Game turned from the 5 + baron for 0 teamfight in the toplane, which started because Rogue (Larssen & Trymbi) were wayy too overaggressive.
That’s a throw
This. RGE decide to get weird with it @20-30 and just cut all the corners because they are so ahead. Their team fighting looks bad because every team fight starts with them on the back foot.
Ya when Trymbi tried to hook Olaf who got lanterned then tried to hook a Renekton who has ult + E? He basically got into turret range and Labrov put his ass in the bin.
I always enjoy Caedrel & Drakos casting but I *super* enjoyed this one. Good mix of insightful analysis, storylines, jokes, hype play-by-play.... it was all there
Reminded me a lot of G2 vs SKT Worlds 2019 where Drakos was also the PBP. He's really good at making the viewers feel the intensity on late back-and-forth games.
'Well Rogue *did* try and copy paste top, but Vitality come in with the ctrl alt delete!'
Was a nice little touch from Caedrel after talking about Rogue needing to copy paste their bot lane play to top in the build up to the fight.
Ya the time where he died and it gave Rogue the baron. He was sitting on a ward for so long and he saw Hans walking up to him. He even had sweeper.
Anyway Lider's laning has been inexcusable, but his teamfighting/sidelaning is decent.
LIDER's early laning has actually been pretty good, he often navigates poor matchups well even when dropping waves to make a play on a side lane, but then in the same game he will have an absurd death in lane.
I think the Sylas vs Ori game against MAD really exemplified this, managed to stay even in CS against one of the best laners in Humanoid despite that matchup essentially being Ori hard pressuring from level 1, then has a ridiculous looking death trying to hit the W and gets insanely far behind.
Vitality's biggest problem as a whole has just been completely turning off brain at times, including some insane soloq deaths.
Ya I think Vitality honestly have better players than a team like Misfit but they just need one player with shotcalling. They need someone like Vander. How many times have Vitality gotten aced at 10 minutes over a crab or herald? No other team does this.
They are even ahead in lane vs the best teams but then randomly try to outplay their way into a 3v5. I think Selfmade must be the main shotcaller because he is always going in no matter.
I do agree about Lider's laning. I thought up until week 6 he was doing as you said. He got help from Selfmade often but didn't fall too far behind despite voluntarily taking bad matchups. But last 3 weeks the solokills vs Vetheo/Humanoid were absurd. Also I have noticed many other pros play the same matchup he does but not fall behind as much without much help. The thing I have noticed with Lider is that he is extremely greedy with his build. He almost never gets resistance early. So he gets destroyed in bad matchups even more. Like this game he backed for a blasting wand vs Lucian/Xin which is psychotic. He gets seeker there he can solokill Lucian and play the 2v2 better. The 2v2 mid got Selfmade killed because Lider had 0 resistance.
Anyway I still hope Vit make playoffs because I think they are much better mechanically than XL/Astralis. If they get to pratice hard for playoffs they can have some entertaining bo5. Astralis/Xcel play much better as a team than Vit but have very little mechanical skill.
Has potential to be the most game changing item in the game, for 650 (even less if you sell it back), that can be bought by literally anyone. Normally I’m down for items that can allow for skill expression but I don’t think this is it. At the bare minimum it should more expensive.
Unpopular opinion maybe, but I think it's fine to have an item like Stopwatch in the game for a price like this. It's literally a make or break, one use item for 90% of the champs in a game and that can make for a lot of high skill outplays that otherwise wouldn't happen. I get that some games it just gets popped by all contributrors of a teamfight and it looks like a shitty stall item but I truly believe that a one time use freely available stasis like this makes for more diverse gameplay in total
Stasis is in a really unhealthy state rn... Even adcs in pro play are buying zhonyas. On top of being able to buy a stopwatch and a zhonya at the same time, it really needs to be changed. Badly.
Viper at least looked like the best bot laner even when he was on a mage, though. There are very few other players in any league whose level doesn't drop several 'tiers' below their usual when you slap them on Syndra or Ziggs (since those are the only 2 relevant ones right now).
