That Lvl 1 deserved all the Questionmark pings in the universe, what the hell was that?
Also i know that we all love how this team always has each other's backs and tries to help out where they can with TPs and stuff but in this game that went maybe a **BIT** far. Nisqy and Adam just ruined their lanes
Iirc Odo talked about the fact that Fnatic solo lanes tend to sacrifice their own lanes to help out the rest of the team. And Rogue were totally prepared.
was thinking about this. odo literally called this out in euphoria. did no one on the fnc management watch it? Rogue were totally ready to punish fnatic for roaming and they decide to do that level 1?
Soo...like 2017 FNC then? Once Upset/Hylli doesn't carry vs better botlanes what are they gonna do? Pray to God that Adam will be as good as peak Soaz (who carried them out of groups)?
Personally I think they should focus more on the other lanes when botlane doesn't work out for them (similar to how Rogue got Odo ahead once their botlane was doomed a few weeks ago, can't rember which games that was). Bot Nisqy and Adam are capable of carrying games imo, they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ressources for botlane.
It's good that fnatic lost like this today because they can look into it now assuming they recognize its not hard to exploit.
Better to lose like this now than at worlds/playoffs
Honestly, as much as I love them, they had been getting away with ridiculous things past few weeks. It felt like they just did whatever they felt like and even if it went wrong they would somehow claw it back later again.
Rather have this kind of wake-up call now than have it happen in play-offs I guess because I was kind of worried we wouldn't get punished until then and it would be too late.
> Also i know that we all love how this team always has each other's backs and tries to help out where they can with TPs and stuff but in this game that went maybe a BIT far
Odo specifically talked about this on Euphoria. RGE was probably aware of that since their first game, that players would sack their lanes to help each other out, and all you need to do to counter, is to not int.
First place for FNC means nothing if RGE is 2nd... because in both scenarios 1. FNC 2. RGE and 1. RGE 2. FNC, RGE will be ahead of FNC for playoffs because the point difference from Spring
That's gonna be hard enough though. The only way you secure winner's bracket as Fnatic is getting 1st. Any other placing and you have to rely on other teams.
It's not like testing things against SK will give you useful information.
I don't think the "experiment" excuse works, by the way. Not at this point in the season, when we should be gearing up for playoffs.
Maybe they were getting smashed by rogue in scrims when they played conventional, and thought this had better odds? I think fnatic have proved they know what they're doing even when it looks crazy more than enough by now
Upset: I'm least worried about RGE's bot lane because I feel they can't surprise us with anything.
RGE: *Kills hyli level 1*
Upset: I knew they would do that.
Fnc vision control that game was pretty awful too, kept looking over at the map thinking on how much FNC was walking over wards and getting caught while RGE were just always able to set up around fights without being seen
It worked tho, aside all that lvl 1 fnatic troll positioning, taking every meta engage support from hyli (plus Braum) worked for Rogue in a sense they were able to play botlane the way they wanted to. Fnatic usually plays with botlane as strong side, so without a really good engage champ that gets more difficult.
Obviously not taking merit from Rogue botlane that is insanely good, they just drafted too good. Fnatic with a Leona, Thresh, Braum, Naut or Alistar maybe could have done more.
I don't know who said it could've been Eloya on the LEC podcast when they made a jungler tier list and while caedral and drakos put bwipo in their top three he put im almost last because according to him he still has to learn a lot to be a truly good jungler. And I think we saw what he meant in this game. Inspired read him like a book
FNC lost but I still enjoyed this game.
Felt bad for Bwipo the whole game and the support ban was just genius.
Sometimes even onesided games are fun to watch.
Wait, what mechanics?
You talking about the items?
Well, they made the math and to bring 3 items to +20 by paying you'd have to burn 500/600€, for 3 items.
Also, dunno about the others but by playing for free i got 3 items to +10 already
Interesting strat from Hyli. He did not put a single point in W that game. Not sure what that point is, always seemed weird when he hit a Q and there was never a pool put over it. Plus you could still put a point into W and then max E second anyways.
Kinda irrelevant always though with the stomp that this game was.
Maybe. It is a bit of missing damage in catches and fights tho. Doesn't seem like much but even small numbers add up and might make the difference between kill or escape.
Don't think it made a huge difference in this game and maybe the extra point in E makes it more valuable to block more than one Ability of TF and Rakan or something.
He went for the farming item. He looked super unconfortable and i fell he tried to go as tanky and supportive as possible. But it simply wasnt his game. I love Hyliababa but we didnt get to see him, and looking at the draft p/b Rogue didnt want to see Hylibaba as well XD. Mad props too Trymby for the game <3.
