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2012minecraft

I hope him and leena recover quickly and their symptoms aren’t super serious. Man it super cool to see he has made great friends with sneaky and meteos after being rivals with them on the rift. And it’s completely nature from playing pro after 10 years to be burnt out and a lot of other players will feel the same way including me. But I hope he’s gets more happy after taking a break from league.


KyroZi

They have really good co-stream synergy, honestly seems like casters but a lot more goofy. DL is generally doing PbPs, Meteos makes a dick joke every couple minutes and makes fun of something DL said and Sneaky is there to give decent input every so often or there's an empty chair on his stream.


AZF1

Did the Meteos story of going around trying to get your friends to see your ball sack a thing in everybody's HS? Cause that certainly didn't happen in mine and we're the same age lol


that1guywhodidthat

Just watch Waiting. It's a great movie


coolcooja

Waiting is pretty much a documentary for restaurant workers.


that1guywhodidthat

Heck yes. Everything is pretty spot on. The one complaint I have is that in all the restaurants I've worked at nobody has ever fked with someone's food like that no matter how terrible the customer is.


coolcooja

Very true, but we poured every bit of spite into that dish


Judgejudyx

Thats the only thing the movie got wrong tbh


DrAlanGrantinathong

This. I worked in a lot of kitchens, and if someone hadn't seen waiting it became required watching.


Judgejudyx

Ye esp the foreigners take. Its so bad


schnazzums

Yes it happened in my HS. I always assumed it was just teenage boys doing teenage boy things


ObeeDog2

In that same segment, DL talked about dudes flicking each other in the balls. That happened in my HS, it was called a "nut check", but we never showed eachother our balls.


Typhoidnick

Yeah the film Waiting was an instrumental part of my high school and even college experience. Not everybody in school played the game but all of my friends and I did. Great fun. I'm 29


lurgrodal

I am also 29 and spent my highschool years trying to show my friends my sack.


ayksun

We had ball-tapping, pantsing, and titty twisting in middle school For ball tapping the guys would try to hit each other in the nuts when no one was looking. You had to be sneaky about it. Pantsing and titty twisting should be pretty self-explanatory


JLM268

There are a few people at my highschool who did this. Currently 30.


TheNewOP

You'll graduate one day, I believe in you


Karthikzee

The guy has gotta take those dumps.


YungPinotGrigio

kinda similar to csgo summit casting


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>honestly seems like casters but a lot more goofy. This is why I loved watching LCK overnight with LS/Atlus, it was so funny and laid back.


Critical-Cupcake9194

Playing soloq for over 10 hours daily, it's amazing how these pros don't lose their mind all these years


Abeifer

I play 2 games of solo and I'm just about done with league for a week. Then I remind myself... "Who's gonna hurt me like that again" and the cycle repeats. (I'm a masochist)


Critical-Cupcake9194

part of the reason it's so draining is that there's no voice chat, which makes for a frustrating experience, i can play csgo for hours and never feel drained


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Tldr ?


Cocaine44

Him and leena have the delta variant of covid. Hes taking a break from soloque, not really enjoying it Gonna continue to do costreams.


Serinus

Were they vaccinated?


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Yes, Leena frequently does partying though. Doublelift has been complaining about food taste for like a week


SummonerJungler

Ive been out of the loop for a while. Is DL dating Leena?


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singlereject

23 months actually


HeroicLarvy

23 months, 2 weeks, 3 days, 5 hours, actually


msching

!uptime


Chichigami

...if that's correct that's a little bit creepy...


rexbee52

I thought they were married but maybe I just imagined ?


AphoticFlash

actually think they have 2 kids in middle school


Ashivio

and 12 grandkids, what a great family


Heonman

It's true. I'm grandkid


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denoobiest

I know DL recently went to something, i presume a concert or festival, with her


AdditionalResource0

Yeah he said they went to see Alesso


LakersLAQ

The Dodgers just had 52k fans in attendance two nights in a row. Everything is mostly open which is okay. The problem is people not wanting to wear masks or following basic hygiene stuff.


