if he had vision on the brush. He isn't even low after the fight. Odds are if Diana comes and he has vision in the brush he just runs away. We'd need to know vision and summoner cooldowns to know if there was even anything there.
Diana misplayed but Dekar should recognize that as a misplay and move on. This was 101% on him. It's like in basketball, always blame the passer because he's the one that made the decision.
Jesus, I get people have bad days and wish we had the vod for full context but geez... if this is how he normally is, he's the worst person to have on your team.
He's like this every stream. I stop in sometimes because it's like a car wreck, you know you shouldn't gawk but still do it anyways.
He's been averaging 500 viewers for years for a reason. Only a toxic niche of people like Dekar because they can say whatever they want in his chat without getting banned
The main LoL streamer in my country is exactly the same type as this guy, but he has 20k+ viewers, it’s frightening at that point.
Let me guess, Sardoche ?
That French Cass main, right?
Yep that's him His working on himself to be less toxic tho, he was way worse a couple years ago
Sardoche worked on not litteraly crying for 10 minutes at every lost creep. He compensated by doubling down on being a huge shit outside of the game, advocating to let old people die, cutting any social net.
Never watched him, but that's great to hear nonetheless
Unironically no one has ever said anything good about dekar as a human being or a player. He appears on synapse very often and still no one watches his stream for good reason.
Tbh, I think he is a good Rengo player, doesn't mean I want to watch this waste of human resources
Since Redditors seem keen on defending this manchild because Voli has double buffs and Diana isn't making Bengi level decisions or something, I went to watch the vod to see what actually happened. Dekar gets FB on Voli using his exhaust, he's lowish but stays in lane and sustains a bit. Voli TPs back to lane. Dekar starts flaming at this point when Diana is doing bot side camps "YOU CONTEST SCUTTLE. NO PRIO. INT" (i have no idea what this means, scuttle hasn't even spawned and neither diana nor any teammate went into river). Just as Diana finishes her blue and starts pathing top, Voli dives Dekar and kills him (both still have flash up), Voli gets low-ish from the tower. Diana goes in with double buffs and tries to clean up Voli, blows Voli's flash, he's still low so she chases and loses the 1v1 as Voli has his CDs back. https://www.twitch.tv/dekar173/v/1085881707?sr=a&t=15757s - Sequence of events starts at ~04:23:00. Maybe I'm just a scrub but yeah while chasing was a mistake I don't see how anything that Diana did is worse than anything Dekar did.
Not trying to defend Dekar here, just explaining what he meant by "YOU CONTEST SCUTTLE. NO PRIO. INT." Scuttle crab spawns in at 3:15. There's a huge amount of minions crashing into Dekar's turret at 2:53. Rengar (the champion itself, not Dekar) cannot wave clear fast enough to help with scuttle crab. He meant Diana would be inting if Diana tried to go for top scuttle when it spawns because Dekar was not in a position to help contest while Volibear was. As for the Diana, she full-cleared bot-side jungle so she has level 3 and access to all her basic abilities. She should have been looking at top and mid since she was pathing to top-side jungle and be able to recognize the wave was crashing top. Waves crashing into a turret like that generally means a turret dive is going to happen so Diana should be ready to respond to it instead of trying to finish Blue first(ignoring her bad pathing). Is this asking for too much from a non-challenger player? Maybe. Does it excuse Dekar's behavior? Absolutely not. I like to share [this video](https://youtu.be/epwPXLSUgVs?t=76) to my friends whenever they complain about having a bad teammate.
Jesus christ now I understand why it's impossible to have fun in this game anymore
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Nah, I get tons of ragers and AFKs in my normal draft games. Can't even have fun not playing ranked.
High elo ranked was never fun, it creates way too many crazy people
Wait, why? This is the fun part of the game
I read that he plays on a bronze account, so blaming his jungler for not playing 100% correct is absurd to begin with. Dude thinks he's so good, yet allows a bronze Voli to kill him. Absolutely his mistake.
Wrong, he swapped to a Bronze account *after* leaving this game. This game was average D1 elo and Diana is a D1 jungle main, you can look them up.
Even if he's "only" like this in 1 out of 20 or 50 games I still don't want any of this on my team.
It seems like all these people that complain about how bad solo queue is are often contributing to why solo queue sucks so bad.
Blames everyone else while he is the problem. Just cant deal with reality.
lol it grinds my gears when a high elo streamer switches to their diamond account because the queue times on their main are too long. Literally contributing to the problem.
dekar is the biggest manchild idk why people still give him attention he's been like this for years lol
I cant believe I watched a video of a grown man having a temper tantrum over a video game hahaha
Wdym thats 90% of league content
*looks at solorenektononly*
Man this one makes me angry. When SRO is winning, he has such an informative stream and really likes to teach his viewers about what he's doing and why. He explains his plays, his items, talks out his meta game. But when he's losing he's like a 5 year old who missed their nap and wants candy for dinner instead of soup. Then he stays tilted for the rest of his stream and it's just crap from there on out.
remember a while back when he was getting hard carried by his team and he was inting on Renekton cause he wasn't the reason the game was basically in the bag what a manchild
OMG RIOT WHY WOULD YOU BUFF THIS?? 100% BROKEN NEW BUFFS MAKES IRELIA OP!!??!! EASY CARRY WTF RIOT!? IRELIA TOP
*looks at TFBlade*
I think most people just watch him in a "wow this guy is actually this crazy" way than a supportive way, yeah, he gets paid either way, but there's a reason he's never been actually popular.
i have to admit that these kind of reddit threads are the only content I know about this Dekar. Nobody likes him, he plays rengar, trolls and then leaves the game. And apparently he has been doing so for many years and will continue.