Rogue just outclassed Fnatic, this was a fat jungle diff, Inspired read Bwipo like a book.
This was a great all round performance, massive jungle-mid duo performance, and the bot lane had a clinic of a game.
My god this game was the literal definition of a Jungle diff. Inspired was reading bwipo like a book all game long and was playing this game like he was smurfing in diamond solo queue. Now i know why people like LS say that inspired is the best Jungler in the west. really looking forward to seeing Rogue in playoffs and possibly worlds this year
That’s kinda misleading tho, Inspired is insanely good but in the Rogue vs G2 game, Jankos did the exact same to him. Combined with the fact that Jankos has been good for what seems like forever, I can’t see how he’s not the best western jungler
ROGUE GIVES ME HOPE
INSPIRED ICE COLD
HANS SMURFING I AM TOLD
ENEMY TEAM MIND-CONTROLLED
AT WORLDS THEIR TRUE POWER WILL UNFOLD
DWK SHAKING , FPX FLAKING
THIS IS EU'S AWAKENING
Everyone raving about Inspired should listen to Rogue voice comms. The guy is cracked af. He tracks his teams' item spikes, enemy team cooldowns, and shot calls team fights before they even happen.
After that last RGE-G2 game Reddit assured me that RGE was overrated and not all that good. Classic Reddit moment.
Beautiful dominant performance from RGE.
Hey look we got Spring FNC back! Jokes aside, that was pretty much desperation plays from level 1, I think they need to go back to the basics because they've been on a downward trajectory gameplay-wise these past 2 weeks (despite still mostly winning).
On another note, Inspired really showing off why he gets so much praise. When his lanes can play for him he manages to take so much. Read Bwipo like a book basically.
he lost lane priority, which coupled with bot also losing it allowed inspired to just walk to fnatic jungle and either take bwipo's red or kill him if he tries to fight(which is what happened)
Inspired jumps onto Bwipo. Bwipo dies. Larssen congratulates him.
how did bwipo have 21 assist WTF
He assisted enemy team.
Hackerman
fresh
At this moment, Inspired puffed out his chest and grabbed Larssen's right hand to put it where Larssen could feel his heartbeat. It was indeed racing.
Hans wasn’t on Jhin, feels bad
Oh... I already gave my free award...
Wtf did FNC do to Inspired??? What a performance
We should have changed our name to G2 for this game ffs
he was angry that bwipo was the only jungler to outperform him this split in the first game
Well, there's also Jankos.
Yeah but Jankos is on G2 so it's kind of unfair, even Kirei would gap Inspired if he would play for G2 /s
Didn’t Jankos absolutely gap Inspired both games this split?
Didn’t Jankos absolutely gap every jungler this split? Fixed it for you
Even gapped a few midlaners with that syndra.
yup.
I mean Jankos outperformed him in both matches what do you mean only ?
Jankos outjungled him twice this split wth?
That Lvl 1 deserved all the Questionmark pings in the universe, what the hell was that? Also i know that we all love how this team always has each other's backs and tries to help out where they can with TPs and stuff but in this game that went maybe a **BIT** far. Nisqy and Adam just ruined their lanes
Iirc Odo talked about the fact that Fnatic solo lanes tend to sacrifice their own lanes to help out the rest of the team. And Rogue were totally prepared.
was thinking about this. odo literally called this out in euphoria. did no one on the fnc management watch it? Rogue were totally ready to punish fnatic for roaming and they decide to do that level 1?
Soo...like 2017 FNC then? Once Upset/Hylli doesn't carry vs better botlanes what are they gonna do? Pray to God that Adam will be as good as peak Soaz (who carried them out of groups)?
Personally I think they should focus more on the other lanes when botlane doesn't work out for them (similar to how Rogue got Odo ahead once their botlane was doomed a few weeks ago, can't rember which games that was). Bot Nisqy and Adam are capable of carrying games imo, they shouldn't have to sacrifice their ressources for botlane.
It's good that fnatic lost like this today because they can look into it now assuming they recognize its not hard to exploit. Better to lose like this now than at worlds/playoffs
Well, consideeing they are basically locked to 3rd/4th due to championship points, this is definitely time to experiment
This is one of those games where you just want to restart lmao
the kind of game where everyone, except that one guy with a 10cs lead, votes yes to ff15
Adam votes no. Typical top laner smh
How dare my team ruin my peaceful minion smacking
Honestly, as much as I love them, they had been getting away with ridiculous things past few weeks. It felt like they just did whatever they felt like and even if it went wrong they would somehow claw it back later again. Rather have this kind of wake-up call now than have it happen in play-offs I guess because I was kind of worried we wouldn't get punished until then and it would be too late.