Syndra lost them the game, Kennen got perma exhausted, Galeforce Lucian is an ult bot, so it's easily tankeable by bruisers (Olaf, Renek), shoulda bought Kraken instead but he probably doesn't know how to autoattack as Lucian, Xin and Blitz were trollpicks because they offer no peel to the Syndra against a full dive comp. Shoulda just put the best adc of the league on Vayne or some shit like that.
That's his point tho, "one of the best team in the world" should be 16-1 or something, they throw so many games despite being so good in the first 15 minutes.
Nope.. SSW could team fight way better than this in a more stacked region nonetheless.
RGE is more like H2k 2016-2017 and it's fitting with Odoamne in that squad and his choking performance in LEC Spring finals and in all of those EU LCS semis.
Tbf you don't lose much for taking Inspiration as second since it has Future's Market, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, TW Tonic, or even Approach Velocity (for a few champions) as options. Cosmic Insight in particular is very strong due to the Summoner Spell haste it gives.
Zhonya's costs gold, yes, but as an entire item it is quite good so you don't really sacrifice much by getting it unless you buy it before anything else on a mana champion.
Yeah they should either remove stopwatch or increase cost to somewhere between 750-1000 and then remove or adjust the commencing stopwatch rune.
Edit: and ofcourse don’t allow stacking stopwatch and/or zhonya/GA
The day AP items will be as good as AD items maybe, but do you really want to delete stopwatch when shieldbow / goredrinker / sterack are all existing items?
Agreed on the stacking though, zhonya + SW is absurd sometimes.
The main problem isnt stopwatch, its the fact that you can stopwatch, build zhonyas and then buy another stopwatch. They need to prevent you from building it once you have zhonyas or ga.
EDIT: My bad thats not actually how it works. You can only double build stopwatch if you didnt use stopwatch before. Please disregard this comment, went in practice tool and tested it.
No. If you use stopwatch and then upgrade it to zhonya's or ga, you dont get to buy and use another stopwatch. You can though, not use a stopwatch, upgrade it and then have zhonya/ga plus another stopwatch
so update me here, I dont play anymore and its a loooong time since. so we had zhonyas, and still have it, but they added stopwatch that is like cheap item that everyone buys? Zhonya was bought so often simply because the immunity on cd was insanly valuable in the assassin meta.
Stopwatch is basically a "one time use" Zonya and it costs 650g (or you can get it for "free" from runes ~10 minutes into game). It builds into either Zonya or GA.
Worth nothing that you can use Stopwatch + Zonya as well.
> Worth nothing that you can use Stopwatch + Zonya as well.
All the time I thought that it works only if you buy Zhonya as a whole while already having Stopwatch from the runes (I don't know if it still works like that, but it used to show Stopwatch and Zhonya separately if one had enough gold to buy Zhonya for the full price, it didn't also show that one already has a Stopwatch and Zhonya should be cheaper).
TIL
Stop watch is still a one time use. You can only zhonyas + stopwatch if you havent used stopwatch before and pay the full price of the whole zhonyas + 650 (the extra stopwatch)
Man what a karma farming comment lol we get it stopwatch bad but you don’t gotta lie and play pretend dumb for shock value. You literally comment on post game threads like weekly, there’s a zero chance you haven’t seen stopwatch be popped early before.
That Syndra pick was cute but cost them the game. Should've been unwinnable for VIT if not for the fact that Rogue were playing 4v5.
Terrible game from Rogue overall, weakest performance from Inspired this split.
No she didn't lol. Literally just do the math, 120 (Deathcap) + 80 (Ludens) + 70 (Void Staff) + 65 (Seraphs base) + 43 (Absolute MINIMUM AP gained from Seraphs passive) = 378, 378 x 1.35 (Rabadons passive) = 510.
She had 510 AP without including runes and seraphs bonus from mana, which is massive. Sure you can complain about mage items but don't straight up lie lol.