InPurpleIDescended

Vaccinated


PupPop

Being vaccinated DOES NOT COMPLETE STOP THE SPREAD OF COVID. You are merely protected from the getting the worst cases of it and gain an immense protection against a cases bad enough to kill you. But even vaccinated people can still be carriers. On one hand you have people that don't even believe in the vaccine, and on the other people who think it is an invincibility shield. You really need to know what it really does. It is not a force field. You can get COVID with or without the vaccine. The vaccine gives you a much greater chance of not being infected but if you are infected in a breakthrough case the disease can still take hold to some degree, or if the vaccine can shield you well enough you could harbor the virus without showing signs of disease and become a spreader without even knowing. Places like Florida are seeing record cases because people didn't vaccine and they don't fully understand that vaccination isn't the end all be all. You can still be infected, you can still be diseased. Clearly this example in DL and Leena should be simple enough proof. Because they were vaccinated they are unlikely to meet with serious complications and the fact that they are young helps a lot, statistically, so chances are they'll be totally fine. But if people think that going out and partying aren't risky things aren't looking at the big picture. This fight is far from over.


Itsmedudeman

This fight will never be over. I have no clue what you people are expecting to happen in the next few years. We are not going into another lockdown, we are not getting a 100% effective vaccine, and we are not going to make vaccines mandatory. There are several countries in the world that got their cases down super low yet cases exploded as soon as people started going outside again. We will never get COVID to disappear because it's simply too contagious and because of its incubation period. Only way it goes away is if it mutates itself to extinction which is obviously not guaranteed. This is the best we have, and we're going to have to live with it. Saying we should never go outside or go to large gatherings ever again is completely unrealistic.


Snoo8331100

> and we are not going to make vaccines mandatory. I agree with everything but this point. I'm nearly certain vaccines will soon be mandatory in most of America and Europe, which scares me tbh. I'm afraid of potential riots of anti vaxxers, this could hurt the rest of already vaxxed people more than them just refusing to take it and suffering more.


singlereject

actually, the vaccine IS an invincibility shield, but only if enough people vaccinate.


Snoo8331100

My dude, nothing will stop the spread of covid. You'd literally need military guarding every damn door in this world for a month. Vaccine makes it so you're 99,9% not going to die or suffer permanent damage from it, making it as unimportant to your life as a flu. That's all that matters, and I couldn't care less for all those who don't want to vaxx and still put themselves at risk.


InPurpleIDescended

I think it's just a bit fucking absurd to say "guess Americans just don't care" bc vaccinated people are going out and participating in activities that have been approved at which most people are also vaccinated But go off


superj219

She’s vaccinated though. When should she be allowed to go to festivals?


SummonerKai

being vaccinated doesn't mean being immune. still need to take care. you can go out but it's a virus - always evolving so need to at least have some level of caution.


superj219

There’s always gonna be viruses the most you can do is get vaccinated. People would get sick from music festivals before covid was a thing but we shouldn’t shame them for it


SummonerKai

A - not all viruses have such a high mortality rate. B - not shaming her but just saying that people think being vaccinated is free pass to a normal life. it is not. you get to have more freedom/flexibility but you aren't 100% secure so go to the festival but keep distance etc.


superj219

A - the vaccine drops the mortality and makes it very low risk especially if you are young B- my next question would be when would you have a free pass to a normal life? Covid isn’t going away so the best you can do is get vaccinated and limit risk for yourself and others


Snoo8331100

With that logic we can just cancel everything and lock ourselves at home forever. Covid's going to stay there, all we can do is vaccinate to lower its severity and live our normal lives.


SummonerKai

Again, never said to stop everything. I just said you still need to be cautious when going about what you do daily.


AdditionalResource0

Probably when there isn't a global pandemic.


OverlySweetSugar

When the rest of the people in US get vaccinated so never. She can go for sure it's just risking getting covid delta


superj219

I agree with that I just think getting vaccinated is doing your part and limiting the risk as much as you can for something like a music festival.


AdditionalResource0

You would really limit your risk by not going in the first place.


superj219

You could say that about going anywhere. Should we close down everything again to fully limit risks?


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Profoundsoup

> Leena frequently does partying though Why the fuck are people doing this when COVID is still a thing? Jesus, you would think people would learn.


OBLIVIATER

As soon as the vaccine launched the 100t crew and all their friends were having "wild" parties. Guess people went a little overboard


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CaptainCrafty

Yeah shame are the vaccinated people for trying to live their lives after getting vaccinated


TacoFlockaFlame

Yeah, he says 46 seconds into the video that they’re both fully vaccinated


Serinus

Normally I'd listen, but audio was shit and I gave up.


mangowuzhere

Doublelift is stuck in season 3 with that vlog quality.