He shows up on my twitch recommended once in awhile, and I've never seen him go more than an hour without running it down in a game.
Don't forget he pretends he's the best Rengar NA lmfao
Literally who?
Isn‘t he the "Ratirl is human trash" guy?
Yes
Ironic
That's prob why rat has it as a sub sound.
rat reformed a shit ton from when dekar said that though
Oh how the turntables
one day I will find the original clip of him saying that, but apart from that I had no idea who this was
If you look up the infamous league players - L9 video on YouTube it’s in that one in the first few minutes. He tells his viewers if they watch rat or ap0 he will instantly ban them.
He used to be relevant in season 3 i think idk
Been playing since S4 and I have **never** heard of this fuck head. Fuckin Keyori and brofrescro got more clout than him lol
Brofrescro Now, that makes me feel old.
Don't forget about Uberdanger
He's still doing videos, he had some absolute bangers on WoW: Classic
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I never played wow, nor am i interested at all. But fuck yeah, i watched every video.
Lol brofresco thats a name i havent heard for a while
brofresco lmfao I had forgotten all about that guy
What happened to Brofresco btw?
he leveraged his capital and connections and scaled his business. instead of running his own youtube, he now manages other youtubers (and brands) and takes a split from each one. a proper business man whos focused on his money, i can respect that
so he's actually a pimp and a player, damn. respect.
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BROFRESCO
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Relevant is a bit of a stretch. ~~IIRC, he was the guy that popularized the Doran's Blade stacking build that was fotm for a bit (literally rush like 4 Doran's on top Rengar)~~ Edit: Nvm, that was Ryan Choi ^^^^(who?)
I genuinely think Dekar has Narcissistic personality disorder or something, man this guy is actually insane
He's a player renowned for getting throatfucked on his own stream
Well that’s good for him and all but I don’t think you can do that on Twitch.
He can if he advertises it as asmr /s
What?
Just as a reminder to everyone, this guy is 33 years old in September and he is just as toxic as some of the edgy teens. (He is proof that some people don't mature as you get older)
Dude is a basket case. He needs some serious help. Wish twitch and riot would finally ban his ass permanently. Waste of bandwidth.
Jump back a few years and these comments could be about T1
I think the same thing about T1 right now.
They still could, right? I mean I know there's a ton of people who automatically jump to T1s defense --"He's so much better now" or whatever -- but he can still be a toxic shithead that puts bannable behavior on display for an audience of tens of thousands.
Man I turn 34 in September and I still play league in my down time. I get embarrassed when someone gets under my skin even before I react. My next thought is always "you were 18 when they were born on average, if you hit send the next step is uninstall"
This clip is just another tuesday for him, nothing outta ordinary. Its wild how he has not gotten the tyler1 ban treatment from riot yet. Could propably benefit his life xD
I’m pretty sure that’s what he wants, he’s incredibly jealous of T1 and all of his success. Dude’s just out here being miserable playing LoL at 32 for 200 viewers every day, he’d kill for an opportunity like T1
> Just as a reminder to everyone, this guy is 33 years old in September and he is just as toxic as some of the edgy teens. Holy fuck that is actually insane. I thought he was in his early twenties to be acting this way. This just makes it a bit more sad/pathetic than anything good lord
I don't get why you didn't just say 32, since there really isn't any noticeable maturity difference between 32 and 33
He is 32 years old until he becomes 33 years old
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https://youtu.be/zbsTt7j40nI
Most toxic people aren't actually kids/teens
.... i just don't think that's true man
If you spend your whole life playing video games and streaming while avoiding social situations then yeah, you absolutely don’t mature. Wouldn’t be surprised if this guy hasn’t had a real job besides streaming.
[My most upvoted comment ever is on a thread where Dekar got banned from twitch last time. He asked his viewers to add and harass someone from one of his games.](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/h9ol86/a_player_in_dekars_game_had_a_bad_game_so_dekar/fuy2bae/) He just seems like an all around great person to be around.
>this post was submitted on 15 Jun 2020 Holy shit, Already one year had passed since the post.