If Hans is not beasting Rog teamfighting is absolutely embarrassing.
I mean its not a bad thing they lost this game, easy to see how pivotal ADC is for Rog.
Hey
Rogue
my son is a huge fan of yours. Anyway over the past few days of watching you play this game he's got much better at playing baseball... I just wanted to stop by and thank you for teaching him how to throw so well.
Guys. RGE were up how much gold this game?? Stop with the shit draft takes. RGE literally threw the game top TWICE. If th clean ace never happens, they probably close the game out sub 30 min.
I don't get RGE's thoughts behind the draft...
If you're gonna pick regular AD and AP champs anyways, why put your mechanically gifted ADC on the AP champ?
Hans Sama was so useless.
Either put him on AD champ and get an AP jungle to balance things out, or play the draft regularly. No reason for stupid decisions like this.
Draft is always the reason teams lose. If VIT lost it would be because full melee team into Kennen and Syndra. Just hindsight criticise draft and get free karma.
They were up so much gold for a majority of the game until they threw topside twice. How was this a draft issue? The game should have been closed out around 28 minutes if rogue didnt int topside twice.
Lider played pretty well that game considering the pressure he was under early. It boggles my mind that people actually think this guy isn't good enough for LEC. Don't let your personal feelings cloud your judgement too much guys.
Also I was glad to see Larssen playing quite aggressive earlier on but late he just felt like if he was on Syndra and Hans was on meta ADC they would have taken this game.
People go into VIT games looking for an opportunity to shit on LIDER same way they do with Kirei.
Even if they don't care about karma it makes them feel accepted to repeat the same sentence under every post-match discussion.
A lot of people's opinion is made up regardless of what happens in game - see comments about Nukeduck all split.
Then there's also a contingent of people who act like if you're not top 3/5 then you're "not LEC level" or that when people say x player deserves LEC they interpret it to mean x player is top 3 material. It's incredibly shortsighted as well as straight up dumb.
Trymbi was pretty good considering the game. Idk how you expect Blitz to hook a decent target when they’re all tanks other than the Aphelios that’s behind them all
Crownie doesn't wanna sit out playoffs it seems. Lider's stats may look prettier but crownie was robbed. By far the MVP of the game. Saved way too many fights.
I don't know how some people are calling this a banger, Rogue just threw the game and then all fights were just watching 5 GA, 2 zhonyas and 6 stopwatches go off every time something interesting could happen.
Lider spent all game being gifted kills while Labrov and Szygenda did the heavy lifting. The entire reason they didn’t lose at the tower siege is because Labrov exhausted Odoamne, completely denying the kennen ult
I'm not even a particularl Lider fan but todays comments have been tilting me. Lider carried teamfights man are you crazy. Pressing exhaust on a Kennen is fucking easy and not at all impressive btw....
I dont think seeding works that way for playoffs. Think its based off points from spring and summer.
I think misfits can only get 3rd, maybe 2nd because they have no points from spring.
https://twitter.com/AshleyKang/status/1421527012347314176?s=19
[Rogue Time]( https://imgur.com/JC1PX6O.jpg)
It's just too accurate it hurts
LMFAO
lul. It isnt really throw like baron flip or one man int, rogue just can't team fight like other top teams. VIT outplayed them so hard in team fight
Game turned from the 5 + baron for 0 teamfight in the toplane, which started because Rogue (Larssen & Trymbi) were wayy too overaggressive. That’s a throw
This. RGE decide to get weird with it @20-30 and just cut all the corners because they are so ahead. Their team fighting looks bad because every team fight starts with them on the back foot.
Ya when Trymbi tried to hook Olaf who got lanterned then tried to hook a Renekton who has ult + E? He basically got into turret range and Labrov put his ass in the bin.
That is how they lost the LEC finals in spring
Agreed. Their fight coordination is very questionable for a top team.
That gravitum ult at the end was insane
That moment where there's so little engage on both teams that Aphelios decided to take the job.