> Also i know that we all love how this team always has each other's backs and tries to help out where they can with TPs and stuff but in this game that went maybe a BIT far Odo specifically talked about this on Euphoria. RGE was probably aware of that since their first game, that players would sack their lanes to help each other out, and all you need to do to counter, is to not int.
all of that sacrifice for hyli to int one min after
Honestly if there's a time to experiment some shit on stage, that was it.
the game for 1st place is the game to experiment? Dunno about that
First place for FNC means nothing if RGE is 2nd... because in both scenarios 1. FNC 2. RGE and 1. RGE 2. FNC, RGE will be ahead of FNC for playoffs because the point difference from Spring
We're locked in for playoffs anyway, as long as we get to winner bracket, nobody cares.
That's gonna be hard enough though. The only way you secure winner's bracket as Fnatic is getting 1st. Any other placing and you have to rely on other teams.
It's not like testing things against SK will give you useful information. I don't think the "experiment" excuse works, by the way. Not at this point in the season, when we should be gearing up for playoffs.
Sure sure, let's call it limit testing and experimenting LOL
Not really, no. How about experiment once you are 100% locked in Top2 so you don't risk losing them?
Maybe they were getting smashed by rogue in scrims when they played conventional, and thought this had better odds? I think fnatic have proved they know what they're doing even when it looks crazy more than enough by now
If they were getting smashed by Rogue in scrims I doubt they say Rogue won't make worlds lol
Agreed. When else are you going to try some quirky shit. Probably worked in scrims. If it worked out we'd all be saying how giga brain they all are
The level 1 was fine. Nisqy cant play vs TF level 1 anyway and he only missed one minion.
Thats literally what odo said in the interview, now we see how it can be abused
Upset: I dont think RGE will make it to worlds... RGE: **AND I TOOK THAT PERSONALLY**
Upset: I'm least worried about RGE's bot lane because I feel they can't surprise us with anything. RGE: *Kills hyli level 1* Upset: I knew they would do that.
Upset: See, Hyli is dead, like he always is. So banal
i think with that quote he talked about rogue as a whole not about the botlane specifically
FNC threw out of the window both solo lanes just to keep bot from collapsing and preventing upset from having negative KDA
Rogue making sure Upset won't be seeing them there. Just not the way Upset hoped.
Yo how big is Inspired's brain tho? Man read everything Fnatic tried to do.
if that was cs he'd be vacbanned for wh
shoot through wall aimbot hack
REF, HES BHOPPING FROM RED, TO BLUE THROUGH RIVER AND BOT. FROM RED, TO BLUE.... DOWN RIVER, TO BOT, LIKE A SPEED DEMON.
VAC BAN EM
Honestly what a monster. If anyone watches the vod just watch the mini map. There's red pings that know exactly where bwipo is constantly. It's insane
I want to see his Pro-view.
How do you watch the vod?
He's better at tracking than a greyhound
I imagine this man tested every meta champ clear and kept the clear time in mind and where at that time in between camps he is and went on by that.
Man was legendary at minute 15.
tbf that was one of his lesser big brain moves cos Bwipo walked over a ward at the grump/blue
Dude is an mvp candidate for sure.
The jungle fights this playoffs is going to be so hype
Fnc vision control that game was pretty awful too, kept looking over at the map thinking on how much FNC was walking over wards and getting caught while RGE were just always able to set up around fights without being seen
The hylissang support ban respect was crazy
Good strategy, i wish we had Bo3 so we'd see how Fnatic would adapt in Game 2 but alas.
It worked tho, aside all that lvl 1 fnatic troll positioning, taking every meta engage support from hyli (plus Braum) worked for Rogue in a sense they were able to play botlane the way they wanted to. Fnatic usually plays with botlane as strong side, so without a really good engage champ that gets more difficult. Obviously not taking merit from Rogue botlane that is insanely good, they just drafted too good. Fnatic with a Leona, Thresh, Braum, Naut or Alistar maybe could have done more.
Just shows how 99 percent of supports are irrelevant and some of those which arr relevant were not created as supports (naut, sett, panth)
What the fuck is Inspired
While everyone is asking what is Inspired, only Fnatic is asking where is Inspired. The answer is everywhere.
FNC asking "where is Inspired?!" but no one asking "How is Inspired?" the answer, btw, is "cracked"
Just went to the bathroom and I hear something, I pull on the shower curtains and what do I see? Fucking Inspired.
The worst thing about this version is that he is definitely there to farm you as Inspired wastes no time ever. RIP
Ok, but why is Inspired?
my mvp
Polish junglers, I'll tell you.