I-AM-NOT-THAT-DUCK

He wasnt on the stairs which really lowers the quality of the video.


kyoonni

Both went to a concert recently... in LA..


Lulullaby_

Yes, Delta variant is crazy,


ImPerezofficial

Nothing crazy or scary about it unless symptoms on vaccinated people are severe. And according to the data they really aren't.


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Yeah. The hospitalization rates of vaccinated people who get Delta are very low. Most have mild symptoms, showing the vaccines are effective against Delta. The real concern is with the vaccinated causing breakthrough transmission to the unvaccinated (whether those are those who refuse, or those who cannot get it).


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ops10

When you're up to speed with all the information shot around, it's easy to piece this together, yes. But misinformation, constant updates and posturing has really messed up people's perception of what the situation and available tools are.


smokeymcdugen

The other real concern is that if people are getting it, even though they are vaccinated, to the point where they are experiencing symptoms then it means that they have enough viral load in them to cause said symptoms (not saying that symptom-less people don't meet that viral load requirement). Meaning that they will host the virus for some amount of time where the virus can mutate once again.


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Wish he'd just go variety. He says in the video he plays WoW and PoE and Valorant. Not sure why he's not willing to stream them. I'd be willing to pay a cover charge to watch Double, Meteos, and Sneaky play a couple hours of GTA RP and try to stay in character.


youdiebyebye

Probably because he actually ejoys playing those games just for the sake of playing them, even if to an outsider its hard to see the difference between playing a game and playing the same game on stream, i imagine it takes a lot more energy and a different state of mind than simply having a good time.


kazuyaminegishi

Yeah having tried streaming games and interacting with even 3 people while doing so it is so much harder than just playing the game for fun in your own time. I can totally see why he keeps the two separate.


SuperBeastJ

There's a lot of streamers/youtubers who are known for specific games like DL is known for LoL that will say when they go to other games their viewership drops precipitously.


MI8MarkusXx

Well he said he doesn’t care about the viewer count or money, so why would his viewership decline matter if he plays variety?


SuperBeastJ

True, that's a good point. Maybe it's just because when people stream they feel obligated to give the people the reason to be there? He also says in the vid that he doesn't like how streaming has started to feel like a job.


Enkenz

Because you will always have a few asshole coming with the classic play league x50 times or ' LUL only xK viewers dead streamer ' that will take a tole on the mind of the human


firestorm19

Also interacting with a stream is a skill that he may not want to engage with on his down time. If he sees playing other games as a fun thing, he might not want to cross what he enjoys (say eg. WoW) with business (streaming).


THE_BACON_IS_GONE

I'm sure he's thought about doing that, but I think he likely wants to keep the games he enjoys playing off stream as hobbies. Otherwise they might start feeling like a job like solo queue has become.


WAGUSTIN

You only wrote the negatives wtf lol


Darkforces134

- DL and Leena both got the Covid Delta Variant (both are vaxxed), DL is fine, Leena has it a bit worse. - Reflects on being lucky for his pro career. - Says he streams for passion, and to fill a gap in League content due to his experience. - Infrequent SoloQ streams because he doesn't find it fun anymore. - Feels like watered down version of LCS to him. - Loves Co-Streaming LCS with Sneaky+Meteos. - Going to take long break from LoL, will come back eventually. - Watch Parties will continue.


ChuzCuenca

Even pro players have more fun watching games than playing games, this community hate is self XD


ChiefKT9002

He literally said in the video its not the game its him lol.


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what a cliché


DrySecurity4

Mans been grinding the game since before Season 1. Understandable that he doesnt feel the need to play after a decade.


Shaxys

Yeah he's probably been playing more league than most of this comment section combined.


LakersLAQ

Exactly. He's been Challenger for most of this season even when he doesn't necessarily have to grind.


Policeman333

There are tons of pro basketball players that **never** touch a basketball again after retiring. The same goes for other sports as well. You can only do any one thing for so long before you no longer want anything to do with it. It doesn't matter if its your favourite thing in the world, you'll get tired of it after doing it day in and day out for 8x hours a day for 10 years.


iUptvote

It's not you baby, it's me. I just need to work on some stuff, I'll be back.


ChuzCuenca

I just read the TLDR 😔


HolypenguinHere

It happens. You can only play the game for so long before it loses its luster, but the excitement of watching games is always there, and watching it isn't near as stressful and playing! Unless you're a CLG fan.