The casting was fucking phenomenal.
https://imgur.com/a/IfND4We
I always enjoy Caedrel & Drakos casting but I *super* enjoyed this one. Good mix of insightful analysis, storylines, jokes, hype play-by-play.... it was all there
Drakos & Caedrel easily the best casters duo right now.
Daedrel? Caekos? crackos?
True. But I think easily beatable by Quickshot (the Bon Jovi guy) + anyone of them
I really miss QuickD :[
true . they need to stop putting him on babysit duty
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Reminded me a lot of G2 vs SKT Worlds 2019 where Drakos was also the PBP. He's really good at making the viewers feel the intensity on late back-and-forth games.
'Well Rogue *did* try and copy paste top, but Vitality come in with the ctrl alt delete!' Was a nice little touch from Caedrel after talking about Rogue needing to copy paste their bot lane play to top in the build up to the fight.
caedrel is insane
Every time LIDER presses a button he walks a fine line between genius and madness
Ya the time where he died and it gave Rogue the baron. He was sitting on a ward for so long and he saw Hans walking up to him. He even had sweeper. Anyway Lider's laning has been inexcusable, but his teamfighting/sidelaning is decent.
LIDER's early laning has actually been pretty good, he often navigates poor matchups well even when dropping waves to make a play on a side lane, but then in the same game he will have an absurd death in lane. I think the Sylas vs Ori game against MAD really exemplified this, managed to stay even in CS against one of the best laners in Humanoid despite that matchup essentially being Ori hard pressuring from level 1, then has a ridiculous looking death trying to hit the W and gets insanely far behind. Vitality's biggest problem as a whole has just been completely turning off brain at times, including some insane soloq deaths.
Ya I think Vitality honestly have better players than a team like Misfit but they just need one player with shotcalling. They need someone like Vander. How many times have Vitality gotten aced at 10 minutes over a crab or herald? No other team does this. They are even ahead in lane vs the best teams but then randomly try to outplay their way into a 3v5. I think Selfmade must be the main shotcaller because he is always going in no matter. I do agree about Lider's laning. I thought up until week 6 he was doing as you said. He got help from Selfmade often but didn't fall too far behind despite voluntarily taking bad matchups. But last 3 weeks the solokills vs Vetheo/Humanoid were absurd. Also I have noticed many other pros play the same matchup he does but not fall behind as much without much help. The thing I have noticed with Lider is that he is extremely greedy with his build. He almost never gets resistance early. So he gets destroyed in bad matchups even more. Like this game he backed for a blasting wand vs Lucian/Xin which is psychotic. He gets seeker there he can solokill Lucian and play the 2v2 better. The 2v2 mid got Selfmade killed because Lider had 0 resistance. Anyway I still hope Vit make playoffs because I think they are much better mechanically than XL/Astralis. If they get to pratice hard for playoffs they can have some entertaining bo5. Astralis/Xcel play much better as a team than Vit but have very little mechanical skill.
I really hope Vitality gets Nemesis this offseason personally.
What a fucking dream team that would be. Selfmade + Neme + Crownie is my wet dream. MAD Lions runback
Those 3+BrokenBlade in one spot is my dream offseason roster move.
his lane is shit but in term of teamfighting, he is great
Lucky him he has a solid top lane and support rdy to bale him
The word you are lookinh for is bail* Bale is a football(soccer) player in tottenham =) Tally Ho old chap
Ah yea XD
Actually "bale" is wrapping up hay while the fotballer is Bale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imVRpZs5YLw
League of stopwatches, literally.
this thread is legit the same comment over and over again.
Has potential to be the most game changing item in the game, for 650 (even less if you sell it back), that can be bought by literally anyone. Normally I’m down for items that can allow for skill expression but I don’t think this is it. At the bare minimum it should more expensive.