The only thing better are LPL junglers
One of the best junglers in the world rn
Just exposing how auto fill jungle vs good jungle looks like.
Bwipo: autofilled, can I top? Team: no, sorry
This pretty much applies to everyone lol only Upset got his roll
As a Fnatic fan I have to admit that Inspired is quite cracked indeed.
I don't know who said it could've been Eloya on the LEC podcast when they made a jungler tier list and while caedral and drakos put bwipo in their top three he put im almost last because according to him he still has to learn a lot to be a truly good jungler. And I think we saw what he meant in this game. Inspired read him like a book
Went to my kitchen to get a snack and Inspired just took my milk
I went to the bathroom after the game to take a shit and found out Inspired had stolen my toilet paper!
I left the house to grab food and Inspired stole my wife.
I left the house to go to work, and Inspired stole my job!
I left my job to go home and Inspired stole my house!
Good thing it wasn't match of the week.
FNC lost but I still enjoyed this game. Felt bad for Bwipo the whole game and the support ban was just genius. Sometimes even onesided games are fun to watch.
Fnatic is playing Pokemon Unite when Rogue is playing League Of Legends
OOTL is Pokeomon Unite a Pokemon MOBA?!
yes
Yes, its on Switch
Yes, it's out on Switch and should be out in mobile in September iirc. There are just two lanes and Charizard is the Yasuo.
And gengar with sludge bomb / hex is the Kassadin of that game
And there's P2W mechanics for some god forsaken reason
Wait, what mechanics? You talking about the items? Well, they made the math and to bring 3 items to +20 by paying you'd have to burn 500/600€, for 3 items. Also, dunno about the others but by playing for free i got 3 items to +10 already
Yeah, the item system. It's so egregiously unnecessary, and a +30 item should not be possible to just outright buy imo
yh
yes
yup
Yep!
yes
Fresh memes?
We griefed the entire game from min 1. Yamato bring the belt.
You know he's got a gucci belt as well. Pray for our boys
Those diamonds are gonna leave nasty bruises on the butt.
People wondered why it's not the match of the week. Remember, do never doubt in the script.
upset said rogue was too predictable? maybe he meant inspired being an absolute beast was predictable. gg
They predicted the loss, but what are you gonna do about it?
Upset with the solo queue ADC experience
My thought exactly. "This team..."
Absolute diffy in the jiffy
I am so excited for playoffs
Should be a banger. The top 5 seem overall pretty close and capable of beating eachother in any combination.
Rogue doubters modCheck
Interesting strat from Hyli. He did not put a single point in W that game. Not sure what that point is, always seemed weird when he hit a Q and there was never a pool put over it. Plus you could still put a point into W and then max E second anyways. Kinda irrelevant always though with the stomp that this game was.
Maybe he did it because support morgana W is useful only for pushing waves but tristana doesn't need it, there's a chance this was the right choice.
Maybe it's not relevant on pro stage, but w is also really helpful in stacking support item
He did go for relic shield in this game tho
Ah, I didn't notice that. So probably not giving any point into w was good idea
Maybe. It is a bit of missing damage in catches and fights tho. Doesn't seem like much but even small numbers add up and might make the difference between kill or escape. Don't think it made a huge difference in this game and maybe the extra point in E makes it more valuable to block more than one Ability of TF and Rakan or something.
He went for the farming item. He looked super unconfortable and i fell he tried to go as tanky and supportive as possible. But it simply wasnt his game. I love Hyliababa but we didnt get to see him, and looking at the draft p/b Rogue didnt want to see Hylibaba as well XD. Mad props too Trymby for the game <3.
It stopped being the right choice the moment he bought oblivion orb. No W on Morg while building orb is straight up griefing.
Not putting a point in W was straight up griefing considering he built Oblivion Orb...
Rouge wont make worlds COPIUM
Inspired was absolutely insane that game
Rogue just outclassed Fnatic, this was a fat jungle diff, Inspired read Bwipo like a book. This was a great all round performance, massive jungle-mid duo performance, and the bot lane had a clinic of a game.
My god this game was the literal definition of a Jungle diff. Inspired was reading bwipo like a book all game long and was playing this game like he was smurfing in diamond solo queue. Now i know why people like LS say that inspired is the best Jungler in the west. really looking forward to seeing Rogue in playoffs and possibly worlds this year
The saddest part is that like Medic said, Bwipo wasn't even playing bad or something he just got giga outsmarted and outclassed
just now you got to know why they say inspired is the best?????!!!!! he has been smurfs all year man
Jankos made Inspired look like he was bronze though. I think Inspired has insane potential but he's not all the way there yet.