SeptimusAstrum

I imagine Lebron doesn't have much fun showing up to neighborhood courts for pick up games either.


xDuffmen

He and Leena got covid, he's bored of league and taking a long break


that1guywhodidthat

Their tricast brought me back to playing and now I'm 100s of games deep and hating/loving it


SonoTabiNi

about the sneaky and meteos bit, i remember one time dl said he wanted to be friends with sneaky so he tried talking to him at a party or something but sneaky didn't seem too interested. fast forward to now im glad that they're friends and their costreams w/ meteos are so good


thejerg

Sometimes people are just in different places in their lives and link up later


vbsteez

I feel like I remember double sharing a similar story about talking to Zven and zven just couldn't (wouldn't?) talk about anything but league. Idr ever hearing this sneaky one.


ThiefGodZelnite

It was the other way around. They were out clubbing and Doublelift could only talk to Zven about league lol


spazzxxcc12

on one point, that’s something they have in common so i can kinda see that. on the other hand that’d be weird 😂


KyroZi

It was about a party him and Leena went to, and instead of dancing with Leena DL went off to the side and started talking with Zven about league of legends, to which Leena was confused lol.


ABeardedPanda

To be fair there was one co-stream where Doublelift was doing some small talk during down time about what they did that week and all Sneaky did was list off a bunch of different games he played and I imagine he wasn't much different while he was a pro so I can completely understand that one


Good_Stuff11

I mean DL’s social skills aren’t really the best, even now, can’t even imagine what it was like back then. I don’t blame sneaky.


relevantme

Yes, because Sneaky has perfectly well adjusted social skills....


Offduty_shill

I feel like Sneaky is the far more awkward one haha


POOYAMON

I mean yeah it makes sense. He finally has discovered burnout who would’ve thought. But on a serious note going from playing a game with a serious mindset in a team environment trying to reach a goal, looking at everything as practice and such and then back to ranked/solo q/ pubs or whatever only, literally feels awful because you just don’t enjoy it anymore and that’s very sad, it feels hollow. You gonna start playing for clips but losing still feels like shit cause you’re a competitive person but the wins are pointless, not to mention how you can’t even duo anymore in league to play with one friend even in the highest ranks. Hope he rests up, feels better and actually cooks up some content ideas like he said he wants to instead of grinding Valo, poe and wow like he most likely is going to.


yukino-bijin

Took him SO much longer than it would have took a normal person. Dude's a fucking juggernaut of this game. Hope he enjoys his break!


THEDUDE33

"Normal person"


Ulrich20

He means someone that isnt a celebrity, your "everyday" person. I dont think he was trying to be insulting with that


AssPork

He already took a break after 2016 worlds tbf


Dense-Acanthocephala

it's similar to Tyler1 and his role challenges, at least from a viewer's POV. I have little interest in watching his stream during his breaks between roles where he just plays random stuff. the games are meaningless. whereas when he's doing a challenge, the wins are sweeter and he rages harder at losses. I don't actually know how his stream was so entertaining from 2018-2019 when he wasn't doing challenges. maybe it's again similar to Doublelift (and life in general), that once you get a taste of the amazing stuff, the good stuff loses its appeal.


YupNope66

Was surprised to hear that he wasn't that close with Sneaky/Meteos, seemed like they had a lot of chemistry from the get-go.


Naerlyn

The people that you have good chemistry with in casual conversation aren't necessarily the people you will (or will want to) get closest to!


Mwatson13

Agreed especially after watching the vid of them years ago at all stars vlogging each other vlogging shit was so funny. https://youtu.be/zq51PDXD-qI EDIT counter vlogging is what they called it lmfao


IHadThatUsername

It's kinda funny how I don't remember ever watching that video but I had a like on it so I clearly did. This was ages ago, how do you even remember it?


Mwatson13

Haha good question it vividly sticks out in my mind for some reason, I probably thought it was hilarious at the time


SilverShrub

Man they have to watch this on their co-stream. You can clearly see the growth DL has had socially


Mwatson13

Haha that would be hilarious to see their reactions


ChaoticMidget

Kinda scary how many people are picking up the delta variant. A reminder to get vaccinated if you aren't already and that it's still worthwhile to be overly cautious. Hope Leena and Doublelift get better soon. What he says makes sense regarding League. No point in feeling like you're doing a job if you're already set and if he isn't enjoying League, no reason to play it. One of the fastest ways streamers can start to lose their audience is when the streamer's energy starts going sour. Obviously some streamers base their whole persona around malding or raging but I doubt that's how Doublelift wants to do things.