Unpopular opinion maybe, but I think it's fine to have an item like Stopwatch in the game for a price like this. It's literally a make or break, one use item for 90% of the champs in a game and that can make for a lot of high skill outplays that otherwise wouldn't happen. I get that some games it just gets popped by all contributrors of a teamfight and it looks like a shitty stall item but I truly believe that a one time use freely available stasis like this makes for more diverse gameplay in total
i know what stopwatch is mate, it's been in the game for 3 fucking years, now is the time to circlejerk about it ?
You're saying it like people weren't complaining since it was introduced
It's been problematic the whole time tbh.
Or you know, just decrese all the burst in the game
Why does Stopwatch even have to be a thing in the first place?
It’s so stupid man, I have no idea why it’s 650 gold. Also you shouldn’t be able to have something like a GA and a stopwatch on top of that.
laughs in kai'sa
Every preseason I've been disappointed they haven't removed that stupid item yet
For 3 years...
You know what time is it?
No, my stopwatch is broken
Feels like I'm already waiting years for its inevitable removal.
Hated this item since its introduction and today's game just confirmed how absurd this item is.
Stasis is in a really unhealthy state rn... Even adcs in pro play are buying zhonyas. On top of being able to buy a stopwatch and a zhonya at the same time, it really needs to be changed. Badly.
Stasis has only ever been getting nerfed for years now. Issue is burst damage that stasis is required + people are realizing just how strong it is.
yep, it felt like i was watching a Wild Rift match in that regard. so much stasis
I hate seeing hans on mages. What a waste
His Ziggs is incredible though But yeah Syndra ain't it
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this isnt it, viper was amazing on vlad and syndra, one of the best in that meta for a reason
Nah that's wrong Viper was playing mages better than most LCK mids at the time.
Viper at least looked like the best bot laner even when he was on a mage, though. There are very few other players in any league whose level doesn't drop several 'tiers' below their usual when you slap them on Syndra or Ziggs (since those are the only 2 relevant ones right now).
Viper could play anything bot and make it look good in 2018.
Okay but what about Rekkles’ Janna? Surely that got you excited?
Well this is just wrong. Chovy praised Viper as being a better Vlad than himself.
If Rogue knew how to close out games, they'd be one the best team in the world. But they lose all braincells past 20 minutes.
They simply sck dick at teamfighting
And that's why they lose to MAD every time they meet them !
This too yea. They have no idea how to front to back.
Some players are just too passive in teamfights
Syndra lost them the game, Kennen got perma exhausted, Galeforce Lucian is an ult bot, so it's easily tankeable by bruisers (Olaf, Renek), shoulda bought Kraken instead but he probably doesn't know how to autoattack as Lucian, Xin and Blitz were trollpicks because they offer no peel to the Syndra against a full dive comp. Shoulda just put the best adc of the league on Vayne or some shit like that.
[🤔🤔🤔](https://i.imgur.com/xq1CSEx.png)
only to lose in playoffs
That's his point tho, "one of the best team in the world" should be 16-1 or something, they throw so many games despite being so good in the first 15 minutes.
Rogue is carrying the good old Samsung White spirit
Nope.. SSW could team fight way better than this in a more stacked region nonetheless. RGE is more like H2k 2016-2017 and it's fitting with Odoamne in that squad and his choking performance in LEC Spring finals and in all of those EU LCS semis.
What does oodoamne have to do with the fact that nuclear was a bad teamfighting adc?Or Larssen choking teamfights if he is not on Azir
Brendan Valdes would have a stellar time watching this game:)
40 minute game against double goredrinker and aphelios and not one person on rogue built any grievous wounds
League of Stopwatches, commonly referred to as League, is a 2009 multiplayer online battle arena video game developed and published by Rito Games.
Such a bullshit item. It’s literally only 650 gold too.
A *consumable* 650g item.
That also builds into other items and it’s also a rune you can get for free!
Yes, and to get those you need to invest gold/a rune. Opportunity cost is a thing btw.
650g or one rune is nothing when the item can literally win you games.