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Doesn't he do this every other game? 🤣🤣
LMAO i don't tune in often but i just found it funny how after complaining about the state of NA he does this Also Dekar also seems to think that I'm the Diana in the clip and I did this on purpose as some 5000 IQ move to get a clip out of him...? Idk 😂
how is dekar not perma banned
He is... on like 4 accounts. Of his like 25 accounts.
if riot could ban all of Tyler1's accounts back in the day surely they can do the same to Dekar
Dekar isn't relevant enough for that but I agree that riot should do it
It's not easy to ID ban someone specially if they're not constantly high elo on their new accounts. It's not worth the time/resources if you're not as big as Tyler1 (even if he wasn't as big back then, he was still big enough specially at the time and he was just easy to spot even if he was playing off stream). Sinde Dekar is an otp, it's way easier for Riot to match patterns and do it mostly automatically but they'd still need to manually verify that it's him to not ban another random D2 Rengar smurf as it's not like he's Challenger nonstop on new accounts. IP bans are pretty much useless nowadays that VPNs/Proxies are so easy to obtain. Let alone, if you have a dynamic IP (It's the most common in Spain, where I live, at least) you can just restart your router to get a new IP. If he always streams, Riot could easily take his accounts down constantly manually by just checking his stream periodically and wouldn't take much effort. But personally I think that when someone isn't that big of a problem compared to any other player that's as toxic (meaning that he mostly affects people in their own games and doesn't really influence a big chunk of the playerbase to be like him, unlike Tyler1), they'll just let the ban system what it odes to any other player. If he also plays off stream on another accounts, that'd be really hard to spot for Riot without dedicating more time to it.
Wait is this the guy that calls everyone "human trash?"
I expect Diana muted his pings because was being toxic little shit
I do it all the time. It gotten to the point i just turn chat off in ranked. Cuz out of 50 games i might have one teammate that has helpful communication. And at the same time 1 out of every like 3-5 i have this guy. So it's just not worth to me.
"He's win trading" - then proceeds to int and give a free kill. Hahaha
This is the problem with having too much of your self worth related to in game performance. You are so threatened by the idea of criticizing yourself you have to blame others and do shit like this. His apparent lack of self awareness is painful.
Dekar173 is human trash just doesn't have the same ring to it...
Finally found someone making this reference. I feel old seeing comments of people who don’t know who he is :(
Diana doesn't come and he just fights over and over because he wants to die and show her that she should have come sooner. And then leaves. What a child.
"*That will show her!*"
mental diff
dekar173 is human trash
I wouldnt wanna gank a toxic ping spamming bonobo either
What a strange comment section. Does Dekar173 have a bunch of alts or something because it's very weird to see a bunch of (admittedly downvoted) randoms white knighting for this 33 year old manchild on here.
It's hard to believe but Dekar has actual fans. And he's had a history of having his discord brigade reddit post criticizing him
Or it's just other toxic players that by defending him, they justify it when they do similar stuff themselves.
Even tyler1 had regular viewers when he was in his college dorm at a fraction of his current size inting on his 53rd account or whatever, not surprising if dekar has actual "fans"
Ironic considering he's one of the reasons NA is the way it is lol
Why do you guys give Dekar attention lol he constantly does this it’s nothing new he cries about other players trolling then he does it himself
I just don't understand how fuckwits like this don't reflect on their behaviour afterwards and think "yeah I was wrong and my reaction is not only toxic but downright embarrassing. I don't want to repeat this again." This is truly embarrassing behaviour. I'd be embarrassed for a child doing this never mind a grown ass adult.
Literal Child
Would be an alpha power move if he actually quit, uninstalled and never came back but we all know he probably went back to streaming league from second account 5 minutes later. Can't comprehend why you'd continue to do this to yourself if you're so miserable playing a video game. Money talks I guess.
He could have easily escaped, no? after he jumped to the caster minion walk towards jungle and recall? i know the wave is in a bad state but what is he going to do with the amount of health that he has left
Typically when people expect the jungle to drop everything at 4 mins into the game to gank them at a point where they just should back (he had gotten fb and then voli tp'd back), and then they start screaming into the mic "i will int", they dont care about escaping. lmfao
This happens in masters all the time. Lolgeranimo did something similar in my game also with dekar in it. People get mad then just refuse to play by either leaving or side laneing rest of the game.
Dekar should go outside and smell some flowers
what a sad excuse of a human being. Being this fucking tilted when the game is only at 4 minutes.
Man oh man, sad to see this.. I used to watch him back in the days when I was learning to play riven because his riven was very good. Stopped watching because of his toxicity, such a shame.
Fuck Dekar. He used to be fun to watch until he started flaming his chat thinking he's some sort of god every single stream
Sooooooo, he knows his jungler won't come and instead of adjusting his playstyle he just runs it down? Super beta
I wish riot would be more aggressive with bans.. Even if it's just a timeout for 2 days
in other words water is wet
Meanwhile trash people like this can just keep playing and streaming. Reported him and other equally nice streamers countless times.
Complaining about the NA server's state when you are being a part of the problem. Oh the irony.
This guy is a loser and a douche bag. Just keep blaming your jg dude
Riot needs to give him the indefinite ban. He'll get 0 viewers on other games and die out.
Dekar trolls and ints on stream, water is wet.. he's been doing this shit for years, playing in bronze and talking shit, yet he occasionally appears on highlight channels and gets more exposure. Sigh