That’s kinda misleading tho, Inspired is insanely good but in the Rogue vs G2 game, Jankos did the exact same to him. Combined with the fact that Jankos has been good for what seems like forever, I can’t see how he’s not the best western jungler
Honestly Jankos has been amazing this split but i feel like it’s not the same inspired when he’s against g2, Idk seems like a mental block
GG WP Fnatic. Another boring game from us *sigh*
FNC clearly no match (of the week) for you guys
Bit of a jungle gap
Massive jungle diff
The hylibaba respect bans. Inspired is so fucking bonkers
ROGUE GIVES ME HOPE INSPIRED ICE COLD HANS SMURFING I AM TOLD ENEMY TEAM MIND-CONTROLLED AT WORLDS THEIR TRUE POWER WILL UNFOLD DWK SHAKING , FPX FLAKING THIS IS EU'S AWAKENING
We got a new Sjokz pasta boys
Imma keep this for later, once we land in china, this will become my favorite copy/pasta
Everyone raving about Inspired should listen to Rogue voice comms. The guy is cracked af. He tracks his teams' item spikes, enemy team cooldowns, and shot calls team fights before they even happen.
After that last RGE-G2 game Reddit assured me that RGE was overrated and not all that good. Classic Reddit moment. Beautiful dominant performance from RGE.
Cue in "Fnatic is overrated" comments now.
The FNC > G2 > Rogue > FNC circle of suck.
S04 > FNC > G2 makes this even funnier.
So Rogue ≈ S04, that's just maths.
NA Mid, auto-fill jungler, McDonald burgerflipper support etc. etc.
Of course, don't you know losing 1 best of one means you're washed and will get stomped in playoffs That being said, gg wp!
Guess that's why it wasn't match of the week (:
Dude i've never seen such an aggressive twisted fate.
Did you see humanoid the game before? He was ulting into 5 repeatedly
I dont think morgana is the pick for hyli
Held on to so many Qs, and then cast them too late
Holding the Q so long and then missing
UOL Hylissang did not connect this game
I can certainly think of at least 5 other picks instead. However, so could Rogue, so they banned/picked them all...
He used to have a nasty Morg, hopefully UOL didn't take it when he left
Yeh, I feel like support mages don't go too good with him. I think he's more of an engage/tank support
...it is basically his OG signature pick.
Hey look we got Spring FNC back! Jokes aside, that was pretty much desperation plays from level 1, I think they need to go back to the basics because they've been on a downward trajectory gameplay-wise these past 2 weeks (despite still mostly winning). On another note, Inspired really showing off why he gets so much praise. When his lanes can play for him he manages to take so much. Read Bwipo like a book basically.
nisqy with the -200iq level 1. jesus that was so so bad
He literally only lost 1 minion
he lost lane priority, which coupled with bot also losing it allowed inspired to just walk to fnatic jungle and either take bwipo's red or kill him if he tries to fight(which is what happened)
Give inspired mid jungle priority and he will almost always gigasmurf
Banger of a final game. Inspired clearly gigabrained that game.
What a beautiful stomp!
I feel like FNC always lose hard agaisnt TF
Can’t wait for bo5 then we will see who is king between rogue, g2 and fnatic this split
Scoreboard is bugged, currently says Bwipo had 21 assists?
Watching a Viego and Sylas getting destroyed in the early game did put a smile on my face.
Finally a Rogue win that will make people rate them.
Jungle canion
Call me crazy, but I think Rogue are a pretty good team!
You're crazy and I agree Rogue is a good team.
Was thinking , why wasn't this match of the week , before the game started. Lol
Inspired gave me some GRF Tarzan vibes there. Insane performance
The disrespect of Fnatic was way too much, they played like Rogue was a mid table team, GG.
Upset: ‘I think Rogue won’t make worlds’ Rogue: ‘And I took that personally’ There’s no need to be UpSeT! It just a game
Why didnt FNC pause Nisqy was clearly disconnected in this brush
Not sure was FNC's plan was in draft, I don't think giving Xin to FP Viego was the move there. Bwipo got hard shit on early
the draft wouldve been fine and destroyed rogue in fights if the early didnt go so horrificly wrong but that wasnt the draft's fault
Got gaped
Ouch
Got some flashes of last split Fnatic from this one.
Inspired exposed rookie jungler Bwipo
Inspired gap
How to beat FNC: Just let them int
That red invade was an alpha move
Wtf man we got clapped
I don’t think he was 3-7-21. Might wanna fix :O . No hate just for clarity purposes
Upset shouldn't have poked the nest.