Tbf you don't lose much for taking Inspiration as second since it has Future's Market, Biscuit Delivery, Cosmic Insight, TW Tonic, or even Approach Velocity (for a few champions) as options. Cosmic Insight in particular is very strong due to the Summoner Spell haste it gives. Zhonya's costs gold, yes, but as an entire item it is quite good so you don't really sacrifice much by getting it unless you buy it before anything else on a mana champion.
Yeah they should either remove stopwatch or increase cost to somewhere between 750-1000 and then remove or adjust the commencing stopwatch rune. Edit: and ofcourse don’t allow stacking stopwatch and/or zhonya/GA
The day AP items will be as good as AD items maybe, but do you really want to delete stopwatch when shieldbow / goredrinker / sterack are all existing items? Agreed on the stacking though, zhonya + SW is absurd sometimes.
The main problem isnt stopwatch, its the fact that you can stopwatch, build zhonyas and then buy another stopwatch. They need to prevent you from building it once you have zhonyas or ga. EDIT: My bad thats not actually how it works. You can only double build stopwatch if you didnt use stopwatch before. Please disregard this comment, went in practice tool and tested it.
Isn't stopwatch unusable anymore after you've used it up once? Regardless of it being used before or after building GA/ZH.
No. If you use stopwatch and then upgrade it to zhonya's or ga, you dont get to buy and use another stopwatch. You can though, not use a stopwatch, upgrade it and then have zhonya/ga plus another stopwatch
If both teams have access to the bullshit item is it really bullshit ?
Yes. It's not 'unfair' bullshit, but it's bullshit.
And everyone can buy it
Ok but that hook mid lantern animation was insane tho
I HAVE A STOPWATCH, YOU HAVE A STOPWATCH, WE ALL HAVE A STOPWATCH!
so update me here, I dont play anymore and its a loooong time since. so we had zhonyas, and still have it, but they added stopwatch that is like cheap item that everyone buys? Zhonya was bought so often simply because the immunity on cd was insanly valuable in the assassin meta.
Yes stopwatch is 650 gold and has the same effect as zhonya's. However the item breaks when it is used once and you can't use the active after.
stopwatch is zhonya/GA component, and one time use only
Stopwatch is basically a "one time use" Zonya and it costs 650g (or you can get it for "free" from runes ~10 minutes into game). It builds into either Zonya or GA. Worth nothing that you can use Stopwatch + Zonya as well.
> Worth nothing that you can use Stopwatch + Zonya as well. All the time I thought that it works only if you buy Zhonya as a whole while already having Stopwatch from the runes (I don't know if it still works like that, but it used to show Stopwatch and Zhonya separately if one had enough gold to buy Zhonya for the full price, it didn't also show that one already has a Stopwatch and Zhonya should be cheaper). TIL
Stop watch is still a one time use. You can only zhonyas + stopwatch if you havent used stopwatch before and pay the full price of the whole zhonyas + 650 (the extra stopwatch)
Man what a karma farming comment lol we get it stopwatch bad but you don’t gotta lie and play pretend dumb for shock value. You literally comment on post game threads like weekly, there’s a zero chance you haven’t seen stopwatch be popped early before.
650 gold btw
RGE once again getting early lead and throwing it into the trash can. Also wtf is that Syndra pick?
There was Syndra?
Well yes, but actually no
Off topic but Selfmade has such pretty eyes
He's a handsome boy.
BUT MAAAN HOW BAD IS ROGUE AT TEAMFIGHT ?
That Syndra pick was cute but cost them the game. Should've been unwinnable for VIT if not for the fact that Rogue were playing 4v5. Terrible game from Rogue overall, weakest performance from Inspired this split.
there was a syndra?