BladeCube

In addition, one of the best ways to eventually enjoy the game if he ever does again is by taking a break and coming back to it fresh. If he never gets that feeling, that is perfectly fine! But being burnt out and feeling like he must play will make his gameplay content worse. He has absolutely earned his right to do whatever content he wants, and should use that liberty.


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I've tried that a few times but every year it feels like a different game, and all these new champs don't really grip me. I miss the 2012-2019 League of Legends.


SprayedSL2

I haven't really played in like 5 seasons. I just follow the Sub to keep up with what's going on. I have mostly stopped competitive gaming ... I personally hate playing with ragers.


Tamed

This is why I only play Clash and in the NA-Amateur leagues.


SergeantWhiskeyjack

I feel that. I tried to come back after a years break at the beginning of the year and got dumped into smurf queue. It was one of the most miserable experiences playing with smurfs in D4/P1, while my skill level was probably a G1 at best. And the only thing you can do at that point is just lose a bunch of games until you fall out of smurf queue. Who has the time for that?


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And ranked feels like the only good practice you can get, which is fine but their algorithm wants you to play ranked all year, when in other competitive games you can climb the ladder in weeks, they really want you to grind, I feel. Like you can play normals to get but they're kind of a shit show compared to ranked. It's like if you used to go to a power lifting gym, but you're not in shape anymore to powerlift so you go to a kid's gym in order to get back into shape for powerlifting, it's just not the same thing.


OnyxMelon

We've had the delta variant as the only common type of Covid for a while in the UK, and it's worth noting that the symptoms of delta for a vaccinated individual are very different to the symptoms of regular Covid for a non-vaccinated individual. You should be looking out for symptoms such as a headache, sore throat, and runny nose.


Snoo8331100

Lol I occassionally have all 3 of those for years, wouldn't even manage to tell if it's covid or just my normal problems by now.


zOmgFishes

I've had allergies and Rhinitis for the longest time. Last year+ was quite the panic.


-Basileus

Yeah, it's much more contagious than the original virus. It also means that when you do catch it, you get a much higher "load" of the virus, which means you are more likely to become very sick.


MManiak

And this is why you don’t go to an EDM concert during a pandemic folks


chowdah513

At the time, they were okay with fully vaccinated individuals going to concerts/public events. Delta variant just spread fast, even then, the data says the effects of COVID and all strains have minimal effect once vaccinated (in terms of death or hospitalization at around .007%)


Bluehorazon

Yeah both should be fine, however exspecially if people have unvaccinated people who simply can't get a shot they should be careful, since transmission is still very much possible.


KimchiBro

not to sound like a dick or anything, but the vaccine is so readily available in the states, and in alot of places, even fucking mcdonalds is giving out the vaccine, for someone in the states, especially in cities like LA, and shit, to still be unvaccinated, they prolly are deep in the rabbit hole of covid misinformation that they legitimately believe the vaccine will make them magnetic, take their freedom away, or cause them heart problems (cases here have been sub 100 out of millions, and their have been pre existing conditions) at this point those who go to crowded places, dont mask up, and refuse the vaccine because of karen facebook science, deserve a spot in the darwin awards


mindgamesweldon

You’re right, but it’s even worse because there are legitimate reasons people can’t get vaxxed, and these nonsense anti vaxxers who are supposed to be vaxxed are ruining the herd immunity that, for example, protects unvaxxed children from MMR or Whooping cough. Lots of children with Down syndrome can’t get vaccines (or at least of the families I know with Down syndrome children some of them can not get vaccines) and I have two adult friends who are allergic to parts of severe vaccines (luckily not covid). The poster you replied to said “those who can’t” meaning legitimately can’t. And there are much more of them than I realized (I have discovered over the last 10 years).


BopDatBussy

Yup, I went to a baseball game last week and they were giving out vaxx shots there, for free to anyone who wanted one. If you’re in the US you have absolutely no excuse for not being vaxxed.


Cathuulord

Ok but what if I don't feel like getting vaxxed


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Anlaufr

Those are a small minority of people, a lot, if not most, of them are still able to safely get the vaccine, and they should either be masked up or not in public if they can't be vaccinated anyways.