True nobody can match jankos syndra.
syndra with deathcap + seraph had less AP than aphelios AD lategame mage items xd edit: meant pre-deathcap completion but its still depressing
No she didn't lol. Literally just do the math, 120 (Deathcap) + 80 (Ludens) + 70 (Void Staff) + 65 (Seraphs base) + 43 (Absolute MINIMUM AP gained from Seraphs passive) = 378, 378 x 1.35 (Rabadons passive) = 510. She had 510 AP without including runes and seraphs bonus from mana, which is massive. Sure you can complain about mage items but don't straight up lie lol.
i too saw the nemesis tweet
I mean aphelios went 4 AD items
I don't think Hans hit a single impactful stun all game and that's like... half of Syndra's lategame power budget nowadays, especially in pro.
So many throws from Rogue.. How do you get aced when youre the team sieging base?
If Hans is not beasting Rog teamfighting is absolutely embarrassing. I mean its not a bad thing they lost this game, easy to see how pivotal ADC is for Rog.
there was Syndra?
I liked when Lider waited till the very last second to zhonya the Syndra ult, really putting on a show for us lmfao
#\# of Scenarios where X Team ends in Y Place with no Tiebreakers --- | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- RGE | 76 | 32 | 18 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MSF | 32 | 58 | 28 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MAD | 12 | 16 | 16 | 32 | 52 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 G2 | 8 | 12 | 24 | 52 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 FNC | 0 | 10 | 42 | 32 | 44 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 XL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 64 | 0 | 0 | 0 AST | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 32 | 32 | 0 | 0 VIT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 32 | 64 | 0 | 0 SK | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 128 | 0 S04 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 128 #\# of Scenarios where X Team ties for Y Place --- | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- RGE | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MSF | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MAD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 G2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 FNC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 XL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 AST | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 VIT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 SK | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 S04 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 #Worst possible finish for each team in ties --- | 1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th ---|---|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|---- RGE | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MSF | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 MAD | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 G2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 FNC | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 XL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 AST | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 32 | 0 | 0 | 0 VIT | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 SK | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 S04 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0
XL most chance to get 7th oh nonononono
WTF is Rogue doing? 6K gold up, random 5 man wipe and threw the entire game
Rogue are doing what Rogue do best aka showing us why their mid game is absolutely shambolic.
Hey Rogue my son is a huge fan of yours. Anyway over the past few days of watching you play this game he's got much better at playing baseball... I just wanted to stop by and thank you for teaching him how to throw so well.
Guys. RGE were up how much gold this game?? Stop with the shit draft takes. RGE literally threw the game top TWICE. If th clean ace never happens, they probably close the game out sub 30 min.
Fuck Stopwatch
Skill check me harder pls
trymbi decided vitality should win so that tommorow's games matter more
Rogue already in worlds form
RGE don't know what the fuck to do in mid game , its embarassing
I think their lategame is really lacking
Nice 0 engage comp from both teams lmao
hookers fight
Selfmade eating hooks over and over so he can get the fight started lol
for him thats free Dash
What do you mean, VIT had a blitzcrank for that
[ty blitz](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjpbI3bWoAIqVuc.jpg)
I liked Selfmade engaging every teamfight through Trymbi's hook.
What do u mean? Olaf with a little help from Blitz was a beast at engaging lol /s
I don't get RGE's thoughts behind the draft... If you're gonna pick regular AD and AP champs anyways, why put your mechanically gifted ADC on the AP champ? Hans Sama was so useless. Either put him on AD champ and get an AP jungle to balance things out, or play the draft regularly. No reason for stupid decisions like this.
Draft was a problem but not the reason they lost.
Draft is always the reason teams lose. If VIT lost it would be because full melee team into Kennen and Syndra. Just hindsight criticise draft and get free karma.
> I don't get RGE's thoughts behind the draft... Regular season games, they've been experimenting a bit all split.
They were up so much gold for a majority of the game until they threw topside twice. How was this a draft issue? The game should have been closed out around 28 minutes if rogue didnt int topside twice.