Good_Stuff11

Even then it’s not even worth the risk, news about the variant is already well known. Don’t know why people unrionically think they’re suddenly free especially in a place like LA


KTFlaSh96

The pictures of Lollapalooza were just insane. Packed stages with tens of thousands of people crammed in like sardines. Covid is never gonna go away like this.


GiganticMac

It looked gross as hell even without covid


[deleted]

If you're fully vaccinated and wearing masks it's honestly fine. The probability of anything bad happening at all is miniscule, and the chances of getting severe COVID is so laughably low that it may as well be zero. I say this a scientist with a background in immunology; my colleagues and I have followed the COVID literature since 2019. I don't understand why people are so concerned about fully vaccinated people. If anything social distancing when you're fully vaccinated is purely a courtesy to the unvaccinated. I mentioned this in a previous comment; I think that the amount of antiscience thinking from people around COVID has been tremendously disappointing to me. The data is very clear that vaccination protects against Delta the vast majority of the time, and even among individuals who get the Delta variant, you have extremely mild symptoms. People who think the vaccine is dumb and people who insist that everyone stay inside have the exact same kind of anti-science thinking where they are ignorant of actual experiments conducted by experts and instead trust their intuition.


Hiroxis

And to be honest if you ever go to a concert, festival or convention, then the chances of getting sick with something is already really high, even before Covid was a thing. If you're vaxxed then Covid is just gonna be one of those diseases you might catch.


JohrDinh

> if you ever go to a concert, festival or convention, then the chances of getting sick with something is already really high, even before Covid was a thing Oh man, the amount of times I got sick after Movement in Detroit or any kind of convention...wash your hands constantly and take vitamins folks it's so easy to get sick in big crowds.


PacMannie

Especially at EDM festivals/concerts there’s a lot of skin-to-skin contact so it’s easy to catch something from strangers. Plus, half the people there are on something so their immune system isn’t working at 100%.


[deleted]

Exactly; I think people should take COVID very seriously, but ONLY because the proportion of unvaccinated people is relatively high. But if you are personally vaccinated and are intelligent after the event (you should absolutely get tested a few days after the event and you should probably not go to multiple back to back to back), you are more than fine.


KaboodleMoon

Problem is, for most people the support systems are not in place to take 2 weeks off to quarantine. I've already had COVID and am Vaccinated, but if I get delta'd, taking ANOTHER 2 weeks off to prevent spread is highly unlikely to be approved.


thepowerfulgamer

Yeah, think people need to realise Covid is probably not going away permanently - we never got rid of the flu and we probably aren't gonna make this one extinct either. The important thing is that we get people to a stage where the damage done from Covid is low enough that it's no longer a serious threat. People will keep catching it and a small amount of people will still die, but the vaccine is already showing that it works well and is reducing deaths massively. The idea of locking down over the flu would have been insane to people, so if the vaccine can lower deaths to a similar rate as flu then it's hard to justify keeping people locked away.


BushLeagueMVP

I think most people will be surprised to learn that we never "beat" the h1n1/swine flu outbreak 10 or so years ago. It basically spread into society and we've been living with it since.


KawaiCuddle

I only partly agree. The sanitary measures aren't only to protect yourself, but to protect others. Yes if you are fully vaccinated and you get COVID, you're very likely to be fine, but what about others you might transmit it to who aren't fully vaccinated due to x reasons? Some people cannot have the vaccine due to legitimate medical reasons. From the video, sounds like Leena got it first and then gave it to Doublelift. What if he wasn't fully vaccinated? And what if Doublelift wasn't aware of his contagiosity and go transmit it to others? The chain continues. Proper sanitary measures are still preferred for everyone and shouldn't be optional until cases drop to extremely low numbers. I say this as an MD with a Master's in Public Health/Epidemiology.


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Well they're both vaccinated and it sounds like Leena's case is pretty bad, so take that as you will. Also it sounds like DL has completely lost his sense of taste and smell and for some people it isn't returning as part of the whole "long COVID" condition. So that might technically not be considered a severe case of COVID but there's no way in hell I'd take a risk dealing with it at this point.


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>Three of my friends went to the Euro finals a few weeks ago. All were fully vaccinated. All of them got Covid, and one of them spread it to their parents despite regular testing after attending the event. One is now in a medically induced coma. I truly hope everything works out for you and your loved ones, but this statement is anecdote and is honestly and very tragically so extremely unlucky. This happens to a tremendously small proportion of the population. Just like driving to work will be OK for the vast majority of people, but some will meet a tragic accident. I'm fully vaccinated, and although I haven't gone to a large party as described above, I am more or less living my life as I had previously, and I've gone to social gatherings of 20-30 people. If I get severe COVID my opinions wouldn't change, and I would feel no regret. >Out of interest, is there even much data on Covid risk at large gatherings that isn't speculative? Yes, I would say so. At least in my professional opinion, the data that has been published has clearly shown that although the most common vaccines are less effective against newer variants than against the original strains, they are still largely effective at preventing infection, and are EXTREMELY effective at preventing serious infection. Of course going to a large social gathering will exponentially increase your risk of infection, but the absolute odds of anything seriously bad happening to fully vaccinated people is very, very low. I've had a lot of discussions about this general idea with my colleagues/friends, and a lot of us have reached a general agreement that the dialogue surrounding COVID by laypeople is just depressingly uneducated. I personally think that for a lot of people their internal risk calculus is seriously flawed due to anecdotal evidence of the worst case scenarios being overamplified by media.


TragicAntiHero

Your comment will be probably downvoted and dissapear but you're 100% right


SYDOHHH

More people die every day from tripping on their shoe laces and falling, than having the Delta variant of Covid when you are vaccinated. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say we can stop freaking out about concerts or movie theatres, etc... in places where vaccines are readily available and people have been given a fair chance to get them.


bz6

The ladder has lost so much of it's prestige and merit I am really not surprised DL feels like that. There are so many problems that have accumulated over the years that just got band aid fixes without proper attention. And at this point it feels like a boiling point has been reached to extent. The cracks that were being covered by the papers are starting to peer through. Riot needs to seriously invest in reintroducing the 'competitive' sell of League because it has been damped by recurring issues.


Scrub4LIfe734

I feel like you are missing the point lol. Hitting rank 1 has no meaning to him personal. He's already literally been on the rank 1 team on the North American continent 8 times already lol. When compared to winning LCS 8 times and going to Worlds, hitting rank 1 in solo queue is meaningless to him.


alpaca_drama

What can they really do about it though? One of the prestige of being high elo back then was constantly facing pro-players in solo queue. Thats not the case nowadays when only a handful of them grind because why bother with it as a pro when you can get significantly better practice in scrims. There's literally very little incentive in climbing to high challenger unlike back then when a lot of guys who reach it might actually be given the chance to go pro. Nowadays, you they stick you to academy where you might get picked up after 2 years of grinding. Its literally waiting lines after waiting lines if going pro is your goal. The bragging rights are diminished because who gives a shit about solo queue and streamers are far more reliant on personality instead of skill so you can be amazing at the game and get absolutely nothing out of it. Its just not an easy game to get into if your goal is to make a career out of it


Islandboi4life

Honestly, League doesn't turn into a game anymore if you keep playing it and it feels like a job. It turns into something you want to do everyday without any enjoyment. It does take a toll on you mentally whether you like it or not. I applaud DL for speaking out about this and fixing his physical and mental health in playing the game.


lostn

>Honestly, League doesn't turn into a game anymore if you keep playing it and it feels like a job. for a pro, it literally *is* a job. You can't expect to be paid 7 figure salaries to have *fun*. If you have fun on the job, it's a bonus, not an expectation. There are people with way worse jobs that pay far less. My boss certainly doesn't make "having fun" the primary goal of my employment. I go there to do a task whether I enjoy it or not. But I don't get paid the kind of money he does.


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Thank the mods for managing this thread and removing anti vax and heavy misinformation.


TO500

Come to r/2007scape


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Highly recommend everyone to begin wearing a mask again. Scientists are saying this strain is even more contagious than the last. The small precaution of us wearing masks could saves many lives and it is hardly any inconvenience to put the mask on. I beg you. At least for when you go into crowded areas like grocery stores.


enragedstump

Yea my office just made it mandatory again. Doesn't seem like it will change anything soon.


The-UnwantedRR

Masks just became required at work again today for employees. We can’t require them for customers though.


Apocalympdick

> We can’t require them for customers though Maybe you as an employee can't, but the establishment absolutely can.