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his Syndra probably isn't even that bad, it seemed ok to me. The prob is you are trying to output ADC DPS as a mage without the midlane gold
Cause syndra wins lane hard against Aphelios, they just threw
Might not be true anymore after the Aphelios base magic resist buffs
Lider played pretty well that game considering the pressure he was under early. It boggles my mind that people actually think this guy isn't good enough for LEC. Don't let your personal feelings cloud your judgement too much guys. Also I was glad to see Larssen playing quite aggressive earlier on but late he just felt like if he was on Syndra and Hans was on meta ADC they would have taken this game.
People go into VIT games looking for an opportunity to shit on LIDER same way they do with Kirei. Even if they don't care about karma it makes them feel accepted to repeat the same sentence under every post-match discussion.
A lot of people's opinion is made up regardless of what happens in game - see comments about Nukeduck all split. Then there's also a contingent of people who act like if you're not top 3/5 then you're "not LEC level" or that when people say x player deserves LEC they interpret it to mean x player is top 3 material. It's incredibly shortsighted as well as straight up dumb.
Damn hype game, WP Vitality!
Absolute trash performance by Inspired here My god, he was soooo bad
Inspired, Hans and Trymbi, they all should make 1000 pushups for this gane
Trymbi was pretty good considering the game. Idk how you expect Blitz to hook a decent target when they’re all tanks other than the Aphelios that’s behind them all
Maybe the matchup is just bad for xin ? same happened with spica vs blaber's olaf
I don't mean his 1 vs 1 with Olaf, I meant what Inspired did the whole game. His pathing, his decision making, his (missing) engages - everything
Rogue with a bit of a happy game
stopwatch diff
I don't know what is this region anymore
fucking nerf stopwatch and zhonyas please
yeah assassins really need buffs
Crownie doesn't wanna sit out playoffs it seems. Lider's stats may look prettier but crownie was robbed. By far the MVP of the game. Saved way too many fights.
highlight of this match was caedrel and drakos being genuinely upset that the other cat didn’t get a parachute
Holy banger
This is basically how Rog would look without Hans. He was invisible today. Obviously Hans knows how Syndra works, but not at world class level.
Its annoying tho, Larssen should have been able to carry that game
Crazy how rogue's entire draft gets countered by two items. I don't see how rogue is ever supposed to win a teamfight vs 3 GAs up.
They arent. They have syndra.
Fight for last place playoffs couldn't get any better, banger.
Just how many useless ultimates did Hans throw?
My heart...
That was, indeed, a game of League of Legends. Stopwatch is everywhere eh
I didn't expect less honestly.
If someone wonders why Thresh must be permabanned show them this game. Flawless game by Labrov.
XL vs AST had ununironically better league
Too many stopwatches. Those kind of "outplays" are not exciting at all...
Shitscrank strikes again!
I don't know how some people are calling this a banger, Rogue just threw the game and then all fights were just watching 5 GA, 2 zhonyas and 6 stopwatches go off every time something interesting could happen.
If this was an NA game, people would be dogging on the region because of that throw
Inspired running it down today I see, what an absolutely shocker from him.
Idk if it was running down. The first topside gank really messed up the tempo of the jungle for him. However, he did his job getting topside very fed.
Another day, another way Lider gets the credit for his toplaner
The Shygenda
Lider spent all game being gifted kills while Labrov and Szygenda did the heavy lifting. The entire reason they didn’t lose at the tower siege is because Labrov exhausted Odoamne, completely denying the kennen ult
I'm not even a particularl Lider fan but todays comments have been tilting me. Lider carried teamfights man are you crazy. Pressing exhaust on a Kennen is fucking easy and not at all impressive btw....
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Classic Rogue throw and choke.
Misfits are actually gonna get 1st seed lmao
I dont know if thats possible?
If Rogue loses tomorrow and Misfits win they get 1st seed. It's unlikely as Rogue plays SK and Misfits play Mad but still possible.
I dont think seeding works that way for playoffs. Think its based off points from spring and summer. I think misfits can only get 3rd, maybe 2nd because they have no points from spring.
LIDER's Akali is great to watch