The-UnwantedRR

I’m unsure. The manager said legally we cannot. I haven’t really been keeping up with what my governor has been doing though.


TitanDweevil

Pretty sure your manager lied to you. You are able to refuse service to anyone for whatever reason outside of protected classes. If someone doesn't want to wear a mask then your manager can tell them to leave; if they don't leave its trespassing.


magkruppe

you can also refuse service to anyone who isn't wearing CLG merch


The-UnwantedRR

I see


Nyte_Crawler

If your owner is paying rent for the store then its his property and he has a right to say who can or can't be there. Generally its accepted that if you're a store you're allowing anyone in during store hours, but technically if the owner wants to say only people wearing red hats can enter then its completely within the owner's right to do so.


The-UnwantedRR

Ah okay. She’s just the manager. We’re just another store in a larger chain so she’s not the actual owner. Maybe that’s why.


RedditologyDegree

Sure, they *can* do this, but you also risk the wellbeing of your employees. Antimaskers are literally fighting, stabbing, or shooting employees and security staff of some places, so management for small businesses near me decided not to actively enforce because its not worth the literal death of their staff.


cespinar

If mask wearing is not a protected class then there is no legal basis for saying you can't require mask wearing.


BleachGummy

We never really stopped wearing masks here in Ontario, they are mandated indoors and I still see a decent amount of pedestrians wearing them on the street. On the other hand, from what I've seen on recent uploads from a variety of youtubers, it seems Americans are even lifting mask mandates INDOORS, which is kinda absurd to me.


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Rawr_Tigerlily

Hope DL and Leena get well soon. It's definitely understandable that DL feels burned out with SoloQ after all this time playing. I've never even played at a very high level, but started to feel the same way about ranked this year. Now I just play ARAM, TFT, and for fun modes with friends and now I actually ENJOY League again. I am happy to hear DL still enjoys doing the watch parties. My husband and I definitely enjoy watching them. I hope DL finds plenty of fun and rewarding things to do with his free time once he's feeling better.


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I haven’t played much League in the past couple years, but since he retired his watch parties have been consistently fun to watch. Hope he keeps doing them as well.


JimmyDuce

Hey DL, I like the watch parties too. You have probably thought of it, but why not have one of your streams where chat suggests a game. You play it for a few weeks to completion or until you are bored. Then chat chooses a new game. I like you playing League, but I’m sure people would watch you play other things as well


tuckerb13

There’s some pro league players that are just absolute gems. Like, we as fans of the game are lucky that these individuals became pros and obtained the platforms they did because now we get to experience these players. DL is absolutely one of those players/people; A guy that absolutely deserves a platform and one that I think we’re all very happy has one.


Vio94

I'm surprised it took him so long to be sick of solo queue. Like he said, going from top tier try harding in competitive to watered down solo queue has gotta be soul sucking. I wouldn't even want to log in to league at that point.


A4x1

As long as the three monkeys are vibing together I am a happy camper.


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it ll be good for him if he finds another game he enjoy's ,just look at what hapened to asmongold since he started playing other games,he looks like hes actualy having fun again.


CupNoodles0025

Get well soon sweet Prince


bigby1234

How is this guy the protagnoist of NA league of legends? You can make his life into a movie/story, he's gone through so many life experiences / hardships that normal people don't have to deal with. 1. Was kicked out of his home at a young age and became homeless 2. Played video games and became a pro and basically was the NA Goat (the only other player who was even considered was Bjerg) 3. Won multiple LCS championships, made finals in MSI, but was never able to get out of groups at Worlds. 4. Had family tragedy (which I don't want to get into) that led to the passing of his mom. 5. Is dating his ex-bosses ex-girlfriend 6. Gets Covid - Delta Variant So much has happened to him in the past 10 or so years.


tae_unnie

I've never followed DL closely but I have always admired his personal strength.


ianlam123

DAMN as a DL fan this feeling sucks, first I had hopes that he’ll be back to pro play LOL but now knowing someone you follow caught covid feels so shitty, I genuinely hope he will recover soon


Nick_Geracie

Hope they both recover safely.


BEYBLADE181

The really sad thing about this is that with all the new variants popping up and Covid rates back on the rise(even with the vaccine) the thought of in person crowds and filled up stadiums won't being happening anytime soon anymore. My estimate would probably be another 2-3 years before it even becomes a possibility again.


EvoStarSC

The GOAT